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Norman Walz

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May 30, 2023, 12:39:18 PM5/30/23
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While my last project awaits  review, I'd like to propose another Edgar Wallace novel:


Alex Cabal

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OK! Please send your repo once you get started.
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Norman Walz

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Norman Walz

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Just a question that came up:

A possible painting that I might be able to use is by an artist that only has a Polish wikipedia page. There is no
English language page.

Is it OK to use the Polish wikipedia URL?

I know se lint only passes English wikipedia page URLs.

Robin Whittleton

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May 30, 2023, 4:41:39 PM5/30/23
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You could create a stub English Wikipedia page with the name, date of death and birth, and maybe a painting or equivalent? Every page has to start somewhere.

On 30 May 2023, at 22:12, Norman Walz <ncwm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just a question that came up:
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Alex Cabal

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SE is an English-language project so we need English-language Wikipedia.
As Robin stated creating a stub would be a great start.

On 5/30/23 3:11 PM, Norman Walz wrote:
> Just a question that came up:
>
> A possible painting that I might be able to use is by an artist that
> only has a Polish wikipedia page. There is no
> English language page.
>
> Is it OK to use the Polish wikipedia URL?
>
> I know *se lint *only passes English wikipedia page URLs.
>
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 2:08:02 PM UTC-6 Norman Walz wrote:
>
> OK! Here's my repo:
> https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew
> <https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew>
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:54:13 PM UTC-6 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK! Please send your repo once you get started.
>
> On 5/30/23 11:39 AM, Norman Walz wrote:
> > While my last project awaits  review, I'd like to propose
> another Edgar
> > Wallace novel:
> >
> > PG: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24933
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24933>
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/manwhoknew0000edga/mode/2up
> <https://archive.org/details/manwhoknew0000edga/mode/2up>
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Alex Cabal

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May 30, 2023, 4:44:57 PM5/30/23
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Vince can you manage this with Weijia reviewing?

On 5/30/23 3:08 PM, Norman Walz wrote:
> OK! Here's my repo:
>  https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 1:54:13 PM UTC-6 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK! Please send your repo once you get started.
>
> On 5/30/23 11:39 AM, Norman Walz wrote:
> > While my last project awaits  review, I'd like to propose another
> Edgar
> > Wallace novel:
> >
> > PG: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24933
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24933>
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/manwhoknew0000edga/mode/2up
> <https://archive.org/details/manwhoknew0000edga/mode/2up>
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Norman Walz

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May 30, 2023, 5:05:40 PM5/30/23
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I considered making a stub on Wikipedia, but then read this:

Vince

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May 30, 2023, 5:10:25 PM5/30/23
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Will do.

Norman Walz

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May 30, 2023, 6:07:06 PM5/30/23
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This is a painting I think might work:


"The Man Who Knew" was an odd-looking, clean-shaven, fair-skinned fellow with gold-rimmed glasses.

mockup.jpg

Vince

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May 30, 2023, 6:40:39 PM5/30/23
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He’s definitely odd-looking. :) Looks good.


> On May 30, 2023, at 5:07 PM, Norman Walz <ncwm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is a painting I think might work:
>
> https://zbiory.mnk.pl/en/search-result/catalog/302792
>
> "The Man Who Knew" was an odd-looking, clean-shaven, fair-skinned fellow with gold-rimmed glasses.
>
> <mockup.jpg>

Norman Walz

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May 30, 2023, 7:18:37 PM5/30/23
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My production is complete except for the URL to an English Wikipedia page for the painter. I like the painting so I'm going to try to make the
stub for an English Wikipedia page.

I've done some Wikipedia editing in the past but haven't done a page before.

My understanding is that approval can take months so I might start another book while I wait of that's OK.

Alex Cabal

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May 30, 2023, 8:28:16 PM5/30/23
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You can wrap this up now and just do a PR once the article goes live.
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Weijia Cheng

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May 30, 2023, 9:08:44 PM5/30/23
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Yeah, I was going to say, a Wikipedia link on the artist is not at all a requirement for release!

Norman Walz

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May 30, 2023, 10:43:22 PM5/30/23
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Thanks Weija.

I went ahead and created an English Wikipedia page for the painter. I was able to publish it because I guess I had done enough approved edits on other Wikipedia pages in the past.
Anyway a Wikipedia reviewer suggested a couple of small changes so I guess the page is OK. A good learning experience.

With that, I guess my effort is ready for review.

Weijia Cheng

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May 31, 2023, 12:44:46 AM5/31/23
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Ok, I'll try to get this reviewed in the next few days!

Weijia Cheng

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Jun 1, 2023, 11:41:24 PM6/1/23
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Ok, good work Norman! I filed a Github issue with my review.

Norman Walz

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Jun 2, 2023, 2:38:26 PM6/2/23
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Thanks Weijia!

I'm struggling with remaining a commit message due to my ignorance of vim.
I'm trying to change remove [Editorial] from a commit message:
I understand that I need to use these commands:
git rebase -i HEAD~X
# X is the number of commits to go back
# Move to the line of your commit, change pick into edit,
# then change your commit message:
git commit --amend
# Finish the rebase with: git rebase --continue
git push origin master --force

My issue is that I can use Shift-i and change from "pick 2ee74c5 [Editorial]  Revised some abbr" to "edit 2ee74c5 Revised some abbr"
I then try to save the changes with ESC and :WC
But I get this message: E492: Not an editor command: WC

I'm pretty sure it's something obvious, but for the moment it escapes me.

Bob R. Kenyon

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Hi Norman, 

If I may jump in here, yes, it needs to be a lower case “wc”. Case is important in most unix apps.

Thanks, 
Bob

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Vince

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Jun 2, 2023, 2:47:21 PM6/2/23
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Also, if you’re just changing the commit message, you should use “reword” rather than “edit”. “Edit” is for when you want to change what’s in the commit itself.

Norman Walz

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used reword

ESC

and :wc

still get E492: Not an editor command: wc

Weijia Cheng

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That should be :wq

Also, I think there should be a way to change the default editor for git, in the configs, if vim isn’t the best for you.

Norman Walz

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Well I found the attempt at changing the commit message using vim fairly frustrating. Probably should have stuck it out longer, but after
several hours I decided to simply create a revised repository here: https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised

Probably would have been better off learning how to do this properly on Github but I'll save this for later when I'm less frustrated and try with another editor.

I've addressed all of the issues Weijia raised. The list remains at the original repo: https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew

Thanks again for the review, Weija: I've  saved your suggestions for reference on future projects.

Robin Whittleton

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For the future, you can configure git to use your editor of choice rather than vim: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2596805/how-do-i-make-git-use-the-editor-of-my-choice-for-editing-commit-messages#2596835

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Well I found the attempt at changing the commit message using vim fairly frustrating. Probably should have stuck it out longer, but after
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Norman Walz

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Thanks's Robin. I going to practice this rebasing stuff on a test Github repo.

Weijia Cheng

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Ok, I got to review again and the changes are looking good, except the formatting for content.opf became jumbled in this commit. I am not sure what you did to break it but you might want to revert that commit and try fixing content.opf again.
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Norman Walz

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Jun 4, 2023, 1:55:41 PM6/4/23
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Thanks Weijia.

I've replaced the revised content.opf at the repo: https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised

I seem to be getting a random error that's happened about half a dozen times, where a linefeed and tab in the xhtml file is replaced with a space only, so the all text
ends up on a single line. When I  run se lint, it doesn't seem to pick up an error, and I do run se clean frequently. The only way for me to find the issue is to manually inspect each xhtml file in BBEdit or on Github, which I've been doing before I declare the production complete. I guess the same thing can happen with the content.opf file as well, so I will manually check this as well from now on.

At any rate, I think I've taken care of all the issues, Weijia. Thanks again.

Alex Cabal

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This usually happens when a tag is closed incorrectly or in an
unexpected order. se clean will run everything into one line because the
xml/xhtml is not correctly structured.

On 6/4/23 12:55 PM, Norman Walz wrote:
> Thanks Weijia.
>
> I've replaced the revised content.opf at the repo:
> https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised
>
> I seem to be getting a random error that's happened about half a dozen
> times, where a* linefeed* and *tab* in the xhtml file is replaced with a
> space only, so the all text
> ends up on a single line. When I  run *se lint, *it**doesn't seem to
> pick**up an error, and I do run *se clean* frequently. The only way for
> me to find the issue is to manually inspect each *xhtml *file in BBEdit
> or on Github, which I've been doing before I declare the production
> complete. I guess the same thing can happen with the *content.opf* file
> as well, so I will manually check this as well from now on.
>
> At any rate, I think I've taken care of all the issues, Weijia. Thanks
> again.
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-6 Weijia Cheng wrote:
>
> Ok, I got to review again and the changes are looking good, except
> the formatting for content.opf became jumbled in this commit
> <https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised/commit/4cc61a11289038a10fccbc30648f264d22b6a007>. I am not sure what you did to break it but you might want to revert that commit and try fixing content.opf again.
>
> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:45:54 AM UTC-7 Norman Walz wrote:
>
> Thanks's Robin. I going to practice this rebasing stuff on a
> test Github repo.
>
> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 10:24:57 PM UTC-6 Robin Whittleton wrote:
>
> For the future, you can configure git to use your editor of
> choice rather than vim:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2596805/how-do-i-make-git-use-the-editor-of-my-choice-for-editing-commit-messages#2596835 <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2596805/how-do-i-make-git-use-the-editor-of-my-choice-for-editing-commit-messages#2596835>
>
>> On 3 Jun 2023, at 01:16, Norman Walz <ncwm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well I found the attempt at changing the commit message
>> using vim fairly frustrating. Probably should have stuck
>> it out longer, but after
>> several hours I decided to simply create a revised
>> repository here:
>> https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised <https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/995a391a-676f-4c29-bfb7-c5bbc8723e48n%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/995a391a-676f-4c29-bfb7-c5bbc8723e48n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
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Norman Walz

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Hmmm. That would explain things.Thanks Alex.

Vince

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It can also happen when there is text outside an HTML element. I had an “invisible” space character at the front of a line in a chapter file one time (i.e. before the <p>), and it took me forever to figure out why clean was screwing it up.

It’s not a lint error because what’s wrong is outside of the html, but clean doesn’t know what to do with it, since it’s not properly formatted.

David at Standard Ebooks

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I’ve hit the one Vince mentions many times, and it’s always a bugger to find where the problem is. Is there any easy or automated way to find such errors (text outiside the HTML structure such as between a </p> and a <p> ? I never had much luck with regex, though that might work in specific cases.
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Norman Walz

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Thanks for the replies!

Weijia Cheng

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Alex Cabal

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Looks very good Norman, I've gone ahead and released it. Thanks!

On 6/4/23 10:37 PM, Weijia Cheng wrote:
> OK Alex, this is ready for you
> at**https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised
>>> >https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised <https://github.com/ncwmail/edgar-wallace_the-man-who-knew-revised>
>>> >
>>> > I seem to be getting a random error that's happened
>>> about half a dozen
>>> > times, where a* linefeed* and *tab* in the xhtml file
>>> is replaced with a
>>> > space only, so the all text
>>> > ends up on a single line. When I  run *se lint,
>>> *it**doesn't seem to
>>> > pick**up an error, and I do run *se clean* frequently.
>>> The only way for
>>> > me to find the issue is to manually inspect each *xhtml
>>> *file in BBEdit
>>> > or on Github, which I've been doing before I declare
>>> the production
>>> > complete. I guess the same thing can happen with the
>>> *content.opf* file
>>> > as well, so I will manually check this as well from now on.
>>>
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