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Emma Sweeney
Apr 19, 2025, 5:42:33 PMApr 19
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The next play I'll produce is Sophocles' Philoctetes. The raw OCR for this one is also pretty rough so transcribing will take some time.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any pd proof for paintings depicting Philoctetes, but there are two paintings that fit.
The story of Philoctetes' snakebite wound is mentioned in the play. The snake can also symbolize deception, alluding to Neoptolemus tricking Philoctetes.
Ulysses/Odysseus is a main character in the play. In other paintings, Philoctetes looks very similar to Odysseus.
Emma
Alex Cabal
Apr 21, 2025, 12:27:12 AMApr 21
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OK! Weijia will manage this with Lukas reviewing.
I think Ulysses is the better choice.
On 4/19/25 4:42 PM, Emma Sweeney wrote:
> The next play I'll produce is Sophocles' Philoctetes. The raw OCR for
> this one is also pretty rough so transcribing will take some time.
>
> IA: https://archive.org/details/sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up
> <https://archive.org/details/sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up>
> repository: https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/
> sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr <https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/
> sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr>
> Category:Philoctetes_in_paintings>, but there are two paintings that fit.
>
> 1. Tiger and Snake by Eugène Delacroix <https://standardebooks.org/
> artworks/eugene-delacroix/tiger-and-snake>
> artworks/jean-auguste-dominique-ingres/ulysses>
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I think Ulysses is the better choice.
On 4/19/25 4:42 PM, Emma Sweeney wrote:
> The next play I'll produce is Sophocles' Philoctetes. The raw OCR for
> this one is also pretty rough so transcribing will take some time.
>
> IA: https://archive.org/details/sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up
> repository: https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/
> sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr <https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/
> sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr>
>
> Unfortunately, I couldn't find any pd proof for paintings depicting
> Philoctetes <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/
> Unfortunately, I couldn't find any pd proof for paintings depicting
> Category:Philoctetes_in_paintings>, but there are two paintings that fit.
>
> 1. Tiger and Snake by Eugène Delacroix <https://standardebooks.org/
> artworks/eugene-delacroix/tiger-and-snake>
>
> cover-philoctetes-1.jpg
> The story of Philoctetes' snakebite wound is mentioned in the play. The
> snake can also symbolize deception, alluding to Neoptolemus tricking
> Philoctetes.
>
> 2. Ulysses by Jean-Auguste Dominique Ingres <https://standardebooks.org/
> cover-philoctetes-1.jpg
> The story of Philoctetes' snakebite wound is mentioned in the play. The
> snake can also symbolize deception, alluding to Neoptolemus tricking
> Philoctetes.
>
> artworks/jean-auguste-dominique-ingres/ulysses>
>
> cover-philoctetes-2.jpg
> Ulysses/Odysseus is a main character in the play. In other paintings,
> Philoctetes looks very similar to Odysseus.
>
>
> Emma
>
> --
> cover-philoctetes-2.jpg
> Ulysses/Odysseus is a main character in the play. In other paintings,
> Philoctetes looks very similar to Odysseus.
>
>
> Emma
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Weijia Cheng
Apr 21, 2025, 6:28:03 AMApr 21
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Alright, noted.
Emma Sweeney
May 1, 2025, 2:19:27 AMMay 1
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Philoctetes by Sophocles is ready for review.
Emma
Lukas Bystricky
May 2, 2025, 12:12:11 PMMay 2
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Noted, I'll get to that this weekend.
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Lukas Bystricky
May 3, 2025, 3:13:47 AMMay 3
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Very nice work Emma as always. The only issue I see is that you have "subject-2" duplicated when assigning the authorities and terms (content.opf:39-40).
One other thing I see is perhaps a larger issue. Opening the table of contents, the title for the half titlepage is "Half-Titlepage". This is different from most books where the half title page gets the title of the work (see for instance here). It looks a bit odd to me, but perhaps this is by design; the same thing occurs in existing ebooks where the opening section does not have a title of its own (see here for example). Anyways just thought I'd point it out, if it is a problem it's not specific to this project obviously.
Emma Sweeney
May 3, 2025, 3:28:48 AMMay 3
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I've corrected the content.opf.
The half title page is supposed to be listed as "Half-Titlepage" so we don't have duplicates of the title in the ToC (see SE tools).
Emma
Lukas Bystricky
May 3, 2025, 3:36:17 AMMay 3
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Ok, I hadn't seen that before. Always more to learn!
Alex, this is ready for you.
Alex Cabal
May 4, 2025, 11:57:14 PMMay 4
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Great work Emma, thanks!
Note for the future, the 'prologue' should actually have 'introduction'
semantics. The prologue is bodymatter written by the author, but this is
an introduction/synopsis by the translator.
Also, in the long description, plots of fiction should be written in the
present tense, and in general the active voice is preferred.
On 5/3/25 2:36 AM, Lukas Bystricky wrote:
> Ok, I hadn't seen that before. Always more to learn!
>
> Alex, this is ready for you.
>
> On Saturday, May 3, 2025 at 9:28:48 AM UTC+2 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> I've corrected the content.opf.
>
> The half title page is supposed to be listed as "Half-Titlepage" so
> we don't have duplicates of the title in the ToC (see SE tools
> <https://github.com/standardebooks/tools/blob/master/se/
> se_epub_generate_toc.py#L462>).
> text>). It looks a bit odd to me, but perhaps this is by design;
> standardebooks.org/ebooks/honore-de-balzac/eugenie-grandet/
> clara-bell/text> for example). Anyways just thought I'd point it
> page scans: https://archive.org/details/
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up <https://
> archive.org/details/sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/
> mode/1up>
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up
> <https://archive.org/details/
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up>>
> > repository: https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/
> <https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/>
> > sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr <https://
> github.com/EmmaSweeney/ <https://github.com/
> EmmaSweeney/>
> standardebooks.org/>
> standardebooks.org/>
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Note for the future, the 'prologue' should actually have 'introduction'
semantics. The prologue is bodymatter written by the author, but this is
an introduction/synopsis by the translator.
Also, in the long description, plots of fiction should be written in the
present tense, and in general the active voice is preferred.
On 5/3/25 2:36 AM, Lukas Bystricky wrote:
> Ok, I hadn't seen that before. Always more to learn!
>
> Alex, this is ready for you.
>
> On Saturday, May 3, 2025 at 9:28:48 AM UTC+2 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> I've corrected the content.opf.
>
> The half title page is supposed to be listed as "Half-Titlepage" so
> we don't have duplicates of the title in the ToC (see SE tools
> se_epub_generate_toc.py#L462>).
>
>
> Emma
> On Saturday, May 3, 2025 at 3:13:47 AM UTC-4 lukasby...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Very nice work Emma as always. The only issue I see is that you
> have "subject-2" duplicated when assigning the authorities and
> terms (content.opf:39-40).
>
> One other thing I see is perhaps a larger issue. Opening the
> table of contents, the title for the half titlepage is "Half-
> Titlepage". This is different from most books where the half
> title page gets the title of the work (see for instance here
> <https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/lysander-spooner/no-treason/
>
> Emma
> On Saturday, May 3, 2025 at 3:13:47 AM UTC-4 lukasby...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Very nice work Emma as always. The only issue I see is that you
> have "subject-2" duplicated when assigning the authorities and
> terms (content.opf:39-40).
>
> One other thing I see is perhaps a larger issue. Opening the
> table of contents, the title for the half titlepage is "Half-
> Titlepage". This is different from most books where the half
> title page gets the title of the work (see for instance here
> text>). It looks a bit odd to me, but perhaps this is by design;
> the same thing occurs in existing ebooks where the opening
> section does not have a title of its own (see here <https://
> standardebooks.org/ebooks/honore-de-balzac/eugenie-grandet/
> clara-bell/text> for example). Anyways just thought I'd point it
> out, if it is a problem it's not specific to this project
> obviously.
>
> On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 6:12:11 PM UTC+2 Lukas Bystricky wrote:
>
> Noted, I'll get to that this weekend.
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2025, 08:19 Emma Sweeney <sween...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Philoctetes by Sophocles is ready for review.
>
> obviously.
>
> On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 6:12:11 PM UTC+2 Lukas Bystricky wrote:
>
> Noted, I'll get to that this weekend.
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2025, 08:19 Emma Sweeney <sween...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Philoctetes by Sophocles is ready for review.
>
> repository: https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/
> sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr <https://github.com/
> EmmaSweeney/sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr>
> sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr <https://github.com/
> page scans: https://archive.org/details/
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up <https://
> archive.org/details/sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/
> mode/1up>
>
>
> Emma
> On Monday, April 21, 2025 at 6:28:03 AM UTC-4
> weij...@bu.edu wrote:
>
> Alright, noted.
>
> On Monday, April 21, 2025 at 12:27:12 AM UTC-4 Alex
> Cabal wrote:
>
> OK! Weijia will manage this with Lukas reviewing.
>
> I think Ulysses is the better choice.
>
> On 4/19/25 4:42 PM, Emma Sweeney wrote:
> > The next play I'll produce is Sophocles'
> Philoctetes. The raw OCR for
> > this one is also pretty rough so transcribing
> will take some time.
> >
> > IA: https://archive.org/details/
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up
> <https://archive.org/details/
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up>
> > <https://archive.org/details/
>
> Emma
> On Monday, April 21, 2025 at 6:28:03 AM UTC-4
> weij...@bu.edu wrote:
>
> Alright, noted.
>
> On Monday, April 21, 2025 at 12:27:12 AM UTC-4 Alex
> Cabal wrote:
>
> OK! Weijia will manage this with Lukas reviewing.
>
> I think Ulysses is the better choice.
>
> On 4/19/25 4:42 PM, Emma Sweeney wrote:
> > The next play I'll produce is Sophocles'
> Philoctetes. The raw OCR for
> > this one is also pretty rough so transcribing
> will take some time.
> >
> > IA: https://archive.org/details/
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up
> <https://archive.org/details/
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up>
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up
> <https://archive.org/details/
> sophocleswitheng02soph/page/361/mode/1up>>
> > repository: https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/
> <https://github.com/EmmaSweeney/>
> > sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr <https://
> github.com/EmmaSweeney/ <https://github.com/
> EmmaSweeney/>
> > sophocles_philoctetes_francis-storr>
> >
> > Unfortunately, I couldn't find any pd proof
> for paintings depicting
> > Philoctetes <https://commons.wikimedia.org/
> wiki/ <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/>
> >
> > Unfortunately, I couldn't find any pd proof
> for paintings depicting
> > Philoctetes <https://commons.wikimedia.org/
> > Category:Philoctetes_in_paintings>, but there
> are two paintings that fit.
> >
> > 1. Tiger and Snake by Eugène Delacroix
> <https://standardebooks.org/ <https://
> are two paintings that fit.
> >
> > 1. Tiger and Snake by Eugène Delacroix
> standardebooks.org/>
> > artworks/eugene-delacroix/tiger-and-snake>
> >
> > cover-philoctetes-1.jpg
> > The story of Philoctetes' snakebite wound is
> mentioned in the play. The
> > snake can also symbolize deception, alluding
> to Neoptolemus tricking
> > Philoctetes.
> >
> > 2. Ulysses by Jean-Auguste Dominique Ingres
> <https://standardebooks.org/ <https://
> >
> > cover-philoctetes-1.jpg
> > The story of Philoctetes' snakebite wound is
> mentioned in the play. The
> > snake can also symbolize deception, alluding
> to Neoptolemus tricking
> > Philoctetes.
> >
> > 2. Ulysses by Jean-Auguste Dominique Ingres
> standardebooks.org/>
> > artworks/jean-auguste-dominique-ingres/ulysses>
> >
> > cover-philoctetes-2.jpg
> > Ulysses/Odysseus is a main character in the
> play. In other paintings,
> > Philoctetes looks very similar to Odysseus.
> >
> >
> > Emma
> >
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> > cover-philoctetes-2.jpg
> > Ulysses/Odysseus is a main character in the
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> > Philoctetes looks very similar to Odysseus.
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