[Next project] The World Below, by S. Fowler Wright

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Hendrik Kaiber

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Dec 13, 2025, 2:08:46 PM12/13/25
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For my next project I would like to work on The World Below, by S. Fowler Wright.

This work has two parts, the first, The Amphibians, was published in 1924, and then, in 1929, The World Below was published with both this first part and the second (also called The World Below) as a single volume. The second part was first published as a standalone text in 1951. I wanted to confirm that we want to treat this as a single production, like most editions seem to do.

For the cover, I'm thinking of something depicting a cave, since part of the novel is set in subterranean Earth. This might be a good choice.

Can I work on it?

Repo (empty)

—Hendrik
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Alex Cabal

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Sure. Lukas will manage with Robin reviewing.

On 12/13/25 1:08 PM, Hendrik Kaiber wrote:
> For my next project I would like to work on /The World Below, /by S.
> Fowler Wright.
>
> This work has two parts, the first, /The Amphibians/, was published in
> 1924, and then, in 1929, /The World Below/ was published with both this
> first part and the second (also called /The World Below/) as a single
> volume. The second part was first published as a standalone text in
> 1951. I wanted to confirm that we want to treat this as a single
> production, like most editions seem to do.
>
> For the cover, I'm thinking of something depicting a cave, since part of
> the novel is set in subterranean Earth. This <https://
> standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-grotte-de-la-loue> might
> be a good choice.
>
> Can I work on it?
>
> Transcription <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352>
> Scans <http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393>
> Repo <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world-below> (empty)
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> —Hendrik
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Hendrik Kaiber

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I'm proofreading, and so far nothing out of the ordinary. Lukas, when you have time can you take a look at the proposed cover and give your opinion?

—Hendrik

Alex Cabal

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Artwork looks good, I'll assign it

On 12/24/25 1:18 PM, Hendrik Kaiber wrote:
> I'm proofreading, and so far nothing out of the ordinary. Lukas, when
> you have time can you take a look at the proposed cover and give your
> opinion?
>
> —Hendrik
>
> On Saturday, December 13, 2025 at 5:23:59 PM UTC-3 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Sure. Lukas will manage with Robin reviewing.
>
> On 12/13/25 1:08 PM, Hendrik Kaiber wrote:
> > For my next project I would like to work on /The World Below, /by S.
> > Fowler Wright.
> >
> > This work has two parts, the first, /The Amphibians/, was
> published in
> > 1924, and then, in 1929, /The World Below/ was published with
> both this
> > first part and the second (also called /The World Below/) as a
> single
> > volume. The second part was first published as a standalone text in
> > 1951. I wanted to confirm that we want to treat this as a single
> > production, like most editions seem to do.
> >
> > For the cover, I'm thinking of something depicting a cave, since
> part of
> > the novel is set in subterranean Earth. This <https://
> > standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-grotte-de-la-loue
> <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-grotte-de-la-
> loue>> might
> > be a good choice.
> >
> > Can I work on it?
> >
> > Transcription <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352 <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352>>
> > Scans <http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393 <http://
> catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393>>
> > Repo <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world-
> below <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world-
> below>> (empty)
> >
> > —Hendrik
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Hendrik Kaiber

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The project is almost ready for review. I have two questions:

In page 257 there is a small list with the articles of a treaty. I think the content makes it an ordered list, but I couldn't find a way to add the "article" label before the numbering, so I left it as an unordered list for now. How do you think I should deal with this?

​In page 287, there are two instances of <i> elements, which are using normal font in the middle of an italics section. I think the most appropriate way to deal with this is keep the main text normal and use italics for the two small passages. I'm not sure if an unsemanticated <i> is the correct element, however. What do you think?

—Hendrik

Alex Cabal

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I don't think it's a list, it's just a blockquote. Put it in a
blockquote without italics.

The second one is also a blockquote. Remove italics from the whole thing
and you can add italics to the inline editor's notes.

On 1/3/26 2:47 PM, Hendrik Kaiber wrote:
> The project is almost ready for review. I have two questions:
>
> In page 257 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=uva.x001329369&seq=267&q1=%22Article%22&view=1up> there is a small
> list with the articles of a treaty. I think the content makes it an
> ordered list, but I couldn't find a way to add the "article" label
> before the numbering, so I left it as an unordered list for now. How do
> you think I should deal with this?
>
> ​In page 287 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=uva.x001329369&seq=297&q1=%22here+followed%22&view=1up>, there are
> > <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-grotte-de-
> la- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-grotte-
> de-la->
> > loue>> might
> > > be a good choice.
> > >
> > > Can I work on it?
> > >
> > > Transcription <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352 <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352> <https://
> > www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/76352>>>
> > > Scans <http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393 <http://
> catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393> <http://
> > catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393 <http://
> catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393>>>
> > > Repo <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world-
> <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world->
> > below <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world-
> <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world->
> > below>> (empty)
> > >
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Hendrik Kaiber

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Jan 5, 2026, 8:26:58 PM (4 days ago) Jan 5
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I think this is ready for a review, Robin.

Not much to say, there are two unsemanticated <i> elements, which I think are correct. The long-description is on the shorter side because I don't there is much to say.

—Hendrik

Robin Whittleton

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OK, will look at this today.

-Robin

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Alex: got an opinion on modernizing frog-mouth to frogmouth here? My assumption would be that frogmouth is in the dictionary because of the bird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogmouth.

-Robin

Robin Whittleton

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OK, ready for you Alex.

-Robin

Alex Cabal

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Why didn't we use the first edition dust jacket as the cover? It's in a
good style and the title/author would be very to remove.

On 1/7/26 10:42 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> OK, ready for you Alex.
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 6 Jan 2026, at 17:14, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
>>
>> Alex: got an opinion on modernizing frog-mouth to frogmouth here? My
>> assumption would be that frogmouth is in the dictionary because of the
>> bird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogmouth <https://
>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogmouth>.
>>
>> -Robin
>>
>>> On 6 Jan 2026, at 15:45, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> A few small issues logged at https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-
>>> wright_the-world-below/issues/1 <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-
>>> fowler-wright_the-world-below/issues/1>
>>>
>>> -Robin
>>>
>>>> On 6 Jan 2026, at 13:49, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, will look at this today.
>>>>
>>>> -Robin
>>>>
>>>>> On 6 Jan 2026, at 02:26, Hendrik Kaiber
>>>>> <hendrik....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this is ready for a review, Robin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not much to say, there are two unsemanticated <i> elements, which I
>>>>> think are correct. The long-description is on the shorter side
>>>>> because I don't there is much to say.
>>>>>
>>>>> —Hendrik
>>>>> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 4:52:38 PM UTC-3 Alex Cabal wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it's a list, it's just a blockquote. Put it in a
>>>>> blockquote without italics.
>>>>>
>>>>> The second one is also a blockquote. Remove italics from the
>>>>> whole thing
>>>>> and you can add italics to the inline editor's notes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/3/26 2:47 PM, Hendrik Kaiber wrote:
>>>>> > The project is almost ready for review. I have two questions:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In page 257 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt <https://
>>>>> babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt>?
>>>>> > id=uva.x001329369&seq=267&q1=%22Article%22&view=1up> there is
>>>>> a small
>>>>> > list with the articles of a treaty. I think the content makes
>>>>> it an
>>>>> > ordered list, but I couldn't find a way to add the "article"
>>>>> label
>>>>> > before the numbering, so I left it as an unordered list for
>>>>> now. How do
>>>>> > you think I should deal with this?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ​In page 287 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt <https://
>>>>> babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt>?
>>>>> la- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-
>>>>> grotte-de-la->
>>>>> > loue <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-
>>>>> grotte- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-
>>>>> grotte->
>>>>> > de-la-loue>
>>>>> > > <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-
>>>>> grotte-de- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/
>>>>> la-grotte-de->
>>>>> > la- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-
>>>>> grotte- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-
>>>>> grotte->
>>>>> > de-la->
>>>>> > > loue>> might
>>>>> > > > be a good choice.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Can I work on it?
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Transcription <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352
>>>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352><https://
>>>>> ebooks/76352><http://www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>
>>>>> > >catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393 <http://
>>>>> catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393><http://
>>>>> >catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393 <http://
>>>>> catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393>>>>
>>>>> > > > Repo <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-
>>>>> world- <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world->
>>>>> > <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world-
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Hendrik Kaiber

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Jan 7, 2026, 2:18:11 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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I didn't think it would look very good. Also, the best version of it I found is here, which is a low-res image. I made an attempt at removing the text, and in my opinion the final product doesn't look that good (I'm utterly ignorant regarding image editing). If you think this looks acceptable, I'll change the cover.

If someone wants to volunteer to improve the image I would greatly appreciate it.
cover.jpg

Alex Cabal

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Jan 8, 2026, 2:45:21 PM (23 hours ago) Jan 8
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Alex Cabal

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Jan 8, 2026, 2:46:38 PM (23 hours ago) Jan 8
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OK. The size up version looks acceptable I think so I changed the cover
art to the first edition art. I've released it, thanks!

On 1/7/26 1:18 PM, Hendrik Kaiber wrote:
> I didn't think it would look very good. Also, the best version of it I
> found is here <https://www.hilobrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/
> Screen-Shot-2019-04-02-at-4.34.10-PM.png>, which is a low-res image. I
> made an attempt at removing the text, and in my opinion the final
> product doesn't look that good (I'm utterly ignorant regarding image
> editing). If you think this looks acceptable, I'll change the cover.
>
> If someone wants to volunteer to improve the image I would greatly
> appreciate it.
>
> On Wednesday, January 7, 2026 at 3:34:16 PM UTC-3 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Why didn't we use the first edition dust jacket as the cover? It's in a
> good style and the title/author would be very to remove.
>
> On 1/7/26 10:42 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> > OK, ready for you Alex.
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> >> On 6 Jan 2026, at 17:14, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Alex: got an opinion on modernizing frog-mouth to frogmouth
> here? My
> >> assumption would be that frogmouth is in the dictionary because
> of the
> >> bird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogmouth <https://
> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogmouth> <https://
> >> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogmouth <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Frogmouth>>.
> >>
> >> -Robin
> >>
> >>> On 6 Jan 2026, at 15:45, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A few small issues logged at https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-
> fowler- <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler->
> >>> wright_the-world-below/issues/1 <https://github.com/HendrikBK/
> s- <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s->
> >>> fowler-wright_the-world-below/issues/1>
> >>>
> >>> -Robin
> >>>
> >>>> On 6 Jan 2026, at 13:49, Robin Whittleton <ro...@reala.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, will look at this today.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Robin
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 6 Jan 2026, at 02:26, Hendrik Kaiber
> >>>>> <hendrik....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think this is ready for a review, Robin.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not much to say, there are two unsemanticated <i> elements,
> which I
> >>>>> think are correct. The long-description is on the shorter side
> >>>>> because I don't there is much to say.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> —Hendrik
> >>>>> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 4:52:38 PM UTC-3 Alex Cabal wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't think it's a list, it's just a blockquote. Put it in a
> >>>>> blockquote without italics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The second one is also a blockquote. Remove italics from the
> >>>>> whole thing
> >>>>> and you can add italics to the inline editor's notes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1/3/26 2:47 PM, Hendrik Kaiber wrote:
> >>>>> > The project is almost ready for review. I have two questions:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > In page 257 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt <https://
> babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt> <https://
> >>>>> babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt <http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/
> pt>>?
> >>>>> > id=uva.x001329369&seq=267&q1=%22Article%22&view=1up> there is
> >>>>> a small
> >>>>> > list with the articles of a treaty. I think the content makes
> >>>>> it an
> >>>>> > ordered list, but I couldn't find a way to add the "article"
> >>>>> label
> >>>>> > before the numbering, so I left it as an unordered list for
> >>>>> now. How do
> >>>>> > you think I should deal with this?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ​In page 287 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt <https://
> babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt> <https://
> >>>>> babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt <http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/
> de- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-grotte-de->
> >>>>> la- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-
> <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la->
> >>>>> grotte-de- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-
> courbet/ <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/>
> >>>>> la-grotte-de->
> >>>>> > la- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la-
> <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la->
> >>>>> grotte- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/
> la- <http://standardebooks.org/artworks/gustave-courbet/la->
> >>>>> grotte->
> >>>>> > de-la->
> >>>>> > > loue>> might
> >>>>> > > > be a good choice.
> >>>>> > > >
> >>>>> > > > Can I work on it?
> >>>>> > > >
> >>>>> > > > Transcription <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352>
> >>>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/76352 <https://
> >>>>> ebooks/76352><http://www.gutenberg.org/ <http://
> www.gutenberg.org/> <http://www.gutenberg.org/ <http://
> >>>>> > >catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102039393 <http://
> <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the->
> >>>>> world- <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-
> <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the->
> >>>>> world- <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-
> >>>>> <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world-
> <https://github.com/HendrikBK/s-fowler-wright_the-world->>>
> >>>>> > > below>> (empty)
> >>>>> > > >
> >>>>> > > > —Hendrik
> >>>>> > > >
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