none of the normal developers will go to the trouble of implementing an old electron especially for windows 7, which has been out of support since 2020.
Also, the electron has been updated to fix bugs or use new features, so I would say it is close to impossible to create a version with a now 3 version old electron (i mean joplin now uses electron 26).
Hey Jack. Slightly OT, just realised that the Note List Preview plugin is your work. Thank you so much for this - absolutely game-changer! For me it totally transforms Joplin into the Evernote realm - so nice and such great work.
Thanks for the info. It's hard to understand why though - at the moment all recent versions (ie past year or so) seem to be compatible. For me one of the vibes of open source software is the freedom of backwards compatibility - maybe I'm misreading things - and that's something I really like about it, ie no forced upgrades.
The V3 incompatibility is the trash folder support. If you were on a newer release (I.E 2.14), when V3 lands, the 2.14 releases will complain the sync target is newer than what the client supports and demand an upgrade to V3.
But, from the perspective of the developers, that's a clear point where one version and the next aren't compatible even if the results aren't necessarily bad, when it comes to testing in the future, nobody will be testing the older releases with the newer ones because the assumption is that everyone will have updated; so it might not be a case of the app instantly cuts out for you, but it's very much a case of "use at own risk".
Hi, I also have Win 7 (still receiving the updates from MS), and have the same issue with the latest Electron incompatibility making me stop at earlier Joplin version.
I have 2 ideas how to overcome this and use the latest Joplin version, but not yet moved to the practical implementation. Share them with you in case you are interested:
I was a bit wary but tried in on a cloned drive and tried to install the latest Joplin release. No luck unfortunately. I didn't try all the possibilities/settings though - maybe someone else would know what to do. The release notes do mention being able to run Electron apps. Anyway, something to keep an eye on perhaps...
If you have another machine, you can install VirtualBox(free) or VMware(paid) and set up a Win7 virtual machine first, then test if your hardware and software are working in it.
Given that you don't want to introduce any breaking changes to your workstation, I think it's better to keep your workstation dedicated for audio stuffs, and use a new machine for the other stuffs, like Joplin or going online. It does costs some money, but It can keep your workspace safe. The old operating systems is more vulnerable to the cyber attacks, so It's better to keep it isolated. Anyway, this is just my personal advice.
VirtualBox runs smoothly on Win7, and takes the operation system image easily. Previously I also used VMWare Workstation Player, but since some time it is not compatible with Win7.
You have to have rather big RAM to allocate another operation system in memory, and I think the Docker would require less system resources.
To be honest I think it's all a bit moot for me anyway. The way I (and I imagine others) use Joplin is that it has to be available for quick drag and drop operations, access to email and files, quick multitasking etc. I think putting it on a VM would make things too messy, for me at least.
In graphics field we have nice 3090Ti, which covers all future needs in that area, without any compromises.
Drivers for 3000 series will be updated [till October of 2024]. So, in terms of hardware we are substantially future proofed here.
I often see recommendations not to use Windows 7 in internet environment.
I simply do not agree on that statement because of daily Windows 7 usage as a main operating system.
So, the fundamental motivation here is to share my personal experience with Windows 7 in reality of 2024.
Properly patched and configured system is fully capable of modern internet surfing without any workarounds.
Advanced users almost never run antivirus bloatware because they are simply a waste of CPU cycles plus a big privacyblack hole.
Such software is intended and trained to dial back home after some period of time to drop collected information regardingyour private life.
Better to install good software and hardware firewalls.
For those of you who are mumbling about Windows 7 EOL in terms of security patches:
extended ESU-enabled machines will receive updates [till October 2024], so OS is STILL supported.
Moreover, it looks like that Windows 7 will be supported right till [winter of 2026]!
It will be relevant to note about extended paid [0patch] support also.So we have options here.
One more really important thing to mention, is that most of the recent hacks are in a form of data breaches, which has nothing to do withOS security.
Moreover, current market share of Windows 7 is around 3%. After complete decline of ESU patching total share will surely fallbelow 1.5% or something. Hackers will definitely do not target attacks against such small target group and will prefer to spent their time onmore popular operating systems.
Such approach will bring more successful hacks to them.
Wise usage of head allows you to construct suchno-so complex logical conclusions and turn reality for your own good.
I can go on forever, these are just the most obvious things which come to mind instantly.
Windows 7 is faster in archiving or copying files. Blender 3D rendering is also faster in Windows 7.Ah, just though that it will be nice to mention that kernel latency in windows 10/11,
which is called [DPC], is [not so great] [at all].Big system latencies can be very irritating especially in music creation.
One of the most important advantages of Windows 7 operating system is availability of rich documentation.
If you run into a problem in your workflow it is most likely that issue is already documented and solved using multiple ways.
All you need to do is to select the most appropriate method for you.
[Stackoverflow] and [superuser] are nice places to look, but for the most part generic internet search will show you the way out.
Such disposition of things can be compared with super friendly-Linux community, like [Endavour OS]
(they helped me with so much stuff, no even asking why or sending me to rhetorical google search).
As for music cooking you have full freedom here too.Want powerful tracker-based DAW? Latest Renoise 3.4.3 is [here].
Like to do simple chiptunes or prefer more lightweight software here is [latest version of OpenMPT].
[Foobar 2000] as a modern advanced music player, which covers all needs in playing hi-res lossless music of various audio formats.
Summarizing things up, here is a link to convenient [list of modern Windows 7 applications], which can be used in 2024 reality.
In addition to that: link to [critical dates in Windows 7 timeline].Hope that these one will fix you up by a noticeable margin.