Dear SS3 developers,
We are developing an SS3 assessment model for Northeast Atlantic black scabbardfish (Aphanopus carbo) and would appreciate your advice on how best to represent its ontogenetic migration within the SS3 spatial framework.
We have experience developing single-area SS3 assessments, but this is our first attempt to implement a spatial model.
Current biological knowledge suggests the following life cycle: spawning occurs around Madeira, larvae and/or eggs progressively migrate northwards and recruitment occurs W of the British Isles where juveniles remain some years to grow, then move to the Portuguese mainland coast where they remain some years to grow, and finally immature adults move to Madeira to mature and spawn.
Our available data include:
We are considering either a single-area model or a spatial model with multiple areas representing the main stages of the life cycle. Our main question, however, is not whether to use a spatial model, but how to configure the migration process in SS3.
Since SS3 implements movement by age, we would appreciate your advice on the following:
Our goal is to develop a biologically realistic model while keeping the configuration as simple as possible.
Thank you very much for your time and for the continued development of SS3.
Best regards,
Richard D. Methot Jr.
Stock Assessment Research Scientist (ST)
Northwest Fisheries Science Center
NOAA Fisheries | U.S. Department of Commerce
Office: (425) 666-9893
Mobile: (301) 830-2454
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Dear Richard,
Thank you very much for your detailed response and for sharing the articles and training material. They are very useful. I would also like to thank Mark Maunder for the last reference he sent, which is particularly helpful to have as guidance.
Regarding the available data, we do not have age data. However, we do have CPUE information for all areas, as well as length-composition data that clearly reflect differences in size structure among areas, consistent with the expected population movement.
Your suggestion of defining two areas, with Madeira as Area 1 representing the main spawning area, seems to be a good and practical simplification. However, given that we do not have a known migration rate, I wonder whether an alternative approach could be to treat the three areas as fleets rather than explicit spatial areas, while assuming common biological parameters and spawning only in Area 1, Madeira.
Under this approach, the model would not estimate movement explicitly, but the area-specific CPUE and length compositions could still inform differences in availability and exploitation patterns.
What is your opinion of this approximation? Would it be a reasonable intermediate approach before moving towards a spatial model with explicit movement?
Many thanks again for your guidance.
Best regards,
Paola Castellanos Ossa
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Hi Mark,
Thank you very much for sharing this reference. It is extremely helpful, and I really appreciate you pointing me to Haikun's work.
This approach seems to fit very well with our current data situation, and I think it provides a very practical starting point. We will use the areas-as-fleets approach as the basis for configuring our first SS3 model and then evaluate whether the available data support moving towards a more explicit spatial structure in the future.
Thank you again for your guidance and for sharing these valuable references.
Best regards,
Paola
Hi Mark,
Thank you very much for sharing this reference. It is extremely helpful, and I really appreciate you pointing me to Haikun's work.
This approach seems to fit very well with our current data situation, and I think it provides a very practical starting point. We will use the areas-as-fleets approach as the basis for configuring our first SS3 model and then evaluate whether the available data support moving towards a more explicit spatial structure in the future.
Thank you again for your guidance and for sharing these valuable references.
Best regards,
Paola