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arju...@gmail.com
Dec 20, 2008, 1:38:43 AM12/20/08
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Dear Friends,
I have read few books of this so called Dr. Vedavyas.
He wrote lot of stuff to fool people. He said 1999 Kaliyuga is going
to end and 3rd world war starts. He talks about Kalki Avatar. He talks
about his own version of Gita.
Now we are here almost in 2009 10 years after his nonsense of "end of
kaliyuga". I feel very sad to see how people are not willing to think.
They blindly beleive someone without reason. Does his followers ever
question the authenticity of this persen. If he is fooling uneducated
people, It is understandable. How can educated people like you can get
fooled.
Dont think I am a atheist. I am not.
So coming to Bhagavadgita, There has been 1000 or more commentaries
existing today. Many of them before Muslim invasion. Our acharyas
travelled through out India talking about Gita interpretations.
Noboudy knows about this Gita with 745 slokas. Now this guy finds 745
slokas some where. What a great fortune???
If that is true why no acharya in the past not talk about it. I will
be happy, If what he said is true. But unfortunately it is less
likely.
Dont get cheated by him. He likes to be famous. So he writes some
thing which catchy and gets name and money.
I am not saying dont follow him. All ask is question his authority.
Get answers. Ask him why the things he said before 1999 proved wrong.
Dont get fooled by answers that can not be verified.
Ultimately if you want to fool your self by thinking that this person
is genuine, Only God can save you.
Note: I read many of his books. I also happen to meet him once.
I have read few books of this so called Dr. Vedavyas.
He wrote lot of stuff to fool people. He said 1999 Kaliyuga is going
to end and 3rd world war starts. He talks about Kalki Avatar. He talks
about his own version of Gita.
Now we are here almost in 2009 10 years after his nonsense of "end of
kaliyuga". I feel very sad to see how people are not willing to think.
They blindly beleive someone without reason. Does his followers ever
question the authenticity of this persen. If he is fooling uneducated
people, It is understandable. How can educated people like you can get
fooled.
Dont think I am a atheist. I am not.
So coming to Bhagavadgita, There has been 1000 or more commentaries
existing today. Many of them before Muslim invasion. Our acharyas
travelled through out India talking about Gita interpretations.
Noboudy knows about this Gita with 745 slokas. Now this guy finds 745
slokas some where. What a great fortune???
If that is true why no acharya in the past not talk about it. I will
be happy, If what he said is true. But unfortunately it is less
likely.
Dont get cheated by him. He likes to be famous. So he writes some
thing which catchy and gets name and money.
I am not saying dont follow him. All ask is question his authority.
Get answers. Ask him why the things he said before 1999 proved wrong.
Dont get fooled by answers that can not be verified.
Ultimately if you want to fool your self by thinking that this person
is genuine, Only God can save you.
Note: I read many of his books. I also happen to meet him once.
hari
Dec 21, 2008, 7:49:03 AM12/21/08
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hello dear friend,
i gone through your mail about Dr.Vedavyas, i hope
that you are not red all three books about END OF KALI YUGA, and there
a lot literature available regarding end of kali yuga, even in
BHAVISYA PURANA, NUROSTRODAMUS, VEDA PANCHAVATI, KALAJNANA OF
VEERABRAMHEDRA SWAMY AND SO MANY BOOKS EXPLAIN THE END OF THE YUGA. As
per astrology all these people said approximately same . therefore
the yuga end dose not come all in one day, Some of these books said
that the people who remain one for seven thousand at end of yuga.
hari
On Dec 20, 11:38 am, "arjun....@gmail.com" <arjun....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> question the authenticity of this person. If he is fooling uneducated
>
> So coming to Bhagavad Gita, There has been 1000 or more commentaries
i gone through your mail about Dr.Vedavyas, i hope
that you are not red all three books about END OF KALI YUGA, and there
a lot literature available regarding end of kali yuga, even in
BHAVISYA PURANA, NUROSTRODAMUS, VEDA PANCHAVATI, KALAJNANA OF
VEERABRAMHEDRA SWAMY AND SO MANY BOOKS EXPLAIN THE END OF THE YUGA. As
per astrology all these people said approximately same . therefore
the yuga end dose not come all in one day, Some of these books said
that the people who remain one for seven thousand at end of yuga.
hari
On Dec 20, 11:38 am, "arjun....@gmail.com" <arjun....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> I have read few books of this so called Dr. Vedavyas.
>
> He wrote lot of stuff to fool people. He said 1999 Kaliyuga is going
> to end and 3rd world war starts. He talks about Kalki Avatar. He talks
> about his own version of Gita.
>
> Now we are here almost in 2009 10 years after his nonsense of "end of
> kaliyuga". I feel very sad to see how people are not willing to think.
> They blindly believe someone without reason. Does his followers ever
> I have read few books of this so called Dr. Vedavyas.
>
> He wrote lot of stuff to fool people. He said 1999 Kaliyuga is going
> to end and 3rd world war starts. He talks about Kalki Avatar. He talks
> about his own version of Gita.
>
> Now we are here almost in 2009 10 years after his nonsense of "end of
> kaliyuga". I feel very sad to see how people are not willing to think.
> question the authenticity of this person. If he is fooling uneducated
> people, It is understandable. How can educated people like you can get
> fooled.
>
> Don'T think I am a atheist. I am not.
> fooled.
>
>
> So coming to Bhagavad Gita, There has been 1000 or more commentaries
> existing today. Many of them before Muslim invasion. Our acharyas
> travelled through out India talking about Gita interpretations.
>
> Nobody knows about this Gita with 745 slokas. Now this guy finds 745
> travelled through out India talking about Gita interpretations.
>
> slokas some where. What a great fortune???
>
> If that is true why no acharya in the past not talk about it. I will
> be happy, If what he said is true. But unfortunately it is less
> likely.
>
> Don'T get cheated by him. He likes to be famous. So he writes some
>
> If that is true why no acharya in the past not talk about it. I will
> be happy, If what he said is true. But unfortunately it is less
> likely.
>
> thing which catchy and gets name and money.
>
> I am not saying don't follow him. All ask is question his authority.
>
> Get answers. Ask him why the things he said before 1999 proved wrong.
> Don'T get fooled by answers that can not be verified.
hari
Feb 13, 2009, 8:37:13 AM2/13/09
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From long time i am waiting MAIL from arjun and about HIS TOPICS.
Thanks.
On Dec 20 2008, 11:38 am, "arjun....@gmail.com" <arjun....@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks.
On Dec 20 2008, 11:38 am, "arjun....@gmail.com" <arjun....@gmail.com>
wrote:
Arjun Rao
Feb 15, 2009, 6:05:58 PM2/15/09
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Hi Hari,
I am not sure what are waiting for.Am I missing any mail? I did not get reply for my last mail.
Regards,
Arjun
I am not sure what are waiting for.Am I missing any mail? I did not get reply for my last mail.
Regards,
Arjun
Arjun Rao
Feb 15, 2009, 6:11:35 PM2/15/09
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The following mail was sent to Hari on 12/21. Probably because I did not do reply all it did not appear in the list.
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Dear Hari,
I have read Nostrodomous book. But you know there are various interpretations and nothing is clear.
I still like to find a person who has seen Kalajnanam. Because
there is no such book available. As per legacy It was buried under a
tree.
Bhavisya Purana I have read. Most of that I dont know how much to
beleive. Even I accept that can you send me the slokas that predict end
of kaliyuga after 5000 years. Most of the other puranas clearly say
that Kaliyuga is 4,32,000 years.
Forget about all that. He became famous with 1999-Kaliyuganta. Can you tell me one statement that became true.
Regards,
Arjun.
Lord Loh.
Feb 15, 2009, 7:47:36 PM2/15/09
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You will find any mails that you might have missed here...
http://groups.google.com/group/srimad-bhagavad-gita/browse_thread/thread/a42ef0a21b587201
I presume you have found it...
As of Kali Yuga, I have heard the om shanti people telling that it is
a cycle of 1000 years.... 250 years per yuga. :-D And the sati yuga is
just round the corner!
Ha ha ha... But they probably have a different interpretation...
Bharath Bhushan Lohray.
On Feb 15, 5:11 pm, Arjun Rao <arjun....@gmail.com> wrote:
> The following mail was sent to Hari on 12/21. Probably because I did not do
> reply all it did not appear in the list.
http://groups.google.com/group/srimad-bhagavad-gita/browse_thread/thread/a42ef0a21b587201
I presume you have found it...
As of Kali Yuga, I have heard the om shanti people telling that it is
a cycle of 1000 years.... 250 years per yuga. :-D And the sati yuga is
just round the corner!
Ha ha ha... But they probably have a different interpretation...
Bharath Bhushan Lohray.
On Feb 15, 5:11 pm, Arjun Rao <arjun....@gmail.com> wrote:
> The following mail was sent to Hari on 12/21. Probably because I did not do
> reply all it did not appear in the list.
> Arjun Rao to hkishan2
> show details 12/21/08
> Reply
> show details 12/21/08
>
> Dear Hari,
> I have read Nostrodomous book. But you know there are various
> interpretations and nothing is clear.
> I still like to find a person who has seen Kalajnanam. Because there is no
> such book available. As per legacy It was buried under a tree.
> Bhavisya Purana I have read. Most of that I dont know how much to beleive.
> Even I accept that can you send me the slokas that predict end of kaliyuga
> after 5000 years. Most of the other puranas clearly say that Kaliyuga is
> 4,32,000 years.
>
> Forget about all that. He became famous with 1999-Kaliyuganta. Can you tell
> me one statement that became true.
> Regards,
> Arjun.
>
> Dear Hari,
> I have read Nostrodomous book. But you know there are various
> interpretations and nothing is clear.
> I still like to find a person who has seen Kalajnanam. Because there is no
> such book available. As per legacy It was buried under a tree.
> Bhavisya Purana I have read. Most of that I dont know how much to beleive.
> Even I accept that can you send me the slokas that predict end of kaliyuga
> after 5000 years. Most of the other puranas clearly say that Kaliyuga is
> 4,32,000 years.
>
> Forget about all that. He became famous with 1999-Kaliyuganta. Can you tell
> me one statement that became true.
> Regards,
> Arjun.
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Arjun Rao <arjun....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Hari,
> > I am not sure what are waiting for.Am I missing any mail? I did not get
> > reply for my last mail.
> > Regards,
> > Arjun
>
> > Hi Hari,
> > I am not sure what are waiting for.Am I missing any mail? I did not get
> > reply for my last mail.
> > Regards,
> > Arjun
>
Arjun Rao
Mar 13, 2009, 8:27:21 PM3/13/09
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Hi Hari,
I guess anyone can believe whatever they like to believe. But truth always different. Krishna says in Bhagavad gita that Brahmas day is 1000 yugas. At the end of each day creation will be destroyed.
Chapter 8 slokas 17-18. I am refering to standard gita. :)
If each yuga is 1000 years, One day of brahma 1000 * 1000 is 10,00,000 years. This is not acceptable as per scince as well. Because you find objects which are much older than 1 million years.
So If you like you can believe whatever you want. But truth is always truth. Law is law. You can not say my version of law says differently. Of all the things you did not quote a single word from sastra to prove your point.
If you have some solid argument, get back to me. Otherwise please do not reply.
Regards,
Arjun.
shanthagomathi karthikayini
Mar 14, 2009, 12:49:10 PM3/14/09
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Hi Arjun,
Sorry for interrupting your conversation with Hari. But I feel its my duty to say the "Truth And Law". Since truth is always truth. Law is law.
Arjun Rao,
As by your words i can clearly say. Your calculation is wrong. Kindly check it and send..
1000 Youga = 1 Day of Brahma as well as
1000 yuga = 1 night
so 2000 yuga is a whole day for Brahma.
(Satya + Thretha + Dhuvabara + Kali yuga) * 1000 = 1kalpa (i.e Brahma's 1 day)
Satya Yuga = 17,28,000 Human Years
Theretha = 12,96,000 Human Years
Dhivabara = 8,64,000 Human Years
Kali Youga = 4,32,000 Human Years
Totally 4320000 * 1000 years = 4320000000 Years is Brahma's Day as well as
4320000000 is Brahma's 1 Night
totally 8640000000 years is Brahma's whole day.
I kindly request you to search any other object are till existing after this many years. Since you people are believing Science you will try the object and come back.
--
Regards
Shanthi
Regards
Shanthi
Arjun Rao
Apr 13, 2009, 6:17:23 PM4/13/09
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Hi,
I dont know how to address your name in short. :) whatever it is
My calculation is based on Hari's argument that each yuga is 250 years. I was trying to say that is not possible. So you misunderstood my mail.
Next thing about find an object of 8640000000 old, every thing you see is of that old including all the particles in our body as nothing in created new after that. Even If you cant believe It is true. Whether object retains its properties for such a long time is a different question.
I am not a supporter of scince aganast religion. But scince does not accept the age of universe as given in scriptures because It is too big for them. But the number which we get by assuming the yuga to be 250 years is so small that scince thinks that this is too small age for the universe. That is the point.
Next important thing is about main point of the topc:
1. Validity of the Bhagavadgita published by Dr Vedavyas
2. Authenticity of Dr Vedavyas.
I started this topic to discuss about the above 2 points. But no boudy bothered about that But fighting over minor details, That too without even understanding content of my mail.
That's the reason I have the subject of this thread that way. :)
I dont know how to address your name in short. :) whatever it is
My calculation is based on Hari's argument that each yuga is 250 years. I was trying to say that is not possible. So you misunderstood my mail.
Next thing about find an object of 8640000000 old, every thing you see is of that old including all the particles in our body as nothing in created new after that. Even If you cant believe It is true. Whether object retains its properties for such a long time is a different question.
I am not a supporter of scince aganast religion. But scince does not accept the age of universe as given in scriptures because It is too big for them. But the number which we get by assuming the yuga to be 250 years is so small that scince thinks that this is too small age for the universe. That is the point.
Next important thing is about main point of the topc:
1. Validity of the Bhagavadgita published by Dr Vedavyas
2. Authenticity of Dr Vedavyas.
I started this topic to discuss about the above 2 points. But no boudy bothered about that But fighting over minor details, That too without even understanding content of my mail.
That's the reason I have the subject of this thread that way. :)
arju...@gmail.com
Apr 13, 2009, 6:18:45 PM4/13/09
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Hi Kesav,
I am not sure If this leads to anything. I dont check my gmail that
often. Sorry for the late response.
I dont think you people understands the point of discussion. Dr
Vedavyas says that kaliyuga ends in year 2000. I said that is wrong by
quoting sastra that kaliyuga is 4,32,000 years just not 5000 years as
said by Br Vedavyas. You say that Kaliyouga is 4,32,000 years and
still talk in support of Hari. I cant understand If you understand
what is going on.
I am not sure If this leads to anything. I dont check my gmail that
often. Sorry for the late response.
I dont think you people understands the point of discussion. Dr
Vedavyas says that kaliyuga ends in year 2000. I said that is wrong by
quoting sastra that kaliyuga is 4,32,000 years just not 5000 years as
said by Br Vedavyas. You say that Kaliyouga is 4,32,000 years and
still talk in support of Hari. I cant understand If you understand
what is going on.
Bharath Bhushan Lohray
Apr 13, 2009, 6:26:53 PM4/13/09
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I suggest people read the first link below... I am not an expert but this looks relavent.
Warm regards,
Bharath Bhushan Lohray
Arjun Rao
Apr 15, 2009, 12:01:43 PM4/15/09
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Hi,
I read this link. It is lot of information. I am sure they might have done lot of research. But 1000 years Kaliyuga, 2000 dvapara, 3000 for treta and 4000 for satya yuga concept may not be correct. I need to see what Mahabharat actually say. I may not be in position or qualification to do that.
But Using simple logic, If you accept that as true, the following cases apply:
1. Assuming we are living in Kaliyuga, Krishna must have lived on this earth 1000 years ago.
I guss that's not true.
2. Assuming that Krishna lived on this earth 5131 years ago, Kaliyuga ended in 2000 BC. just 100 years back Satya yuga ended. Now we are in Treta yuga.
So I guess we can not accept any of that case.
Regards,
Arjun.
I read this link. It is lot of information. I am sure they might have done lot of research. But 1000 years Kaliyuga, 2000 dvapara, 3000 for treta and 4000 for satya yuga concept may not be correct. I need to see what Mahabharat actually say. I may not be in position or qualification to do that.
But Using simple logic, If you accept that as true, the following cases apply:
1. Assuming we are living in Kaliyuga, Krishna must have lived on this earth 1000 years ago.
I guss that's not true.
2. Assuming that Krishna lived on this earth 5131 years ago, Kaliyuga ended in 2000 BC. just 100 years back Satya yuga ended. Now we are in Treta yuga.
So I guess we can not accept any of that case.
Regards,
Arjun.
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Dear Sirs(?)Madams(?).
The calculations of each Yuga is in Millions of years, The calculation according to Vedic texts are Manvantara, Kalpa, Yuga, Varsha, Maasa, Paksha, thithi . We are at present in Vaivahvata Manvantara, Shweta Varaha Kalpa, Kaliyuga, Vikrama or Shalivahana shaka as per the regional following of calenders. So please do not confuse yourselves with the calculations do your nitya karma according to your own choice and faith with full conviction and sincerity and leave the rest to God. He knows what is best for all of us.
feel free to ask me about vedic scripts or other topics I would be glad to share my thought with you.
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