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[C Muthukumar]

Joy :
" Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one
sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no
repentance"

As per the above statement ninety nine righteous persons are behind
the one sinner who repents (that too through one and one particular
Lord to the God)

Neither first nor the second part of the statement appears to be true.

How do we convince such people that such statement is not correct

[Bharath Bhushan Lohray]

This statement seems so axiomatic. Any rational person should see through it. It seem to encourage people to sin and then repent on it. And then sin again so than they can repent. So sinning brings joy to heaven as there is no repentance without sinning.

Lord Bharath Bhushan Lohray
महामहिम भरथ भूषण लोहरे

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[Krishnarjuna Rao]

Hi,

You have to understand the spirit of it. For the good people you are already happy. But when bad child became good person you feel more happy to see him than who is already good. For god every one is equal.

Regards,

Arjun.

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[सुरेश शुक्ल]

Actually I saw the movie "Jesus of Nazareth" before reading bible. So
this line didn't create any confusion for me.

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The way the scene went was that Jesus was popular in local community
and did miracle of abnormally high number of fishes getting caught by
dissapointed fisherman. The community was very happy and started
respecting him.
The tax collecting agents for Roman empire were considered evil and
going to such a persons house was disregarded.

The tax collector heard of the news of big catch and came to collect
high taxes corresponding to that. On scene he invited Jesus and Jesus
accepted. This displeased the community and more so for one of them
(Peter).

This unhappy person (Peter) was consoled through this parable which
Jesus narrated at tax collectors house. Magically, Peter was drawn to
this house and on hearing the story was convinced of the existence of
a bigger family. All were happy after this story narration.
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Its an Italian movie but is available with subtitles and dubbing.

You need to be jealous like Peter, to go through the pain and then can
appreciate this.

This is my personal understanding of the story, the statement and your
doubt.

I hope this was helpful,
Suresh

On Aug 8, 3:46 am, Krishnarjuna Rao <arjun....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> You have to understand the spirit of it. For the good people you are already happy. But when bad child became good person you feel more happy to see him than who is already good. For god every one is equal.
> Regards,
> Arjun.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

> On Aug 7, 2010, at 2:16 AM, Bharath Bhushan Lohray <lord....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This statement seems so axiomatic. Any rational person should see through it. It seem to encourage people to sin and then repent on it. And then sin again so than they can repent. So sinning brings joy to heaven as there is no repentance without sinning.
>
> > Lord Bharath Bhushan Lohray
> > महामहिम भरथ भूषण लोहरे
>

> > On 6 August 2010 08:59, C Muthukumar <cmuthukumar1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Joy :
> > " Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one
> > sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no
> > repentance"
>
> > As per the above statement  ninety nine righteous persons are behind
> > the one sinner who repents (that too through one and one particular
> > Lord to the God)
>
> > Neither first nor the second part of the statement appears to be true.
>
> > How do we convince such people that such statement is not correct
>
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[Kesav Daund]

Dear friend, we are in 21st century having access to all literature and materials of other religions/faiths. Our own Aryan faith and culture is so vast that even information and knowledge equal to the smallest particle of atom has not been accessed and studied by us. It is pity that we keep ourselves at the levels of Maharshi Vyasa and alike and compare & study other religion which is mere time killing and deviating our intellect from Sadhana and development of social-cultural relationship and all. Pl do not send me such mails as I am not interested in any comparative studies of other religions/faiths. Thanks and regards. K P Daund.

2010/8/16 सुरेश शुक्ल <sureshk...@gmail.com>

[सुरेश कुमार शुक्ल]

I agree with you that subject matter is vast and needs a lot of study.
But consider this as a chance encounter that a fellow of yours had
while visiting another country and meeting with good people.

I will share a interesting fact here. In music there is phenomenon :
- to perform/create a compisition, a person needs to master a lot of
things (sur /notes, taal, raga)
- even a casual listener can quickly judge and enjoy it or even
criticise that something is not right

Very similar to music, in my humble opinion, it doesn't require the
greatness of Sage Vyasa to realize that Bible has lots of messages
which start to ring in heart in one reading/listening and a little
contemplation.

Anyway, qualifications aside, discussions can go with positive
attitude of "let light come from all sides".

best regards,
Suresh

2010/9/1 Kesav Daund <pdkes...@gmail.com>: