Does Springdale Linux Still Exist?

[Jay F. Shachter]

Esteemed Colleagues:

Does Springdale Linux still exist? On https://springdale.math.ias.edu
I see that the last boot.iso was for version 9.2 and the last DVD was
for version 7.5. RHEL 9.3 was released on November 17, 2023, RHEL 9.4
on April 30, 2024, and RHEL 9.5 on November 12, 2024. I understand
that neither I nor anyone else on this mailing list is a paying
customer, that Springdale Linux is a volunteer project, and that a
legitimate response to "Version 9.5 isn't supported" (or "Version 10
Beta isn't supported") is "then you go and support it". I am not
complaining. I ask the question solely for informational purposes.
Thank you in advance for any and all replies.

Jay F. Shachter
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[Akemi Yagi]

On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 12:26 PM Jay F. Shachter <j...@m5.chicago.il.us> wrote:
>
> Esteemed Colleagues:
>
> Does Springdale Linux still exist? On https://springdale.math.ias.edu
> I see that the last boot.iso was for version 9.2 and the last DVD was
> for version 7.5. RHEL 9.3 was released on November 17, 2023, RHEL 9.4
> on April 30, 2024, and RHEL 9.5 on November 12, 2024. I understand
> that neither I nor anyone else on this mailing list is a paying
> customer, that Springdale Linux is a volunteer project, and that a
> legitimate response to "Version 9.5 isn't supported" (or "Version 10
> Beta isn't supported") is "then you go and support it". I am not
> complaining. I ask the question solely for informational purposes.
> Thank you in advance for any and all replies.
>
> Jay F. Shachter

Looks like the project is no longer active. I wonder if you can use
other RHEL rebuild OS such as AlmaLinux or Rocky Linux.

Akemi

[Jay F. Shachter]

Centuries ago, Nostradamus predicted that Akemi Yagi would write on Sun Jan 12 20:33:52 2025:

(I notice that you didn't mention Oracle Linux, although I thought --
please correct me if I am mistaken -- that Oracle Linux is also an
RHEL clone, other than for its inclusion of Oracle's optional
"unbreakable kernel", whatever that is, in addition to the Linux
kernel used by RHEL.)

If the Springdale project is, in fact, no longer active, and if it is
unlikely to become active again, then I must change to another RHEL
clone such as AlmaLinux or Rocky Linux.

What are the differences between AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux? Which
distribution is better for what? I assume that they must be different
in some way other than their branding, because otherwise there would
be no reason for both of them to exist.

Does anyone on this mailing list know how to upgrade from Springdale
Linux 9.2 to a more recent (preferably the most recent) distribution
of a different RHEL clone? I do want to upgrade my system, because in
its current state I keep on getting mysterious "undefined symbol:
_ZN11QToolButton13checkStateSetEv" error messages whenever I invoke a
program that uses /lib64/libKF5WidgetsAddons.so.5 (this is, in fact,
the reason why I initially looked at the Springdale web site a few
days ago, and discovered that the project appears to be dead).

As always, thank you in advance for any and all replies.


>
> Akemi

>

Jay F. Shachter
6424 North Whipple Street
Chicago IL 60645-4111
+1 773 7613784 landline
+1 410 9964737 GoogleVoice

j...@m5.chicago.il.us
http://m5.chicago.il.us

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scienze non val per una scintilla di ragione di un solo"

[Peter]

On 14/01/25 09:48, Jay F. Shachter wrote:
> What are the differences between AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux?

They're pretty much the same with minor differences in philosophy.

> Which
> distribution is better for what? I assume that they must be different
> in some way other than their branding, because otherwise there would
> be no reason for both of them to exist.

They are nearly identical, but a google search for "alma vs rocky" shows
heaps of results so you can research and decide.

> Does anyone on this mailing list know how to upgrade from Springdale
> Linux 9.2 to a more recent (preferably the most recent) distribution
> of a different RHEL clone?

Most of the RHEL clones provide a utility to migrate from another EL.
Rocky Linux has Migrate2Rocky which is known to work with Springdale
Linux as the source distribution:

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rocky-linux/rocky-tools/refs/heads/main/migrate2rocky/migrate2rocky9.sh

Alma linux has a migration page which gives instructions on how to
migrate and while they don't explicitly list Springdale as supported it
should work:

https://wiki.almalinux.org/documentation/migration-guide.html#how-to-migrate

I believe Oracle and RHEL have similar methods. No matter which distro
you migrate to it is highly recommended that you fully back up and take
a snapshot if you can before running the migration.


Peter

[Akemi Yagi]

Yes, Oracle is also a candidate. A complete list can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_derivatives

About AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux, I believe both are solid projects.You
can get to their developers and supporting communities through forums,
chat, and mailing list. You should be fine by choosing either one. If
you need a strict rebuild OS, you may want Rocky Linux. Alma may not
be as strict. For example their kernel has re-enabled certain drivers
that are disabled in the RHEL kernel. However they keep binary
compatibility.

Akemi

[Dave Fogg Postles]

... of check out the 'ranking' at https://distrowatch.com/

Some, howveer, require subscriptions - like EuroLinux.

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