Garmin Turn By Turn Navigation
Octavis Uberstine
Anyone know if you can turn off turn by turn navigation on a saved course? I find it really annoying that it pops up with the map, when on a climb, with ClimbPro running. UK roads and climbs have all sorts of roads branching off and changes in road names. I know you can press a button to remove the map, when it pops up but that is not easy when in mid climb, Vo2Max.
There is also Menu -> Navigation -> Courses -> Course Options -> Turn Guidance which can be set to off, but I have found the 530 seems to ignore this selection as it presents the turn guidance anyway, even when this is off.
If you follow a course that you already know and set it mostly to get ClimbPro and other metrics, then just use the course but turn off TBT in the Saved Course list page, the 3bar icon at the bottom. Put the TBT slider to Off. Then the course loads, metrics are computed, ClimbPro should work but you won't get any TBT prompts.
I've done some testing to fully understand the interaction of the settings. I wanted to better understand this for myself as well so this discussion was good to do the experimenting. Here is what I found.
1) Turn Guidance setting - This setting found at Find a Course -> Course Options -> Turn Guidance controls whether TBT will be enabled period. The on/off choice must be set BEFORE selecting a course to ride. If this setting is enabled when you instruct the 530 to ride a course, TBT info is established in the navigation session and it CAN'T be disabled once you've started the course. If this setting is disabled when you instruct the 530 to ride a course, TBT info is not included in the navigation and it CAN'T be enabled once you've started the course. If you want to change this setting once you've started a course, you must stop the course, change this setting, then start the course again. You can't even get to this setting once a course is started. This setting is remembered and will remain the same through power cycles of the 530. So if you never want TBT, just disable this setting and you'll never see them. Change it before starting a course if you want a different choice on TBT than was set in your previous ride.
2) Navigation Prompts - This setting controls what kind of navigation prompts (TBT) you get if you have TBT enabled when you started a course. It is found in Activity Profile -> Navigation -> Navigation Prompts. You can therefore see that it can be set uniquely for each activity profile. Choices are Text Only or Map. When set at Text Only, the TBT will be presented at the bottom of the current screen when a turn is approaching. When set to Map, the 530 will jump to the map screen whenever a turn is approaching. After you've completed the turn the 530 will return to the page you were on automatically. This setting is changeable during a ride. I noticed a defect in my testing - when set to Map such that the map comes up as a turn approaches, the distance to the turn does not count down as you approach the turn. I'll have to play with this more to see if the problem repeats, but I don't like having the Map come up so I don't particularly care much as I'll leave this set to Text Only. Keep in mind, if the setting in #1 above is disabled, this setting has no meaning as there are no TBT prompts.
3 - Guide Text - This setting controls how Guide Text is displayed on the top of the Map page. It is found at Activity Profile -> Navigation -> Map -> Guide Text. You can choose When Navigating, Always Display, or Never Display. This ONLY controls TBT in the Map page, even if this is set to Never Display, if TBT is enabled in #1 above, TBT will be shown at the bottom of all other screens as a turn approaches.
OK, lots of info, but it's needed to fully understand what Garmin has failed to adequately describe. There are enough settings that interplay together, one needs to get this level of detail to understand how to make the 530 do what you want. I hope this helps.
On my old 520, (not the Plus), I can set Turn Guidence to OFF and if I load a TCX course I will still get bottom of screen (non map page) or Guide Text (on map page) prompts with turn short name, direction symbol and countdown all from the TCX course point entries. Because it does not need to do any "calculating" the course starts without any delay and I can control the prompts by adding / deleting cue entries when I create the course.
That's awesome information, many thanks. I've just had my first long ride using the 530 with a route selected, and after the map page cycled through, there was another page that appeared every time which was a list of turns coming up ...... I've no idea where that appears from, I see it referred to in any documentation, nor in any online discussion. Have you any idea whats going on there?
With the standard Instinct, I and other users, had a lot of problems with the Turn-by-Turn navigation. So much problems that, at the end, I've downgraded the firmware many times and now I'm stuck at a super-old firmware version that allow me to use the Turn-by-Turn navigation with no issues (if you are interested, this is the dedicated topic: forums.garmin.com/.../turn-by-turn-navigation )
I have watched all the reviews online but none show the navigation function in detail, but the idea I got from the screenshots I saw is that the Solar version does not have the TBT navigation function, exactly the same issue that occurred when came out the 6.x firmware version of the standard Instinct.
I haven't used TBT as it didn't seem to fit my needs, but I regularly use waypoint to waypoint navigation along a route as described here -recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-solar/236445/distance-to-next-waypoint
Many thanks for this tip, I created a route yesterday and suffered the frustration of no turn-by-turn instructions, even though previous routes had. Today when I rode, all worked as expected, thank you once agin.
Probably not something you want to hear, but if you really get into mapping having a watch with maps built in that you can send a route to from Garmin Connect is a game changer. Its so nice to see where you are and how long until your next turn and see the route and all the roads on the watch. I use to just pull up my Strava heatmap on my phone and hope for the best before I had that option. Creating and carrying maps or having to look at your phone all the time definitely a pain.
So i stick to strava on mobile during the run and will use rungo for sure again on less complex neighbourhood runs. Some village-field runs like this would be good for that
much less turns and longer straights would be ideal to put the mobile in my flipbelt
Correct. I run with the mobile and watch the dot progression covering the route. Planning is all. And fun is anticipating the most efficient route to take. Planning in advance the best turn to take. But most planning is already mapping the route in strava.
@petje Garmin courses do the same thing. I have figured out a simple solution after being frustrated several times about it being further ahead in the run, simply restart the course in my case and let it pick up from where you are currently. It doesnt affect my run tracking on the Garmin. I assume you could do the same with RunGo but I havent used that app in years but it was pretty helpful when I did.
As someone that has mapped a lot of routes with A LOT of turns using a combo of Garmin routes on my watch and Strava route on my phone as a backup has been the most efficient way for me to make sure I get everything. Personally I always wear a really light hydration vest that I can pull my phone out of easily to take pics or check a route on the fly. Part of the fun for me doing mapping is documenting if I see cool stuff along the way.
Situation: Whenever I use watch to calculate a route either by entering GPS coordinates or choosing a location on the map, turn-by-turn prompts are full screen notifications that remove the map. For example, the attached image shows a route that I had the watch calculate. As I approach the intersection to turn right, the watch beeps, the maps disappear, and the full screen prompt of "Right on Residential" appears. I have to press the "down" button to make the prompt disappear and have the map reappear. The issue is that I used to be able to keep the map up the entire time and the watch would beep and give me the turn directions on the map itself. I've dug into the navigation & routing settings, but I can't seem to get the watch to route and alert me for turn-by-turn directions utilizing the map rather than full screen text notifications. Previously, the turn-by-turn on the map looked something like this: the watch would beep, the map would display the upcoming turn next to the distance remaining, as I approached the turn, the watch would continue to beep as the distance remaining decreased. At no point did the map ever disappear and a full text turn-by-turn notification appear--this is what I'm trying to stop from happening.
Issue: No matter what I do, I can't get the watch to give me turn-by-turn directions and alerts on the map itself like it had been doing just a couple of days ago. I'm not sure if I accidentally changed a setting and that's why it's changed. In any case, it is very difficult to navigate whenever the turn alerts remove the map from view.
It was just a very short route that had turn-by-turn prompts. Although you can see the end destination, the watch was still alerting me of upcoming turns. The screenshot I took of the text turn-by-turn notification was the turn-by-turn prompt for the turn you see on the map that has the white arrow. The 183ft shown on the map was 183ft until the right hand turn.
Hi! I am developing an app on flutter using osm flutter plugin, is there a way to get turn by turn navigation info along with time and distance remaining information ? could you please tell me where to look into in general ?
Pannam sorry to bother you. I noticed that you are using Garmin watch. I have tried to get OSM on my Tactix Bravo with a couple of apps without success. I like the watch it can mimic a firework display every few thousand steps which shows some ability, but i'd prefer a map. any suggestions. Thks Andy
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