Fwd: Youth & Young adults liturgy arrangements

[Sonny Poozhikala]

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From: Sonny Poozhikala <spo...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: Youth & Young adults liturgy arrangements
To: mathew abraham <math...@hotmail.com>

Where is KCCNA EC to make decisions affecting KCCNA? Or is the Bishop and the clergy now has taken over that role?

There are confusion and controversy regarding KYAA, and its composition, with the Executive Vice President claiming KYAA has provided written confirmation that they are a non-endogamous group. If there is truth in it, the Executive VP must produce that communication. If there is no such communication, please clarify that too.

We understand that KYAA is not sub-organization of KCCNA, nor they want to be one. However, there are many Knanaya young adults who participate in their activities believing that they adhere to the endogamous nature of the community. If that is not strictly followed, it is the responsibility of KCCNA leadership to enquire and ensure that KYAA adheres to the "by birth AND by deed" definition, and if not, warn the parents, young adults and the community.

  Hence it is very important that facts must be verified. Whether there is any written communication or not, because there is a controversy surrounding KYAA, KCCNA leadership needs to take appropriate actions to clarify the issue.

We all support KYAA in the belief that it also supports our community's endogamous identity. If there is any dilution to that, it won't be any different from KANA, and KCCNA should not have anything to do with them. On the other hand, if KYAA respects KCCNA constitution and supports our endogamous identity, we wholeheartedly support KYAA. During our administration, we elaborately enquired about the ideology under which KYAA is operating, and was convinced that at that time they also support and adhere to KCCNA's definition of a "knanaya".Suzanne Mazhuvanchery, an NC member then, was the main organizer, and we obtained a detailed report from her, as well as made a substantial inquiry by both then KCCNA General Secretary Pious Velupparambil and Treasurer Jose Edattukunnel. Based on this, we supported KYAA financially during our term, after determining that they are also an endogamous group.  Now, if there is any deviation from that under the new KYAA organizers, KCCNA should take that matter very seriously.

Apparently, KYAA is organizing the Manglish Syro Malabar mass (if you had the bad luck to hear this Manglish mass, you will recognize that it is an INSULT to Holy mass)  because the "bishop and achans requested it". Two things seem to be very strange in it, and alarming. First, KYAA, an entity representing young adults born and brought up in North America, is organizing a Manglish Syro Malabar mass. Secondly, The bishop and the priests are asking for a Manglish Syro Malabar mass, using North American born youngsters. One can see the game plan here.The question is have the organizers of KYAA taken into consideration what their constituency or members want. Do they want a Manglish Syro Malabar mass or an English Latin mass?

To my fellow KYAA comrades: Your masters are your constituency (members). Your responsibility is to respect and fulfill their wishes, not any outside forces' desires. If your intention is to serve the endogamy supporting young adults of North America, you will have the community's full support. On the other hand, if you want to be the weapons of some forces who are bent upon destroying our endogamous identity,  we, the community cannot support you. You asked for our financial contributions, and before we embrace any such support, you need to clarify your stand and declare your willingness to serve your constituency, and respect their wishes, instead of any outside forces.

This communication will also be shared in non-KCCNA email groups.

Sonny J. Poozhikala

KCCNA Ex-President

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:55 AM, mathew abraham <math...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Avarachen Chettan,

As a Convention Sub-Committee Chair, I am following constitutional guidelines for Convention sub-committee chairs and there is no violation or controversy.

Liturgy committee didn't come up with any agenda for youth, rather we fully support and assist them on their needs. KCCNA president indicated possibility of having an additional English SM mass for youth (in addition to Latin mass), youth representatives approached liturgy committee for help with mass and adoration. KCCNA president has confirmed this in his email. Youth Chairperson Philip Kandarapallil has already confirmed Marilynn's role, their interest in liturgical needs and that he is in close communication with youth liaison.

We respect EC's authority, any changes you make kindly communicate early enough so that we can go ahead with arrangements.

Sincerely,

Mathew Abraham,

Liturgy Chair

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Subject: Fwd: Youth & Young adults liturgy arrangements

 

Dear Mathew,

I wonder your committee's idea of having Syro-Malabar Mass on Thursday and Adoration on Sunday for youth and young Adults are discussed in and got the approval from Convention Committee at all?   Because based on the phone conversation with KCCNA President Baby Manakkunnel on Sunday July8th morning, we only have one Holy Mass for youth which is an English Latin Mass on Saturday.  So please stop any further planning with Syro-Malabar English Mass and Adoration until this matter is discussed in our KCCNA Executive

Also who appointed  Marilynn Pathyil as representatives Youth  Committee appointed by KCCNA Executive?  What is her role? Below shown is our Young Adult/Youth committee appointed by KCCNA Executive with Jake Illickal as Liaison.  

Mathew Valuchira, Chair Liturgy Committee, Philip Kandarappallil, chair person of the Youth Committee and Jake Illickal Liaison to both committees please report to KCCNA Executive with further clarifications

Philip Kandarappallil	404-992-9662		pt2...@gmail.com
Joel ManakkunnelÂ			joel...@gmail.com
Luke Thuruthuvelil	347-840-3374		luke...@gmail.com
Mathew Simon	678-448-2337		msim...@gmail.com
Philipson Janes	469-450-0706		philips...@gmail.com

Dear Mathew,

As a Convention Sub-Committee Chair, Following constitutional guidelines for Convention sub-committee chairs and Convention Chairman may help you or better assist you to conduct business without major controversies.

KCCNA CONVENTION 

Code of Conduct, roles, duties and responsibilities 

Convention Chairperson 

a) The role of the Convention Chairperson is that of coordinator of the Sub-Committee Chairs to facilitate smooth organizing of the convention. 

b) Reports to KCCNA Executive Committee (EC), KCCNA Officers (Officers) and KCCNA Convention Committee (CC) 

c) Implements CC decisions (which can only over-ruled by the EC and the KCCNA National Council (NC)) 

d) Liaisons between host association EC and KCCNA Officers/EC/CC 

e) Shall abide by the decisions of KCCNA Officers/EC/NC 

f) Convene and presides over meetings of sub-committee chairpersons 

g) Presides over KCCNA CC meetings 

h) Monitor progress of various committees and provide advice, if requested or warranted 

i) Submits progress reports and updates periodically to Officers, EC and CC as well as when requested by Officers, EC or CC 

j) Sub-Committee Chairpersons’ committee decisions are conducted democratically, on the basis of “one chairperson, one vote”. Convention Chairperson does not have the authority to over-rule committee decisions. 

k) Financial matters are primarily the responsibility of Finance Committee (FC). In order to ensure division of powers and checks and balances, as well, avoid conflict of interests, convention organization responsibilities and financial responsibilities will not be mixed, but kept separate. Convention Chair should ensure that all decisions involving financial commitments must have prior FC approval. FC can only be over-ruled by Officers or EC. 

l) Attends sub-committee functional committee meetings when requested or warranted 

m) The EC or NC may amend this Code of Conduct, roles, duties and responsibilities as warranted 

Appendix B 

KCCNA CONVENTION 

Code of Conduct, roles, duties and responsibilities 

Convention Sub-Committee Chairperson 

a) The role of the Sub-Committee Chairperson is that of coordinator of the Sub-Committee members to facilitate smooth organizing of the convention. 

b) Reports to KCCNA Liaison (who is member of KCCNA EC), host association EC and Convention Chairperson. Host association EC and Convention Chairperson are accountable to KCCNA Executive Committee (EC), KCCNA Officers (Officers) and KCCNA Convention Committee (CC) 

c) Implements CC decisions and directives, (which can be over-ruled or modified only by the EC and the KCCNA National Council (NC)) 

d) Liaisons between host association EC, sub-committee co-chairs/members and committee Liaison from KCCNA EC. 

e) Shall abide by the decisions and directives of KCCNA Liaison, host association EC, (which would be subject to KCCNA Officers/EC/NC review and approval) 

f) Convene and presides over meetings of sub-committee co-chairs/members 

g) Monitor progress of sub-committee preparedness and take corrective actions, if warranted 

h) Submits progress reports and updates periodically to host association EC, as well as Officers, EC or CC when requested 

i) Represents sub-committee in the Chairpersons’ meetings or convention related general meetings (or assign a co-chair or member to participate in such meetings in the absence of sub-committee chair) 

j) Sub-Committee decisions are conducted democratically, on the basis of “one member, one vote”. Sub-Committee Chairperson does not have the authority to over-rule sub-committee decisions. 

k) Financial matters are primarily the responsibility of Finance Committee (FC). In order to ensure division of powers and checks and balances, as well, avoid conflict of interests, convention organization responsibilities and financial responsibilities will not be mixed, but kept separate. Sub-Committee Chair should ensure that all decisions involving financial commitments must have prior FC approval. FC can only be over-ruled by Officers or EC. 

l) Each sub-committee will have a “KCCNA EC Liaison”. Sub-Committee chairperson shall provide reports periodically, or when requested, the EC Liaison. The sub-committee chairperson will provide a copy of such reports to the host association EC and Convention Chairperson. 

m) The EC & NC may amend this Code of Conduct, roles, duties and responsibilities as warranted 

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From: mathew abraham <math...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 8:40 PM
Subject: Youth & Young adults liturgy arrangements
To: Simon <loga...@gmail.com>, Jake Illickal <js6...@nyu.edu>, Philip Thomas <pt2...@gmail.com>
Cc: "cc2...@kccna.com" <cc2...@kccna.com>, "adupa...@yahoo.com" <adupa...@yahoo.com>, Saji Paranickal <sajpj...@aol.com>, "abra...@gmail.com" <abra...@gmail.com>

Dear KCCNA executives & Convention committee,

This email is copied to Youth Committee, Rev Fr. Boban Vattampurath & liturgy team for information.

I have been in touch with youth Liaison & Chairperson and had a discussion in detail with their representative Marilynn Pathyil about liturgical arrangements for youth and young adults. Below you will find the details. This has already been discussed with facilities chair Jimmy Vellapally.

Jake Illikal & Philip Thomas Kandarapallil, please confirm we are all on the same page.

Simon Illikattil, please make sure/confirm below are added to event schedule. This has been discussed and confirmed with facilities chair Jimmy Vellapally.

1. Thursday July 19th 7:00PM to 8:00PM, English Syro-Malabar mass for Youth and Young Adults, venue Mar. Kunnacherry Nagar/OMNI Grand Ball Room @ M4

For this liturgy committee will support them with all arrangements, youth has discussed this with Rev. priests Fr. Boban Vattampurath &  Fr. Renny Kattel. Youth has arrangements for hospitality, ushers, altar servers & choir.

2. Saturday July 20th 6.00pm English Latin Mass for Youth and Young Adults, venue Mar. Kunnacherry Nagar/OMNI Grand Ball Room @ M4.

Liturgy committee will support them with all arrangements, youth has discussed this with Rev. priests Fr. Boban Vattampurath & Fr. Renny Kattel. Youth has arrangements for hospitality, ushers, altar servers & choir.

3. Sunday July 21, 2.30pm to 3.30pm Adoration for Youth and Young Adults, venue International Ball Room Section A @ M2

Sincerely,

Mathew Abraham,

Liturgy Chair

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Very Sincerely,

Abraham Joseph  

General Secretary

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