King's Speech I: Due Friday, April 13
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Mr. Simon
Apr 12, 2012, 6:30:09 AM4/12/12
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This post will focus on the TRAIT APPROACH to personality assessment
and development.
Select 1 character from the list below. (If more than 5 people have
responded to one character thread, MOVE ON, pick another character!)
~Bertie
~Elizabeth
~Lionel Logue
~George V
~(David) Edward
Then, answer all of the following questions. If someone has already
answered on the character you wanted, post either an addition to
their
answers OR a disagreement/point of contention. IN YOUR REPLY, POST
THE CHARACTER'S NAME.
1) Where on Eysenck's classification would this person fall? Cite
three examples from the film that demonstrate this classification.
2) Does this character lend himself to one or more of Eysenck's
traits, OR does he or she respond more toward situationalism?
Provide
at least 2 examples to support your analysis.
3) How would you characterize this character's temperament? Is it
innate, or do you think he or she builds this temperament from
environmental factors?
and development.
Select 1 character from the list below. (If more than 5 people have
responded to one character thread, MOVE ON, pick another character!)
~Bertie
~Elizabeth
~Lionel Logue
~George V
~(David) Edward
Then, answer all of the following questions. If someone has already
answered on the character you wanted, post either an addition to
their
answers OR a disagreement/point of contention. IN YOUR REPLY, POST
THE CHARACTER'S NAME.
1) Where on Eysenck's classification would this person fall? Cite
three examples from the film that demonstrate this classification.
2) Does this character lend himself to one or more of Eysenck's
traits, OR does he or she respond more toward situationalism?
Provide
at least 2 examples to support your analysis.
3) How would you characterize this character's temperament? Is it
innate, or do you think he or she builds this temperament from
environmental factors?
Maica
Apr 12, 2012, 10:22:42 AM4/12/12
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BERTIE
1) Bertie would be classified as Introverted-Neurotic. In the first
scene where Bertie must make a public speech he has trouble speaking
and looks nervously around for help. In the scene where Bertie first
meets Lionel he is resistant to treatment and unwilling to be friendly
and informal. In the scene where Bertie and his wife enter the party
the rest of the guests are laughing and having a good time but he is
in formal dress and addresses Mrs. Simpson formally.
2) He lends himself to many of Eysenck's Introverted-Neurotic traits.
Bertie is pessimistic because when he first begins work with Lionel he
believes his impediment cannot be helped. Bertie is moody because he
gets easily frustrated and when frustrated he often has outbursts of
swearing. Bertie is reserved because he refuses to talk about his
personal family matters when Lionel first asks.
3) I think Bertie's temperament was built from external factors. He
said that his speech impediment started when he was 4-5 years old and
also mentioned physical revisions his family insisted on making
(straightening his legs and making him a righty). Also in the one
scene where Bertie interacts with his father it is plain to see that
his father puts a lot of pressure on Bertie and never seems to praise
him for his good traits. I believe Bertie's defensive and introverted
temperament has developed in response to these factors.
1) Bertie would be classified as Introverted-Neurotic. In the first
scene where Bertie must make a public speech he has trouble speaking
and looks nervously around for help. In the scene where Bertie first
meets Lionel he is resistant to treatment and unwilling to be friendly
and informal. In the scene where Bertie and his wife enter the party
the rest of the guests are laughing and having a good time but he is
in formal dress and addresses Mrs. Simpson formally.
2) He lends himself to many of Eysenck's Introverted-Neurotic traits.
Bertie is pessimistic because when he first begins work with Lionel he
believes his impediment cannot be helped. Bertie is moody because he
gets easily frustrated and when frustrated he often has outbursts of
swearing. Bertie is reserved because he refuses to talk about his
personal family matters when Lionel first asks.
3) I think Bertie's temperament was built from external factors. He
said that his speech impediment started when he was 4-5 years old and
also mentioned physical revisions his family insisted on making
(straightening his legs and making him a righty). Also in the one
scene where Bertie interacts with his father it is plain to see that
his father puts a lot of pressure on Bertie and never seems to praise
him for his good traits. I believe Bertie's defensive and introverted
temperament has developed in response to these factors.
Tess Harrington
Apr 12, 2012, 11:25:02 AM4/12/12
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Lionel Logue:
1. I would classify Lionel as an Extraverted-Stable, particularly
because he shows characteristic traits as being sociable, outgoing,
talkative, and lively. Lionel seems to be very outgoing with Bertie in
attempt to ease the tension, such as wagering a shilling with Bertie.
Lionel also displays his sociable and talkative demeanor, such as
making jokes with Bertie, like saying, "I haven't agreed to take you
on" in response to Bertie saying "If there is a next time." Finally,
Lionel displays his confidence and leadership ability when talking to
Elizabeth; in response to her observation that his techniques are
controversial, Lionel agrees but adds that his techniques are always
successful.
2. As displayed above, Lionel lends himself to Eysenck's traits, as
opposed to responding to situationalism. It is clear that Lionel is
not simply responding to a situation because he shows more or less of
the same traits when he is with his family as with Elizabeth and
Bertie. As shown above, Lionel is outgoing, sociable, and lively with
Bertie and Elizabeth. Lionel shows the same traits with his family,
like saying to his son, "You must stay, bored stupid, listening to
your parents' inane conversation." Clearly, Lionel is just as lively
and outgoing with his family as he is with Bertie. Finally, Lionel
shows that he is easygoing again, in the scene when he is at home,
describing his situation with Bertie to his wife.
3. Although very little information is given regarding Lionel's
backround, I believe that Lionel's temperament is innate, as opposed
to being from environmental factors. The audience learns that Lionel's
father was a brewer and that he was not there for his father's death.
Yet reflecting upon this, Lionel's temperament doesn't change; he
still remains outgoing and positive, like when he says, "At least
there was free beer." I agree with Miaca that Bertie's temperament was
built from external factors, which enhances the contrast between
Bertie and Lionel once again, displaying that Lionel's temperament is
innate.
1. I would classify Lionel as an Extraverted-Stable, particularly
because he shows characteristic traits as being sociable, outgoing,
talkative, and lively. Lionel seems to be very outgoing with Bertie in
attempt to ease the tension, such as wagering a shilling with Bertie.
Lionel also displays his sociable and talkative demeanor, such as
making jokes with Bertie, like saying, "I haven't agreed to take you
on" in response to Bertie saying "If there is a next time." Finally,
Lionel displays his confidence and leadership ability when talking to
Elizabeth; in response to her observation that his techniques are
controversial, Lionel agrees but adds that his techniques are always
successful.
2. As displayed above, Lionel lends himself to Eysenck's traits, as
opposed to responding to situationalism. It is clear that Lionel is
not simply responding to a situation because he shows more or less of
the same traits when he is with his family as with Elizabeth and
Bertie. As shown above, Lionel is outgoing, sociable, and lively with
Bertie and Elizabeth. Lionel shows the same traits with his family,
like saying to his son, "You must stay, bored stupid, listening to
your parents' inane conversation." Clearly, Lionel is just as lively
and outgoing with his family as he is with Bertie. Finally, Lionel
shows that he is easygoing again, in the scene when he is at home,
describing his situation with Bertie to his wife.
3. Although very little information is given regarding Lionel's
backround, I believe that Lionel's temperament is innate, as opposed
to being from environmental factors. The audience learns that Lionel's
father was a brewer and that he was not there for his father's death.
Yet reflecting upon this, Lionel's temperament doesn't change; he
still remains outgoing and positive, like when he says, "At least
there was free beer." I agree with Miaca that Bertie's temperament was
built from external factors, which enhances the contrast between
Bertie and Lionel once again, displaying that Lionel's temperament is
innate.
Justin Chow
Apr 12, 2012, 11:38:00 AM4/12/12
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Elizabeth
1) Elizabeth would fall under the Introverted-Stable personality type.
In the first scene, she is seen comforting her husband in a calm and
peaceful manner. Secondly, in the scene where she goes to seek out
Lionel, she remains calm when he rejects her the first time. Finally,
after Lionel and Bertie have their first lesson, Bertie leaves very
frustrated, but Elizabeth stays calm and collected, patting him on the
shoulder for comfort.
2) Elizabeth does follow more than one of Eysenck’s personality types.
She shows she is calm and thoughtful by comforting Bertie. She is also
reliable because she finally found a doctor who might be able to fix
Bertie’s stammer. She is also even-tempered and controlled because she
doesn’t freak out when Bertie has those awkward pauses in the middle
of his speeches.
3) Elizabeth’s temperament is based on environmental factors. The
viewers do not know a lot about her personal life in the past, so we
only know she is the Duchess of York. Women of high power tend to be
well mannered and because the time period is the early 1900’s, women
were not as highly respected as men. Based on her environment,
Elizabeth developed a certain temperament to conform to society. She
is well mannered, takes care of her husband, and fits mostly all of
the traits of an introverted-stable personality.
Maggie Renner
Apr 12, 2012, 2:12:13 PM4/12/12
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Bertie
1. In the beginning of the film, Bertie comes across as introverted-
neurotic. This is seen from his inability to speak in front of the
large crowd in the opening scene, when his stutter takes over him.
However, I think that Bertie can be characterized as two people, which
are Duke of York and just Bertie. Duke of York is introverted-
neurotic, however, just Bertie seems to be more extroverted-stable. As
seen with his daughters when telling them a story, Bertie is animated
and captures the little girls’ attention, and the focus is not on his
stutter. When around his family, Bertie is who he really is which is
extroverted-stable. Through his lessons with Lionel, Bertie also seems
to be breaking away from “Duke of York” to just Bertie, which stresses
the importance of Lionel insisting that he be called Bertie during
sessions. His extroverted-stable nature is seen through his
playfulness when in session with Lionel, especially when Lionel
directs Bertie to use every swear he knows, Bertie seems to break free
of his title of Duke and embraces his actual personality as Bertie.
2. Bertie seems to be more situational, simply because he has two main
identities. If he is in a situation where his “Duke of York” identity
is prominent, he has certain personality traits, however his
personality is different when he is around his family and around
Lionel and is referred to as Bertie. Bertie being extroverted-stable,
follows some characteristics presented by Eysencks such as lively,
outgoing, and sociable. These characteristics are seen as the sessions
progress with Lionel and Lionel begins to gain Bertie’s trust, and
they are also seen in interactions between Bertie and his wife, such
as their loving interactions in the car to Mrs. Simpson’s house. On
the contrary, in terms of Duke of York, he also follows several of the
traits presented for introverted-neurotic, which are presented by
Eysenck, such as moody, which is seen when the Duke of York first
meets Lionel, and he is not yet just Bertie. His moodiness is always
attributed to his stutter, which is seen as very frustrating to
Bertie.
3. Bertie’s temperament seems to be innate. His loving, outgoing
nature with his wife and his two daughters does not seem to be learned
behavior. He is caring and nurturing around them seen in several
interactions between Bertie and his family, such as when Bertie and
his wife are with their two girls before bedtime. As Bertie grows to
trust Lionel, he seems to transform from Duke of York to Bertie as
seen through his joyful nature during later sessions, and outgoing
nature towards Lionel. In contrast, the Duke of York’s temperament
seems to have been determined/shaped from outside factors. In one
session with Lionel, the Duke of York’s temperament is stripped down
by his past. He had a brother die at a young age, he was abused by a
nanny, and his stutter has continuously held him back. All of these
factors contributed to the Duke of York’s temperament, which were
unable to be controlled by him. Bertie and the Duke of York even
though they are essentially the same person, show many differences in
temperament. It is seen in the film, when Bertie is around both Lionel
and his family, his stutter is greatly weakened, which enhances the
difference between Bertie and the Duke of York. In sessions with
Lionel and around his close family, Bertie is not as inhibited by his
stutter as he is when he is the Duke of York.
1. In the beginning of the film, Bertie comes across as introverted-
neurotic. This is seen from his inability to speak in front of the
large crowd in the opening scene, when his stutter takes over him.
However, I think that Bertie can be characterized as two people, which
are Duke of York and just Bertie. Duke of York is introverted-
neurotic, however, just Bertie seems to be more extroverted-stable. As
seen with his daughters when telling them a story, Bertie is animated
and captures the little girls’ attention, and the focus is not on his
stutter. When around his family, Bertie is who he really is which is
extroverted-stable. Through his lessons with Lionel, Bertie also seems
to be breaking away from “Duke of York” to just Bertie, which stresses
the importance of Lionel insisting that he be called Bertie during
sessions. His extroverted-stable nature is seen through his
playfulness when in session with Lionel, especially when Lionel
directs Bertie to use every swear he knows, Bertie seems to break free
of his title of Duke and embraces his actual personality as Bertie.
2. Bertie seems to be more situational, simply because he has two main
identities. If he is in a situation where his “Duke of York” identity
is prominent, he has certain personality traits, however his
personality is different when he is around his family and around
Lionel and is referred to as Bertie. Bertie being extroverted-stable,
follows some characteristics presented by Eysencks such as lively,
outgoing, and sociable. These characteristics are seen as the sessions
progress with Lionel and Lionel begins to gain Bertie’s trust, and
they are also seen in interactions between Bertie and his wife, such
as their loving interactions in the car to Mrs. Simpson’s house. On
the contrary, in terms of Duke of York, he also follows several of the
traits presented for introverted-neurotic, which are presented by
Eysenck, such as moody, which is seen when the Duke of York first
meets Lionel, and he is not yet just Bertie. His moodiness is always
attributed to his stutter, which is seen as very frustrating to
Bertie.
3. Bertie’s temperament seems to be innate. His loving, outgoing
nature with his wife and his two daughters does not seem to be learned
behavior. He is caring and nurturing around them seen in several
interactions between Bertie and his family, such as when Bertie and
his wife are with their two girls before bedtime. As Bertie grows to
trust Lionel, he seems to transform from Duke of York to Bertie as
seen through his joyful nature during later sessions, and outgoing
nature towards Lionel. In contrast, the Duke of York’s temperament
seems to have been determined/shaped from outside factors. In one
session with Lionel, the Duke of York’s temperament is stripped down
by his past. He had a brother die at a young age, he was abused by a
nanny, and his stutter has continuously held him back. All of these
factors contributed to the Duke of York’s temperament, which were
unable to be controlled by him. Bertie and the Duke of York even
though they are essentially the same person, show many differences in
temperament. It is seen in the film, when Bertie is around both Lionel
and his family, his stutter is greatly weakened, which enhances the
difference between Bertie and the Duke of York. In sessions with
Lionel and around his close family, Bertie is not as inhibited by his
stutter as he is when he is the Duke of York.
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Emily Weinstein
Apr 12, 2012, 3:58:17 PM4/12/12
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Lionel Logue
1. I agree with Tess that I would classify Lionel Logue as Extraverted-
Stable because he seems to be very lively, sociable, talkative, and
responsive. His job requires him to take the role as leader and
provide a safe and comfortable environment where his patients are
willing to open up. Lionel’s personality can be seen when he asserts
himself when Elizabeth (or Mrs. Johnson) first comes to see him and
ask him to treat her husband. Lionel is sociable and outgoing; he is
confident in his abilities and he has no problem talking to new
people. However, I would also say that at times Lionel possesses some
qualities of Introverted-Stable. Lionel is very reliable and
controlled. For example, he does not lose his temper or give up when
Bertie refuses to answer his questions or open up about his past. When
Bertie refuses to sing, Lionel does not force him into it, instead he
remains calm and understanding. Additionally, when Bertie begins to
open up about his past, Lionel is very understanding and thoughtful.
He is also careful about what he says and how he says it so as not to
upset Bertie or cause him to stop talking.
2. Lionel Logue lends himself to more than one of Eysenck’s traits. He
cannot be easily classified by only one trait, in fact, I think he
could be classified by around 15 different traits. However, Lionel
does not respond toward situationalism. When Lionel finds out that
Mrs. Johnson is actually Elizabeth, he does not act differently than
how he did before he knew. He still tells her that she must play by
his rules and there are no exceptions. It would be easy for him to
suddenly change his demeanor knowing that he is in the presence of
royalty, but Lionel stands firm in the way he acts. Also, when Bertie
comes to see him, Lionel acts the same way that he acted towards
Elizabeth. Even when Bertie acts stubborn and unwilling to cooperate,
which is in contrast to Elizabeth who was very open to the idea of
having Lionel treat her husband, Lionel does not act any differently.
He makes the same jokes and even tells Bertie “My castle, my rules”.
3. I would also characterize Lionel’s temperament as innate. He seems
to be a genuinely kind and good-natured person who has a passion for
helping people in need. He is very calm and collected, even when
Bertie frustrates him. I think that this patience could definitely
have been acquired after dealing with many difficult patients,
however, I think that Lionel’s overall temperament stemmed from his
innate personality. Additionally, it seems that Lionel’s children and
wife are very even-tempered people. This lends me to believe that
Lionel chose a wife with a similar temperament as himself, and he
raised children to be calm and respectful as well.
1. I agree with Tess that I would classify Lionel Logue as Extraverted-
Stable because he seems to be very lively, sociable, talkative, and
responsive. His job requires him to take the role as leader and
provide a safe and comfortable environment where his patients are
willing to open up. Lionel’s personality can be seen when he asserts
himself when Elizabeth (or Mrs. Johnson) first comes to see him and
ask him to treat her husband. Lionel is sociable and outgoing; he is
confident in his abilities and he has no problem talking to new
people. However, I would also say that at times Lionel possesses some
qualities of Introverted-Stable. Lionel is very reliable and
controlled. For example, he does not lose his temper or give up when
Bertie refuses to answer his questions or open up about his past. When
Bertie refuses to sing, Lionel does not force him into it, instead he
remains calm and understanding. Additionally, when Bertie begins to
open up about his past, Lionel is very understanding and thoughtful.
He is also careful about what he says and how he says it so as not to
upset Bertie or cause him to stop talking.
2. Lionel Logue lends himself to more than one of Eysenck’s traits. He
cannot be easily classified by only one trait, in fact, I think he
could be classified by around 15 different traits. However, Lionel
does not respond toward situationalism. When Lionel finds out that
Mrs. Johnson is actually Elizabeth, he does not act differently than
how he did before he knew. He still tells her that she must play by
his rules and there are no exceptions. It would be easy for him to
suddenly change his demeanor knowing that he is in the presence of
royalty, but Lionel stands firm in the way he acts. Also, when Bertie
comes to see him, Lionel acts the same way that he acted towards
Elizabeth. Even when Bertie acts stubborn and unwilling to cooperate,
which is in contrast to Elizabeth who was very open to the idea of
having Lionel treat her husband, Lionel does not act any differently.
He makes the same jokes and even tells Bertie “My castle, my rules”.
3. I would also characterize Lionel’s temperament as innate. He seems
to be a genuinely kind and good-natured person who has a passion for
helping people in need. He is very calm and collected, even when
Bertie frustrates him. I think that this patience could definitely
have been acquired after dealing with many difficult patients,
however, I think that Lionel’s overall temperament stemmed from his
innate personality. Additionally, it seems that Lionel’s children and
wife are very even-tempered people. This lends me to believe that
Lionel chose a wife with a similar temperament as himself, and he
raised children to be calm and respectful as well.
katestewart
Apr 12, 2012, 4:27:42 PM4/12/12
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GEORGE V
1) King George V seems to fall into Eysenck's Extroverted-Neurotic
classification. This is demonstrated in the film through his use of
fear and intimidation. This aggression can be observed within his
family when he says that his sons will be afraid of him, consistent
with George's relationship with his father. He is also active
politically and outgoing, as he is the king of England. Additionally,
he is changeable, sometimes showing anger and frustration towards
Bertie and his speech impediment, but later showing love and faith in
Bertie's courage and decision-making.
2) George lends himself towards situationalism. This can be seen
through his radically different dispositions towards Bertie. At times
he outwardly shows affection (agreeableness), and other times pure
frustration. He also demonstrates situationalism between emotional
stability and instability. Hitler and the war in Europe is making him
anxious, but being a public figure, he can also demonstrate much
composure and calm. His wife also comments that he would not tolerate
a dinner conversation to be uninteresting or heavy, hinting that he
was talkative and fun-loving, characteristics of an Extrovert.
3) I would characterize George V's temperament as built from
environmental factors. Being a first-born son and the first in line to
the throne, George must have grown up with many requirements,
expectations, and responsibilities. He says that he feared his father,
maybe contributing to his own harsh personality that he brings out
with his sons. Furthermore, with the pressure of being a prince and
then a king, George would have been encouraged and somewhat obligated
to be extroverted in his public position. The high stress associated
with his "occupation" may have also impacted his neurotic nature.
Contrastingly, watched with the eye of the nation, George V may have
felt pressure to uphold a serious or emotionally stable personality,
ultimately leading to his demonstration of situationalism.
1) King George V seems to fall into Eysenck's Extroverted-Neurotic
classification. This is demonstrated in the film through his use of
fear and intimidation. This aggression can be observed within his
family when he says that his sons will be afraid of him, consistent
with George's relationship with his father. He is also active
politically and outgoing, as he is the king of England. Additionally,
he is changeable, sometimes showing anger and frustration towards
Bertie and his speech impediment, but later showing love and faith in
Bertie's courage and decision-making.
2) George lends himself towards situationalism. This can be seen
through his radically different dispositions towards Bertie. At times
he outwardly shows affection (agreeableness), and other times pure
frustration. He also demonstrates situationalism between emotional
stability and instability. Hitler and the war in Europe is making him
anxious, but being a public figure, he can also demonstrate much
composure and calm. His wife also comments that he would not tolerate
a dinner conversation to be uninteresting or heavy, hinting that he
was talkative and fun-loving, characteristics of an Extrovert.
3) I would characterize George V's temperament as built from
environmental factors. Being a first-born son and the first in line to
the throne, George must have grown up with many requirements,
expectations, and responsibilities. He says that he feared his father,
maybe contributing to his own harsh personality that he brings out
with his sons. Furthermore, with the pressure of being a prince and
then a king, George would have been encouraged and somewhat obligated
to be extroverted in his public position. The high stress associated
with his "occupation" may have also impacted his neurotic nature.
Contrastingly, watched with the eye of the nation, George V may have
felt pressure to uphold a serious or emotionally stable personality,
ultimately leading to his demonstration of situationalism.
Lucy
Apr 12, 2012, 4:44:35 PM4/12/12
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1. Although Bertie can easily be classified as introverted-neurotic,
his moments of aggression would also allow an extroverted-neurotic
classification. Bertie is distinctly rigid, in his tendency to uphold
formalities, including with Lionel initially, and extremely
pessimistic, convinced that “no one can fix it” in reference to his
stammer. However, in moments of frustration and anger, he lashes out,
instead of withdrawing, as typical of the introverted personality.
When the first doctor attempts to treat him with marbles, Bertie
explodes in anger, storming out of the room. His moods and tendencies
shift rapidly, from cursing at Lionel during the reading/recording
session, to courteously thanking him for his help and excusing himself
moments later. (another hallmark of an extroverted neurotic.)
2. While he is consistently anxious, moody, and conflicted, Bertie
does have moments of stability, when with his children, and later, in
sessions with Lionel. Therefore, it would seem that most of Bertie’s
behaviors can be situationally attributed. While he has a fairly
consistent pessimistic attitude towards his stammer, this negativity
is revealed as a pleasant, dry wit in non-stressful settings. In his
first meeting with Lionel, when asked to begin speaking, Bertie says,
with a smirk, “timing isn’t my strong suit.” That he is able to find
humor in one of his greatest difficulties contrasts his neurotic
tendencies, and suggests that his anxiety may be a product of his
extreme circumstance. When considering his reaction to his brother’s
party, it is clear that Bertie would, under normal circumstances, be
classified an extrovert. While he is comfortable and funny when with
his daughters, wife, and, later, Lionel, he does not enjoy the company
of those with whom he has not already forged a connection. Therefore,
the aggression that would be attributed to an extroverted-neurotic
classification must be reconsidered, as most likely very out of
character, and an effect of extreme frustration that defies natural
tendencies.
3. Bertie’s temperament is both innate and environmentally driven. It
is impossible to know whether, without the stammer, Bertie would have
been a naturally withdrawn personality. His humor, warmth, and calm
with his children indicate he may have been a more extroverted, stable
individual without the stammer. However, his distaste for his
brother’s party seemed unrelated to his condition. His rigidity, and
tendency towards formality (including his initial unwillingness to
swear at Lionel’s urging) indicate, again, a naturally introverted
personality, possibly falling under neurotic, but his pessimism,
moodiness, tendency to lash out, and anxiety are all justified by the
pressure which he is under currently, as well as the authoritative
parenting, lack of emotional intimacy, and the mistreatment by his own
brother. He has been taught to distrust people; therefore, his
introversion can be seen as caution, and his neuroticism as prompted
by childhood and current stressors.
his moments of aggression would also allow an extroverted-neurotic
classification. Bertie is distinctly rigid, in his tendency to uphold
formalities, including with Lionel initially, and extremely
pessimistic, convinced that “no one can fix it” in reference to his
stammer. However, in moments of frustration and anger, he lashes out,
instead of withdrawing, as typical of the introverted personality.
When the first doctor attempts to treat him with marbles, Bertie
explodes in anger, storming out of the room. His moods and tendencies
shift rapidly, from cursing at Lionel during the reading/recording
session, to courteously thanking him for his help and excusing himself
moments later. (another hallmark of an extroverted neurotic.)
2. While he is consistently anxious, moody, and conflicted, Bertie
does have moments of stability, when with his children, and later, in
sessions with Lionel. Therefore, it would seem that most of Bertie’s
behaviors can be situationally attributed. While he has a fairly
consistent pessimistic attitude towards his stammer, this negativity
is revealed as a pleasant, dry wit in non-stressful settings. In his
first meeting with Lionel, when asked to begin speaking, Bertie says,
with a smirk, “timing isn’t my strong suit.” That he is able to find
humor in one of his greatest difficulties contrasts his neurotic
tendencies, and suggests that his anxiety may be a product of his
extreme circumstance. When considering his reaction to his brother’s
party, it is clear that Bertie would, under normal circumstances, be
classified an extrovert. While he is comfortable and funny when with
his daughters, wife, and, later, Lionel, he does not enjoy the company
of those with whom he has not already forged a connection. Therefore,
the aggression that would be attributed to an extroverted-neurotic
classification must be reconsidered, as most likely very out of
character, and an effect of extreme frustration that defies natural
tendencies.
3. Bertie’s temperament is both innate and environmentally driven. It
is impossible to know whether, without the stammer, Bertie would have
been a naturally withdrawn personality. His humor, warmth, and calm
with his children indicate he may have been a more extroverted, stable
individual without the stammer. However, his distaste for his
brother’s party seemed unrelated to his condition. His rigidity, and
tendency towards formality (including his initial unwillingness to
swear at Lionel’s urging) indicate, again, a naturally introverted
personality, possibly falling under neurotic, but his pessimism,
moodiness, tendency to lash out, and anxiety are all justified by the
pressure which he is under currently, as well as the authoritative
parenting, lack of emotional intimacy, and the mistreatment by his own
brother. He has been taught to distrust people; therefore, his
introversion can be seen as caution, and his neuroticism as prompted
by childhood and current stressors.
Marina Guigli
Apr 12, 2012, 8:27:54 PM4/12/12
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Elizabeth
1. I agree with Justin and would classify Elizabeth as Introverted-
Stable. Elizabeth is thoughtful and cares for her husband through
introducing Bertie to several therapists. Although not all of them
work out, Elizabeth keeps searching because she cares for her husband.
In another scene, Bertie and Elizabeth go to Bertie’s brother’s house
to meet his mistress. Elizabeth is very passive towards Bertie’s
brother’s mistress by acknowledging she is upset but not showing it
during the party. Lastly, Elizabeth is peaceful and controlled when
she arrives at Lionel’s office for the first time. Elizabeth does not
flaunt her royalty and she remains controlled and acts like any other
citizen in search of a therapist.
2. Yes, Elizabeth lends herself to more than one of Eysenck’s traits.
Elizabeth is reliable because Bertie can depend on her for finding him
a speech therapist as well as taking care of their children and making
sure they go to bed on time. Elizabeth is also calm because she does
not overreact to Bertie’s problem unlike his brother and other speech
therapists. Elizabeth is peaceful because she does not use her royalty
to get what she wants. She is also careful and knows when she is about
to be exposed to an uncomfortable situation such as meeting Bertie’s
mistress at Bertie’s brother’s party.
3. Elizabeth’s temperament is innate. Because Bertie developed his
speech problem around the age of five years old, it is likely
Elizabeth met Bertie while he had is speech problem. Elizabeth
probably demonstrated many of the Introverted –Stable characteristics
such as caring as well as being thoughtful and reliable when she met
Bertie. I am sure Bertie married Elizabeth because of these qualities
which are very opposite from the ones of his brothers and other family
members.
1. I agree with Justin and would classify Elizabeth as Introverted-
Stable. Elizabeth is thoughtful and cares for her husband through
introducing Bertie to several therapists. Although not all of them
work out, Elizabeth keeps searching because she cares for her husband.
In another scene, Bertie and Elizabeth go to Bertie’s brother’s house
to meet his mistress. Elizabeth is very passive towards Bertie’s
brother’s mistress by acknowledging she is upset but not showing it
during the party. Lastly, Elizabeth is peaceful and controlled when
she arrives at Lionel’s office for the first time. Elizabeth does not
flaunt her royalty and she remains controlled and acts like any other
citizen in search of a therapist.
2. Yes, Elizabeth lends herself to more than one of Eysenck’s traits.
Elizabeth is reliable because Bertie can depend on her for finding him
a speech therapist as well as taking care of their children and making
sure they go to bed on time. Elizabeth is also calm because she does
not overreact to Bertie’s problem unlike his brother and other speech
therapists. Elizabeth is peaceful because she does not use her royalty
to get what she wants. She is also careful and knows when she is about
to be exposed to an uncomfortable situation such as meeting Bertie’s
mistress at Bertie’s brother’s party.
3. Elizabeth’s temperament is innate. Because Bertie developed his
speech problem around the age of five years old, it is likely
Elizabeth met Bertie while he had is speech problem. Elizabeth
probably demonstrated many of the Introverted –Stable characteristics
such as caring as well as being thoughtful and reliable when she met
Bertie. I am sure Bertie married Elizabeth because of these qualities
which are very opposite from the ones of his brothers and other family
members.
Lisa Hsieh
Apr 12, 2012, 9:12:03 PM4/12/12
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Edward
1) I agree with Michael on how Edward would be classified as
Extraverted-Neurotic. First, Edward is very active, flying on
airplanes and offering to drive when the audience first meets him.
Furthermore, he exhibits impulsiveness when Bertie calls him to dinner
and to find a way out of it he literally decides to turn back the
hands of a nearby clock to justify his tardiness. Later, When Bertie
later confronts him in the cellar at Wallis Simpson’s party, Edward
shows himself to be touchy when his demeanor transitions from pleasant
to hostile, abruptly becoming disagreeable and maliciously teasing
Bertie on his stuttering after he voices his disapproval of Edward’s
relationship with Wallis.
2) Edward does respond more toward situationalism. While on the phone
with Wallis, he is excited and even agreeable. Once he finishes the
call with Wallis and Bertie talks to him, however, he sulks and barely
responds. Additionally, Edward demonstrates that he can be patient and
considerate to an extent when he listens to the (former) King George’s
delirious speech quietly, but his attitude is different when he is
named King; he immediately bursts into tears, rudely and
inconsiderately rushing outside after the salutation in order to
grieve for his personal woes.
3) I disagree with previous points made for Edward in that I believe
that his temperament is at least partially innate.
While dining at the dinner table, Archbishop Cosmo Lang leans over and
tries to win Edward’s favor, saying: “You know Sir, I appreciate that
you are different from your father in your outlook and temperament. I
want you to know that whenever the King questioned your conduct, I
tried in your interest to present it in a most favorable light.” This
suggests that Edward already had an unstable, impulsive personality –
unlike his father – that may have predisposed him to have a fiery
temperament.
Michael Rolincik
Apr 12, 2012, 9:15:57 PM4/12/12
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Edward
1) Edward would be classified as Extraverted-Neurotic. He decides to
persue a relationship with Wallis Simpson, who is a twice married
American woman. When he is with his brother at the party, Edward
makes fun of his speech impetiment in an aggressive way. Also at the
party, Edward moves around very quickly and doesn't seem like he
likes
to stay still.
2) Edward responds more toward situationalism. After his father
died,
Edward told his mother that he would try to be as good a king as his
father was, even though we know he didn't want to be king. With his
family, Edward is much more reserved, but with Wallis, he is outgoing
and energetic.
3) I believe that Edward acquires his temperament from his
environment. Bertie said that his brother was encouraged when he
would make fun of Bertie, so this attention might have contributed to
aggressive behavior. Also, growing up in a royal family and being
next in line to be king put immense pressure on Edward to live up to
his father's legacy, even though Edward didn't want to be king. This
might have contributed to his restless behavior because he said that
he was "trapped."
1) Edward would be classified as Extraverted-Neurotic. He decides to
persue a relationship with Wallis Simpson, who is a twice married
American woman. When he is with his brother at the party, Edward
makes fun of his speech impetiment in an aggressive way. Also at the
party, Edward moves around very quickly and doesn't seem like he
likes
to stay still.
2) Edward responds more toward situationalism. After his father
died,
Edward told his mother that he would try to be as good a king as his
father was, even though we know he didn't want to be king. With his
family, Edward is much more reserved, but with Wallis, he is outgoing
and energetic.
3) I believe that Edward acquires his temperament from his
environment. Bertie said that his brother was encouraged when he
would make fun of Bertie, so this attention might have contributed to
aggressive behavior. Also, growing up in a royal family and being
next in line to be king put immense pressure on Edward to live up to
his father's legacy, even though Edward didn't want to be king. This
might have contributed to his restless behavior because he said that
he was "trapped."
emdo...@yahoo.com
Apr 12, 2012, 10:22:18 PM4/12/12
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BERTIE:
1. Bertie would fall under the introverted-neurotic category of
Eysenck's Personality Types. Bertie first shows signs of having this
personality type at the beginning, when he is forced to give a speech
on the radio, in front of a crowd of people. He appears very anxious
before and during the speech (or what he give of it). Later, when he
first meets with Lionel, he shows signs of this personality type in
his pessimism about his ability to improve. He went into the session
believing that his case was hopeless, and therefore became blind to
his sudden improvement after reciting the Shakespeare soliloquy while
listening to music. In the same scene, Bertie is also very moody, as
he snaps at Lionel when he tries to create a more personal bond.
2. Bertie shows many traits of the introverted-neurotic type, in
addition to those stated above. When he first meets Lionel, Bertie is
reluctant to talk about personal matters, or even interact using first
names, demonstrating a high level of reserve. Also, that it takes
Lionel quite a while to begin to form a more personal link to Bertie,
shows that he is very rigid, and it is very difficult to persuade him
to do something he is not used to, such as Lionel's unorthodox
methods. Lastly, Bertie's austere behavior towards Ms. Simpson and her
guests at the party shows his unsociable side, and that only the
people very close to him, like his wife, can break that.
3. I believe Bertie builds his temperament from environmental factors.
Although the film has not yet yielded enough evidence to identify the
cause, Bertie's frustration may have been the result of a father-son
complex, as well as tensions with his brother. Also, the nanny that
Bertie spoke of after his father's death, and her favoritism towards
David, clearly scarred Bertie and may have contributed to his
condition also.
1. Bertie would fall under the introverted-neurotic category of
Eysenck's Personality Types. Bertie first shows signs of having this
personality type at the beginning, when he is forced to give a speech
on the radio, in front of a crowd of people. He appears very anxious
before and during the speech (or what he give of it). Later, when he
first meets with Lionel, he shows signs of this personality type in
his pessimism about his ability to improve. He went into the session
believing that his case was hopeless, and therefore became blind to
his sudden improvement after reciting the Shakespeare soliloquy while
listening to music. In the same scene, Bertie is also very moody, as
he snaps at Lionel when he tries to create a more personal bond.
2. Bertie shows many traits of the introverted-neurotic type, in
addition to those stated above. When he first meets Lionel, Bertie is
reluctant to talk about personal matters, or even interact using first
names, demonstrating a high level of reserve. Also, that it takes
Lionel quite a while to begin to form a more personal link to Bertie,
shows that he is very rigid, and it is very difficult to persuade him
to do something he is not used to, such as Lionel's unorthodox
methods. Lastly, Bertie's austere behavior towards Ms. Simpson and her
guests at the party shows his unsociable side, and that only the
people very close to him, like his wife, can break that.
3. I believe Bertie builds his temperament from environmental factors.
Although the film has not yet yielded enough evidence to identify the
cause, Bertie's frustration may have been the result of a father-son
complex, as well as tensions with his brother. Also, the nanny that
Bertie spoke of after his father's death, and her favoritism towards
David, clearly scarred Bertie and may have contributed to his
condition also.
Meghan Mahoney
Apr 12, 2012, 10:45:15 PM4/12/12
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LIONEL:
1) I agree with Emily that Lionel should be categorized as extraverted-
stable, but also shows some traits that suggest that he could also be
introverted-stable. Lionel exhibits traits such as leadership,
socialness, and liveliness that suggest that Eysenck would categorize
him this way too. For example, Lionel shows leadership by helping
Bertie overcome his speech impediment. Even though Lionel is of a
lower rank than Bertie, he portrays leadership by not succumbing to
Bertie’s demands, such as holding lessons in his house, and by
establishing his own set of rules that will help Bertie learn the
most. In these lessons Lionel also is very talkative and outgoing by
not feeling ashamed when he participates in some of Bertie’s vocal
exercises. He also is able to easily converse with Bertie about
topics such as his sons and past. Finally, Lionel is very responsive
to Bertie in instances where Bertie does not agree to a certain method
and is able to adapt it accordingly. However, he also seems to be a
controlled, even-tempered, and reliable character, which all suggest
that he is introverted-stable. Even though these traits occur, his
immense socialness is the determining factor.
2) Lionel’s personality does not seem to change within different
situations since he acts similarly with his family and his clients.
Lionel shows the same liveliness with his sons as he does in exercises
with Bertie by quoting Shakespeare for the boys’ entertainment. Also,
he maintains his leadership role when Elizabeth and Bertie mention
their social status and important political role. He maintains his
identity as the teacher and does not show any feelings of inferiority
in his sessions with Bertie. He even emphasizes that in his room they
are complete equals, which is enhanced by the fact that he uses the
casual nickname of Bertie for the duke.
3) The consistency of Lionel’s personality suggests that his
temperament is innate. His easygoing personality is dominant within
his family life and his occupation. When he is rejected during his
audition for the play he shows minor disappointment but then resumes
to his natural lively self when he is next shown in his sessions with
Bertie. His temperament potentially improved over time as he saw more
patients, however the general consistency of his easygoing manner
suggests that it is an innate quality.
1) I agree with Emily that Lionel should be categorized as extraverted-
stable, but also shows some traits that suggest that he could also be
introverted-stable. Lionel exhibits traits such as leadership,
socialness, and liveliness that suggest that Eysenck would categorize
him this way too. For example, Lionel shows leadership by helping
Bertie overcome his speech impediment. Even though Lionel is of a
lower rank than Bertie, he portrays leadership by not succumbing to
Bertie’s demands, such as holding lessons in his house, and by
establishing his own set of rules that will help Bertie learn the
most. In these lessons Lionel also is very talkative and outgoing by
not feeling ashamed when he participates in some of Bertie’s vocal
exercises. He also is able to easily converse with Bertie about
topics such as his sons and past. Finally, Lionel is very responsive
to Bertie in instances where Bertie does not agree to a certain method
and is able to adapt it accordingly. However, he also seems to be a
controlled, even-tempered, and reliable character, which all suggest
that he is introverted-stable. Even though these traits occur, his
immense socialness is the determining factor.
2) Lionel’s personality does not seem to change within different
situations since he acts similarly with his family and his clients.
Lionel shows the same liveliness with his sons as he does in exercises
with Bertie by quoting Shakespeare for the boys’ entertainment. Also,
he maintains his leadership role when Elizabeth and Bertie mention
their social status and important political role. He maintains his
identity as the teacher and does not show any feelings of inferiority
in his sessions with Bertie. He even emphasizes that in his room they
are complete equals, which is enhanced by the fact that he uses the
casual nickname of Bertie for the duke.
3) The consistency of Lionel’s personality suggests that his
temperament is innate. His easygoing personality is dominant within
his family life and his occupation. When he is rejected during his
audition for the play he shows minor disappointment but then resumes
to his natural lively self when he is next shown in his sessions with
Bertie. His temperament potentially improved over time as he saw more
patients, however the general consistency of his easygoing manner
suggests that it is an innate quality.
peter crane
Apr 13, 2012, 11:59:07 AM4/13/12
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Bertie
On Eysenck’s classification, Bertie would fall under the category of
Introverted-Neurotic when he is in the role of the Duke of York. This
can be seen when he becomes extremely anxious and rigid at the stadium
while he gives the speech and cannot speak the words with her
stammer. In addition, he is pessimistic that any treatment towards
his stammer will be successful. However, in the comfort of his home
and in Dr. Logue’s office he becomes Extraverted-Stable. In the scene
with his daughters Bertie shows his easygoing side with the story he
tells to them before they go off to bed. Also, Bertie becomes
sociable and talkative in his therapy with Lionel, discussing his
brother Johnny’s death who suffered from epilepsy as well as personal
things like Edward’s attitude towards becoming King and his father’s
succession.
Bertie seems to respond more towards situationalism because different
traits are seen in his personality in different situations and roles.
As the Duke of York he comes off as anxious through his stutter and
pessimistic towards any hope for a cure. After reading Shakespeare
with the music in his ears he slams down the headphones and walks out
of Lionel’s office because of his pessimism only to hear his flawless
speech later in his house. In the situation of telling the bedtime
story to his daughters he shows the traits of being a loving,
easygoing, and lively father. Also he becomes more relaxed and
sociable with Dr. Logue as his treatment begins to work and their
relationship together becomes more friendly.
I would characterize Bertie’s temperament as a result built from
environmental factors based on the stories he has spoken of and what
Lionel has said is common in people that stammer. For example, Bertie
talked of his painful switch from a left-handed writer to a right-
handed one as well as the straightening of his legs. The environment
of growing up as a Duke of York did not allow for Bertie to have any
friends which he tells Lionel when he says “that’s what friends are
for.” He has never had the support of friendship which most likely
would have helped his anxiety and pessimism. All of these
environmental factors contributed to Bertie’s personality traits.
On Eysenck’s classification, Bertie would fall under the category of
Introverted-Neurotic when he is in the role of the Duke of York. This
can be seen when he becomes extremely anxious and rigid at the stadium
while he gives the speech and cannot speak the words with her
stammer. In addition, he is pessimistic that any treatment towards
his stammer will be successful. However, in the comfort of his home
and in Dr. Logue’s office he becomes Extraverted-Stable. In the scene
with his daughters Bertie shows his easygoing side with the story he
tells to them before they go off to bed. Also, Bertie becomes
sociable and talkative in his therapy with Lionel, discussing his
brother Johnny’s death who suffered from epilepsy as well as personal
things like Edward’s attitude towards becoming King and his father’s
succession.
Bertie seems to respond more towards situationalism because different
traits are seen in his personality in different situations and roles.
As the Duke of York he comes off as anxious through his stutter and
pessimistic towards any hope for a cure. After reading Shakespeare
with the music in his ears he slams down the headphones and walks out
of Lionel’s office because of his pessimism only to hear his flawless
speech later in his house. In the situation of telling the bedtime
story to his daughters he shows the traits of being a loving,
easygoing, and lively father. Also he becomes more relaxed and
sociable with Dr. Logue as his treatment begins to work and their
relationship together becomes more friendly.
I would characterize Bertie’s temperament as a result built from
environmental factors based on the stories he has spoken of and what
Lionel has said is common in people that stammer. For example, Bertie
talked of his painful switch from a left-handed writer to a right-
handed one as well as the straightening of his legs. The environment
of growing up as a Duke of York did not allow for Bertie to have any
friends which he tells Lionel when he says “that’s what friends are
for.” He has never had the support of friendship which most likely
would have helped his anxiety and pessimism. All of these
environmental factors contributed to Bertie’s personality traits.
Dan Elfman
Apr 13, 2012, 1:02:04 PM4/13/12
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Lionel Logue
1. I would classify Lionel as Extraverted-Stable. This is because he
demonstrates that he is lively, responsive, and talkative. He is
lively because he loves to act, and goof around with his children when
he pretends to be a hunched back. He responds to Bertie's aggression
casually and cooly, showing that he is responsive and can handle
situations with no lack of stability. He needs to be talkative to
perform his job because otherwise he would not be able to instruct or
feel comfortable with his patients and have no success helping them,
and the fact that he attempts to get to know about Bertie's personal
life shows he is talkative and social.
2. I would say that Lionel lends himself to Eysenck's traits for an
extraverted-stable individual. He mostly relates to the lively,
responsive, and talkative traits of of the extraverted-stable type.
He could also be considered as carrying leadership qualities because
he takes charge of the meetings with Bertie, who is a duke. He is
lively during these meetings and has Bertie doing active tasks.
3. I believe that Lionel's temperament is innate. I think he was
born into being a lively character, who clearly has a drive to work
hard. I don't believe he became a motivated, confident speech
therapist from outside factors, I believe he's always had an
appreciation for being intelligent which makes him smart enough to be
witty, and lively.
1. I would classify Lionel as Extraverted-Stable. This is because he
demonstrates that he is lively, responsive, and talkative. He is
lively because he loves to act, and goof around with his children when
he pretends to be a hunched back. He responds to Bertie's aggression
casually and cooly, showing that he is responsive and can handle
situations with no lack of stability. He needs to be talkative to
perform his job because otherwise he would not be able to instruct or
feel comfortable with his patients and have no success helping them,
and the fact that he attempts to get to know about Bertie's personal
life shows he is talkative and social.
2. I would say that Lionel lends himself to Eysenck's traits for an
extraverted-stable individual. He mostly relates to the lively,
responsive, and talkative traits of of the extraverted-stable type.
He could also be considered as carrying leadership qualities because
he takes charge of the meetings with Bertie, who is a duke. He is
lively during these meetings and has Bertie doing active tasks.
3. I believe that Lionel's temperament is innate. I think he was
born into being a lively character, who clearly has a drive to work
hard. I don't believe he became a motivated, confident speech
therapist from outside factors, I believe he's always had an
appreciation for being intelligent which makes him smart enough to be
witty, and lively.
Allen Mannheim
Apr 13, 2012, 1:22:41 PM4/13/12
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King George V
1.
George V falls under Eysenck's Extroverted-Neurotic classification.
In the film George V uses his position as king and father to cause
fear in Bertie. George V says that he was scared of his father, so his
kids should be scared of him also, so he avoids Bertie and when he
does interact with him he yells at him for being wrong. George V is
very outgoing and is much more sociable than his sons, he can easily
manipulate the radio to gain the trust of his citizens. George V is
also easily changeable, he changes positions on Bertie, going from
hating him and his speech impediment, and changes to using his last
words to say that he loves Bertie and thinks he is the strongest of
his brothers.
2.
Eysenck traits that George V display being very situational. He
shows this situationalism when he says that Bertie is a failure, but
on his deathbed he thinks Bertie is the strongest of his brothers. He
is also uses emotional situationalism between stability and
instability in his emotions. In private he is scared about Hitler’s
reign in Europe and his spreading influence and also the Bolshevik
influence spreading from the east, however when in public or on the
radio he shows a calm demeanor and shows no fear at all for the
problems spreading in Europe. George V also loves talking and having
other people talk about him and having great conversations at the
dinner table, clear signs of an Extrovert.
3.
George V's temperament most probably is built from his
environmental factors. He was the first-born son and the first in line
to the throne, George V was raised to be a king and to accept nothing
less than perfection and knowing the wait of his future kingship.
George V feared his father, contributing to his own need to have his
sons fear him also George V was raised to be an extrovert and he acted
like it, no matter what he truly wanted. Being a king was stressful
and worrying about rising tensions in Europe may have also impacted
his neurotic nature. However, to the people he ruled over he had to be
a stable and calm leader. He had to display situationalism between his
social life and his life with his family, which could cause him to be
more neurotic, and not knowing the difference between his two
personas.
Anna Kasok
Apr 13, 2012, 3:48:14 PM4/13/12
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Elizabeth:
1) I agree with Justin and Marina that Elizabeth could be classified
as introverted-stable, but I also believe that she could be considered
extraverted-stable. Elizabeth shows leadership abilities because she
is the one in charge of finding Bertie a speech therapist. Even after
it doesn’t work out with a therapist, she keeps on searching. She is
also very sociable because she knew how to make Mrs. Logue feel
comfortable by helping her to handle the surprise that the King and
Queen were in her home. She is also very responsive because she
always knows exactly what Bertie needs from her. For example, when he
was worried about the Christmas speech, she knew to encourage him and
remind him of how special he is, whereas when they left Lionel’s
office the first time and Bertie was very angry, Elizabeth simply
patted him on the shoulder.
2) Elizabeth shows many of Eysenck’s traits. She is sociable because
she makes everyone feel comfortable. She is talkative and always able
to fill an awkward silence. She is responsive to Bertie’s needs for
love and emotional support. She is lively and full of energy and
always ready for the next thing to come her way. She shows leadership
by taking on the project of finding Bertie a good speech therapist.
3) Elizabeth’s temperament is based on environmental factors. When
Bertie was scared about needing to make the Christmas speech,
Elizabeth comforted him and told him she loved him. She also
explained why she said no to his first two marriage proposals. She
said it was because she was scared of the life that she would be
getting herself into, a life that was different from the one she led
previously. However, all the viewer saw was a lively, sociable,
confident women who seemed as if she had been born to rule. Because
the viewer knows that she was not always this way, the viewer can
assume that her extraverted-stable traits are the results of
environmental factors.
1) I agree with Justin and Marina that Elizabeth could be classified
as introverted-stable, but I also believe that she could be considered
extraverted-stable. Elizabeth shows leadership abilities because she
is the one in charge of finding Bertie a speech therapist. Even after
it doesn’t work out with a therapist, she keeps on searching. She is
also very sociable because she knew how to make Mrs. Logue feel
comfortable by helping her to handle the surprise that the King and
Queen were in her home. She is also very responsive because she
always knows exactly what Bertie needs from her. For example, when he
was worried about the Christmas speech, she knew to encourage him and
remind him of how special he is, whereas when they left Lionel’s
office the first time and Bertie was very angry, Elizabeth simply
patted him on the shoulder.
2) Elizabeth shows many of Eysenck’s traits. She is sociable because
she makes everyone feel comfortable. She is talkative and always able
to fill an awkward silence. She is responsive to Bertie’s needs for
love and emotional support. She is lively and full of energy and
always ready for the next thing to come her way. She shows leadership
by taking on the project of finding Bertie a good speech therapist.
3) Elizabeth’s temperament is based on environmental factors. When
Bertie was scared about needing to make the Christmas speech,
Elizabeth comforted him and told him she loved him. She also
explained why she said no to his first two marriage proposals. She
said it was because she was scared of the life that she would be
getting herself into, a life that was different from the one she led
previously. However, all the viewer saw was a lively, sociable,
confident women who seemed as if she had been born to rule. Because
the viewer knows that she was not always this way, the viewer can
assume that her extraverted-stable traits are the results of
environmental factors.
Mark mulligan
Apr 13, 2012, 4:39:47 PM4/13/12
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1) I disagree, as I feel that Lionel should be categorized as
introverted-stable. While he does talk to Bertie, and try to engage
him, it appears that he is fairly passive, and not overly outgoing, as
described in extroverted stable. Despite the fact that he does attempt
to engage Bertie, such as when he gets him to swear to help his
speech, he still is not particularly outgoing in his attempts to coach
Bertie. However, he remains peaceful and calm, as he never loses his
temper or gets upset, even when Bertie yelled at him for sitting in
Edward's chair. He is very controlled, and never slips up anytime he
is coaching Bertie. He is able to maintain calm with Bertie, as
evidenced when he is able to help him get through his speech.
2) I agree with Meghan, I think Lionel stays with to Eysnck's
personality types, since he is able to keep his calm demeanor no
matter what situation Bertie puts him into. For example, even when
Bertie is upset over the bet, Lionel is able to keep his calm and
controlled demeanor, even though Bertie is angry with him. He is also
able to keep this calm demeanor when Bertie is calm, like when Bertie
was expressing his thanks towards him for helping him right before he
delivered his speech. Thus, since Lionel's calm and controlled
personality is able to be present no matter what situation he is in,
he is able to hold onto Eysnck's personality types.
3) I disagree, as I feel that Lionel's temperament is environmental
factors. Since we are given little glimpse into Lionel's personal
life, we are not able to see how he acts when he is not working.
However, while it can be assumed that he does not completely change,
it is also clear that his work environment demands a person who is
calm and collected at all times. Since a speech impediment can be
frustrating, his patience and serenity even in cases of stress is
definitely a product of his environment, since he has a need to
maintain order with his patients.
introverted-stable. While he does talk to Bertie, and try to engage
him, it appears that he is fairly passive, and not overly outgoing, as
described in extroverted stable. Despite the fact that he does attempt
to engage Bertie, such as when he gets him to swear to help his
speech, he still is not particularly outgoing in his attempts to coach
Bertie. However, he remains peaceful and calm, as he never loses his
temper or gets upset, even when Bertie yelled at him for sitting in
Edward's chair. He is very controlled, and never slips up anytime he
is coaching Bertie. He is able to maintain calm with Bertie, as
evidenced when he is able to help him get through his speech.
2) I agree with Meghan, I think Lionel stays with to Eysnck's
personality types, since he is able to keep his calm demeanor no
matter what situation Bertie puts him into. For example, even when
Bertie is upset over the bet, Lionel is able to keep his calm and
controlled demeanor, even though Bertie is angry with him. He is also
able to keep this calm demeanor when Bertie is calm, like when Bertie
was expressing his thanks towards him for helping him right before he
delivered his speech. Thus, since Lionel's calm and controlled
personality is able to be present no matter what situation he is in,
he is able to hold onto Eysnck's personality types.
3) I disagree, as I feel that Lionel's temperament is environmental
factors. Since we are given little glimpse into Lionel's personal
life, we are not able to see how he acts when he is not working.
However, while it can be assumed that he does not completely change,
it is also clear that his work environment demands a person who is
calm and collected at all times. Since a speech impediment can be
frustrating, his patience and serenity even in cases of stress is
definitely a product of his environment, since he has a need to
maintain order with his patients.
Abi Cooper
Apr 13, 2012, 10:12:31 PM4/13/12
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King George V
1) I agree with Kate and Allen; King George V would best be classified as Extraverted-Neurotic. When he tries to teach Bertie to speak into the radio, he is very aggressive, shouting at him to spit it out and get on with it. In addition, extraverted-neurotic types are characterized as changeable, which can be shown by the fact that later, when he dies, George V says that Bertie has more guts than the rest of his brothers combined, which seems incongruous with his yelling. Bertie also mentions that when he was young, though he and David both wanted to make model airplanes, George would not allow it and forced them to find other ways to entertain themselves that he deemed more suitable; I would interpret this as a form of aggression.
2) George exhibits a lot of situationalism, though he does tend to stay within the extraverted side of Eysenck's types. As previously stated, he can be aggressive and loving with Bertie, though he is usually only aggressive to his face. This would classify him as Extraverted-Neurotic, but in public he can easily appear Extraverted-Stable. He shows good leadership skills, and on the radio he has the right balance between seeming authoritative and easygoing. This ability is especially pronounced given the political unease of the 30s because of Hitler coming to power in Germany and the Communist Revolution in Russia.
3) I agree with both Allen and Kate that George V's temperament is due to environmental factors. As part of the royal family, his whole life has been about figuring out how to act in front of others, and the extremely specific guidelines that dictate much of his life would have had a lot of influence over his temperament. This balance between Extraverted-Neurotic and Extraverted-Stable would have been necessary for him to establish in order to fulfill his duties; if he had not been royal, he may have fit more securely into only one quadrant on Eysenck's wheel.
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