MOV is a container. Thus it has little relevance to quality or ease of editing. The codec matters. ProRes is a low compression high bitrate codec, and it is easy to edit compared with H265 and H264 codecs, which are highly compressed and have lower bitrates. Quality depends on bitrate, which can vary a lot within each codec, so no generalization is possible.
Mov was traditionally Mac and MP4 was Windows. Now they are basically interchangeable containers. The 8 Bit Canon is H.264 and the 10 bit Canon is H.265 (HVEC). The 10 Bit H.265 is highly compressed and requires lots of CPU power to edit (In 4K). MAC m1 or greater can edit theses files with no issues. Windows requires a modern CPU and GPU to Work with these types of files. Usually Intel I7 11th Gen or higher with Nvidia 2060GPU. My windows 10th Gen I7 and NVIDIA 1650TI cannot Edit 4k without Proxies, but my Mac M1/M2 pro can. Mov compare to Pro Res some people will say that the quality difference is negligeable but you will likely get better Motion in high motion scenes with Pro Res as it records each frame and slightly less noise. The compression on r7 and r10 are IPB or IPB light so it records every 3rd frame and generates the in-between frames making the motion of water or complex scenes a little murky
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DV.avi is about 13 GB per hour so that sounds about right. And it is actually compressed. DV.avi is about 5:1 compression. Uncompresssed avi would be 5x larger! Any compression you do to the DV.avi is going to affect the quality or resolution but will make for smaller files.
What I would like to do is find a way to get my 2 hour videos stored in AVI files around this size (700 MB) so I could store them and then burn them to DVD in the future or just play them on my media player connected to my TV.
There is no way that you can compare trying to save your low resolution VHS tapes (VHS is low resolution to begin with)to what you get when you down load a highly compressed movie from the net. They start at a very high quality and the same amount of compression will not effect them nearly as much. If you compress to a low resolution avi, when you want to put them on dvd you will have to recompress again to MPEG2 which will further degenerate them. IMO this would be unacceptable. Kind of like a third generation vhs copy.
Since my first priority while watching a movie is to get good Peetimes I always make sure I know how long the movie is so that I can properly judge when I should find a last Peetime. I knew going in that the runtime of this movie was only 84 minutes, which would be shorter given the end credits. About half way through the movie I was really wondering how they were going to wrap things up in a satisfactory way without leaving the audience feeling let down. I was surprised to find out that they managed it really well. The last half of the movie was considerably better than the first half.
About The Peetimes: Movies like this, that quickly jump from scene to scene, are hard to find Peetimes for. Plus, this is a short and highly compressed movie with a lot of dialog. I managed to find two good Peetimes. The first one is best. The second one has a non-graphic sex scene. I only chose it because it was a long scene with little dialog, unlike the rest of the movie.
In order to dig into this problem it is important to understand that video files are usually compressed with a highly lossy compression whereas the interactive display is not compressed. The usual movie compressions are often extremely bad with graphs, and it is a matter of compression parameters.
Unfortunately, these options really depend on the video codec, which is a third-party program (usually ffmpeg), the intended use of your video, and your platform. I would start by adding the kwarg bitrate=-1 to see if it improves things.
I am no expert but do understand codecs, bitrates, formats etc. and usually have pretty good results when exporting footage. However, today I was editing a webinar which is basically screenshots and voice over. The source file (.mp4) is about 40MB but when exporting the file size jumps to 3+GB when using .h264 codec and matching the source file.
Thanks guys. here are the screenshots. As you can see the original file (sequence) is a screen grab which is not a typical video file and I couldn't match it's format when exporting. The best I could do was to reduce it's bitrate but even that too almost 30 minutes to render even though most of the screens are static images.
I know this is an old thread but I am seeing the same results, namely a 500 mb webinar video turns into a 2 gb file no matter what I set it at in the export panel. The only workaround for this for me is to use another program like Shotcut to import the Premiere Pro exported video and then reduce in size using that app. It's really unfortunate that a program so expensive as Premeier Pro can't export to a file format that is comparable in file size to the original.
If you included the information on the original file from say the Tree view of MediaInfo, and your export settings in Premiere, and the MediaInfo Tree view of that export, we could make actually useful comments. Also ... Premiere can do all sorts of things if you know to go in and actually, like, set the many options so it will do what you want.
With a caveat for this one. Starting with say screen-capture media, which is normally extremely compressed, editing it, and wanting to get back the that extremely condensed version ... that's possible. But ... you of course have to accept potential issues.
Accepting the above, we all need to learn the format/codec settings for various needs, that's a normal part of editing. Including for extreme compression, where H.264/265 are probably what you will need.
And the presets offered are trying to maintain quality. Forget that, you're demanding compress the heck out of it. So you only start with a preset, then you have to go into the settings to take control yourself.
Then go down into the Video tab, Level setting rather than say 5.1, drop that to about 4. Now go down to the settings for CBR/VBR, and select VBR (variable bitrate, only 'keeps' the bits per frame needed) ... and drop to say 12 max for 1920x1080, and maybe 20 max for UHD.
So you're saying that GoToWebinar has a more advanced video compression method than the world's leading video editing software? If Premiere cannot, at the very least, match what GTW uses for compression then there is no point in using it.
I followed several different YT/Adobe videos on how to compress the crap out of videos for file size and not one single method got even close to what GTW can do. Like I said, I couldn't get my 500mb webinar any smaller than 2gb - I then import it into Shortcut and that gets it down to 900mb.
My original file was 116.5 MB. The smallest I was able to get it using H.264 and reducing the size was 1.1 GB. Used your tips about switching to HEVC/265 and lowering the level, VBR, etc. Got it down to 209.5 MB at full size (1920x1080), which is a whole lot better than over a Gig with a smaller viewing area.
I'm having exactly the same problem. I recorded a webinar using Zoom, which created an 85Mb MP4 file. It's basically a Powerpoint presentation of about 70 minutes, with a voiceover. When I chose H.264 and high bitrate, the exported file was over 5Gb. I then tried again, this time selecting MPEG4 and medium bitrate - this time, the file was smaller than the original but the video was so blurry it was unusable. I notice that the Export Settings window actually gives a preview of what the output will look like, and even the higher 3GPP 352x288 H.263 gives results that are too blurry, even though the file size is larger than the original.
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