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Aug 2, 2024, 6:59:25 AM8/2/24

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As for the actualy carrier unlocking, you need only to put your Public Mobile sim card in the phone and type in the MEP code. If that doesn'' work, or if you want to unlock one of these types of devices, they could be unlocked without even having another carrier's sim card. As quoted from -unlocking-f157/how-unlock-blackberry-torch-9810-unlock-code... :

As for data, you can't without a Blackberry BIS server. Although it sounds like there might be a hack to get around that for MMS but the person that mentioned it said they didn't actually do it so they can't say for certain.

There are 2 ways to mitigate the security issue, switch your encryption to the enterprise version of WPA (which requires you to add an additional server, if you haven't one already).. AND/OR isolate the router from the rest of the network with a seperate VLAN with specific firewall instructions.

As for Telus acheiving the impossoble to unlock this phone for you, why would this have been any more difficult than unlocking any other phone? If anything, unlocking an old model would be easier because unlock codes are so readily available.

Same boat still afloat. We needed a quick emergency cell and did not want to put out a thousand dollars for a BUZZ FILLED system. Found an old Torch 9800 Blackberry hardly used that had been sitting in a drawer since 2010. Thought we would try. Well thanks to Telus they worked hard to get this phone unlocked. They achieved a miracle. Still a really good phone. HOWEVER the Wi-Fi is of old with apparently no updates anywhere. The phone hooks into a Wi-Fi network and lights up for about 2 seconds and then the unit says UNABLE TO CONNECT Wi-Fi. Have tried everything we know but unless we drop the security level on our router the old Blackberry Torch 9800 just cannot hold the connection on today's notably smarter and more sophisticated routers and Carrier system. Telus say they could dumb down so we could connect but for a purely side phone we do not want to sacrifice current router connections with laptops, other cell phones (newer of course) etc.

Anybody know how to solve this delemia? We believe there is nothing we can do for the phone other than do telephone calls and text. Actually fine with that but having full Wi-Fi compatibility would be a bonus.

Gwt another router, You can get them for $10 at a thrift store. Connect it to the current router, and set up the wifi for the 9800. You do not need a new router either, You can still use the wifi on the other router for your other devices

@bridonca when BlackBerry was first creating their smart phones way back in I guess it was the late 90's or so, you have to remember that the world was a very different place. There were no iPhones or Android phones and the work even predated Windows Phones. At the time, and GPRS or maybe at most EDGE were the mobile data flavours of the day--and they. were. very. very. slow. Back then there weren't a ton of data-consuming apps like YouTube and modern mobile browsers like Chrome or Safari, no Netflix or Spotify, Web 2.0 was barely a sparkle in someone's eye. Back then the infrastructure for mobile data was awful, and RIM made decisions which made sense at the time, looking through the lenses of that era. They added their own proprietary data compression between the mobile carrier and the user's BB. Data networks were so slow that squeezing every payload down to as few bits as possible made a big difference. By today's standards, it was a backward setup, but it made sense then.

IIRC, the last device released with BB 7 was the Bold 9900 back in May of 2011, and by then the iPhone was at least a couple of generations old, Android was starting to take hold, and mobile data was relatively mature and into 2.5 and 3G technologies like CDMA 2000 with EVDO and HSPA over the GSM stack were in the wild and constricting data through a proprietary middle-tier to add compression and encryption just didn't make sense any more. EDIT: but, the BIS/BES infrastructure was so ingrained in the legacy BBOS architecture, that it wasn't feasible to rip them out without a rewrite of the OS, which they did with BB10 which finally launched in I believe Feb or March of 2013. But of course we all know that the battle had already been lost for RIM by then, unfortunately.

Edit: I edited my post to make one Curve line. I'm aware from going through them on gsmarena that some of the same-name models had different number variants. I didn't list them if they didn't have the PM 3G freq's.

@bridonca do you have access to a BES server through your employer or something? As already noted, BB7 and older needs a BIS or a BES for mobile data (WiFi of course is fine but you can't do MMS over WiFi).

The best kind of "vintage" BlackBerry phone to get these days is a BB10 phone; as others said, they don't require BES or BIS for data/MMS. They work on any given smart phone plan, provided the service provider allows them on their network. (PM does. I use a Q10 without issue.)

Caveats: BB10 is end of life, BB World along w/ other services are shutting down at the end of the year, and it's not 100% clear that BB10 will continue to work as it does today. It'll likely be okay, but there's dependencies on BlackBerry IDs which call up certain servers, so you may not be able to do backups any more. And you can't get apps unless you sideload them (native BAR files or install Android APKs directly; mileage, again, will vary). I love BB10, but proceed with caution if you go that route.

Just from eyeballing it, I can see that Blackberry Curve 9320 is missing from that list. More imporantly, many of those devices had different variants, each supporting different 3g freqencies. For example, a Blackberry 9700 from Wind Mobile or T-Mobile (u.s.), or even factory unlocked variants meant to be sold elsewhere in the world would not work at Public Mobile.

It would be my opinion that the phone should keep working after the end of this year. I think using it as a phone and texting and some browsing (being aware of security issues) will be fine. I find some security issues blocking me trying to connect to some wifi's (which may be for the better anyway). Some websites don't work.

Compared to the junk I have successfully configured to work on Public Mobile, the Blackberry 9800 is a modern phone! You will get data and MMS on this phone. It does need work to configure it properly though.