Updates for OSGeo Live 5.5

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Pirmin Kalberer

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Jan 27, 2012, 5:34:17 PM1/27/12
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Hi all,
I'm maintaining SpatiaLite for OSGEO Live( live.osgeo.org).
Since I'm short of time for updating the docs and all packages on the current
release, I'm asking for help.
If someone could update at least the overview doc during my holidays, I would
commit the changes end of next week.
The current beta build can be downloaded from
http://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/5.5/
Instructions: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
You can look into the current docs on the OSGEO Trac:
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/doc/en
Regards
Pirmin

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Cameron Shorter

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Jan 27, 2012, 6:48:29 PM1/27/12
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On 28/01/12 09:34, Pirmin Kalberer wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm maintaining SpatiaLite for OSGEO Live( live.osgeo.org).
> Since I'm short of time for updating the docs and all packages on the current
> release, I'm asking for help.
> If someone could update at least the overview doc during my holidays, I would
> commit the changes end of next week.
> The current beta build can be downloaded from
> http://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/5.5/
> Instructions: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
> You can look into the current docs on the OSGEO Trac:
> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/doc/en
> Regards
> Pirmin
>
And if Pirmin is hard to contact while he is away this week, feel free
to ping me (I've been coordinating contributions to OSGeo-Live). You
should also be able to find faster help at: irc://freenode.net#osgeolive
(Pirmin, you may need to forward this message to the spatialite email
list as I'm not on it)

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Micha

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Jan 30, 2012, 9:53:21 AM1/30/12
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On Jan 28, 12:34 am, Pirmin Kalberer <pirmin.kalbe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm maintaining SpatiaLite for OSGEO Live( live.osgeo.org).
> Since I'm short of time for updating the docs and all packages on the current
> release, I'm asking for help.
> If someone could update at least the overview doc during my holidays, I would
> commit the changes end of next week.
> The current beta build can be downloaded fromhttp://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/5.5/
> Instructions:http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
> You can look into the current docs on the OSGEO Trac:http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/doc/en
> RegardsPirmin
>

Hello Pirmin:

I've taken the liberty to make some changes and additions to the
overview and quickstart docs. (sent separately)
If it looks OK, go ahead and upload to the docs on Trac.

Some issues regarding Spatialite.

First, I notice that in the /home/user/data/spatialite directory there
are three DBs, taking about 40 MB together and they seem to be
redundant (similar tables in each). Perhaps we can consolidate into
one - say regions.sqlite - and thus save about 25-30 MB. It's not much
in disk space, but every little bit...

Additonally, the current version of the spatialite CLI program is at
3.0.x on Ubuntu, but the spatialite-gui program is still "stuck" at
1.4.0 so the new features available in the CLI are missing from the
GUI. (Ubuntu is keeping the libspatialite2 around just for the GUI
till a new spatialite-gui is ready). THere's nothing OSGeo-Live can do
about this other than gently encourage ubuntugis to put out updated
packages for the GUI also. Should this inconsistency between the CLI
and the GUI deserve special mention in the Overview doc??

Regards,

Micha

> --PirminKalberer

Alex Mandel

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Jan 30, 2012, 2:04:16 PM1/30/12
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From what I can tell, spatialite gui comes from downloading the
pre-built binaries from the spatialite website. Ubuntugis does not have
the gui in it's deb (I've wanted to fix this for a while, but haven't
figured out how to build it myself).

So I don't see any reason why we can't try swapping out the GUI for the
newer one. Of course if you have deb building skills I'm happy to work
with you to get this packaged finally and uploaded to Ubuntugis.

Thanks,
Alex
OSGeo Live Builder, Ubuntugis member

Pirmin Kalberer

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Feb 2, 2012, 4:02:20 PM2/2/12
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Hi Micha,

Thanks for your additions, I've just commited them!

The sample data is taken from http://www.gaia-
gis.it/spatialite-2.4.0/samples.tar.gz
Is there a better samples download in the meantime?

> >
> > Additonally, the current version of the spatialite CLI program is at
> > 3.0.x on Ubuntu, but the spatialite-gui program is still "stuck" at
> > 1.4.0 so the new features available in the CLI are missing from the
> > GUI. (Ubuntu is keeping the libspatialite2 around just for the GUI
> > till a new spatialite-gui is ready). THere's nothing OSGeo-Live can do
> > about this other than gently encourage ubuntugis to put out updated
> > packages for the GUI also. Should this inconsistency between the CLI
> > and the GUI deserve special mention in the Overview doc??
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Micha
> >
> >> --PirminKalberer
> >> Sourcepole - Linux & Open Source Solutionshttp://www.sourcepole.com
>
> From what I can tell, spatialite gui comes from downloading the
> pre-built binaries from the spatialite website. Ubuntugis does not have
> the gui in it's deb (I've wanted to fix this for a while, but haven't
> figured out how to build it myself).
>
> So I don't see any reason why we can't try swapping out the GUI for the
> newer one. Of course if you have deb building skills I'm happy to work
> with you to get this packaged finally and uploaded to Ubuntugis.

I will do a quick try with the new binary downloads. I was also planning
packaging these SpatiaLite apps, but gave up after waiting for a libspatialite
release for more than two years.

Regards
Pirmin

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Alex Mandel

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Feb 3, 2012, 1:08:05 PM2/3/12
to Micha Silver, Pirmin Kalberer, spatiali...@googlegroups.com, Micha
On 02/03/2012 09:04 AM, Micha Silver wrote:

> On 02/02/2012 11:02 PM, Pirmin Kalberer wrote:
>> Hi Micha,
>>
>> Thanks for your additions, I've just commited them!
>>
>
> Cheers
>
>>
>> The sample data is taken fromhttp://www.gaia-

>> gis.it/spatialite-2.4.0/samples.tar.gz
>> Is there a better samples download in the meantime?
>>
>
> Yes, I was thinking to consolidate the three DB's into one. THey seem to contain
> similar, or identical tables. Shall I give it a try?
>
> Do you know if any of the other software on the DVD references these DB's? I did
> a quick grep thru the docs dir and found no mention of the sqlite db's except in
> the Spatialite page.
> If not, then we need only make sure the the Spatialite quickstart uses the
> consolidated one.

>
>>> From what I can tell, spatialite gui comes from downloading the
>>> pre-built binaries from the spatialite website. Ubuntugis does not have
>>> the gui in it's deb (I've wanted to fix this for a while, but haven't
>>> figured out how to build it myself).
>>>
>>> So I don't see any reason why we can't try swapping out the GUI for the
>>> newer one. Of course if you have deb building skills I'm happy to work
>>> with you to get this packaged finally and uploaded to Ubuntugis.
>> I will do a quick try with the new binary downloads. I was also planning
>> packaging these SpatiaLite apps, but gave up after waiting for a libspatialite
>> release for more than two years.
>>
>
> It's unfortunate that the GUI and CLI are not kept in sync in Ubuntu. Although
> the situation is the same AKAIK in Fedora.
>
> Best,
> Micha
>
>> Regards
>> Pirmin
>>

QGIS might reference a db or 2, if it doesn't we should add them to the
sample projects. I'm working with the UbuntuGIS team to get
spatialite-gui up to date in our PPA but it might not make this
OSGeoLive disc.

The biggest challenge apparently is the build dependencies, some of
which have to be backported in order to build on slightly older ubuntu.

Spatialite is just too cutting edge sometimes for the packagers to keep
up (not always a bad thing)

Thanks,
Alex

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