FST4W and WSPR - 2 Hz Tx difference

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PE3ES / F4VTQ

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Mar 4, 2023, 4:14:50 AM3/4/23
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When setting the same band and same dial frequency (in my case 30 meter and 1437) sending WSPR and FST4W intermittently produces a static 2 Hz difference between the decoded signals.

A stable receiver like G3ZIL reports :
FST4W 10.140.132
WSPR 10.140.134
All other stable stations show the same frequencies and 2 Hz difference.

Where is that unexpected 2 Hz difference coming from ?

The difference from 1437 is my own calibration difference, but now I do not know which frequency to tune to, 1432 or 1434.

Thanks
Erwin




ahop...@googlemail.com

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Mar 4, 2023, 7:35:02 AM3/4/23
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Hi Erwin,
that is interesting, I had a very quick look at the code and the signal for both modes uses the tx frequency for the lowest tone and the others are higher,  maybe I should centre them around the tx frequency, I don't remember details about this in the spec. I shall have a play and compare self  decodes with the same signal routed to wsjtx. With a tone spacing of 1.46Hz the centre of the signal would be just over 2Hz higher so maybe wspr and fst4w decoders use a different measure of the tx frequency.
73 Alan M0NNB

PE3ES / F4VTQ

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Mar 5, 2023, 4:53:35 PM3/5/23
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I have used my RFZero as test transmitter today. I see SparkSDR + HL2 spotting that 30 meter signal :
- FST4W 1430/1431
- WSPR   1433

So in spotting the same frequency also decodes show  2 Hz difference where WSPR is again the higher one.

Op zaterdag 4 maart 2023 om 13:35:02 UTC+1 schreef ahop...@googlemail.com:

PE3ES / F4VTQ

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Mar 7, 2023, 4:47:44 AM3/7/23
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Yesterday afternoon I used another setup to do the same test:
Yaesu FT817nd - WSJTx 2.6.1
After a few hours of comparing FST4W with WSPR, surprise, NO difference between the 2 frequencies ....

Op zondag 5 maart 2023 om 22:53:35 UTC+1 schreef PE3ES / F4VTQ:
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