Makerbot CES Announcement

[Chris Meyer]

Not sure if this is more concisely summarized somewhere else, but here's some info:

http://live.cnet.com/Event/CES_2014_Makerbot_press_conference_live_blog?Page=0

They're definitely tipping their hats towards the consumer market, but their prices are going up.  They've fully embraced enclosed printing now that they have the patent portfolio of Stratasys to leverage.

Chris

[Joe Kerman]

holy pricepoint! ouch!

I have always assumed that heated build platforms were only useful for slower printing. ALL the reprap guys who experimented with it never could figure out how to get good results without slowing print speed WAY down.  Was it them not working it out? or is it really better?

If you put their product line up against the pictures of the rest of stratasys' line, it makes a lot of sense. they all have really similar featuresets now, and they all scale down in price very nicely. 

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[Have Blue]

I always understood the heated build platform to be mostly for ABS to help the material adhere to the build plate and to reduce warp.  Although the 3 new printers are only for PLA, I have a sneaking suspicion that they'll be 'upgraded' to run ABS soon.  Particularly interesting is that as of 2 days ago, the MSDS sheet for Makerbot ABS changed from the Chi Mei PA-747 resin to Stratasys P430 (which is Sabic MG94).

But yeah, over $6k for a Makerbot, yikes...  That starts getting close to Mojo territory, though the Mojo still has the advantage of soluble support material (I'm guessing Stratasys will insist on keeping Makerbot as a single-nozzle company to help differentiate Makerbots from Mojo/uPrint).

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[Joe Kerman]

is the shying away from ABS due to that a lot of places have restrictions on styrene fumes indoors? I know its a problem for all of the local school districts and universities here. no ABS 3d printer fumes are allowed without external ventilation, which nobody can afford

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[Have Blue]

Eh, doubtful - if the machine is fully enclosed Stratasys-style, there shouldn't be any ventilation concerns.  Additionally, the Z18 is positioned more for the professional market, not education.

If I were in the education field, I think I'd be more worried about kids touching a hot build plate than a few plastic fumes.  I still have a hunch that ABS is in the plans for these new machines - they may just be working on ramping up filament production to account for the loss of Village Plastics.

On Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:38:48 PM UTC-6, Joe Kerman wrote:

is the shying away from ABS due to that a lot of places have restrictions on styrene fumes indoors? I know its a problem for all of the local school districts and universities here. no ABS 3d printer fumes are allowed without external ventilation, which nobody can afford

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Have Blue <haveb...@gmail.com> wrote:

I always understood the heated build platform to be mostly for ABS to help the material adhere to the build plate and to reduce warp.  Although the 3 new printers are only for PLA, I have a sneaking suspicion that they'll be 'upgraded' to run ABS soon.  Particularly interesting is that as of 2 days ago, the MSDS sheet for Makerbot ABS changed from the Chi Mei PA-747 resin to Stratasys P430 (which is Sabic MG94).

But yeah, over $6k for a Makerbot, yikes...  That starts getting close to Mojo territory, though the Mojo still has the advantage of soluble support material (I'm guessing Stratasys will insist on keeping Makerbot as a single-nozzle company to help differentiate Makerbots from Mojo/uPrint).

On Monday, January 6, 2014 9:21:18 PM UTC-6, Joe Kerman wrote:

holy pricepoint! ouch!

I have always assumed that heated build platforms were only useful for slower printing. ALL the reprap guys who experimented with it never could figure out how to get good results without slowing print speed WAY down.  Was it them not working it out? or is it really better?

If you put their product line up against the pictures of the rest of stratasys' line, it makes a lot of sense. they all have really similar featuresets now, and they all scale down in price very nicely. 

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Chris Meyer <wate...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not sure if this is more concisely summarized somewhere else, but here's some info:

http://live.cnet.com/Event/CES_2014_Makerbot_press_conference_live_blog?Page=0

They're definitely tipping their hats towards the consumer market, but their prices are going up.  They've fully embraced enclosed printing now that they have the patent portfolio of Stratasys to leverage.

Chris

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[Pete Prodoehl]

Kids have to learn not to touch hot things!

I mean, we can only do so much with soldering irons and hot glue guns.

(I'd also expect ABS to be coming later.)


Pete