Bentley Prostructures Object Enabler

[Nicodemo Aidara]

Iam using Plant 3D 2016 and need to reference an existing Bentley Autoplant V8i 3D model. I have the object enabler for the piping and equipment module but, cannot find the object enabler for the ProSteel module. Does anyone know where I can get this object enabler?

There is an ongoing thead over on the Bentley forums discussing ProSteel support for Navisworks, I wanted to raise a few points here to see if there were any possible solutions, and also get some thoughts on how others use the two programs together.

I have been unable to produce any satifactory results when importing ProSteel ACAD models into Navisworks, through the variety of methods I have tried, there are pros and cons to each and I havent been able to find one that works 100%.

We current use Autocad assemblies of our prosteel models which are then appended or merged directly into our Navisworks model. The only disadvantage to this is that we dont get the prosteel properties in navisworks. We have toyed with the idea of scripting the NWCOUT function over night to create our navsiworks models but then this kind of defeats the purpose of the navis being 100% up to date.

We were having issues when we first installed Navis2015 with our Solid Kernel not displaying but that looks to be no fixed at least for us with the that object enabler i quoted. We dont ever use the boolean functions within prosteel but here is a plate where i booleaned a hole out and turned on solid kernel. I then opened this model directly in navisworks and as you can see it displays fine

Can you please try the test again with a plate and a shape member, with ACIS 3D solid and with ProSteel primitive boolean? I have found that the boolean modifications that use ProSteel primitive solids display OK in Navisworks, but the ACIS boolean modifcations do not display in Navisworks.

If your Solid Kernel problems are similar to our i believe this link should help you (i think we received this directly from Bently but the guy who talked to Bently for us if current away) the download includes ProStructures V8i Object Enabler for NavisWorks Manage and NavisWorks Simulate (08.11.11.87)

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I know what you're saying, I understand that. But if you want the object enabler for Bentley models, then it's back on Bentley to provide the object enabler for it. Prosteel/Structures is an add-on to AutoCAD, and they'll use either the AutoCAD API, or their own code to create these structures, so its back on Bentley.

Ive got this blank DWG with a file size of 4MB... ive ERASE > ALL on all layouts, then PURGED a few times, i cant see any layer filters. The STATUS command says it has 241007 objects... but i cant find or get rid of them.

I ran -PURGE on it which cleared out 17 registered apps, SCALE LIST EDIT, walked it through LAYERWALK, deleted the unused layers, and audited and purged it again, and it is still slightly over 4MB. That is a seriously large seemingly empty file!

Recreate your DWT file. Start a new drawing using acadiso.dwt. Put all the layers and whatever else you need in the drawing and then save it over what ever template (xxx.DWT) you are using. The file has some sort of corruption in it. If acadiso.dwt does not work. Load another default template that you know is clean and then reshape it.

Nice one SLW210, never heard of that before, seems like it should help. It looks to be a PROSTEEL file, had a prosteel dim style in it. When I checked earlier today there were no enablers for Prosteel listed.

You're right, the drawing was created using the ProSteel addon. Regarding the object enablers... can you please explain what installing that might allow me to do? Im not really up to speed with all the behind-the-scenes stuff.

also guys, ive tried WBLOCKing a single line out of the DWG - didnt help. I have also tried SuperPurge and TotalPurge with no luck. I think there might be a few other purge apps i could try.

I don't know I use Prosteel everyday and the Default.dwt is only 60kb. There is something majorly wrong with this template. It needs remaking entirely. This is done easily by following my earlier post. Also if you don't have Prosteel you will not be able to see ANY entities made with Prosteel unless you have the enabler active. You can get it from here: -enabler/

This DWG is not actually the template we use in our office, nor was it created using our template. So I'm not so much concerned about preventing more drawings like this (as the ones we produce are generally Ok), but I would like to try and fix the corrupted ones that have already been made - if possible.

On another note... I did install the object enablers, and I'm afraid they did not allow me to clean the DWG. I think I may have corrupted my ProSteel installation in the process though, I have been getting an error about "KsKernell.dll" being unable to load. Do you know if this is a common error?

I had a quick look at some of those solutions and was a bit bamboozled. I did try and remove a few dictionaries (i think) but that didnt seem to have any effect. dgorsman's solution sound like it could be reduce the file size, but he/she mentions that it should only be done to drawings which are not 'active' ProSteel drawings - which ours are.

This seems to remove some "dictionaries" - which cause the balloon in file size. I have tested this on an empty junk DWG, and it does work. But I am hesitant to try it on an active drawing, as im not really sure what the effects of the code are. And im not sure how much ProSteel relies on these dictionaries.

Another strange point... i tried to remove each dictionary 1 by 1 (to identify which is the cause of the problem), but it seems that I only had success when removing all dictionaries at once. This may have been due to an error made when going through the process. I will test more thoroughly when i have some time.

I do Mechanical Designing and I am a Mechanical Engineer. I have been using Prosteel for 7 years now and I love it. So much faster than Autocad and can detail on the fly with one click. Our productivity has tripled since we started using it. In it's early stages Kiwisoft was the maker of Prosteel and now it has been bought out by Bentley Systems and has become Prostructures V8i Select series 3. I think it has evolved nicely. I have just changed jobs and I am in the process of working on the detailing systems for the new company so they can do turnkey projects. They are really freaking out at the productivity gains in both Modelling and Detailing. On the first day of introducing the systems to them they gave me a $10,000 pay rise. That was so cool. That takes me way past 6 figures +. As for your error message, can't say that I have had that issue before. It sounds quite nasty thou. If the object enabler did not help you that really is strange. If it is a KS_Kernell issue then there must be something horribly wrong with the template or the version of Prosteel you are using. Have you tried to re-establish the template as I said earlier? This solves 90% of Prosteel issues. This time copy the entire contents of the other companies drawing over to one of your templates and resave it. You will have alot more joy.

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