Football Manager 2012 Language Pack Pt
Thomas Merino
Language is very significant. If a player can't speak the same language as his team mates he is much more likely to become unsettled, homesick and ask to leave. Having multiple players who can't speak the language affects team cohesion and gelling so morale and squad harmony won't rise as quickly, play on the pitch will be less cohesive and defensive and goalkeeping mistakes become more likely. It also affects leadership, and having a captain who can't communicate is not good. All this is basic common sense and quite clear in the game if you actually play it.
Between low team cohesion, low tactical knowledge when you just buy a full team, there is no way in hell I or any other sane person has a chance to "see" that it's due to language that something went wrong. Even if I went and bought one player, with no language anyone else in the club speaks and played the same test match 100 times, I fairly sure I would have no statistical significant data to prove language matters.
As with many things in FM, we are 100% dependent on SI setting the record straight, we are purely blind guessing otherwise and the only thing SI has commented on so far is that you risk the player wanting to leave the club due to language.
If you just bought a player with very little knowledge of the language and only he is misplacing passes etc, with the same motivation/morale as the others, it's a big tell that it's him not yet fitting in with obviously language (communication on the field) being a part of that.
Won't a player learn the language without going to course like in previous versions? I think it's just a cosmetic feature and does not really matter at all. I've had a player homesick or not able to adjust to a new country maybe 2 or 3 times at most in all the years I play FM anyway.
so not knowing the language makes a player misplace his passes? so you think if you put pirlo in bundesliga club and he doesn't speak german he would start to misplace his passes? i don't think that talent and on the field abilities of a player are reduced without speaking the language of his teammates.
In FM15 with a journeyman manager, there was consistently a clear improvement of the teams once the local language was learned. In FM16 I'm still waiting to get fluent in English in South Africa, and getting basic hasn't have a result in results, though I feel as if the players are doing the tactics better. However, I have the squad very unhappy and demoralized so there's that stuff compensating the language for results not yet improving.
Can anybody help me with this one. I have a player,19 years old, who failed his intensive language course and became unhappy. Had a conversation in which one of my replies was I would send him on another course. He was happy with this and asked me to arrange it quickly-end of conversation. So I go to training/development and contract tabs and couldn't find anything. I have now looked through the tabs, board request etc still can't find a way to arrange a new course. Anybody know the answer?
Perhaps SI can include a natural intelligence attribute on future releases which would determine how easy/difficult it was for a player to learn a new language. I heard a story that Gabriel at Arsenal could only say hello and goodbye after nearly 6 months of lessons!
The fact that the feature is there implies that it affects team cohesion. Soccer is a team sport, which means communication between players is just as important as communication between you and the players. I remember Arsenal wouldn't play their new defender last year specifically because of the language issue, so it clearly matters at least some. With offense players, it can lower your chance of scoring goals...but with defense players, it can cost you goals, which is an even bigger concern.
For example, if my manager speaks only english, how would he do in team talks in germany? would a german club even hire me in the first place? What about hiring foreign coaches? Does their effectiveness get lowered because they don't speak the language?
I speak a few languages IRL and add them in the game if I remember and the only thing I've noticed is an interview question rẻ not speaking the language. If you speak multiple languages already you get an extra option to say something along the lines of "I can speak loads of languages so should be able to learn this one easy enough"
A Trainer not speaking the native club language is not hat big thing in real as they have Assistants/Players that can translate or they hire a translator for the time at the club until the language is learned or the contract Ends.
Reply to the first post - if you do not speak mother language of the club, they usually ask me on how do I deal with language barrier at the job interview, so this is probably one of the factors based pn which does the club decide whether to hire you or not
Arsne Charles Ernest Wenger OBE (.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-smallfont-size:85%.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-smallfont-size:100%French pronunciation: [aʁsɛn vɛŋɡɛʁ]; born 22 October 1949) is a French former football manager and player who is currently serving as FIFA's Chief of Global Football Development. He was the manager of Arsenal from 1996 to 2018, where he was the longest-serving and most successful in the club's history. His contribution to English football through changes to scouting, players' training and diet regimens revitalised Arsenal and aided the globalisation of the sport in the 21st century.
Born in Strasbourg and raised in Duttlenheim to an entrepreneurial family, Wenger was introduced to football by his father, the manager of the local village team. After a modest playing career, in which he made appearances for several amateur clubs, Wenger obtained a manager's diploma in 1981. Following an unsuccessful period at Nancy in 1987, Wenger joined Monaco; the club won the league championship in 1988. In 1991, Wenger guided Monaco to victory in the Coupe de France. In 1995, he moved to Japan to coach J.League side Nagoya Grampus Eight and won the Emperor's Cup and Japanese Super Cup in his first and only year.
The nickname "Le Professeur" is used by fans and the English press to reflect Wenger's studious demeanour. He is one of the most celebrated managers of his generation, having changed perceptions of the sport and profession in England and abroad. His approach to the game emphasises an attacking mentality, with the aim that football ought to be entertaining on the pitch. Wenger's Arsenal teams were criticised for their indiscipline and naivety; his players received 100 red cards between September 1996 and February 2014, though the team won awards for sporting fair play. At Monaco, Wenger earned a reputation for spotting young talent and developing a youth system, which he carried through at Arsenal.
Arsne Charles Ernest Wenger[2] was born on 22 October 1949 in Strasbourg, Alsace, the youngest of three children born to Alphonse and Louise Wenger. He lived in Duppigheim during the 1950s, but spent most of his time in the neighbouring village of Duttlenheim, 16 km (10 miles) south-west of Strasbourg.[3][4] Arsne's father, Alphonse, like many Alsatians, was conscripted into the German Army by force following Germany's earlier annexation of the French region of Alsace-Lorraine.[5] He was sent to fight on the Eastern Front in October 1944, at the age of 24.[5]
The Wenger family owned an automobile spare parts business and a bistro named La Croix d'Or.[6] In his book, My Life in Red and White, Wenger says the "alcohol, brawling and violence" of the bistro's patrons sparked his early interest in human psychology.[7] His parents had difficulty looking after their children, but Duttlenheim was a village where everyone took care of the young; Wenger compared it in later years to a kibbutz.[6] Before Wenger started school, he expressed himself in the local Alsatian dialect of Low Alemannic German.[8] The primary school which Wenger attended was run by the Catholic Church,[9] and as one of its brightest students, he later was accepted into a secondary school in Obernai.[10]
According to his father, who also managed the village team, Wenger was introduced to football "at about the age of six".[11] He was taken to games in Germany, where he held an affection for Borussia Mnchengladbach.[4] Alsace was an area steeped in religion; Wenger and the village boys often needed to seek permission from the Catholic priest to miss vespers in order to play football.[12]
Because the population of Duttlenheim was short in numbers, it proved difficult to field a team of 11 players of equal ages; Wenger did not play for FC Duttlenheim until the age of 12.[13] Claude Wenger, a teammate of Arsne's, noted his lack of pace as a player, which he made up for with his "ability to guard the ball, [seeming] to have a complete vision of the pitch and having an influence among his team-mates", according to Marcel Brandner, the president of FC Duttlenheim.[5] As a young teenager, he was called Petit; the nickname ceased when he had a growth spurt and broke into FC Duttlenheim's first team, aged 16.[14] The team did not have a coach to prepare the players tactically, rather a person who supervised training sessions.[15] Wenger took it upon himself to manage the side, with Claude stating "Arsne wasn't the captain and yet he was. It was 'You do this, you do that, you do this, you do that.' He was the leader".[15]
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