Hello, 'simple' timer rearm question.

[Ag Paya]

with rules, how to make a rearm timer ?
send ' power on' to tasmota > on is maintened for x secondes then goes to off (simple)
but rearm ???

power on > on is maintened for x secondes, if power on again, the timer is reset to x secondes again, and each time power on is send to tasmota

i found no way to do this !

[Justin Adie]

Depends on the method of turning the power on.  Assuming it's a rocker or momentary switch decouple the switch from the relay. Then use the switch as the trigger for a rule.  

In the terminal

Rule1 on switch1#state =1 do backlog ruletimer1 30; power 1 1 endon on rules#timer=1 do power 1 0 Endon

Switchmode1 15

Rule1 1

You will need the switch and relay configured as switch1 and relay1 respectively 

If you are using a rocker/toggle switch change the trigger to switch1#state do 

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[Ag Paya]

hello, thanks for your answer, but the ordre 'power on'  is sent by http, so 'switch' is not usable here i believe.

[Ag Paya]

what i have tried without succes:
rule1 ON Power#ON  DO RuleTimer1 20 ENDON ON Rules#Timer=1 DO Power1 0 ENDON; Rule1 1

or
rule1 ON Power#command  DO RuleTimer1 20 ENDON ON Rules#Timer=1 DO Power1 0 ENDON; Rule1 1
or

Rule1 ON Power1#State=1 DO backlog RuleTimer1 20; Power1 ON ENDON ON Rules#Timer=1 DO Power1 OFF ENDON; Rule1 1

[Justin Adie]

What is producing the http power1 on command?  

Try creating a virtual relay and attaching that to your automations/http commands.  So power1 = virtual relay; power2 = real relay.

Then use the rule

Rule1 on Power1#On do event startTimer endon

Rule1+ on event=startTimer do backlog ruletimer1 20; power2 1; power1 0 endon 

rule1+ on rules#timer=1 do power2 0 endon

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[Ag Paya]

ahk script:

SendCommand("Power1 ON")

SendCommand(command)
{
    global deviceIP
    if (!deviceIP) {
        TrayTip, Erreur, Adresse IP du périphérique non définie !, 5, 1
        return
    }

    url := "http://" . deviceIP . "/cm?cmnd=" . command
    maxAttempts := 3  ; Nombre maximum de tentatives
    attempt := 0
   
    while (attempt < maxAttempts)
    {
        attempt++
        result := SendHttpRequest(url)

        if (result != "ERROR") {
            ;~ static TimerCount := 0
            TimerCount++

            if (TimerCount >= 8) {
                TrayTip, Sonoff, Rearmement du timer `n(toutes les: %IntervalleOrdreSec% secondes) , 1, 1
                ;~ TimerCount := 0
            } else {
                TrayTip, Tasmota Response, % "Commande: " . command . "`nRéponse: " . result, 1, 1
            }
            return  ; Sortir de la fonction si la commande a réussi
        }

        ; Si l'erreur persiste, attendre 2 secondes avant de réessayer
        Sleep, 2000
        TrayTip, Tasmota, Échec de la commande après %attempt% tentatives: %command%, 1, 1
    }

    ; Si toutes les tentatives échouent, afficher une erreur
    TrayTip, Tasmota, Échec DEFINITIF de la commande après %maxAttempts% tentatives: %command%, 1, 1
}

SendHttpRequest(url)
{
    try {
        WebRequest := ComObjCreate("WinHttp.WinHttpRequest.5.1")
        WebRequest.Open("GET", url, false)
        WebRequest.SetTimeouts(5000, 5000, 5000, 5000)  ; Timeout

        WebRequest.Send()
        result := WebRequest.ResponseText  ; Stocke la réponse

        if (result = "") {
            return "NO RESPONSE"  ; Empêche d’avoir une valeur vide
        }

        return result  ; Retourne la réponse réelle
    }
    catch e {
        return "ERROR"
    }
}

dont understand "Try creating a virtual relay"

[Ag Paya]

what i understand (and what is stopping simple logic) is that " Power1#On" is not recognised if power1 is already ON. So no action is triggered

[Justin Adie]

Yes - the triggers are for when a state changes

Donc pour ceci, dans le code dessous, mieux de formuler la commande http comme:

event%20startTimer

Et pour les règles dans tasmota

rule1 on event#startTimer do backlog ruletimer1 20; power1 1 endon

rule1+ on rules#timer=1 do power1 0 endon

Et initialises le règle

Rule1 1

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[Philip Knowles]

You haven't really explained what you are trying to achieve. There are multiple ways to achieve a 'rearm' but it depends what you wanting to do.

For instance you could use PulseTime and then use the output going off to start a RuleTimer or Delay to turn it back on.

There's also BlinkTime.

So, please explain what you are actually trying to achieve so we can stop guessing.

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[Ag Paya]

Oui j'ai contourné le problème comme ça:
Pseudo code:
La commande 'power on'  est remplacée par timer1 à 20 sec
Avec :
rulet1 imer1 20; power1 1 endon

rule1+ on rules#timer=1 do power1 0

Mais c'est frustrant de ne pas arriver à coder un logique aussi simple !

[Philip Knowles]

It looks like you just want to turn the relay off after 20 seconds

Pulsetime 120

Power1 1

And the relay will switch off after 20 seconds - no rule needed

If you want to sometimes have the relay on all the time and at other times want it to switch off after seconds you can use BlinkTime.

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Oui j'ai contourné le problème comme ça:

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[Justin Adie]

The OP was wanting a solution where every on command would reset the off event to 20 seconds after the on command.  So 

On. 0 secs

On 18 secs

On 30 secs

Off 50 secs

[Ag Paya]

Hello
Thank for trying help me.
A schéma.

Ordre............x..................x..........................

Power...........xxxxxxxxx....xxxxxxxxx.............

Ordre...........x...........x.....................x.......................

Power.......... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.......xxxxxxxxx..........

So 'simple ' rearm timer.

I will look for ' Pulsetime' thanks

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[Ag Paya]

hello

'Pulsetime' seems to do the trick without rule

great

thanks to all

ps : dont know how to make 'resolved'

Sans virus.www.avast.com

[Philip Knowles]

Glad it worked

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