- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 11/17/2020.
Topics discussed.Add reboot-cause telemetry - Sujin Kang
- Can this design support unexpected hardware/software reboots? Ans: This design does not support un-expected device failures
- What is the difference between gen timestamp vs timestamp in state DB data? Ans: timestamp is the actual hardware reboot time, where as gen_timestamp is when the event generated
- PR is available for review - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/669/files
PCIe monitor service - Sujin Kang + Arun
- Why do you need separate service when there is PMON util service?
- Suggestion - display only non zero PCIe AES counters
- Suggestion - provide mapping to pCIe code to devices.
- Is there a support consolidated "system is ready" by checking all the components?
- PR is available for review - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/634/files
SONiC Application Extension Infra - Stepan BOn Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 3:54 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 11/03/2020.
Topics discussed.SONiC Application Extension Infra - Stepan B
- How does the design support third party applications which are agnostic to SONiC?
- How does it support any SONiC 3rd party application which wants to use database
- How much this design covers in Phase 2 and what will be covered in phase 3?
- Can this design support features spread across multiple dockers ex: DHCP & mgmt framework - No
- Can the manifest file make it optional?
- How does the design cover the docker options such as limits ?
- What is the suggestion to store these manifests? >> Docker Hub
PR is out for review - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/blob/066a6e28cddcae8488b9b82f1b6b70567cd3c48b/doc/sonic-application-extention/sonic-application-extention-hld.mdThanks,-MadhuOn Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 8:48 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 10/27/2020.
Topics discussed.MACSec HLD - Ze Gan
- What is the scope of HLD to support macsec ? Is this support limited to switch-switch or host-switch or both modes? (Is this static macSec or 802.1X)
- How to configure a MacSec chip in case of a Real switch? Does this agnostic control plane or linux? Is there any special configuration needed to enable a macsec chip in Real Switch?
- Do you have any data about interoperability between wpa_supplicants with other NOS's - Testing involved
- Shouldn't be a perf impact if you run wpa_supplicants on individual interfaces?Should it run per switch global level?
- Can macSec support per lag/port channel? Ans: macSec should program per port level.
- Can phase 1 support the rekey threshold? What is the difference in phase 1 & phase 2 mentioned in HLD?
- How does HLD handle macSec primary vs fallback scenarios?
- How does HLD prevent cipher mis-configurations? recommendation - asic_capabilities/ CIPHER TLV
- Do you have data with wpa_applicants perf w.r.t memory/cpu ? which version did you tested - 2.9
- Did you consider optimizing wpa_supplicants? zcai from Juniper have some thoughts to share here.
- comments on config_db - send_sci - must be true for macsec pkts in switch, for hosts it must be false
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 9:02 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 10/20/2020.
Topics discussed.Thanks,
- Release 202012 release tracking discussion - Tracking page will be updated with status
- 202012 PR and code review ownership discussed.
- Request PR owners to send out a note to the community mailing list as soon as PR is raised.
- HLD guidelines discussed.
-MadhuOn Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 9:15 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 10/13/2020.
Topics discussed.SONiC Reproducible Build design - Xuhui
- Shouldn't version control be significant overhead? No - There is a version control file which will take care of dependencies
- Where the version control file is located in the code repo? It is at Docker level right now.
- For instance, If I want to bring a new Python package (it has dependencies) in the docker file it conflicts with the existing one. How to solve it ? You can disable the version check temporarily.
- Does version check framework check dependencies per branch ex: 200911 or 202006? Yes, the version check is per branch to freeze the requirements
- What stage do you freeze on the version? when you move from one debian version to another? We need to regenerate the version file
- Does the build system automatically take care of pulling packages from local storage when the remote website is down ? yes
- How does the framework support for golang libs and dependencies? Not right now, will be included.
- How does version control framework integrate with existing rules file configurations? Do we maintain both version files?
PR is out for review - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/blob/5f3f688b2a6df153160f6f915777376d6b8bfac7/doc/sonic-build-system/SONiC-Reproduceable-Build.mdGeneral
- New SONiC HLD Template defined with guidelines, which is available https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/blob/master/doc/hld_template.md
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:01 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 10/06/2020.
Topics discussed.SONiC TPID Configuration Support - Gen Chiang
- How does design handle joining ports to a port channel where the port is already associated with some non-default TPID? How to preserve TPID when leaving the port channel?
- Does SONiC support Q-in-Q ? No
- How does an application know what are the supported TPID's by ASIC? Is there any SAI support to pull these capabilities? Should it be part of switch capabilities in addition to TPID port & port channel capability?
- PR is out https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/681/files
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 9:11 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 09/29/2020.
Topics discussed.SONiC FW Utility - Sujin
- Does the design support Phy / BMC firmware upgrade support? >> BMC vendor dependent
- How does the design support component dependency? Ex: Several CPLD's with different versions?
- How to check the dependency check ? >> vendor task file
- Is fw utility part of SONiC build system? No
- Does the auto update perform all the components at once ? yes
- Do support single tarball from vendors with all the components & dependencies ? yes
- PR is oit https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/blob/72a0845dc176729877e7d9a7acfd59b84938b9a0/doc/fwutil/fwutil.md
- OCP Tech week - Nov
- OCP presentations ready - Oct 17th
-MadhuOn Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:09 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 09/22/2020.
Topics discussed.Kubernetes-Support for SONiC - Renuka
- Should we relax the post start/pre exit mandate for third party containers, which don't have SONiC dependency.
- How does iit solve K8s master HA issues?
- what is the container naming conventions/ standards
- How does it solve manifest versioning issues?
Workgroup will be started soon.Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:18 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 09/08/2020.
Topics discussed.Distributed VOQ HLD - Suresh/Srikanth/Eshwaran
- Can this VOQ design will bring up iBGP sessions automatically using link local ip addresses? yes [full mesh connectivity]
- Does the chassis design run several instances of FRR to run routing protocols ? yes
- What is the benefit you see running a network inside a chassis? Can this be complex to manage the network inside a chassis?
- Proposal: discuss about inbarnd recycle port & inband vlan? Do you support both?
- Is there any special config required on inband ports? yes, it is described in HLD.
- Design describes linux neigh table & sai neighbor table will not be in sync for inband management. Can this any side effects on other features ex: NAT/Conntrack etc..
- More discussion joins chassis sub group calls.
SONiC Console Switch HLD - Jing kanThanks,-MadhuOn Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:26 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 09/01/2020.
Topics discussed.SONiC Console Switch HLD - Jing kan
- Is the design support friendly sonic CLI in addition to cfg utility? >> right now show commands available AI Jing kan will look into it
- Does the design supports command line tools to change baud rate in local devices? yes
- Is the design support automatic flow control match to local to remote switches? No
- How does the design handle console port conflicts with different drivers using the same name? - Check out uDev rules to avoid this name conflict
- Does the design support if the console switch is not supported by USB?
- driver -> device mapping using device name in console port object
- Can this design write ps polling (line busy) on to state_db? Suggest to write to state if not done.
- Is this data should be part of a tech support dump
- Does picom get prompt for the interactive CLI?
- Can Multi users connect to the same remote device? No support/use case
PR is out for review feedback- https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/blob/126a4f7af8cadd8451b22bd80227c07c11452a63/doc/console/SONiC-Console-Switch-High-Level-Design.mdThanks,-MadhuOn Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 9:00 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks,MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 08/25/2020.Topics discussed.
- uDev rules design for terminal Server - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/654
- Warm reboot - Service container warm restart - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/665
- Which component decides the ordering during warm reboot >>>ans: warm reboot scripts
- Proposals : code cleanup on warm reboot scripts [encapsulate shutdown/recover logic into service scripts instead of warm reboot scripts ]
- What is the role of service scripts w.r.t fast/cold and warm reboot scenarios.
- Are there any exceptions to this proposal? syncD pre-shut is only needed for warm-reboot.
- Join the warm reboot subgroup to discuss more on this proposal.
-MadhuOn Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:17 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 08/18/2020.Topics discussed.
- VOQ system design
- What is the resolution behind selecting iBGP to run?
- What is the difference between multi-ASIC system vs VOQ design (both share similarities)
- Does global DB falls into single point failure? yes, there is no redundancy support in current release.
- Is the IBGP runs on same VRF?
- How does ARP learning works? Does it support Vlans?
- How does the VOQ system handle route fair sharing?
Discussion will be continued next week. Stay tuned.Please find the PR's below to provide review -Thanks,-MadhuOn Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:03 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 08/11/2020.
Topics discussed.
- SONiC Entity MIB Extension HLD Review https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/657
- SONiC 202012 planning & ownerships
- Watch out for 202012 release planning & feature design/code ownerships
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 08/04/2020.
Topics discussed.
- SONiC 202012 planning [Smaller group meeting who contribute to 202012 release]
- 202012 release plan & design/code PR ownerships
- Watch out for 202012 release wiki
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 07/28/2020.
Topics discussed.Code coverage tool Gcov - Ruijie / Cheng
- What is the image size increase with Gcov coverage tool?
- What is the goal of a code coverage tool? Are we enforcing SoNic developers ?
- Do you have coverage for SONiC code?
- Do you have coverage data from SONiC containers?
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:38 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 07/21/2020.
Topics discussed.Thanks,Multi-ASIC design review - Aravind/Suvarna/Judy
- Do you see any perf issues having several multiple processes running for multi-asic?
- How to configure multi-asic ? >> There is a CLI planned.
- Multi-ASIC ?? Does it support multi vendor integration ? ex: MLNX & BRCM etc.. >> No . Multi -ASIC same ASIC with different vendor implementations..
- Do you have any scaling numbers ? No limit
- What is your test topology? Is this a chassis based or pizza box solution ? >>> test platform - 6 ASICs , not a chassis based system. It's a pizza box setup.
- How does this design handle warm-reboot? >> Not looked yet
- Is this container run only with is only network namespaces alone? yes
- There were two proposals on backend ASIC;'s BGP vs vlan-cross-connect ?? Which one should this design consider?
- How does it handle Error handling when fabric is broken - Ex: one ASIC doesn't come >> There is no staging, all other ASIC's will come up except the failed ASIC
- How does it assign the route mac to different ASIC?
- Does this design support tunnelling ? - >> Not right now
- Suggest to check Udev for system initialisation?
- What is the significance of ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 0? multi asic run on bridge mode.
- What is the communication between namespaces (front end vs backend)? netDev interfaces for front panel to backend ports .(docker 2 docker)vEth interfaces
- Is it mini grapth is amust for multi ASIC ? No, you can generate confgi_db.json and use it
- Having a dynamic breakout etc , Do you think moving port.ini to platform.ini files?
- Do you consider multi-db with multi ASIC?
- Why do need multiple db's, you could have have one db with different ? >> extend to multiple platforms (pizza boxes)
-MadhuOn Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:47 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 07/14/2020.
Topics discussed.202006 CLI configuration guide updates
- BFD - Ben will check BFD FRR related CLI commands
- Build improvements - No CLI
- Bulk API for route - No CLI, configuration update make it default
- CoPP config & Mgmt - CLI not planned for this release, CLI phase 2 - Dell
- D-Bus - No CLI
- Dynamic port breakout - CLI, config update - LKND
- Egress shaping - No CLI, How to configure it? BRCM
- FW utils extension/SSD upgrade - CLI will update, wrapper for config & show - MLNX
- Gearbox - CLI/Config BRCM to update
- sonic-mgmt-framework - separate CLI document - Ben
- Platform DDF - no CLI/config, offline tools
- Port mirroring - config should be update/ CLI - Done
- porting M VRF Debian 10 - no CLI
- proxy ARP - CLI needs MLNX to update config wiki
- System health and system LED - No CLI
Multi-ASIC design review - Hasan
- Do you see any perf issues having several multiple processes running for multi-asic?
- How to configure multi-asic ? >> There is a CLI planned.
- Multi-ASIC ?? Does it support multi vendor integration ? ex: MLNX & BRCM etc.. >> No . Multi -ASIC same ASIC with different vendor implementations..
- Do you have any scaling numbers ? No limit
- What is your test topology? Is this a chassis based or pizza box solution ? >>> test platform - 6 ASICs , not a chassis based system. It's a pizza box setup.
- How does this design handle warm-reboot? >> Not looked yet
- Is this container run only with is only network namespaces alone? yes
- There were two proposals on backend ASIC;'s BGP vs vlan-cross-connect ?? Which one should this design consider?
- How does it handle Error handling when fabric is broken - Ex: one ASIC doesn't come >> There is no staging, all other ASIC's will come up except the failed ASIC
- How does it assign the route mac to different ASIC?
- Does this design support tunnelling ? - >> Not right now
Here is the PR to provide feedback - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/blob/2f320430c8199132c686c06b5431ab93a86fb98f/doc/multi_asic/SONiC_multi_asic_hld.md>> More discussions followed next week. stay tuned..Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:59 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 07/07/2020.
Topics discussed.
- 202006 release update - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/wiki/Release-Progress-Tracking-202006
- 202006 release branch cut on 06/30
- 202006 configuration guide - will be discussed in next community meeting
- 202006 quality - will be discussed in test work group every wednesday
- 202012 release planning - below is the content and will be updated wiki link shortly
AAA
ACL rate limit
BFD for FRR - cherry pick in next two weeks
Config Replace - Not clear
Consistent ECMP
Container warm restart
COnfig mgmt for CoPP
FRR NBI
D-Bus - review pending (Can be cherry picked)
Dynamic headroom
BGP UnNumbered
PyTest 90%
Radius HLD
DOckers update with Debian
PDK - call for review for ODM's
Retrospect & 202012 Release goal settings- 202012 release feature list freeze - 7/30
- 202012 release code review assignment - 8/30
- 202012 PR deadline - 11/01
Thanks,MadhuOn Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:42 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks,
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 06/23/2020.
Topics discussed.
- 202006 release progress
Please find following wiki for 202006 release for the feature list - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/wiki/Release-Progress-Tracking-202006Miscellaneous:
- Issue triage - Every other wednesday, requesting issue owners should present for sonic issue triage
-MadhuOn Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:08 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 06/09/2020.
Topics discussed.Enhancement to Optical transceiver model - Dell
- Why did the design choose a plugin approach for Optical Transceivers? Ans: extensible
- Community feedback:- Though plugin approach is elegant, many vendors have difficulty to implement and validate, it would be nice to solve this problem in a common platform (90% possible).
- Can it be solved using a common platform and if any vendor specific (minimal) make it extendable by different ways (ex: configurations/jinja templating/ plugin etc..)? An optical transceiver working group will be started soon.
- Can the design support DD memory map parsing ? Let's discuss in the working group what to solve in common platform and what else need to extend through plugin or other means
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 8:06 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 06/09/2020.Topics discussed.PDDF (Platform Driver Development Framework)- BRCM
- Are there any examples to understand how PDDF is different from classic/sonic platform API 1.0 ?
- Did you try PDDF API's outside BRCM? Ans : yes ex: Quanta/Inventec / Accton etc.
- Is the above PDDF implementation available publicly? Ans: It is OEM's decision to make it public.
- Can PDDF manage MACSEC based components? Ans: No. MacSEC would be managed by SDK.
Thanks,-MadhuOn Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:14 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 06/02/2020.
Topics discussed.SONiC PDDF - BRCMPR is out for review - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/blob/3d2e5e66e05bcce0a64f5ad077b96ae2006527fd/doc/ipv6/ipv6_link_local.md
- Does this design supports IPv4 un numbered? No, it is only for BGP auto addressing use case
- What is Ipv4 un numbered ? It is a separate feature will use loopback
- Can the feature be renamed BGP un numbered to BGP auto Ipv6 addresses?
- Why do convert Ipv4/rfc5549 routes nexthop to Ipv6 linklocal? Let's keep it Ipv4 link local 169.254.x.x/24 in SoNic similar to industry.
- Can BGP auto IPv6 interfaces support on sub interfaces ? Not tested yet
- Why do disable Ipv6 for BGP auto IPv6 addressing ? The reason - In order to avoid Ipv6 RA's unnecessary on L2 networks . May not need generating interfaces on all the several interfaces
- Will the design supports mulitple vlans with ipv6 link local?
- Is there any global Ipv6 address?
- Is radv db (router advertisements) is used for BGP auto IP ? No linux/frr learns the neighborsCommunity suggested to keep Ipv6 default enabled in sonic for backward compatibility.
- Does this design provide any knob to configure I2ME/128 FE80::/10 catch all route? No
- How does it handle for vlan interface case ?
- How do know when to delete IP2ME routes? If any interface has no refcount - orchagent clean it up
System health monitoring - Kebo
- Is system health monitor deamon periodic interval configurable?
- How to determine critical service -Not in the scope
- Do you write system health data to DB? - data is already written to DB by PMON & Monit
- How about writing system health summary data in state db? >>> Joe/Kebo will get back on it
- Json output support for command output? >>> Jeo/Kebo will get back on it.
PR is out for review - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/blob/bb9651622d7fd1f851487dae7f03b6c383985150/doc/system_health_monitoring/system-health-HLD.mdThanks,-MadhuOn Fri, May 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 05/26/2020.
Topics discussed.EVPN HLD - BRCM
- When is the fpmsyncd PR available for review? >> will be out this week
- Does warm-reboot need to keep the mac sequence number?
- When will Broadcom SAI support available for BGP EVPN? >> BRCM will come back on this
- Where do see test cases for this feature? >> sonic-mgmt
- Is anycast gateway support covered in HLD? yes
- What is the reason behind L2 multi tenancy not supported? Is this a limitation with SONiC?
- what factor determines the EVPN scalability requirements ? is it ASIC or FRR or any othe component?
- Any dependencies with Linux kernel version?
Thanks,-MadhuThanks,MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 05/19/2020.Topics discussed.Dynamic Headroom Calculation HLD - MLNX
- How does design helps for ASIC vendors for custom headroom calculations?
- Does all the ports are impacted by changing one port configuration?
- Is there a way to turn off headroom calculation using network flag through cfgDB?
- Can the design provide provision to skip traffic ports during headroom changes cfg push?
- SAI_PORT_MAX_HEADROOM is this a read only attribute? is it per port or PG? it is per Port ?
- What will happens when the ports delete and create ?
- Can we specify IPG/cell size in bytes ?
- Since introducing new app table, How does it keep track dependency on APP DB changes on backends?
- What is the motivation behind Lua Scripts for headroom calculations instead python?
- How to handle dynamic port breakouts?
Kindly add if anything missing here.-MadhuOn Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:39 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 05/12/2020.Topics discussed.Config Replace feature HLD - BRCM
- SONiC configLet does similar job JSON Patch, can it be leverage code. Please refer https://github.com/Azure/sonic-utilities/blob/master/scripts/configlet
- Does the config replace uses SWSS SDK? yes
- Feedback - this PR great,can be split into multiple PRs following reasons
- Most sonic daemon are not designed to receive updates from config updates?
- SYNC support at Table level vs Attribute level
- It is good to have config replace contract [pre-replace-post] so that no feature will miss it?
- Does the feature call out dependency graph on the config change events?
- How does sonic-mgmt-framework handles config replace feature today?
- How does the design validates JSON Patch?
- Does it support revert on config failures?
Thanks,-MadhuOn Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:05 AM Ben Gale <ben....@broadcom.com> wrote:Madhu/All,As discussed on the call, the base 4K VLAN scaling changes were PR'd a year ago: -Thanks,BenOn Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:57 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:--
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 05/05/2020.
Topics discussed.MC-LAG Enhancements - BRCM
- Do we have yang model for this feature?
- Can you upstream 4k vlan bug fixes done to sonic?
- How does isolation group works? do we add all mclag ports into group?
- What if platforms doesn't support isolation groups? what is the fallback mechanism?
- How does SONiC know about platform capabilities w.r.t to isolation groups vs ACL ?
- Why do need new app tables fro MC-LAG?
- Update design section with platform capability check w.r.t ACL/isolation groups?
Firmware Utils - MLNXVirtual Summit
- May 12th
- 10:51 Dave Maltz Key Note
- 11:20-12 PM live session networking
- May 13th - Hardware presentations
- May 14th - Software presentations
- Pre-recorded sessions
- Symposium
Thanks,-MadhuOn Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 6:44 AM zhenghui cai <caizh...@gmail.com> wrote:An even more serious question we need to answer for this FGNHG is that do we have the enforcement that kernel routing table would be consistent with FIB programming on ASICs.If this implementation is changing FIB but not reflecting back to kernel (i.e. routing stack), this will be the first case that violating the current model.On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:21 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:--
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 04/28/2020.
Topics discussed.Fine grained ECMP hashing - Anish
- Can this design supports use case like wildcard/catch all ecmp entry?
- Is it possible to integrate with ECMP capabilities of the ASIC in terms of bucket size and number of groups?
- Can CRM module integrate with finegrained ECMP ? Ans: check SAI support for CRM
- Can this design support use case like ordered/unordered/finegrained sets of ECMP groups? Ans: should bring up in SAI discussions
- More discussions will be continued..
Kernel programming improvements - NetLink API - [Naveen - BRCM]
- What is motivation behind the NetLinkAPI? Don't existing LibNl support achieve this?
- Why NetLink API over LibNL ? Design should be added with few justification
- List out the missing commands from LibNl? will LibNl patch should solve this problem?
- More discussions will be continued..
Thanks,-MadhuOn Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:58 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:More details checkout the schedule https://www.opencompute.org/summit/global-summit/schedule
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 04/21/2020.
Topics discussed.Management Framework -2 - Anand/Partha/Sachin [BRCM]
- Does this design covers authentication workflows? - It will be cover under RBAC design PR
- How does it integrate with HamD & tacacs/radius - Lookout for RBAC PR
- Provide some example how to use CVL for custom validations?
- Do you have REST performance numbers to share to community?
- Will the design provide what improvements done w.r.t rest validations & performance?
- Will the rest server supports pagination?
- Does management framework allows sonic cli & ISCLI intertwined? -config made through sonic cli shows up in ISCLI viceversa?
- What are the major changes with framework 2
- Multi DB changes
- decouple telemetry
- upgrade openAPI spec 3.0 to support yang stmt, union, yang constriants etc.
- klish -> moved away from client / generic client libCurl
- Telemetry - goModule support
- notification and version support
Discussion will be continued next week too. The PR is out for feedback - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/550#Virtual Summit
- OCP virtual summit Registration remainder + high level schedule
- May 12 - Live panel + sonic talks (10- 11:30)
- May 13 - Hardware related
- May 14 - sonic software
- May 15 - Symposium
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 9:44 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 04/14/2020.
Topics discussed.D-BUS - Mike[DELL]
- Why Dbus used for ztp and why not control panel aclD?
- How to secure the users shouldn't mis use the critical host access to commands like reboot? Can you provide some guidelines around it?
- How does host communicate to ex: reboot/warm reboot execution status to clients (containers issued commands to host)? How does D-Bus helps here?
- Will the design provide some infrastructure level audit mechanism who does what w.r.t host commands like reboot/warm reboot etc.
- Why D-Bus used specific listed services/activities alone, why can't it use for all the services? Can you add some guidelines to the document?
Virtual Summit
- OCP virtual summit registration - https://www.opencompute.org/summit/global-summit/registration
- May 13-14 sonic hardware/software technical sessions - https://www.opencompute.org/summit/global-summit/schedule
- May 15 - student symposium
- Detail available Virtual Summit Schedule updated
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:27 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 04/06/2020.
Topics discussed.AAA Enhancements - Martin [DELL]
- How to deal with Redis failures w.r.t account management?
- What is the target sonic customer deployments trying to address here?
- How do we protect the account creations from docker/applications like sonic-mgmt-framework or any other applications? Do you have any suggestions?
- Can this design support Radius based account management? Ans: It seems there is a PR from BRCM
- Today SONiC has Tacacs, what are the improvements expect from this HLD?
- How does the design handles multiple component failures? Ex: HAMD, REDIS, TACACS etc
- Can hamD decoupled from sonic-mgmt-framework?
202006 RoadmapThanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 9:07 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 03/31/2020.
Topics discussed.Proposal for System Health for LED settings - Liat (MLNX)
- Can this design consider multiple system LED's? AI Liat
- How do you test and quality LED management? Ans: Unit testing
- Is it possible to integrate with Monit for docker/process critical monitoring? Ans : Yes
- What is the suggestions for BMC systems ? Ans: this design is not for BMS based systems
- Can this alert/syslog messages duplicate to SNMP traps? Ans: It seems SONiC don't have traps today
- Can this design support system ready status? AI Liat (ASIC/vendor specific APIs)
- Is this design provide any port level LED blink functionality? AI Liat (ASIC/Vendor specific)
- This design should take care the fact that syslog format shouldn't be break BMC messaging/ extra work for BMC based systems ?
Non Technical
- OCP virtual summit - May
- Pre-recorded talk - deadline by this friday.
- Virtual booths - video recording of Demo [OCP will play demos several multiple months.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:26 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 03/24/2020.
Topics discussed.Port Mirroring Rupesh Kumar (BRCM)1. Do you have a data model to support this feature? Please list out in HLD AI Rupesh2. Can this feature support OpenConfig data model? No3. How does the design handles both ACL & port based mirror enabled? Can we expect two copies ? AI Rupesh4. Can this design support config validations? AI Rupesh5. How does the design handles link events w.r.t to activate inactivate sessions?6. If platform doesn't support SPAN/ERSPAN features what is the behavior? Does this design consider SAI capability check? AI Rupesh/BRCM7. What are the tests written and How are these test cases organised / which repos will be used? AI - Rupesh8. What are the SAI attributes used in the feature.9. Can we police SPAN/ERSPAN sessions? AI RupeshThanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 9:14 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 03/17/2020.
Topics discussed.Sonic Qos Schedular & Shaping - Michael (BRCM)
- Can shaping config support on sub interfaces/ port channels ? No
- Do we have a plan to support vlan/port channel as many DC supports this use case?
- Why do need SAI_SCHEDULER_GROUP_ATTR_SCHEDULAR_PROFILE_ID when SAI_QUEUE_SCHEDULAR_PROFILE_ID available ? Ans: schedular_group will help for finer granularity.
- Do you have plan to publish spytest cases with feature? yes
- How to configure these new shaping configuration? is this coexists with config_db? Ans : new shaping attributes supported through sonic-mgmt-framework open-config model
- What are the shaping constraints w.r.t DPB (dynamic port breakout) ?
- Can shaping applied to CPU queues? suggestion - CoPP is the right place to configure the CPU queues?
- Can it be possible to configure shaping in percentage so that DPB can dynamically change the shaping per port?
- Can this shaping applied on operation port (profile applied and under traffic) ? No CLI to configure that today
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 03/10/2020.
Topics discussed.Monitoring and auto-Mitigating unhealthy containers n SONiC - Joe
- How Monit service is different from Supervisord? Monit does track and alert every 5 min, so user will not miss any, where as supervisord alerts only once.
- Can Monit service monitor resource usage? >> possible
- How does Monit service detects dockers come online dynamically? >> right now it's driven by confiig file
- Can we make Thresholds human readable? Can it be possible to calculate threshold in % values ? >> Joe will look into itt
- How can we determine these throsholds ? ex: How much threshold shall we fix for a BGP container? >> Joe will look into it
- Can Monit service help user specify docker system quotas? >> no
- Can database is consistent after auto restart ? >> Not right now. Monit service provide provision to disable features from auto-restart ex: database
Thanks,-MadhuOn Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:09 PM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks,
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 02/25/2020.
Topics discussed.Gear Box Design - BRCM
- How does this design support for dynamic loading/discovering of external phy
- Why do pick multiple versions of phy-syncd? why can't glorify the existing syncd?
- Can vendors cherry-pick one synd instance out of all the instances/ is this possible switch off other syncd instances ?
- It is advised GearBox design should discuss with breakout/sub port work groups?
- Can this design supports dynamically updating eeprom / firmware ?
- How does this design treats system side vs line card link events ?
-MadhuOn Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 9:27 AM MS Reddy <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 02/11/2020.
Topics discussed.SONiC Line card Hot Swap - Inspur
- How does it detect line card is broken ? Line card status must have [present/not present/ abnormal]
- How does this line card event detected by sonic ? is it event or poll based?
- I/O module / Linecard type detection is HW based detection
- List out the I/O or line cards supported in the design?
- How do you initilize the ASIC to line card type
- It should be discussed w.r.t sku/ dynamic breakout and gear box features.
Inspur team work with Xin to have sub group meeting to discuss more on the interested parties.Pre-OCP registration remainderThanksMadhuOn Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:09 AM <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 02/04/2020.Topics discussed.Debian 10 buster kernel upgrade 202006 release
- 201911 release bugs triage - watch out for bug comments and provide your update.
- OCP pre-summit workshop
ThanksOn Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:43 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 01/14/2020.Topics discussed.
- OCP pre-summit workshop - watch out for invitation from EventBrite
- Hackathon - watch out for invitation
- New workgroups - watch out for workgroup page
- Round table for workgroup meetups
- Next release - 202006
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 8:57 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 12/17/2019.Topics discussed:PCI_E Diagnostics:
- How does it help? the feature captures all the pci_e components in pcie.yaml config file and verify the components on demand.
- How is different from lspci? the feature aggregates the lspci command info and capture components list in pcie.yaml file for component check
- When does the pcie.yaml generated? Platform shall generate the file when there is any change.
- Is the feature generic for all the platforms ? yes, there is specific file for each platform and the platform owners should update it.
- Can the feature distinguish critical/non critical PCI_e components? can this be included in the design ?
- Next meeting - Jan 7th.
-MadhuOn Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 9:18 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:- OCP planning :MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 12/10/2019.Topics discussed:Release 201910 tracking status:
- ZTP - Ready to merge #599 is failed to pass tests. (failed tests are vs related.)
- MGMT Framework - Should support mgmt docker can be turned off / not build at all. Ready to merge.
- PDDF - on review pending
- STP/PVSP - Pending on Jenkins jobs.
- L3 performance - Merged
- L2 performance - ready to merge
- BFD - one more review needed and sync up with FRR upstream / feature on or off capabilities(next releases) - BRCM will share test results for review
- NAT - SAI dependency, BRCM will work with SAI community to close on this next few months (next release) - BRCM will share test results for review (No automation tests)
MeetupHackathonTo be focussed Topics - Community should focus on topics such as test improvementsVenue - LNKDOn Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:11 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:Discussions will be continued next week.MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 12/03/2019.Topics discussed:Release 201910 tracking status:
- ZTP - [Approvals Pending] - Guohan approved it
- BFD - one more review needed and sync up with FRR upstream / feature on or off capabilities(next releases) - BRCM will share test results for review
- NAT - SAI dependency, BRCM will work with SAI community to close on this next few months (next release)
- STP/PVST - Build Job in Zenkins should be included
- MGMT Framework - Short group to review the changes / Alibaba provided comments on gNMI bring together with mgmt container.
ThanksOn Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:11 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 11/26/2019.Topics discussed:Release 201910 tracking status:
- ZTP - Mostly ready BRCM & Dell will take a look PR and close it
- BFD - one more review needed and sync up with FRR upstream / feature on or off capabilities(next releases)
- NAT - SAI dependency, BRCM will work with SAI community to close on this next few months
- L2 enhancements - extra file should be removed from SAI REDIS PR.
- MultiDB - Need to raise PR with all new changes
- MGMT Framework - Short group to review the changes
Announcements:
- Deadline for OCP participation extended- Dec 5th.
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 9:15 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 11/19/2019.
Topics discussedThermal Control Design - MLNXReview (Q & A):
- Can the design support to integrate with thirdparty ? ex: BCM enabled CPU /thermal controls? yes
- Can this new daemon enabled/disabled? yes
- Is it possible to select few objects (fan/cpu/thermal) ? yes (all/none)
- How about supporting ASIC Internal Sensors - Dell will raise a PR on it
- Can this design supports to have flexibility use their own thermal/fan algorithm? yes
- A single daemon handles all the change events (fan/cpu/thermal)? there us high chance that some events should wait in the loop with the current design? Why can't we propose different change events for different cpu/fan/optics?
- Will the design supports more policies? yes
- Verbose on API definition on threshold levels about Average/Max/ Snapshot
- The current design discussed about 60 sec polling interval ? Is there a way to include timestamp in polling mechanism?
- Is there any API exposed for fanTray contain more than one fan?
Miscellaneous:OCP deadline - Nov 29thThanks,-MadhuOn Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 6:23 PM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 11/12/2019.
Topics discussedDPKG Caching Framework - BRCMReview (Q & A):
- How does the framework track/calculate the GIT hash for new files and dependencies pulling from the Internet?
- Where does the debug cache stored?
- Can this framework increase build time (first time, how much does it take to populate the cache)?
- How much memory the debug cache takes ? ~600MB
- The framework discussed about two SHA hases? Does it have any significance? can this solved using single hash?
- How does the framework capture the file modified or not ?
- How does the framework deals with sonic patch files get applied to dpkg cache framework?
- Does the sha calculated for the depends files or depend files content ?
- How does commit and content SHA utilized in the framework? Why can't content-sha alone should solve the local modified files ?
- Do need to reevaluate/ recommend memory requirements with the DPKG feature?
-ThanksMadhuOn Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:53 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 11/05/2019.Topics discussed
- DPKG Caching Framework - BRCM
- Review (Q & A):
- How do track/calculate the GIT hash for new files and dependencies from the internet?
- Where does the deebug cache stored?
- Can this framework takes more time?
- How much memory the debug cache takes ? ~600MB
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 9:39 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 10/29/2019.
Topics discussed
- RADIUS - BRCM
Review (Q & A):
- Where does the Cached MPL (management-privilege-level)stored ? It stored at protected file /var/run/radius
- Can the framework support user change from tacacs+ to radius?
- What is the radius agent planning to use ? pam-radius
- How about user login's on device reboots? does it expect login failed/success? No, as soon as MPL cache preserved, users can logged in.
- Can the MPL cache associate with TTL? No, right now we refresh the session on every user logging in.
- There are 3 radius options [many-to-one = Y/N/A] discussed, what is appropriate for SONiC usage?
DPKG Caching Framework - BRCM
- How do track/calculate the GIT hash for new files and dependencies from the internet?
- Where does the deebug cache stored?
- Can this framework takes more time?
- How much memory the debug cache takes ? ~600MB
PR is available, discussion will continue next week.Thanks,On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:00 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:Announcement
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 10/22/2019.
Topics discussed
- VRRP (Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol)- BRCM
Review (Q & A):
- What is preventing not to support vrrp3?
- How is it different from FRR VRRP support? do you get a chance to evaluate FRR VRRP stack?
- It would be good to list the out the possible use cases/deployments for the sonic user to enable to this feature? Can this feature work with data center MLAG kind of deployments ?
- How does the uplink tracking works? for instance let's say there are more than 8 uplink interfaces how do we does it effects on mastership?
- How to handle split-brain scenarios?
- What are the supported VRID ranges ?
Sub group on test framework proposal - starting tomorrow 8-9 AM PSTOn Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 6:50 PM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 10/15/2019.
Topics discussed
- Tech Support export Service
Review (Q & A):
- Can custom scripts will be added to tech support service ? This is minimal service, can be added.
- Can the Journal data should be part of tech support ? will be included
- What kind of granular level support provided by tech support service? Minimal service for now, can be added filters, custom plugins to ex: to export to cloud etc.
- It seems tech support keep adding repeated data? How to avoid this storage back pressure on remote server? will look it
- do you have per process core support ? Can the user cherry pick on few process instead all ? With current schema of things with containers seems not possible right now. BRCM will look into it.
- Core File Manager
Review (Q & A):
- Can File Manager do automatic analysis on core dumps ? yes
- Will it be possible to export only analysis reports to tech support ? yes
- Is the Core file uploaded with back traces ? yes
- Does the systemD increase footprint - little bit
Thanks,MadhuOn Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 10:27 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 10/08/2019.
Topics discussed
- Checkout for OCP summit https://www.opencompute.org/events/past-summits
- Test sub group will be back next week [mid of OCT]
- SONiC Document work group - news-letter bi-weekly [end of October]
- 201908 Code PR reviews - target next 2 weeks.
- 201908 Code complete - by Oct 31st
- 201908 QA start - Nov 1st
Thanks,-Madhu
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 9/24/2019.
Topics discussed
- MGMT Framework - BRCM & DELL
Review (Q & A):
- List out examples where does the developers/users need transLib hints?
- W.r.t CVL library, do you have any performance numbers ex: add-del-add config objects work flow ex: vlan ? Do you see any performance hit? what are the improveements?
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 9:22 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 9/24/2019.
Topics discussed
- Dynamic Port BreakOut - LKND
- This talk is extension of previous discussion.
Review (Q & A):
- Can the design incorporate port groups ? offline discussion with Dell, LKND.
- Can the design support to add port persona ex: FC/FCoE or Ethernet?
- What is the default admin status of fanned out ports ? admin staus is DOWN by default.
- How does the design guarantee the sequencing of delete/add configurations?
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:49 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 9/17/2019.
Topics discussed
- Firmware Utils - MLNX
Review (Q & A):
- Why don't leverage ONIE updater, what is the design rational behind the fwUtils?
- What is the significance of chassis? Does Sonic supports multiple chassis?
- Can the design supports module level installations?
- Is the design support remote image path? yes
- What are the supported methods to download images? remote url http/https
- What about the image validations ? ex: compatibility between CPLD/BIOS etc..
- Can user skip/install specific image version using the fwUtils? - you should use it manually [skip the fwUpgrade]
- Can fwUtils supports scheduling of reloads after component updates?
2019 Oct ReleaseCheckout below for release trackingThanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 9:10 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 9/10/2019.
Topics discussed
- Drop Counters HLD - MSFT
Review (Q & A):
- Does the design preserve the counters on warm reboots? No
- Can the design reports the user if the drop counter is not supported with platforms? yes
- List out the caveats with warm reboot cases. Ex: if the device went wrong after warm reboots, does the drop counters distinguish the failure reasons?
- Do we have default settings for the debug counters with the device? No
- Can the design provide any templates for the debug counters to configure it?
- Can the lifecycle (ex: clear)of these counters will not effect the existing counters? No
- Can the design support logical/aggregate debug counters?
- Does these counters are ASIC independent? what platforms do you guys cover it?
- Can this integrate with mgmt framework?
Thanks,-MadhuOn Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 9:22 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 9/3/2019.
Topics discussed
- BGP Error handling - BRCM
Review (Q & A):
- Is there any perf impact on disable this feature: No
- Data shows the RIB-in convergence performance degradation is 44%, it should be linear, but why is 44%? can it be improved?
- What is the scope of the QuickTests? Is it covered only happy paths alone? do you have numbers with non-happy path scenarios?
- does the QuickTest covers both Ipv4 or Ipv6 ? QuickTest supports mix scenario of ipv4 & ipv6 ? not yet done for pure Ipv6 routes, will be explored.
- do you have any special handling for default route ? No
- Does it supports any debug commands check the failed route ? yes
- What is the reconciliation on daemon crashes (Ex: BGP)- how to reconcile the routes? Please list out the scenarios in HLD.
- Can this feature turn-off on demand ? is yes, can this affect the system stability?
- PR - https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/424#pullrequestreview-283110975
Error Handling - BRCMReview (Q & A):
- Overall framework is thinking about two approaches - 1) Introduce Opaque ID to track the add-delete-add kind of error handling scenarios 2) Introduce an Sync SAI API in addition to current Async SAI API.
- HLD is out for the community review. https://github.com/Azure/SONiC/pull/391
Thanks,MadhuOn Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 7:19 AM MSREDDY P <msreddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
- MoM of today's OCP SONiC call 8/27/2019.
Topics discussed
- Dynamic Port BreakOut HLD - LNKD
Review (Q & A):
- Can't SONiC query SAI API to fetch the break out capabilities?
- Generic question : Why breakout support only per interface? why can' t it per device ? Platform's don't allow certain ports due to silicon issues or the feature is not ready to use the breakout port on this relesase
- Can the breakout feature supports range of ports together?
- Can ASIC vendors support breakout on range/group of ports?
- What does platform vendors do to support this feature? It seems vendors should provide platforms.ini file.
- Can this feature support the list of breakout supported to the user?
- Can breakout feature enforce lanes and aliases to the sonic application?
- Why can't we define platform files per HWSKU?
- Can this HLD covers Platform LED feature?
- How about the configuration validations during port-breakout ? Can this integrate with MGMT framework CVL lib? yes.
Thanks,Madhu
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