solent.* et al (was Pre-RFD: uk.local.x for Central Southern England)
John Vaughan
In <5orr57$d...@k2.stcatz.ox.ac.uk> s...@k2.stcatz.ox.ac.uk (stephen gower) writes:
>And of course is only accessable to people whose service providers are
>based in this region. I would probably contribute to these groups, but it
>is unlikely that I would ever get news.ox.ac.uk to carry them :-(
Not true - solent.* is (albeit badly) world propogated - we've had postings
from the US & Canada, so it is out there somewhere.
Part of what I plan to do is to boost the propogation by issuing a
checkgroup for solent.*, and I'll post more about that to solent.net
(probably tomorrow).
>(for want of a better word) - I would be in favour of a uk.local.solent or
>even a uk.local.southeast to cover the (semi) obvious regions. This would
This has been 'discussed' in the past - but I'm not sure how far it's
got. If it needs kick-starting again, then someone ought to volunteer :)
If people think this is a good idea (though, I think it may need to
be be bigger than the Solent area), then something can be done.
As a general idea, we could have:
uk.local.south-east for Hampshire, IOW, Surrey, Sussex, Kent.
Something like that anyway...
>home. This would of course cause problems with solent.* regulars who might
>see this as an attempt to replace their group (just as some lon.* users
>object to the creation of uk.local.london). I would see it as a chance to
>extend the conversation (with cross-posting if wanted) rather than as a
>replacement.
Agreed - the point of solent.* is for a community type feel to the people
in the Southampton/Portsmouth/Isle of Wight area - nothing bigger than
that. It could work, but it does need a kick in terms of trimming down
the groups and getting propogation boosted.
And remember - if you want it, get your news admins to carry it - it's
only a small hierarchy, and most news admins are nice. Really. :)
>and centralsouth aka solent). If anyone one is responding to just the
>solenty bits of this post, may I suggest a change of Subject:? cheers
Done, and x-posted to solent.net.
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stephen gower
John Vaughan <jo...@tcp.net.uk> wrote:
>s...@k2.stcatz.ox.ac.uk (stephen gower) writes:
>>I would be in favour of a uk.local.solent or even a uk.local.southeast
>>to cover the (semi) obvious regions.
>
>got. If it needs kick-starting again, then someone ought to volunteer :)
If nothing has happened by October, then I may see if I can give it a go.
Unfortunately ( :-P ), I'm now on my summer vacation, and won't be
checking news often enough to be a proponent. It's a hard life :-)
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Kerry Dye
John Vaughan <jo...@tcp.net.uk> wrote:
>In <5orr57$d...@k2.stcatz.ox.ac.uk> s...@k2.stcatz.ox.ac.uk (stephen gower) writes:
>This has been 'discussed' in the past - but I'm not sure how far it's
>got. If it needs kick-starting again, then someone ought to volunteer :)
It died a death. Even the volunteer was disheartened.
>If people think this is a good idea (though, I think it may need to
>be be bigger than the Solent area), then something can be done.
>As a general idea, we could have:
>uk.local.south-east for Hampshire, IOW, Surrey, Sussex, Kent.
>Something like that anyway...
That would certainly not conflict with the very local nature of the
solent.* heirachy. Like most local groups, the people who post there
are very attached to it...
>Agreed - the point of solent.* is for a community type feel to the people
>in the Southampton/Portsmouth/Isle of Wight area - nothing bigger than
>that. It could work, but it does need a kick in terms of trimming down
>the groups and getting propogation boosted.
I agree with the trimming of the groups; most of the posts are in
solent.chat anyhow.
If you want it, most news admins will take it; just ask!!
>Done, and x-posted to solent.net.
Thanks for that; or I wouldn't have known.
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Dr John Stockton
In article <867713070.19142....@news.demon.co.uk> of Tue,
1 Jul 1997 00:18:42 in uk.net.news.config, Roy Stilling
<rp...@kalevala.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>It seemed to me that the debate was fairly well split between people
>who favoured uk.local.solent and those who advocated hands-off
>solent.*. There did seem to be a consensus though that *if* a
>uk.local.solent was created, solent.* should go, and the guys at TCP
>indicated they'd be willing to do that (well your other half did at
>any rate).
Purely on grounds of nomenclature, I feel it would be mildly unwise to
have *both* solent.* and uk.local.solent, although a uk.local.* for that
area might very well be justified (I used to live there, near enough).
Discarding uk.local.spithead, I suggest uk.local.hants (or hampshire),
with a charter indicating the degree of acceptability of East Dorset,
West Sussex, and North-East Hants topics. *.*.South-Central would do if
a larger area (within or on the Weymouth-Didcot-Hove semi-circle?) was
wanted.
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Arwel Parry
In article <5pbi66$q...@illuin.demon.co.uk>, Richard Letts
<ric...@illuin.demon.co.uk> writes
>Dr John Stockton (j...@merlyn.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>) Discarding uk.local.spithead, I suggest uk.local.hants (or hampshire),
>) with a charter indicating the degree of acceptability of East Dorset,
>) West Sussex, and North-East Hants topics. *.*.South-Central would do if
>) a larger area (within or on the Weymouth-Didcot-Hove semi-circle?) was
>) wanted.
>
>counties form natural boundaries; I like counties as boundaries. Even
>the scots can't complain about using counties as group-names.
Have you looked at a local government map of Wales or Scotland recently,
Richard? In Wales we've got some of the old pre-1974 county names back
in use, but they don't usually have the same boundaries. Haven't all the
Scottish Regional Councils just gone west too?
County boundaries certainly are _not_ immutable!
Arwel
(Writing from Cheshire, which loses Halton district next April....)
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Stuart Grant
Do I follow this right? You want to build a theoretical wall around a
newsgroup that's accessible from anywhere in the world? What do you
think this is, a local paper?
I've been subscribing for 2 months and I've got 10 messages including 2
spams and a duplicate. Who would you exclude and why?
Stuart Grant