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B. Taylor

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Jul 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/13/00
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NetBSD Folks,

I have to admit first off that I am kind of new to the mac world and also
new to the NetBSD world so any lameness by me I apologize for up front.

I have been trying to install NetBSD on my Blue and Whie G3 Yosemite for the
past couple of days and can not even get the cd to boot. I have downloaded
the 1.4.2 ISO off of your site on a pc and tried booting from cd.

I get into the open firmware v3.1.1 and type
>boot cd:,ofwboot.elf

this is what it spits back at me one it checks the cdrom:

load-size=1000 adlr32=16783c74
unrecognized Client Program format

I am not sure what I am doing wrong or if I need to set something up on the
open firmware side or what. I checked the cd in my laptop and did a cd boot
and the installer came up just fine so I don't think the cd is bad.

If there is anything I am missing please email me. I have checked the FAQ
and found nothing on this. Below is a description of my system.

Macintosh G3 Yosemite 350 (blue and white)
320 megs of pc100 ram
6gig ata hard drive
4gig Scsi hard drive
Orange Micro Grappler 940UW scsi card
DVD ata cdrom
ATI Rage 128 video card
and of course all the goodies that come with this model.

I have set auto-boot to false for now and am anxiously awaiting to hear your
feedback on this issue. If I am just totally screwed since the scsi card is
not an adaptec that could also be one possibility.


-Brian Lee Taylor


Henry B. Hotz

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Jul 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/13/00
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At 1:30 PM -0700 7/13/00, B. Taylor wrote:
>Orange Micro Grappler 940UW scsi card

>I have set auto-boot to false for now and am anxiously awaiting to hear your


>feedback on this issue. If I am just totally screwed since the scsi card is
>not an adaptec that could also be one possibility.

In OF do a 'dev / ls' and look carefully to see if the card is
listed. If it is then you can probably boot from it.

In any case to use it inside NetBSD you need to see if it is a
supported model. If it's supported by the PC port then there is hope
that it can be made to work easily enough that you may be able to beg
support from some developer on the list if you ask nicely.

You should be able to use the built-in ATA disk even if the scsi card
is a problem.


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Tyler Mitchell

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, B. Taylor wrote:

> NetBSD Folks,
>
> I have to admit first off that I am kind of new to the mac world and also
> new to the NetBSD world so any lameness by me I apologize for up front.
>
> I have been trying to install NetBSD on my Blue and Whie G3 Yosemite for the
> past couple of days and can not even get the cd to boot. I have downloaded
> the 1.4.2 ISO off of your site on a pc and tried booting from cd.
>
> I get into the open firmware v3.1.1 and type
> >boot cd:,ofwboot.elf
>
> this is what it spits back at me one it checks the cdrom:
>
> load-size=1000 adlr32=16783c74
> unrecognized Client Program format
>
> I am not sure what I am doing wrong or if I need to set something up on the
> open firmware side or what. I checked the cd in my laptop and did a cd boot
> and the installer came up just fine so I don't think the cd is bad.
>

> -Brian Lee Taylor

I get this very same error when attempting to boot a new PowerBook
G3/400Mhz laptop. Actually, "boot hd:,ofwboot.elf" and
"boot hd:,ofwboot.xcf" both work fine, but "boot hd:,boot.fs" does not.

What should I type at the Boot: prompt of ofwboot.elf?

--
Tyler Mitchell


Henry B. Hotz

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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At 1:22 PM -0500 7/14/00, Tyler Mitchell wrote:
>I get this very same error when attempting to boot a new PowerBook
>G3/400Mhz laptop. Actually, "boot hd:,ofwboot.elf" and
>"boot hd:,ofwboot.xcf" both work fine, but "boot hd:,boot.fs" does not.
>
>What should I type at the Boot: prompt of ofwboot.elf?

What's the name of the netbsd kernel on the same device as ofwboot?

I sent an email yesterday detailing what the input at the Boot: prompt can be.

It sounds like you could do 'boot hd:,ofwboot.elf -a' followed by the
name of your kernel at the prompt. Better yet you may be able to
skip ofwboot and just do 'boot hd:,netbsd' (or whatever your kernel
name is).

Tyler Mitchell

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Henry B. Hotz wrote:

> At 1:22 PM -0500 7/14/00, Tyler Mitchell wrote:
> >I get this very same error when attempting to boot a new PowerBook
> >G3/400Mhz laptop. Actually, "boot hd:,ofwboot.elf" and
> >"boot hd:,ofwboot.xcf" both work fine, but "boot hd:,boot.fs" does not.
> >
> >What should I type at the Boot: prompt of ofwboot.elf?
>
> What's the name of the netbsd kernel on the same device as ofwboot?

netbsd.ram.gz

(I'm using files from the 1.5_ALPHA snapshot)

> I sent an email yesterday detailing what the input at the Boot: prompt can be.

Ahh, yes. Thank you.

> It sounds like you could do 'boot hd:,ofwboot.elf -a' followed by the
> name of your kernel at the prompt. Better yet you may be able to
> skip ofwboot and just do 'boot hd:,netbsd' (or whatever your kernel
> name is).

Newer version of OF can directly load kernels? Cool.
When I typed:

boot hd:,ofwboot.elf -a

And when it asked me what file to boot ("Boot:"), I typed in netbsd.ram.gz
and it gave me an error (something like "no such file or directory").

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Tyler Mitchell


Henry B. Hotz

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At 6:32 PM -0500 7/14/00, Tyler Mitchell wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Henry B. Hotz wrote:
> > It sounds like you could do 'boot hd:,ofwboot.elf -a' followed by the
> > name of your kernel at the prompt. Better yet you may be able to
> > skip ofwboot and just do 'boot hd:,netbsd' (or whatever your kernel
> > name is).
>
>Newer version of OF can directly load kernels? Cool.

Yes, but I'm sure it can't load gzipped ones. You still need
ofwboot.xxx for that.

>When I typed:
>
>boot hd:,ofwboot.elf -a
>
>And when it asked me what file to boot ("Boot:"), I typed in netbsd.ram.gz
>and it gave me an error (something like "no such file or directory").

Is the file at the top of the directory tree? You may need to give
the whole pathname otherwise and OF may have bugs following a path on
the CD.

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