-current support for xircom PCMCIA cards?
gabriel rosenkoetter
> The 76x series came with a plastic box which enabled you to attach your
> floppy drive externally. That was how I got my 1.4.1 installed but I
> suppose you haven't got that gadget handy anymore?
Well, considering I got it through a friend who makes a living trading
on eBay, I don't think I exactly have all the original IBM parts.
;^>
I'm looking at buying one of those boxes (also on eBay), but I'd
rather not have to sink any more money into this thing.
> The install floppy usually configures PCMCIA correctly on 76x as you can
> see from the lines below (pcic0: controller 1 will have sockets when
> docked (with the proper dock :-)))
Oh yeah, I have no argument with its configuration of the bus. I'm
quite happy with that.
> > Xircom, CreditCard 10Base-T, CE-10BC, 2.0/0008012302-011494 (manufacturer 0x0105, product 0x0108) function 0 not configured
>
> It seems that the Xircom card is not supported. Wether it is easy to get
> it working I am not the one to say but I'd suppose it could be handled
> as a standard ne2000 clone.
Doubtful; it should be handled by the xi nee xe driver, I think,
considering it is a "driver for Xircom CreditCard PCMCIA Ethernet
adapters". (From the comments in src/sys/dev/pcmcia/if_xi.c.)
> > I'd still like to get that PCMCIA card to work, though...
>
> Your PCMCIA seems to be running OK so it might be worth borrowing another
> card somewhere. When I had my 765L I was using a _very_ cheap D-Link DE-650
> which worked "out of the box" as I remember.
As I said, I'd like to get that PCMCIA *card* to work. I've got no
complaints with the PCMCIA bus itself.
I have tried one other card which did not work, but there's still a
third and fourth I can get my hands on, so...
Also, I could tar base.tgz and kern.tgz (ungzipped, probably) across
multiple floppies (well, dd a tarball across multiple floppies), then
dd it back out over a tarball on the laptop's drive. Or (presuming we
have kermit, zmodem, something on the install floppy) I could
transfer the tarballs through a null modem cable (or... can one do a
network install using that as the interface? Maybe...)
Anyway, I've got enough options and it's clear enough that the Xircom
card I borrowed just isn't supported and I should return it that I can
stop bugging port-i386 and current-users about it.
To those of you that have, thanks for replying. If anybody has more
thoughts, maybe email me privately. I'll post a summary of what worked
if enough people are interested.
~ g r @ eclipsed.net
Eric Fox
floppy and CD by booting off the install floppy, and slicing/formating the
hard-drive, then exiting sysinstall and manually copying the install
kernel to the hard-drive. You can then swap the floppy/CD drives, boot
the install environment from the hard-drive, and finish by installing the
sets from CD.
Of course, this was when we had a single boot-floppy install ... haven't
tried it recently with the current multi-floppy images.
/\---/\ Eric J Fox
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Claus Andersen wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:
>
> > I have a laptop (an IBM Thinkpad 760ED) in which there can be either
> > a floppy drive or a CD-ROM drive and which is incapable of booting
> > from CD-ROM (stupidity in the BIOS).
>
> The 76x series came with a plastic box which enabled you to attach your
> floppy drive externally. That was how I got my 1.4.1 installed but I
> suppose you haven't got that gadget handy anymore?
>
> > Thus, I'd like to boot from a
> > floppy and be able to perform an ftp install... but I can't do that
> > unless the boot floppy configures the PCMCIA ethernet card I have
> > available, which even the 1.5_ALPHA snapshot's floppy doesn't seem
> > able to, which is pretty silly considering how old this card is. I
> > also have *no* other i386 machines available to build a boot floppy
> > with the proper PCMCIA support
>
> The install floppy usually configures PCMCIA correctly on 76x as you can
> see from the lines below (pcic0: controller 1 will have sockets when
> docked (with the proper dock :-)))
>
> > pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0-0x3e1 iomem 0xd0000 - 0xd3fff
> > pcic0: controller 0 (Intel 82365SL Revision 1) has sockets A and B
> > pcic0: controller 1 (Intel 82365SL Revision 1) has no sockets
>
> > Xircom, CreditCard 10Base-T, CE-10BC, 2.0/0008012302-011494 (manufacturer 0x0105, product 0x0108) function 0 not configured
>
> It seems that the Xircom card is not supported. Wether it is easy to get
> it working I am not the one to say but I'd suppose it could be handled
> as a standard ne2000 clone.
>
> > I'd still like to get that PCMCIA card to work, though...
>
> Your PCMCIA seems to be running OK so it might be worth borrowing another
> card somewhere. When I had my 765L I was using a _very_ cheap D-Link DE-650
> which worked "out of the box" as I remember.
>
> > Any suggestions and help will be much appreciated...
>
> This was just my "real life" experience. Hopefully someone not so clueless
> can help you either getting the Xircom running or how to manually prep the
> disk.
> --
> Kind Regards,
> Claus Andersen
>
Eric Fox
boot disk, so you had to mount the diskette and copy the kernel. In
theory, you should also be able to custom compile a kernel with support
for things you need, leaving out things you don't need, and copy it to the
boot floppy if it's small enough.
/\---/\ Eric J Fox
/ o o \ http://fox.phoenix.az.us
\.\ /./ ---------------------------
\@/ "Of course it runs NetBSD."
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 06:42:14PM -0700, Eric Fox wrote:
> > I've had very good luck installing on one of these using both an install
> > floppy and CD by booting off the install floppy, and slicing/formating the
> > hard-drive, then exiting sysinstall and manually copying the install
> > kernel to the hard-drive. You can then swap the floppy/CD drives, boot
> > the install environment from the hard-drive, and finish by installing the
> > sets from CD.
> >
> > Of course, this was when we had a single boot-floppy install ... haven't
> > tried it recently with the current multi-floppy images.
>
> Hrm. I think I tried that, but couldn't actually find the install
> kernel on the memory image mounted from the floppy... but maybe I can
> download an install kernel, tar it to a floppy and install that way?
>
> That's much better than sneakernetting the kern and base packages
> across to the machine, so I'll give it a shot...
Manuel Bouyer
> If I remember right, the kernel wasn't in the memory image, but was on the
> boot disk, so you had to mount the diskette and copy the kernel. In
You can't do this now, because the floppy is no longer in ffs format.
But I think the kernel image, with its ramdisk loaded, is available for ftp
near the floppy images.
--
Manuel Bouyer <bou...@antioche.eu.org>
--
Eric Fox
another floppy with a GENERIC kernel on it to copy onto the drive. Oh
well, you're beyond that problem now, right?
[fox]
John Hawkinson
[ Dropped current-users from the Cc list; why were both lists there in
the first place? ]
| Well that stinks ... it was handy at times. I suppose you could prep
| another floppy with a GENERIC kernel on it to copy onto the drive. Oh
| well, you're beyond that problem now, right?
GENERIC is available in binary/kernel/netbsd.GENERIC.gz in the
distribution tree,
e.g. ftp.netbsd.org:/pub/NetBSD/arch/i386/snapshot/20000620-1.5/binary/kernel/netbsd.GENERIC.gz
for 1.5_ALPHA.
Why does this cause a loss of functionality to you?
--jhawk
Eric Fox
install image. It was poetically simple and had a couple of usefull
"features." But this is no real loss considering the drivers that have
been gained. I was thrilled to discover that both the Fast Etherlink and
Megahertz cards in my laptops are now supported -- as well as everything
else that had given me fits in the 1.3.x distributions.
[fox]
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