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stable-digest Thursday, February 20 2003 Volume 05 : Number 799

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Divulgação de Artistas em Rádios do Interior de SP
Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release
Re: Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release
RE: Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release
Re: Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release
Best Gigabit NIC for FreeBSD?
Re: FTP-server
Curious SCSI and/or Firewire Problem
hard read error on disk
Re: Latest Buildworld error (after cvs co -P src)
Re: Curious SCSI and/or Firewire Problem
Matrox Meteor in 5.0-RELEASE
Re: Latest Buildworld error (after cvs co -P src)
Re: Matrox Meteor in 5.0-RELEASE
Re: hard read error on disk
devfs and UPDATING
Re: devfs and UPDATING
Re: hard read error on disk
Maxtor Firewire Drives
From: "Eduardo Rosas" <fre...@myrosas.net>
Mozilla window won't open after upgrade
Re: Mozilla window won't open after upgrade
From: "Eduardo Rosas" <fre...@myrosas.net>

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:18:39 -0300
From: "Divulgador de Artistas" <divulg...@openline.com.br>
Subject: Divulgação de Artistas em Rádios do Interior de SP

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:05:34 -0400
From: Zer0 <ellen.m...@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release

About 6 hours ago I updated my sources via cvsup using the same cvsupfile I have been for several months now to track 4.7 stable.
After rebuilding world I seem to have aquired a 4.8 prerelease system.
This must be a mistake on my part. Any advice on what that mistake is would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx,
Clinton MacKinnon
- --

- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE-----
GU d--- s:-- a- C++++ UB++ P+ L- E- W N+ o- K w
O- M- V-- PS+++ PE-- Y+ PGP- t--- 5++ X R+ tv+ b+++ DI+ D++
G e h! r++ y*
- ------END GEEK CODE------

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:11:04 -0500
From: Scott Lambert <lam...@lambertfam.org>
Subject: Re: Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:05:34AM -0400, Zer0 wrote:
> About 6 hours ago I updated my sources via cvsup using the same
> cvsupfile. I have been for several months now to track 4.7 stable.
> After rebuilding world I seem to have aquired a 4.8 prerelease system.
> This must be a mistake on my part. Any advice on what that mistake is.
> would be greatly appreciated.

Read the archives, search for PRERELEASE. This question and the
appropriate responses are posted during every release cycle.

- --
Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin
lam...@lambertfam.org

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:15:09 -0500
From: "Aaron Daubman" <dau...@rpi.edu>
Subject: RE: Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release

I could be mistaken, but reading through these links
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.html
and
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html
it seems that unless you having been tracking RELENG_4_7, the standard
supfile will grab RELENG_4, the -STABLE branch, and AFAIK prereleases are
considered stable.

Please correct me if I've got this wrong =)

Regards,
~Aaron

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-free...@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-free...@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Zer0
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:06 AM
To: stable list
Subject: Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release

About 6 hours ago I updated my sources via cvsup using the same cvsupfile I
have been for several months now to track 4.7 stable.
After rebuilding world I seem to have aquired a 4.8 prerelease system.
This must be a mistake on my part. Any advice on what that mistake is would
be greatly appreciated.

Thanx,
Clinton MacKinnon
- --

- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE-----
GU d--- s:-- a- C++++ UB++ P+ L- E- W N+ o- K w
O- M- V-- PS+++ PE-- Y+ PGP- t--- 5++ X R+ tv+ b+++ DI+ D++
G e h! r++ y*
- ------END GEEK CODE------

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:14:15 -0400
From: Zer0 <ellen.m...@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Updated to todays Stable - Ended up with 4.8 pre-release

> It's correct, RELEASE-4.8 will be branched of from 4.7-STABLE.
> After RELEASE-4.8 you will be tracking 4.8-STABLE
>
> Vix

Thank you I thought I was losing my mind.

Clinton Mackinnon

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:29:25 +1100
From: Antony Mawer <ajm...@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Best Gigabit NIC for FreeBSD?

Hi all,

I've recently been setting up a server with a D-Link DGE-500T gigabit
ethernet card, that needs to connect to a Novell Netware 4.11 server
over IPX. Using the nge driver, it came up on the network fine using
TCP/IP, but had issues trying to find the Netware server. A 'tcpdump not
ip' showed there were definately IPX traffic/SAP broadcasts being picked
up by the card, but it refused to get up and running

Changing the card over for a 100mbit one using the vr driver picked the
Netware server up without a problem.

Has anyone had any experience with gigabit cards running IPX under
FreeBSD? We're currently investigating purchasing a different card to
try (we were thinking probably Intel - what's supported best under FBSD?).

The machine in question is running 4.7-RELEASE-p2.

Thanks in advance,
Antony

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:23:39 +0100
From: Subhi S Hashwa <su...@thebigboss.com>
Subject: Re: FTP-server

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:43:13AM +0100, Vidor Demeter wrote:
> Hi everybody!
>
> I want to setup a FTP-server on my computer with FreeBSD 5.0...
> Is there any help on how to begin? I tried to find some help, but I
> did not find any. Could someone help me with that? How to begin?
> TIA
> Vidor

http://www.proftpd.org/

Take your time reading thee documentation
then install it from ports

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook on how to use ports

HTH

- -Subhi

- --
Subhi S Hashwa *** su...@thebigboss.com
- ---
When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.

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Date: 20 Feb 2003 19:17:03 +1030
From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doco...@gsoft.com.au>
Subject: Curious SCSI and/or Firewire Problem

I am testing a firewire enclosure and a SCSI card. The SCSI card is an
Init-IO 940/950 and I obtained a driver from someone who back ported it
from OpenBSD (hopefully it will be committed soon :)

I notice that the firewire enclosure does ~20-25Mb/sec by itself, and
the SCSI disk (old slow 1Gb) does 4.5Mb/sec by itself. If I run them
both they act very bursty - neither runs at full usage all of the time,
or at top speed.

These measurement are made with 'systat -vmstat 1'.

It is almost as if they are blocking each other in the kernel, but I'm
not sure.

My disk exerciser consists of dd'ing from /dev/zero into a file on the
disks. The machine is running 4.7 from a few days ago.

Anyone have any ideas what it could be? I haven't tried it with the IDE
disk that is on this system yet.

- --
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
-- Andrew Tanenbaum
GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:57:35 +0100
From: Igor Pokrovsky <igor.po...@cnrm.meteo.fr>
Subject: hard read error on disk

Hello,

I'm running STABLE(last cvsup about a month ago) on a laptop with IBM
hard disk (40Gb).
Yesterday after it hangs I had to turn power off to reboot it. When I
turned it on again
just in booting step, when routing daemons are often starting I have got
report
about hard read error on disk, fortunatly at last it has been booted.
Normally this
error means, that hard disk is unreadable in some place, so I tested
surface of my disk
and haven't found any read error. Then I simply made new file system on
root slice
(error appeared on / slice) and reinstalled all stuff. And now
everything works fine again.
But I still cannot understand why kernel reported about hardware error
on disk if
it was only a problem of filesystem. What's wrong?

- --
Igor

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 04:50:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Glendon Gross <gr...@xinetd.ath.cx>
Subject: Re: Latest Buildworld error (after cvs co -P src)

On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 06:26:48AM -0800, Glendon M. Gross wrote:

>> cc -O -pipe -DLIBC_MAJOR=5 -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include
>> -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../.
>> ./include -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc
>> -DPOSIX_MI
>> STAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP
>> -DDES_BUILTIN -D
>> YP -DHESIOD -c /usr/src/lib/libc/net/name6.c -o name6.o
>>
>> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/name6.c: In function `getanswer':

>What does 'ident /usr/src/lib/libc/net/name6.c' show you?
>
>Kris

Script started on Thu Feb 20 04:35:06 2003
gross@bsd:~ > ident /usr/src/lib/libc./ /net/name6.c
/usr/src/lib/libc/net/name6.c:
$KAME: name6.c,v 1.25 2000/06/26 16:44:40 itojun Exp $
$FreeBSD: src/lib/libc/net/name6.c,v 1.23 2002/06/26 08:18:05 imp Exp $
gross@bsd:~ > exit
exit

Script done on Thu Feb 20 04:35:45 2003

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:41:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Nate Lawson <na...@root.org>
Subject: Re: Curious SCSI and/or Firewire Problem

On 20 Feb 2003, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> I am testing a firewire enclosure and a SCSI card. The SCSI card is an
> Init-IO 940/950 and I obtained a driver from someone who back ported it
> from OpenBSD (hopefully it will be committed soon :)
>
> I notice that the firewire enclosure does ~20-25Mb/sec by itself, and
> the SCSI disk (old slow 1Gb) does 4.5Mb/sec by itself. If I run them
> both they act very bursty - neither runs at full usage all of the time,
> or at top speed.

You can get more info with "camcontrol debug -T all". Or the information
may be under -I. Either way, my suspicion is that the old drive is
holding the bus for a long time.

Also, do "ps axl" between bursts to see where your dd process is blocked.

- -Nate

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:39:06 -0500
From: Jason Andresen <jand...@mitre.org>
Subject: Matrox Meteor in 5.0-RELEASE

Is the Matrox Meteor broken in 5.0-RELEASE?

It configures ok, but the build does with an error about it requiring
the PCI compatabiliy shims. This is apparently COMPAT_OLDPCI, which is
not defined for the 5.0 kernel. Is this broken or an oversight?

- --
\ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jand...@mitre.org
|\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer
_| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:18:25 -0800
From: Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Subject: Re: Latest Buildworld error (after cvs co -P src)

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On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 04:50:28AM -0800, Glendon Gross wrote:

> >What does 'ident /usr/src/lib/libc/net/name6.c' show you?

> Script started on Thu Feb 20 04:35:06 2003
> gross@bsd:~ > ident /usr/src/lib/libc./=08 =08=08 =08/net/name6.c
> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/name6.c:
> $KAME: name6.c,v 1.25 2000/06/26 16:44:40 itojun Exp $
> $FreeBSD: src/lib/libc/net/name6.c,v 1.23 2002/06/26 08:18:05 imp Ex=
p $
> gross@bsd:~ > exit

You have managed to partially update your system to an extremely old
version of FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT. Revision 1.23 was in -current 7
months ago.

If you can't figure out how this happened, please post your cvsupfile
so I can check it.

Kris

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:19:14 -0800
From: Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Subject: Re: Matrox Meteor in 5.0-RELEASE

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On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:39:06PM -0500, Jason Andresen wrote:
> Is the Matrox Meteor broken in 5.0-RELEASE?
>=20
> It configures ok, but the build does with an error about it requiring=20
> the PCI compatabiliy shims. This is apparently COMPAT_OLDPCI, which is=
=20
> not defined for the 5.0 kernel. Is this broken or an oversight?

The driver probably needs to be updated. What happens if you turn on
COMPAT_OLDPCI in your kernel?

Kris

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:04:25 +0100
From: "Henrik W Lund" <laksefi...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: hard read error on disk

>From: Igor Pokrovsky <igor.po...@cnrm.meteo.fr>
>To: freebsd...@freebsd.org
>Subject: hard read error on disk
>Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:57:35 +0100
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm running STABLE(last cvsup about a month ago) on a laptop with IBM
>hard disk (40Gb).
>Yesterday after it hangs I had to turn power off to reboot it. When I
>turned it on again
>just in booting step, when routing daemons are often starting I have got
>report
>about hard read error on disk, fortunatly at last it has been booted.
>Normally this
>error means, that hard disk is unreadable in some place, so I tested
>surface of my disk
>and haven't found any read error. Then I simply made new file system on
>root slice
>(error appeared on / slice) and reinstalled all stuff. And now
>everything works fine again.
>But I still cannot understand why kernel reported about hardware error
>on disk if
>it was only a problem of filesystem. What's wrong?
>
>--
>Igor

I had this very same problem, and it worked out fine once I recreated the
filesystem on the slice (my errors occured on /usr). I guess it must have
something to do with the way the structure of the filesystem.

- -Henrik
FreeBSD newbie and fanatic. :D

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Messenger http://www.msn.no/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og
dine venner

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:42:09 -0600
From: Wayne <wa...@etaq.com>
Subject: devfs and UPDATING

Dear Jason,

I think I was right about devfs being a new line in fstab!
This may have allowed my laptop to stay 5.0; unfortunately, I had
to regress it to 4.7 to get it to work again.

The new line is:

devfs /dev devfs rw 0 0

according to man devfs, posted at

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=devfs&sektion=5&manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-RELEASE

The man page does not say "Put this line into /etc/fstab", but
it looks like an fstab line to me.

If this is correct, I wish they would put this information into
UPDATING.

I wonder if it is harmless to have the line in /etc/fstab
while running FreeBSD 4.7.

- --
Wayne M Barnes
wa...@etaq.com

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:03:47 +0100
From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <d...@ofug.org>
Subject: Re: devfs and UPDATING

Wayne <wa...@etaq.com> writes:
> I think I was right about devfs being a new line in fstab!
> This may have allowed my laptop to stay 5.0; unfortunately, I had
> to regress it to 4.7 to get it to work again.

Don't use devfs on 4.x.

DES
- --
Dag-Erling Smorgrav - d...@ofug.org

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:11:43 +0100
From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <d...@ofug.org>
Subject: Re: hard read error on disk

Igor Pokrovsky <igor.po...@cnrm.meteo.fr> writes:
> But I still cannot understand why kernel reported about hardware
> error on disk if it was only a problem of filesystem. What's wrong?

Nothing. You had a surface error which was not recoverable on read
(i.e. it was too serious to allow the disk to reconstruct the data),
but by recreating the filesystem, you gave the disk a chance to remap
the faulty sector, so the error seemingly went away. This is how
disks are supposed to work.

DES
- --
Dag-Erling Smorgrav - d...@ofug.org

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Date: 21 Feb 2003 09:20:15 +1030
From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doco...@gsoft.com.au>
Subject: Maxtor Firewire Drives

Has anyone used one?
In particular the "Maxtor Personal Storage 5000DV/5000XT"?

A customer of ours is considering buying one and I want to know if
they're going to work :)

Apparently they work under Linux -
http://www.linux1394.org/cgi-bin/view_device.cgi?id=465
http://www.linux1394.org/cgi-bin/view_device.cgi?id=458

Given that it appears to use the SBP protocol I don't expect any
problems, but I would appreciate any first hand knowledge :)

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:00:28 -0800 (PST)
From: "Eduardo Rosas" <fre...@myrosas.net>
Subject: From: "Eduardo Rosas" <fre...@myrosas.net>

subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:45:51 -0600
From: "Aron Silverton" <a...@labs.mot.com>
Subject: Mozilla window won't open after upgrade

Hello,

I made some major upgrades to my ports and now I can't get mozilla to
open up a window. I've deinstalled and reinstalled. At each step I
verified that my ports collection (cvsup) was recent and that my ports
db (portsdb -uU and pkgdb -F) was in good shape. Below are the versions
and screen output that I receive. I get this all the time and there is
no other Mozilla processes running. The same behavior is seen under
Gnome (no longer installed) and KDE 3.1. Any suggestions?

bash-2.05b$ uname -a
FreeBSD timmy.motlabs.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #1: Wed Nov 13
09:40:27 CST 2002 a...@timmy.motlabs.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TIMMY i386
bash-2.05b$ mozilla -v
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030220
<developer build>
bash-2.05b$ mozilla
No running window found.
bash-2.05b$

Thanks,

Aron

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:48:51 -0500
From: "Brian T. Schellenberger" <b...@babbleon.org>
Subject: Re: Mozilla window won't open after upgrade

I have run into this. I have reported it under bugzilla --

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193973

It is in fact a mozilla bug.

In fact, it's a double-bug:

First mozilla-bin gets a segv,
Then the script that invokes it fails to notice that it failed and
doesn't give a useful message.

The current port of galeon is affected as well.

- --
Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . b...@babbleon.org (personal)

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:16:56 -0800 (PST)
From: "Eduardo Rosas" <fre...@myrosas.net>
Subject: From: "Eduardo Rosas" <fre...@myrosas.net>

subscribe freebsd-stable
subscribe cvs-all

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