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ti...@tibor.org

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Jul 2, 2004, 10:38:28 PM7/2/04
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Dru wrote:

> I'd love to see a forum established to discuss how to bring quality BSD
> training to the masses. To create a curriculum that is practical,
> thought provoking, and available. However, freebsd-jobs isn't the place to
> hash it out. Anyone care to suggest a better place to continue on this
> thread?

In the absence of better suggestions, I'd be willing to setup and manage a
list for that, depending on interest. Naturally those interested should
reply to me off-list.

Mike


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fre...@pksnet.com

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Jul 4, 2004, 1:50:22 PM7/4/04
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>Pay me $500, I'll give you a piece of paper that declares you an First Class
>graduate at the Mancunian School of BSD Unix Expertise. Will that do? :-)

Wow !That's expensive. Since it's 4th of July I hereby, el gratis, certify All experienced FreeBSD'ers as FSP. (FreeBSD Solutions Provider) Of course a paper cert will cost $9.95 + shipping. But included is a logo for your website. :-)

re...@reedmedia.net

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Jul 5, 2004, 10:04:15 AM7/5/04
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On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, Paul Robinson wrote:

> > I am meeting with LPI at the end of this month. LPI has "Linux" in their
> > name, but they hope to focus not specifically on Linux, but more on
> > certification for open source software, like Apache, LAMP, Perl, etc.
>
> I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Seriously, go look at the quality
> of their content and accreditations. The traditional accreditation model
> does not hold up when it comes to open source. LPI are trying to position
> themselves as the "Vendor" in a vendor-certification, whereas it should be
> those involved in the project who is doing that.
>
> > I will be talking with them about Apache mainly, but also be discussing
> > *BSD certifications. And discussion working with them to run a job task
> > analysis.
>
> I strongly suspect that a user could get just as much learning out of
> reading the Handbook and a few other resources as they would with any of
> these courses, yet they would pay a huge amount of money for it, just to get
> some letters after their name that most employers don't recognise. Dangerous
> game in my opinion.

I have not idea what you are talking about. LPI does not offer any
courses. LPI purposely distances itself from any books, courseware, and
courses.

Also, LPI does not expect anyone to pay a huge a mount of money. In fact,
LPI is concerned with the amount paid now ($100 per cert) because of the
extreme expense in many countries. They hope to drastically reduce the
monetary price.

As for learning via reading: that is fine for many -- including myself.
But many students need the extra push by actually attending a structured,
hands-on class. Also classes, even running at a slow pace, can cover a
lot more than a student trying to self-teach themselves.

Jeremy C. Reed

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