Highest amount of titles
Louis Epstein
Olav Ståle Søvik of Camster (oso...@sn.no) wrote:
: Who has had/have the largest amount of titles ever?
I think the Dukes of Alba?
: Who has got the largest about of:
: duke-titles?
: marquess-titles?
: count-titles?
: viscount-titles?
: baron-titles?
: other titles?
Don't know,but here's a British list of some of the most titled.
[reposted,I wrote it last year]
Correcting a suggestion by Stan Brown that getting a title of
every lower degree in the peerage is a norm for higher creations
has prompted me to compile a title inventory,in order of precedence:
Dukedom Marquessate Earldom Viscounty Barony
Norfolk ---- Arundel, ---- Fitzalan,
Surrey, Clun,
Norfolk Oswaldestre,
Beaumont,
Howard of Glossop
Somerset ---- ---- ---- Seymour
Richmond, ---- March, ---- Settrington,
Lennox & Darnley, Torboulton
Gordon Kinrara
Grafton ---- Euston Ipswich Sudbury
Beaufort Worcester Worcester ---- Herbert of Raglan
Chepstow and
Gower(ONE title)
Saint Albans ---- Burford ---- Heddington,
Vere of Hanworth
Bedford Tavistock Bedford ---- Russell,
Howland
Devonshire Hartington Devonshire, ---- Cavendish,
Burlington Cavendish of
Keighley
Marlborough Blandford Sunderland, ---- Spencer,
Marlborough Churchill of
Sandridge
Rutland Granby Rutland ---- Manners of
Haddon,
Roos of Belvoir
Hamilton & Douglas, Angus, ---- Abernethy and
Brandon Clydesdale Arran Lanark Jedburgh Forest,
and Cambridge Aven Innerdale
Machanshire and
Polmont,
Dutton
Buccleuch & Dumfriesshire Buccleuch, Nith Scott of
Queensberry Doncaster, Thorthorwald Buccleuch,
Dalkeith, and Ross Scott of
Drumlanrig Whitchester
and Sanquhar and Eskdaill,
Tynedale,
Douglas of
Kinmont
Middlebie and
Dornoch
Argyll Kintyre and Argyll, Lochow Lorne,
(& Argyll) Lorne Campbell and and Glenilla Inveraray Mull
Cowal Morvern and Tiry,
Sundridge,
Hamilton
Atholl Atholl, Tullibardine, Balquhidder, Murray of
Tullibardine Atholl, Glenalmond Tullibardine,
Strathtay and and Glenlyon Murray Balvenie
Strathardle and Gask
Montrose Montrose, Montrose, Dundaff Graham,
Graham and Kincardine, Aberuthven
Buchanan Graham Mugdock and
Fintrie
Roxburghe Bowmont and Roxburghe, Broxmouth Roxburghe,
Cessford Kelso, Ker of Cessford
Innes and Cavertoun
Manchester ---- Manchester Mandeville Montagu of
Kimbolton
Northumberland ---- Northumberland, ---- Percy,
Percy, Warkworth,
Beverley Lovaine
Leinster Kildare Kildare, Leinster Offaly,
Offaly Kildare
Wellington Wellington, Mornington, Wellesley, Mornington,
Douro Wellington Wellington Douro
of Talavera
and of
Wellington
Sutherland Stafford Gower, Trentham, Gower
Ellesmere Brackley
Abercorn Abercorn, Abercorn Hamilton, Paisley,
Hamilton Strabane Abercorn,
Hamilton
Mountcastell and
Kilpatrick,
Mountcastle
Westminster Westminster Grosvenor Belgrave Grosvenor
Fife ---- Southesk, ---- Carnegie of
Macduff Kinnaird and
Leuchars
Winchester Wiltshire ---- Saint John of
Basing
Huntly Huntly, ---- Gordon of
Aboyne Strathavon and
Glenlivet,
Meldrum
Queensberry Queensberry Drumlanrig Douglas of
Hawick and
Tibbers
Tweeddale Tweeddale, Walden Hay of Yester,
Gifford Tweeddale
Lothian Lothian, Briene Newbottle,
Lothian, Jedburgh,
Ancram Kerr,
Ker,
Ker
Lansdowne Kerry, Clanmaurice, Kerry and
Shelburne, Fitzmaurice, Lixnaw,
Wycombe Calne and Dunkeron,
Calstone Wycombe
Townshend ---- Townshend Townshend
of Raynham
Salisbury Salisbury Cranborne Cecil*
*has passed to his son via Writ in Acceleration
Bath ---- Weymouth Thynne of
Warminster
Waterford Tyrone Tyrone Le Poer,
Beresford,
Tyrone
Downshire Hillsborough, Hillsborough, Harwich,
Hillsborough Kilwarlin, Hill
Fairford
Donegall Donegall, Chichester of Chichester
Belfast Carrickfergus of Belfast,
Fisherwick,
Templemore
Hertford Hertford, Beauchamp Conway of
Yarmouth Ragley,
Conway of
Killultagh
Bute Dumfries, Air, Crichton of
Bute, Kingarth, Sanquhar,
Windsor Mountjoy Sanquhar,
Mount Stuart
Cumra and
Inchmarnock,
Mount Stuart
of Wortley,
Cardiff
Headfort Bective Headfort Headfort,
Kenlis
Sligo Altamont, Westport Mount Eagle,
Clanricarde Monteagle
Ely Ely Loftus Loftus,
Loftus
Exeter Exeter ---- Burghley
Northampton Northampton, ---- Wilmington
Compton
Camden Camden, Bayham Camden
Brecknock
Anglesey Uxbridge ---- Paget de
Beaudesert
Cholmondeley Cholmondeley, Cholmondeley, Cholmondeley,
Rocksavage Malpas Newburgh,
Newborough
Conyngham Conyngham, Conyngham, Conyngham,
Mount Charles Mount Charles, Minster
Slane
Londonderry Londonderry, Castlereagh, Londonderry,
Vane Seaham Stewart
Ailesbury Cardigan, Savernake Brudenell,
Ailesbury, Bruce
Bruce
Ormonde Ormonde, Thurles Ormonde
Ossory
Bristol Bristol, ---- Hervey of
Jermyn Ickworth
Ailsa Cassilis ---- Kennedy,
Ailsa
Normanby Mulgrave Normanby Mulgrave,
Mulgrave
Abergavenny Abergavenny, Nevill Abergavenny
Lewes
Zetland Zetland, ---- Dundas
Ronaldshay
Linlithgow Hopetoun Aithrie Hope,
Hopetoun,
Niddry
Aberdeen and Aberdeen, Formartine Haddo Methlic
Temair Haddo Tarves and Kellie
Milford Haven Medina Alderney ----
Reading Reading Reading, Reading
Erleigh
Awarding 5 points per Dukedom,4 per Marquessate,etc,the most title-loaded
peer is the Duke of Buccleuch & Queensberry,32 points.
(by my reckoning,with multibarrelled titles and writs of novodamus some
may reckon differently)
The only Dukes with marquessates of a different name for their sons'
courtesy titles,earldoms of a still different name for their grandsons'
courtesy titles,and lower titles of a different name yet for their
great-grandsons are those of Devonshire,Marlborough,Hamilton & Brandon,
Buccleuch & Queensberry(not used,though,the established courtesy titles
skip two grades),Argyll,Atholl,Montrose,Roxburghe,and Sutherland...so
the chances are excellent for Scots and minimal for others.
Olav Ståle Søvik of Camster
Who has had/have the largest amount of titles ever?
Louis Epstein
: -Who are the Dukes of Alba? How many titles do they have? 100? 200?
: 50?
They're Spanish,persently headed by a duchess...I THINK the number is
between 50 and 100.
Olav Ståle Søvik of Camster
>Awarding 5 points per Dukedom,4 per Marquessate,etc,the most title-loaded
>peer is the Duke of Buccleuch & Queensberry,32 points.
>(by my reckoning,with multibarrelled titles and writs of novodamus some
>may reckon differently)
-What do you mean by points?
Olav Ståle Søvik of Camster
>I think the Dukes of Alba?
Louis Epstein
: >peer is the Duke of Buccleuch & Queensberry,32 points.
: >(by my reckoning,with multibarrelled titles and writs of novodamus some
: >may reckon differently)
As a means of keeping score,weighting the titles by rank.
Noel S. McFerran
> : 50?
>
> between 50 and 100.
My copy of the "Elenco de Grandezas y Titulos Nobiliarios Espanoles"
(1980) lists the Duquesa de Alba with 42 titles (6 duke; 1 count-duke;
14 marquess; 20 count; 1 viscount). However, she has ceded several of
these to her children. In addition, the title of "Duquesa de Berwick"
which was recognised for her in 1955 is in fact an English title
(attainted by the Orange) only inheritable in the male line (the actual
heir is the Duque de Penaranda de Duero).
According to my count the Duquesa de Medinaceli had 38 titles in 1980
(she had already ceded a number of titles to her children). If you
subtract the titles ceded by the Duquesa de Alba between 1980 and the
present, it may be that the Duquesa de Medinaceli has more now.
Noel S. McFerran
mcfe...@erols.com
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