Reply to modus from Kuro5hin

[Jonathan Swift]

In reply to modus' k5 post at:

https://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2010/6/25/088/38168

"What tricks do you use to convince people to let you out of the
asylum? Have you ever considered writing them up to help others who
have been kept in psych wards against their will?"

Unfortunately, this particular one wasn't any kind of trick: my doctor
ran completely out of the time with which he could legally hold me.
That's why this latest was my second-longest hospitalization ever. I
got out of the longest, which was thirty days, because I ran out of
insurance.

I hadn't been there very long at all when the guy said that if I
stayed cool for 24 hours, he would release me. I immediately
proceeded to stay cool for 24 hours, at which point he said first that
he could not release me in the middle of the night. The following
morning was Saturday. There was no Social Worker on duty over the
weekend who could make arrangements for my followup care, so the
earliest I could get out was Monday.

Crap like that proceeded to ensue for the entire fscking time I was in
there. I meant it when I said I damn near died of boredom. Nuthouses
are interesting places to be if one is truly symptomatic, but if one
isn't, they are very very boring.

Eventually my Social Worker pointed out that the very longest they
could legally keep me, after both a 5150 72-hour hold and then a 5250
14-day hold was ten PM on the Wednesday they actually did release
me. They released me at Midday so it would still be business hours.

If one's doctor isn't some kind of quack or jerk, really no tricks of
any sort should be required to get released from a nuthouse: just stay
cool for a day or two.

You don't even need to stop being symptomatic. You just need to be
insightful enough to recognize your symptoms for what they really are,
and to be sincere about getting your symptoms properly treated during
your followup care after your release.

I'd be completely cool if you copypastad this here comment into your
K5 diary.

Yer Pal,

Jonathan Swifth

[George Stark]

Jon, nice to see you out and about. You take good care of yourself. I've been away from K5 for so long that I am getting my intelligence back. It appears that the trolling done to me on K5 has a negative effect on my thoughts, behavior, and writing. When I am somewhere else and am not trolled, I can write more intelligent things and avoid counter-trolling and writing things that get me trolled.

I have done some research on this using various web sites and made a short list of things that get people trolled:

#1 Posting personal information about ourselves, nobody wants to hear about our illnesses or personal life. They just want to BS with us and talk about stuff in other areas. This could be because the trolls have the same thing we have or a family member or friend that has it. For example a troll could be upset that his son had schizophrenia and had to be forced into a hospital for treatment. Then he reads your diary about a hospital stay for schizoaffective disorder which triggers bad memories for him and then writes nasty stuff about you and your disorder.

#2 Making a comment or diary or story too long. You'll get the usual "TL;DR" message and sometimes after that they claim it was diary spam or blog spam or whatever. People want it short and simple. We make it too complex and too wordy so they troll us for that.

#3 Saying things like suing people, filing criminal charges, and other stuff. At one point I did not like the way I was being treated and said I might sue over it, and I was trolled a lot and then my accounts got banned.

#4 Sometimes it isn't us at all, just some trolls having a bad day and then happen to disagree with us and tell us how stupid we are for having different opinions and views from them.

#5 Trying to write fiction, man have I been trolled for that a lot. I wanted to learn how to write books on fiction and wanted feedback from K5 for fiction stories in my diary only to be trolled.

#6 Revealing your real name, notice most trolls stay anonymous, those of us honest enough to reveal our real names from way back when K5 had the getting to know you part back when K5 was young and sane and I joined to learn how to write better technical articles and then fiction when the fiction section was made. But once you reveal your real name or the name of people who helped you or hurt you, the trolls take that info and write all kinds of stuff. But those people with money like managers who keep lawyers on retainer to write nasty letters to Rusty and other owners of web sites can have the stuff that mentioned their name deleted and your account banned for it.

#7 Sometimes you just write about hot topics like religion, abortion, gay marriage, gay rights, hydrogen bombs, corruption, government, etc and get trolled for that.

#8 Best way to get trolled for real is to write something that either isn't true or most trolls perceive not to be true. Even if you didn't know it was true. Like if you post "Germans bombed Perl Harbor" you will get many replies calling you a retard that Japan did it, and then some conspiracy theorists claiming either FDR did it as a False Flag operation, or it was faked like the moon landing etc. But hey I found this is a way to get people to answer questions. For example if I post "Who bombed Perl Harbor" in a diary I will get a lot of STFU! replies, and a few "kill yourself" replies, and then some insults and other stuff, but never get an answer. But post a wrong statement and some trolls will post the correct one and then say how dumb you are for saying stupid stuff like that.

#9 Accuse the trolls of trolling you and being part of some massive dupe hordes type of group. I think that was a joke I tried that went horribly wrong. Even if it had joke and parody tags, people took it seriously.

#10 Annoy too many people and not be a friend of Rusty's so you cannot get away with it like his friends do. Rusty will claim you deserved the trolling and banning even if at least 100 of his friends do the same thing every day and not get banned. I found out you can be a best customer and spend up to $100 on ads and accounts, only to get banned anyway just because you were annoying people even if you didn't mean to annoy them.

But hey I stay away from K5 and am getting my sanity back, and becoming more intelligent. I broke my addiction to it, and am going to do creative and positive stuff with my life and give up trolling and counter-trolling and learn how to write programs again and study on how to write better books and make some eBooks for free via open source on BitTorrent and then sell some eBooks on Apple, Amazon.com, and BN, etc for their book readers for as cheap as 99 cents a copy. I ain't out to become a millionaire, just doing this to help people and make pay off some debts or hire some programmers to help them survive this economy when nobody else wants to hire them. Then see what we all can do together as a team.

Then again maybe I am delusional again and none of that will happen and my opinions and views are wrong. Well even so I will find a way to learn from my mistakes.