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Jan 27, 2013, 6:44:40 PM1/27/13
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Books, movies, anime, tv, anywhere? Got any favorites? Share them please.

I suspect my affinity for them was shaped by reading "Prince and Pauper" at impressionable age.
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Fanfic wise, _Crown of the Summer Court_ has a pretty hot one.

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Durandal. Oh God, to embarrassing levels. Why do I have to love an asshole AI so much?

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Ha, I was doing this just an hour ago: I got miffed at someone on Deviantart because they posted a screenshot from a show (this is against the rules...but seriously, I'm not sure that anyone cares). Then I realized I had just finished commenting favorably on someone else's screenshot, because it was from a show that I really liked, and the person who posted it had slightly better grammar. Put me in the shed out back, for I am a giant tool.
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... I haven't been a regular DA visitor for years and this still makes me viscerally angry. DA IS NOT FOR SCREENSHOTS, YOU SHOULD BE REPORTING THEM ALL.

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We're talking guilty pleasures, naughty funtimes, fandom silliness...anything!

For me, I just ate a big bar of chocolate while watching Sabrina The Teenage Witch on Youtube. Two guilty pleasures at once, and I DON'T EVEN CARE. Mwahaha. Now, I'm going to read a Stiles/Derek coffee shop AU. I love my day. :p
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Spent $50 on shit I don't need at a vintage store in Baltimore.

Do I have any use for a roll of Art Nouveau wallpaper or an Edwardian tea dress? NOPE. Do I give a fuck? ALSO NOPE.

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Jan 27, 2013, 7:19:37 PM1/27/13
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I should have mentioned - I hate woobie face too, and unfortunately, you're more likely to find him in the Hannibal/Face fics, but the authors I recced stay away from it and I think have a good grasp on his character.
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AYRT - Thanks so much for the recs! I, too, have noticed more woobie-than-ever face in the H/F pairing so I'm really thankful for these recs which don't indulge in that rubbish. Looking forward to reading these fics! :)

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Watching Pushing Daisies for the first time, and I am goddamn swooning over Lee Pace. He is SO DREAMY, you guys.

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Jan 27, 2013, 7:41:12 PM1/27/13
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I was think about Skylar White when writing the comment above, but now I'm not sure that she qualified as a canon woobie. She seems way tougher than that. Some parts of fandom really hates her guts though.
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Anon, I could rant about how Skyler has been treated for days. She's a canon woobie to me, especially in S5. Maybe she isn't physically beaten or shown at the absolute depths of emotional despair as often as Jesse is, but she gets slammed around pretty hard within the series (and worse by fandom) and she tries so heartbreakingly hard to hold it all together and make it work.

I think she is absolutely supposed to be seen as sympathetic. Walter feels a lot of her actions are emasculating and fandom seems to embrace that view without looking at things from Skyler's perspective very much. I've seen horrible complaints about her for daring to stage that intervention back in S1, for instance, as if by doing so - by feeling that her husband, the man she loves, was rejecting every action that would help to prolong his life out of sheer pride - she had been a heinous bitch who needed to keep out of her husband's affairs and was overly controlling. Ugh.

Maybe she could have handled it better and maybe she could have tried to understand Walt's position more at the time, but she's not perfect. No one on this show is. Yet none of the other characters seem to have their flaws held up against them and out of proportion and context so often as Skyler.

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Jan 27, 2013, 7:44:22 PM1/27/13
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Anon, I could rant about how Skyler has been treated for days. She's a canon woobie to me, especially in S5. Maybe she isn't physically beaten or shown at the absolute depths of emotional despair as often as Jesse is, but she gets slammed around pretty hard within the series (and worse by fandom) and she tries so heartbreakingly hard to hold it all together and make it work.

I think she is absolutely supposed to be seen as sympathetic. Walter feels a lot of her actions are emasculating and fandom seems to embrace that view without looking at things from Skyler's perspective very much. I've seen horrible complaints about her for daring to stage that intervention back in S1, for instance, as if by doing so - by feeling that her husband, the man she loves, was rejecting every action that would help to prolong his life out of sheer pride - she had been a heinous bitch who needed to keep out of her husband's affairs and was overly controlling. Ugh.

Maybe she could have handled it better and maybe she could have tried to understand Walt's position more at the time, but she's not perfect. No one on this show is. Yet none of the other characters seem to have their flaws held up against them and out of proportion and context so often as Skyler.
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+ 1,000,000

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Jan 27, 2013, 7:53:42 PM1/27/13
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Uhh, really? So you mean to say that Iron Man could hardly ever fight against Thor either, because after all the armor is extra-material not intrinsic power, right? And Thor could have hardly stood up against The Hulk in his mortal form from the Thor movie, either, so? Why exactly would you be expecting Maria Hill in a fight against a super to not be equipped with weapons from the arsenal available to her, specially when the movie actually did make a deal out of SHIELD making super-powered-level weapons (which Coulson used on Loki as well, so it's not like it would be completely out of place either, unless the point is that the clerk-type dude can use it, but not Maria Hill for some reason?)

Comics movies follow very much the same tropes of fighting and narrative as their paper-and-ink counterparts. Can't say what part of fandom you're stewing in, anon, if that's a foreign thought to you.
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Um, no. Iron Man can (and did) fight against Thor: it's in the film. Thor can (and did) fight against the Hulk: it's in the film.

Is it so really hard to believe that a non-powered human would last 2 seconds against the Hulk based on that scene (Hulk raging against Natasha, which turns into Hulk vs. Thor) in the film?

I don't care if it's Maria Hill, Coulson or Fury we're talking about here: it's the goddamn Hulk, and any weapon on board that could take him down (except some form of knockout gas) would also destroy the already-misfunctioning contraption they're flying on.

My comments are about the movie (and plot within) as it is: you can come up with all the alternate versions you want, but within the context of the movie, Maria Hlll vs. the Hulk would be laughable.

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Question: Were there ever any complains about the Stuttgart/kneeling scene? Because fuck yeah, brave Americans saving poor kneeling Germans from another dictator! Where is the Russian bad guy, by the way?
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That was Natasha, except she was already redeemed by the love of the good, white American Hawkeye, LOL.

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Patrick Wilson. It's been like three weeks now, guys, I am troubled. I am also considering buying Angels In America.

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basically, mikey way has left his wife (alicia) and is now engaged to a 19 year old model...but it's pretty clear that they got together before mikey and alicia split.

tumblr already has two accounts detailing the new couple's internet presence:
http://nowaymikeyway.tumblr.com/
http://mikeywayyouscandal.tumblr.com/post/41571079194

apparently #mikey and #alicia are trending in some twitter regions.

also, his new fiancee is an mcr fan who used to style herself after alicia and the other wives of the band.
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...He's covering the matching tattoo he and Alicia got. *sigh* I know they were ugly, but damn man.

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We're talking guilty pleasures, naughty funtimes, fandom silliness...anything!


For me, I just ate a big bar of chocolate while watching Sabrina The Teenage Witch on Youtube. Two guilty pleasures at once, and I DON'T EVEN CARE. Mwahaha. Now, I'm going to read a Stiles/Derek coffee shop AU. I love my day. :p
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I just bought the Glinda Urban Decay palette and several lip tars. I am going to be the prettiest princess witch.

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So, done.

I'm totally going to believe that the trousers survive the Hulking out both times, but he's without them after the fall. Totally absolutely.

I'm still of the opinion that Marvel must have another two superheroes they could have used instead of a tricked out non-superpowered Robin Hood and mysterious and angsty non-superpowered mercenary chick, they don't fit with the colorful supers. At least the Robin Hood ran out of arrows, so unsurprisingly he didn't have to shoot too many after that.

Unfortunately the military chick got the stupid ass writers.
The whole fight they only talk with each other when they actually in each others presences and suddenly she has to go all unsure or bragging or whatever with "Hey, guys, I can totally shut that thing down. Guys, guys, talk to me." Sorry, writers, you may have needed that portal open, there was no motivation for Nat to not close that portal first and do announcements later.

I also found out what's wrong with Captain America's costume. It was really obvious when the cards Fury ruined came into view. If you couldn't have the other guy have his winged helmet - why doesn't he have it with him, btw - then you could have allowed cap his outset feathers instead of these insets.
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"I'm still of the opinion that Marvel must have another two superheroes they could have used instead of a tricked out non-superpowered Robin Hood and mysterious and angsty non-superpowered mercenary chick, they don't fit with the colorful supers"

Yeah, variety is stupid!

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Jan 27, 2013, 9:46:47 PM1/27/13
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Was it around the dialogue? Sometimes dialogue throws off my internal tense-o-meter. I know that for me personally, if I'm writing dialogue in past tense my tags and the surrounding text might end up in past as well, even when the rest of the fic is in present.

Like(bad example): Alice sits on the edge of Bob's hoverbed. "I had a strange dream last night. I was in my house, on Earth, playing Marco Polo with Sharon. Only instead of Sharon, I’d get answers from ghosts or furniture. My legs had been cut off, and I had to find her so she could put me back together. I vividly remember chewing a telephone wire and breaking my teeth on it."
Bob winced.


I usually catch things like that when I'm editing, but not always. (It happens in reverse as well.)
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Nope. It was all over the darned place -- almost like the writer couldn't "hear" the difference between the two tenses.

Who knows. Maybe they're a time traveler and time actually does mean nothing to them!

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Allison Argent is pretty high on my list of "people I want to wrap up in blankets and make hot chocolate for" which I think is a good description of a woobie. It makes me sad that fandom doesn't agree :(
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+a gazillion. She's pretty close to top of my list of 'characters I will forgive just about anything, because mother of god, do people not notice how much shit she's been through? It's an effing miracle she's as well balanced as she is!' Do not even get me started on all my rage over how Scott treated her in the latter half of S2.


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I won't look at chapter fics that are under 10,000 words. I feel that if they are that short, they should just be posted up as a one-shot with scene breaks.
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I'll read them, but I'll also think the less of the author for not just posting it in one piece.

So. I'm petty AND self-indulgent. (Maybe I can work sloth into that by tomorrow!)

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Nope. It was all over the darned place -- almost like the writer couldn't "hear" the difference between the two tenses.

Who knows. Maybe they're a time traveler and time actually does mean nothing to them!
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It's possible that they wrote most or all of the story in present tense and then decided past worked better. Switching tenses is a bitch, and I almost always miss something, which is why I've stopped doing it and just accepted that sometimes I'm going to end up writing a long story in present.

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Hetalia? Avengers?
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Homestuck. :/

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Would it have had a big fandom like Inception etc?

Any Top Gun fanfic recs?
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Since the volleyball scene became an outright staple for comedians, I'd say yes... Even the clueless straight guys picked up on it. (But it would have to be fandom going back in time to the 80s vs releasing it modern day. Cruise has had some really weird moments lately that could be a ladyboner killer.)

I'd like to throw my hat in the ring for Point Break also.

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Ex-bandomer here. It is really weird and creepy to me that a lot of the poses between Mikey and his new fiancée and the same as poses in older pictures of him and Alicia that Alicia took.

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^this.

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Did you ever set out to write a nice little id fic which hits all your buttons and somehow find yourself knee deep in intrigue and plot? Or did your epic political saga somehow turn into PWP? Post here for all the times your writing got away from you.


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Oh god, it wasn't even supposed to be a fic just a thought-exercise to pass the time with some other fans, and now I have months of world-building and plotting for a full-on BDSM-universe re-write of canon, including a bunch of fix-it and futurefic. How did this even happen?

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Did you ever set out to write a nice little id fic which hits all your buttons and somehow find yourself knee deep in intrigue and plot? Or did your epic political saga somehow turn into PWP? Post here for all the times your writing got away from you.


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My biggest id kink is power politics.

I've kind of given up on iddy PWPs.

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Um, no. Iron Man can (and did) fight against Thor: it's in the film. Thor can (and did) fight against the Hulk: it's in the film.

Is it so really hard to believe that a non-powered human would last 2 seconds against the Hulk based on that scene (Hulk raging against Natasha, which turns into Hulk vs. Thor) in the film?

I don't care if it's Maria Hill, Coulson or Fury we're talking about here: it's the goddamn Hulk, and any weapon on board that could take him down (except some form of knockout gas) would also destroy the already-misfunctioning contraption they're flying on.

My comments are about the movie (and plot within) as it is: you can come up with all the alternate versions you want, but within the context of the movie, Maria Hlll vs. the Hulk would be laughable.
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What the fuck, anon? This did not explicitly happen in the movie =/= laughable in the context of the movie, specially given the whole universe and background context for it that exists. Are you actually saying that

a) The Thor/Hulk fight was of any narrative or plot importance in a way that could not have been cut from the movie and was included for any reason other than visual and A vs B nerdgasm quota.

b) within the context of the movie it is laughable that Maria Hill wield an RPG cannon/new SHIELD weapon and it's laughable that that weapon and running around might distract the Hulk for some moments (which was all Thor did) before the fighter pilot got in and plot continued just as canon? [when the movie also shows us that the Asgardians are on a level with the Hulk and those weapons could indeed pack a punch with the Aggardians having been based on their tech]

If so, i have no idea what the fuck you're doing in fandom itself, let alone a super-hero/comics based fandom where events directly extrapolated from canon are "laughable" to you (and similar events that did happen in canon are not)

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I deliberately refuse to re-post anything that says something like, "99% of people who read this won't have the courage to re-post it" or whatever. Fuck you. It's not that I don't have the courage, it's that I hate that shit with a burning passion.
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This x a million. No, I am not homophobic just because I didn't reblog this post about LGBT stuff, I AM queer. And the cancer ones make me even angrier because my dad died of cancer, so I'm aware of cancer, kthx, I spent a big part of my early childhood watching him go in and out of hospital and I can barely think about the last time I saw him because it upset me so much (he couldn't speak and had to point at pictures if he needed the toilet, etc), and posting a shitty forward about cancer is not going to bring him back, nor will it help anyone. Grrr. Rage. I know a woman who sends me this sort of thing all the time, stupid chain emails, and I nearly sent her an abusive email back because she sent me one about cancer.

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Watching Pushing Daisies for the first time, and I am goddamn swooning over Lee Pace. He is SO DREAMY, you guys.
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He really, really is.

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Jan 28, 2013, 5:54:41 AM1/28/13
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Requesting recs for the first fic that made you fall in love with a pairing, or the one great fic that took a crack pairing and not only maked it seem plausible, it became your OTP. Things like that!
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http://archiveofourown.org/works/421240 - Avengers movieverse, Steve/Darcy - they're not even in the same film and after this fic I couldn't get enough :-)

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Jan 28, 2013, 6:43:53 AM1/28/13
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I'll try to explain as best as I can.

Civil War is an Event, sort of like massive crossover of series. Part of 616. Affected the Avengers side of things a lot more than the X-Men side.

Young Avengers and Dark Avengers are series. Part of 616.

Different Steves: There's a Captain America in both 616 and Ultimate (he's US President in that, don't ask me why because idk). In 616, Captain America was briefly Bucky Barmes but is now Steve Rogers again.

Different Hawkeyes: In Ultimates, Clint Barton is Hawkeye. In 616, Clint Barton was Hawkeye and then he died and then Kate Bishop was Hawkeye (she's a Young Avenger) then Clint Barton was alive again and Hawkeye again and so now there are two Hawkeyes in 616 and they have adventures in the Hawkeye series.

Does this help any?
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Oh. Things are starting to make sense yeah, thanks!

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SA

Okay, a rough guide to the most high-profile Marvel characters and teams in the 616 universe. (Although I'll probably forget a lot of them.)

The Fantastic Four - Marvel's "first family". They are: Reed Richards, stretchy supergenuis; his wife Sue, the Invisible Woman; her brother Johnny, the Human Torch; and Reed's best buddy Ben Grimm, the Thing. In 616 continuity, Reed and Sue have been married a long time and have two kids, Franklin and Valeria. The F4 are mostly adventurers and explorers, and visit other worlds and different realities. Reed is considered the smartest man in the world so he's often asked to consult on problems.

The X-Men - The X-Men are all mutants: people who developed powers naturally as they aged due to a mutation in their genes, rather than getting them in an accident or whatever. As a rule, civilians in the Marvel U are prejudiced against mutants, and hate them more than other super-powered folks. As a rule, characters from the "X-books" (X-Men and its many spinoffs, most of which are called X-something) tend to interact with each other and not so much with people from other corners of the Marvel universe. Major exception: Wolverine, who's one of Marvel's most popular characters and thus tends to get shoe-horned into everything.

The Avengers - You probably know these guys from the movies. This is basically a catch-all team for heroes with superpowers who don't fit into one of the other teams, so it has a huge roster of members. In addition to the main "Avengers" comic, there are often spin-offs like "New Avengers" or "Mighty Avengers" which focus on a different group of members. "Young Avengers" and "Avengers Academy" are about teams of teenage characters. "Dark Avengers" was a team of bad guys pretending to be good guys formed by Norman Osborn during Dark Reign.

Cosmic Marvel - This covers a bunch of characters like Nova, the Silver Surfer and the Guardians of the Galaxy who live out in space. They don't interact much with the Earth-based heroes.

The "Street-Level" Characters - A bunch of characters who live in New York City, have low-level powers, and tend to deal with minor crime rather than saving the world. Includes Spider-Man, Daredevil, Iron Fist, the Heroes For Hire team and some others.

Thunderbolts - A team made up of reformed bad guys.

Misc Other Heroes and Anti-Heroes:

Black Panther - king of an African nation called Wakanda; buddy of the Fantastic Four and sometimes an Avenger
Deadpool - fast-talking mutant assassin, tends to break the fourth wall and make wacky meta-comments
Dr Strange - Marvel's main magic-using character, the Sorceror Supreme
Namor - king of the sea, mostly a hero but sometimes allies with bad guys
The Punisher - vigilante with no powers who tries to kill all villains
Winter Soldier - Captain America's old sidekick Bucky who was brainwashed into being an assassin
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Amber Liu from f(x) is everything my little heart could ever ask for omg.

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Of the various multiple universes, there's only one really complicated universe - aka the "main" comics universe aka Earth-616. Which is where you might require notes. The easiest way to tackle it, I've found, is to start with a single character, ask for recs for their appearances, keep the Marvel wiki at hand (tbh, I started out by consuming large portions of the wiki before ever touching any of the comics myself, and given this was before the present heydey of fans and ready recs, didn't have too much trouble picking it up on my own)

Starting out with shorter and more straight forward universes, there is the 2 season animated TV series, Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. It's modernized, but closer in inspiration to the above-mentioned twisty main-comics verse storylines and characters, so it's definitely good for a starting out. It's got its weaknesses, but mostly a good show. (Unfortunately it was cancelled to make way for an upcoming new Avengers animated show which will be closer to the movie verse. >:/)

Then there's the comics universe called Ultimates Universe aka Earth-1610. This is the grim gritty and "realistic" verse, origin point of SLJ as Nick Fury (movie!Clint is also very Ults inspired) Full warning, I like it, but it has some really gross moments (Hulk is a would-be-rapist and a cannibal, there's domestic violence, the heroes aren't always very heroic etc etc) and is currently going to the dogs. To read this, there's a very straight forward line of short-series. It can be divided into 4 basic "groups" - Spider-Man related, X-Men, The Ultimates (ie. The Avengers in this verse) and the Fantastic Four. You can read any one without having much to do with any other. This is a good color-coded and timeline arranged list.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?400116-Ultimate-Marvel-Reading-Order

There's a fairly short verse called Marvel Noir, which is a bunch of retellings in an non-powered early 20th c. noir-esque verse. Titles here:
http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Earth-90214/Appearances?display=page&sort=mostvisited

Marvel Adventures is a fun shiny all-ages imprint universe, can also be a good starting point. Stories are mostly short and stand-alone.
http://marvel.wikia.com/Marvel_Adventures
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Thanks! I'll give Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes a try first then.

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Deryni Books - Derry. Just... Derry.

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Mmm, I do believe there was canon whump that included non-con slash (at least to the point of a kiss).
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Mmmm... yes. :) I just reread the series recently and had actually forgotten (or been too young to "get it" the first time) how non-con-ish some of those Wencit scenes are. (Beyond the general lack of consent in the whole mind-control scenario to begin with.)

I've never quite forgiven K. Kurtz for the lack of real follow-up to the Derry plot in that book. (And the fact that she did it AGAIN with no follow-up in KKB. :( )

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What the fuck, anon? This did not explicitly happen in the movie =/= laughable in the context of the movie, specially given the whole universe and background context for it that exists. Are you actually saying that

a) The Thor/Hulk fight was of any narrative or plot importance in a way that could not have been cut from the movie and was included for any reason other than visual and A vs B nerdgasm quota.

b) within the context of the movie it is laughable that Maria Hill wield an RPG cannon/new SHIELD weapon and it's laughable that that weapon and running around might distract the Hulk for some moments (which was all Thor did) before the fighter pilot got in and plot continued just as canon? [when the movie also shows us that the Asgardians are on a level with the Hulk and those weapons could indeed pack a punch with the Aggardians having been based on their tech]

If so, i have no idea what the fuck you're doing in fandom itself, let alone a super-hero/comics based fandom where events directly extrapolated from canon are "laughable" to you (and similar events that did happen in canon are not)
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Your reading comprehension is laughable, and your anger in this discussion is pathetic.

Your initial comment was Exactly what did Thor do that couldn't have been replaced by 'Maria Hill'? If you want to change the entire scene by magically adding a SHIELD weapon that Fury already implied wasn't in existence in the film (if it was, Natasha would have had it ready just in case when she went to bring in Bruce; also, they wouldn't have had a similar scene with Coulson using a SHIELD weapon against Loki - to little effect, I might add), you go ahead and do so.

I have no idea what the fuck you're doing in fandom itself

Very classy, nonnie. You can't make a convincing argument given the context of the movie, and thus resort to this. I'll stay in fandom, thank you very much, and just ignore the likes of you.

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I've long since come to accept that my id loves lovingly detailed plot. Trying to keep my iddy stuff short just isn't going to happen. My narrative kinks are just so much stronger and more delicious than my sexual ones.
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+1 with a backstory.

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Or a character with heavy emotional baggage and traumatic history, that the canon clearly tries to make the audience feel sympathy/affection for, but the fandom just isn't having it? Can you think of some, meme?

I think a lot of female characters would qualify, actually.

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Nate from Leverage. When the fandom did work with him, it usually focused on his not-so-evil masterminding or moments of slightly drunken, paternal compassion and ignored the woobie, melt-down manpain of his canonical backstory.

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Does anyone have any recs for academic blogs/websites they follow? I'm temporarily in an utterly mind-numbing job, having finished a PhD last year, and while I don't miss many things about doctoral study, I am missing actually making my brain work once in a while. My field was literary theory and new media studies, but recs in any discipline would be welcomed; I like learning new things. French or Spanish language recs would also be appreciated, as I'm trying not to let my languages slip away from me.
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Perhaps UnderstandingSociety?
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Nonnie who read everything on the older, easier site would love to learn an easier way to reread Elfquest now! Because ARGH ARGH I HATE THE NAVIGATION.

(I haven't read Final Quest yet. One page a week is too WIP-y for me.)
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Ack, sorry nonnie, I didn't see this until now. I hope you're still around...

The bizarre javascript navigation the Pinis put on their comic is just a front for a bunch of jpgs.

So you can go here: http://www.elfquest.com/gallery/OnlineComics/ and that should give you a bunch of folders, one for each series. (So like OQ is the Original Quest, SABM is Siege at Blue Mountain, etc.) Inside those are folders for the individual issues, and within that, the actual scans of the pages.

So what I did to make myself a little (...or a lot...) less frustrated was just grab all the images a chapter at a time and view them locally using a basic image viewer. Way better, IMHO, than the terrible javascript navigation whatsit.

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What are you watching/reading to distract yourselves from your misery? (Feel-better recs and talking about what you're eating is also acceptable.) For a more general question, what's your go-to canon for when you're feeling cruddy and need to recuperate?
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I've had some type of radioactive mega sniffles since the beginning of the year. Mostly I'm fine, but my nose is running near constantly and I can break into a high fever from one moment to the next, which is kind of a pain since I can't take time off. The first week back to work after Christmas break I also had a downright destructive cough - I even got sent home by my boss one day which TOTALLY wasn't embarrassing at all.

I've been self-medicating with chicken soup at home and fennel tea and ribleaf syrup at work, but it's still a pain... and it's not improving much, mostly because I have to use public transportation - best way to make sure I collect as many bugs as possible :(

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"DA

Mind if I use this data to make a chart? (How does one link it to the meme, anyway)?

Here is one with Nonnie or Nonny breakdown by age.

(Btw, any chart requests?)

Does this work?"

[embedded chart]


Yes, it works beautifully and I feel incredibly pained to have to delete your comment because even for lovely charts we have the no embeds rule. So (now that I've reposted your comment text), any chance you'd be willing to post a non-embed link to the chart instead? Pretty please MANY thank yous!
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The links I gave previously seem to be having problems, so here's the reuploaded charts: (I've just copied the comment from the new meme)

Okay, I've uploaded the charts to imgur, so hopefully there won't be problems:

http://imgur.com/a/KCT7y#0

By the way, someone wanted to know how much Comics (manga/manhua) and Comics (western) overlapped:

Manga/Manhua and Western: 80
Manga/Manhua alone: 109
Western comics alone: 100

For comparison, here's some anime data:
Anime Alone 65
Anime + Manga/Manhua 171
Manga/Manhua Alone 18


Anime Alone 156
Anime + Comics (Western) 90
Comics (Western) Alone 91


Another interesting fact: Only 2 nonnies are into book (English) fandoms alone, out of 444 who selected Books (English Language).

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Did you ever set out to write a nice little id fic which hits all your buttons and somehow find yourself knee deep in intrigue and plot? Or did your epic political saga somehow turn into PWP? Post here for all the times your writing got away from you.


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A series of silly jokes I had with a fandom friend about X-Men characters all being in different bands has me writing an "oral history" of these characters in bands during the 1970s and doing way more research than I thought I would on what venues etc. were big at the time. It's very centered around my hometown, I haven't gotten to the slash, and nobody except for her has read it. But I want to make up complex fake discographies!

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We're talking guilty pleasures, naughty funtimes, fandom silliness...anything!

For me, I just ate a big bar of chocolate while watching Sabrina The Teenage Witch on Youtube. Two guilty pleasures at once, and I DON'T EVEN CARE. Mwahaha. Now, I'm going to read a Stiles/Derek coffee shop AU. I love my day. :p
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X-Men: First Class AUs. The more specific and rom-com-y they are, the better. I love dumb, fluffy stories where Erik and Charles are bakers or baristas or a CEO and a prostitute or really anything ridiculous at all, and everyone rallies around them and gets them together...

I want to write my own, but the two ideas I have turned into full-blown stories, and one has a lot of worldbuilding and the other is pretty angsty. I don't think I have the knack to write the fluff I love to read!

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I don't know why, but I'm weirdly surprised that the second biggest age range is late 20s/early 30s. I guess I've gotten so used to the young skew of tumblr that I'd forgotten how old early LJ adopters probably were.
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I joined LJ about ten years ago, and was 23 or 24 at the time, so. Not the earliest adopter but definitely in the middle of a whole bunch of people joining around the same time, with probably a ten-year age spread to either side of me, at the time.

So, yeah. Not very surprised, myself.

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A good man takes a job, which is to bring a bad man to a train that will take him to a cell. The book and the first movie made had the two men talking in a room all the time, and at the end they are friends. The second movie has them running around and using guns and riding horses a lot, and the end is more sad.
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Since I do actually like to converse at least minimally, this is incredibly annoying and discourages me from using the site. Yes, yes, I can reblog things to reply, but I don't want to have to make a damn reblog post for every one-sentence remark I would like to make to another user. I don't want to have to reblog every single thing in order to comment on it.
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No, both those things were the same before -- I agree they suck, but it seems like most people who are having trouble were using missing E, and I think Tumblr was trying specifically to disable that. Which also sucks, but if you don't use missing E, it's not really that different. (I actually like the popup reblog, although it seems slower.)

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Silly brain candy YA or romance novels with PoC or lesbians in them?
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Jacqueline Carey's Santa Olivia. The main character is a biracial lesbian teenager. The first book is dystopian but relatively light, and the sequal is a very fluffy lesbian romance with some action-y stuff.

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