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Jan 16, 2013, 4:52:50 PM1/16/13
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I don't think we've done one of these in a while. Name a canon that hasn't been filmed or staged, and suggest your dream cast. Or a remake you'd love to see happen. Got a canon that belongs on screen/stage and you can't think of a cast? Post it and see what folks come up with in the comments!

I'll start. I really want to see Kevin Kline play the title role in Man Of La Mancha. Terrence Mann as Carrasco, Alan Rickman as the Innkeeper, Idina Menzel as Aldonza. (Disclaimer: I'm not actually an Idina fan. I just think she'd be really great.) Maybe Josh Groban as the Priest, for star power.

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Lymond nonnies! Young Peter O'Toole would of course be the perfect Lymond, but is there anyone around now who could do it justice? And whenever I see Mia Wasikowska, I see Philippa...

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I realized that this OT3 fic I'm writing is going to need a threesome sex scene. Which maybe seems obvious, but I had kind of planned to get away with a few one-on-one sex scenes between the various characters - now though I think it would really make more sense to have the three characters come all together toward the end, both emotionally and sexually. But I'm far from being an expert porn writer and I have never written a sex scene involving multiple people before.
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What's the configuration (m/m/f, m/f/f, m/m/m, f/f/f)? What are the dynamics among the three -- would it be appropriate for two characters to focus on the third in bed for their first time together, would it be 100% equal attention all around, would any of the characters particularly enjoy watching the other two make love, do you imagine anyone particularly liking to give or receive attention? There are a bazillion potential progressions for a threesome sex scene. I could try to give some ideas if you'd like.

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I completely disagree. Your argument sounds similar to "Well, they're married, so the husband is entitled to sex anytime and it's not rape if she's reluctant." Being in a relationship doesn't give either partner a constant green light, IMO. The second someone expresses discomfort with being pawed at, no matter what the reason or relationship is, consent should get called into question. OP's scenario is very clearly dubcon.
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"discomfort with being pawed at"? Really? That really doesn't sound like the scenario the OP was talking about, or reasonable description of a happy, healthy relationship.

You don't have to believe that there's no such thing as rape in marriage to recognise that there's a fundamental difference in expectation between people in a long term relationship and people who've just met.

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It is actually impossible to explain the fandom popularity of the movie War Horse without the use of at least one of the following words: RPF, Gay Porn, Sherlock, Loki, Cumberbatch, Hiddleston.

My parents, the anti-fans are currently watching the film. Instead of staring soulfully into the eyes of some suddenly popular UK actors, they are predicting with frightening accuracy what the next plot point and character death will be. Apparently it was a Saturday Night Live sketch? Either way, I'm not going to enlighten them.

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I don't think there's been a book recs thread yet... and I need a REC! ♥

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As an American English speaker, there are certain people that have entered the common idiom, like Einstein to mean smart ("He's no Einstein") or Shakespeare to mean a good writer ("A regular Shakespeare!"). Memers with other first languages, do you use different people to mean those sorts of things?
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In Norwegian, using real people for this would be unusual (I can't think of any real examples) but there are numerous ficational characters used to evoke particular character traits.

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I saw that there is a bingo for photography now, called snapshot_bingo, and got really excited for a moment. Then I saw that it's run by our rape apologist friend amadi.

So that and the Klaus Kinski thread from before made me wonder, where do you anons draw your lines when it comes to enjoying something while the creator is being a horrible human being? Do you have different standards for fandom and real life?
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I try to avoid finding out about writers' or actors' politics or personal lives or politics. I guess there are circumstances where knowing more would increase my enjoyment of their work, but there's also the risk where knowing would spoil it.

I hate it when people go out of their way to point out stuff like, "hey that writer's a misogynist douche" or "hey, that actor's a horrible homophobe".

Fuck you, I don't want to know!

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I know sometimes it's hard to articulate why a kink works for you, but would some a/b/o-appreciating nonnies talk to me about what it is you like about the trope/AUs? Is it the porn? The power dynamics? Is there a lot of worldbuilding involved? Something else I'm overlooking?

No judgment, this nonnie who doesn't share the kink is just curious about its popularity.
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Subject: Re: a/b/o, w-h-y?
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Thanks for chatting about this with me, nonnies! I see a lot of you saying that a/b/o scenarios are, among other things, a reliable source of several other kinks that I don't share, so its combination of huge popularity and failure to do much for me is far less mystifying to me now.

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Copy-paste your AO3 stats in this thread. Maybe with notes about what fandom you're in for all the meme's stat-comparing purposes. :D
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Very large fandom, I have 17 works posted and one yuletide.

author subscriptions: 148
kudos: 4436
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I don't think there's been a book recs thread yet... and I need a REC! ♥
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I'm maybe looking for some REALLY GOOD character-driven SF/F, and series of non-excessive lengths would be good. I have loved the Vorkosigan series, and really liked Abhorsen, stuff like that. I also love historical things like Aubrey-Maturn, Hornblower, etc. (O'Brien's writing = to die for.) And humor! Like in Fafhrd and Grey Mouser. Fun, character-driven stuff.

I've tried recently reading some random fantasy and the tropey fantasy doesn't do it for me, unless the writing is stellar. (I started the Green Rider but it was so mediocre to me.) I don't go so much for SF if the SF is too hard and more about the science than the interpersonal relationships. (i.e., no Catherine Asaro)

Thank you!

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I don't think there's been a book recs thread yet... and I need a REC! ♥
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What sort of books are you looking for, nonnie?

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What sort of books are you looking for, nonnie?
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Oh oops, should have refreshed.

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Thanks for chatting about this with me, nonnies! I see a lot of you saying that a/b/o scenarios are, among other things, a reliable source of several other kinks that I don't share, so its combination of huge popularity and failure to do much for me is far less mystifying to me now.
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Subject: Re: a/b/o, w-h-y?
I actually really appreciate you asking about this, as I am struggling to write a story using this trope. I have an idea and a story, but not sure if it is what people are looking for when they think a/b/o, so this thread has been very helpful to me.


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I realized that this OT3 fic I'm writing is going to need a threesome sex scene. Which maybe seems obvious, but I had kind of planned to get away with a few one-on-one sex scenes between the various characters - now though I think it would really make more sense to have the three characters come all together toward the end, both emotionally and sexually. But I'm far from being an expert porn writer and I have never written a sex scene involving multiple people before.
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Subject: Re: What scene are you struggling with?
From a purely logistical standpoint, try drawing stick figure diagrams. Figuring out exactly where you want everyone to go really helps block out a scene and makes it much easier to keep track of wayward limbs.

I've only written one threesome scene, but making a couple quick doodles really helped smooth out the choreography.

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Deus Ex Machina. When a character has spent the whole story agonising over or preparing for some terrible choice and then right at the end - SURPRISE! Someone pulls a magic solution out of the air and makes it all irrelevant.

(Yes, A:tLA, I'm looking at you.)
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Yu-Gi-Oh does this a lot, too. My son and I used to joke about the "Yu-Gi-Oh" effect all the time, because no matter how dire the battle became, there was always this super powerful secret card that gets drawn so the good guys always win.

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I hate it when I'm reading a fic that has 50,000 words of slow, drawn out, thoughtful characterisation and well-crafted UST while the POV character gradually comes to terms with the fact they have feelings for someone they never thought they could... and then in the final thousand words they blurt, "I love you," the other character instantly says, "Oh, yay, I've secretly fallen in love with you too!" they immediately strip their clothes off to act out generic smut scene 101, and then They Lived Happily Ever After, The End.

So, fellow nonnies, have you got particular story setups that frequently annoy you by chucking all the good stuff out of the window with the way they get resolved?
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Anything that requires a character, especially a female character, to make a major change and overhaul her entire life so she can please the wishes of her love interest. For example, Sandy's complete change in appearance/character at the end of Grease, or Rachel deciding to give up Paris to go back to Ross at the end of Friends.

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I hate it when I'm reading a fic that has 50,000 words of slow, drawn out, thoughtful characterisation and well-crafted UST while the POV character gradually comes to terms with the fact they have feelings for someone they never thought they could... and then in the final thousand words they blurt, "I love you," the other character instantly says, "Oh, yay, I've secretly fallen in love with you too!" they immediately strip their clothes off to act out generic smut scene 101, and then They Lived Happily Ever After, The End.

So, fellow nonnies, have you got particular story setups that frequently annoy you by chucking all the good stuff out of the window with the way they get resolved?
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Well, I just finished Mockingjay, so...that.

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I'm maybe looking for some REALLY GOOD character-driven SF/F, and series of non-excessive lengths would be good. I have loved the Vorkosigan series, and really liked Abhorsen, stuff like that. I also love historical things like Aubrey-Maturn, Hornblower, etc. (O'Brien's writing = to die for.) And humor! Like in Fafhrd and Grey Mouser. Fun, character-driven stuff.

I've tried recently reading some random fantasy and the tropey fantasy doesn't do it for me, unless the writing is stellar. (I started the Green Rider but it was so mediocre to me.) I don't go so much for SF if the SF is too hard and more about the science than the interpersonal relationships. (i.e., no Catherine Asaro)

Thank you!
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Two fantasy series I've really enjoyed were the Farseer Trilogy and the Kushiel's Legacy Trilogy!

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DA
But saying "don't read the fic" is almost like saying, "too bad, too sad, you can't participate in the fandom until the third movie comes out," especially if their enjoyment of fandom doesn't only include graphics, and that's kind of ridiculous. No one's asking for fandom to cater to one specific person's spoiler-warning needs. But I don't think it's asking too much to expect people to make note in a visible way when a fic they're writing takes place after the events of the film.
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It totally is, but my point remains that if fic is important to you and your fandom participation then you have to tread warily if you absolutely don't want to read the book (or even a synopsis of the book) and want to remain unspoiled. If fic and fandom participation are so important to you, you have to run the risk of spoilers. So yeah, it's crappy to say, but if you're going into fannish spaces where a large number (idk if it's the majority) of fans know the ending to a canon, even if it's a different medium, you have to be careful.

I completely agree with you that it shouldn't be too much to ask for people to clearly label their fic, but to expect it? This is the internet.

I know the turn-around was much shorter between the HP books and movies, and I was never in the fandom, but do you have any clue how people handled it? Or was everyone reading the books before seeing the movies? Or same with the Hunger Games?

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If you want to get philosophical about it...we kinda do have that ability, it's just so ordinary we take it for granted. Empathy, facial expressions, language - they enable us to know exactly what another person is thinking and feeling. It's not perfect, but it's still pretty damned amazing, an ability that most creatures on this earth not only don't have, but don't even know they don't have.
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IDK if I'd go so far as to say "they enable us to know exactly what another person is thinking and feeling", since we all "read" other people through our own imperfect lens. Plus, many people are good at concealing some part of themselves from others, while others are not-so-good at expressing themselves in a way that others read accurately.

But, with those caveats, I think this is a lovely thought, Nonnie. Empathy is rad! ♥

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On compartmentalizing.

One thing that I wish got brought up more (looking at you, tumblr) is that people have different levels of compartmentalization, and some things that will ping one person won't ping another.

For example, I adore Tolkien in spite of his very, very Eurocentric world-view and lack of female characters. I find his writing beautiful enough, and his themes meaningful enough, that I love to read him anyway. On the other hand, Christopher Nolan, who is similarly bad at women (maybe worse, in his own way), drives me mad, because I generally dislike his themes and style (Momento and the Prestige excepted).

And I wish that liking problematic things which someone else doesn't like didn't automatically get you pounced on. I mean, you can dislike Lord of the Rings because there are no black people, or you can dislike it because you think the writing's boring, or both, but denying that it has any worth to anyone is ridiculous and infuriating.

I see a lot of vitriol about this on tumblr, where they're not just saying "please acknowledge that this work has problems and some people may not enjoy it because of those problems", but saying that if a work has any flaws it's not worth reading and you can't take anything of value from it. And that's silly. Art is just about the most personal experience we have. Denying someone else meaning because a work isn't perfect is going to get you nowhere, because there is no such thing as a perfect work of art, or a perfect creator, and even creators who do horrible things are capable of expressing something important about what it means to be human.

(Ugh this is not very coherent. Sorry.)
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I adore Tolkien in spite of his very, very Eurocentric world-view

I'm sure this comment will demonstrate the depths of my SJ naivety and probably start some wank, but I have to ask... what exactly else would you expect a European writer writing about European mythology to be, apart from Eurocentric? I mean, sure, Tolkien is Eurocentric, but given it was his deliberate intention to write his works based on Norse and Anglo-saxon mythology, I kind of fail to see how that's an insult in this case. I mean, if European mythology is not of interest to you, no, Tolkien is probably not a guy you want to read, but that's a matter of personal taste, not a problem with Tolkien.

TBH, I part genuinely don't understand and part find it slightly irksome the suggestion that it is somehow wrong for European writers to write about their own heritage (especially given their chances of being accused of appropriation by the same people if they write about someone else's).

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I'm maybe looking for some REALLY GOOD character-driven SF/F, and series of non-excessive lengths would be good. I have loved the Vorkosigan series, and really liked Abhorsen, stuff like that. I also love historical things like Aubrey-Maturn, Hornblower, etc. (O'Brien's writing = to die for.) And humor! Like in Fafhrd and Grey Mouser. Fun, character-driven stuff.

I've tried recently reading some random fantasy and the tropey fantasy doesn't do it for me, unless the writing is stellar. (I started the Green Rider but it was so mediocre to me.) I don't go so much for SF if the SF is too hard and more about the science than the interpersonal relationships. (i.e., no Catherine Asaro)

Thank you!
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I like Jon Courtenay Grimwood's Arabesk trilogy. It's a SF/alternate history series set in a 21st century liberal Islamic North Africa. I'm also a fan of Bujold and O'Brien so our tastes seem quite similar.

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DA. It's possible to discuss things without spoiling the whole thing. Don't most professional reviews avoid spoilers while still managing to discuss the ideas and themes of the work?

If I'm going to talk about something really in-depth I'll usually have a non-spoiler section and then a spoiler section under a cut or in a different post.
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I think we're using "spoiler" in a different sense - I'd count ideas and themes of the work as being "spoilers" (along with actors, costuming, setting, etc), which is why I avoid reading reviews if I'm going to be watching something.

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I once saw someone complaining about being spoiled that the Spartans die in "300".

They were American - is Ancient Greece and wars with Persia not covered in school in USA?
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CA nonnie here, we definitely covered the Battle of Thermopylae in 7th grade and again in high school.

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I think that's a fairly standard seduction trope?

To seduce someone is: To lead away from duty, accepted principles, or proper conduct and also: To induce to engage in sex.
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I'm getting the feeling that it's common, but there's no specific name. (Like, seduction covers a lot more range than what I'm thinking of). Thanks though!

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I'm maybe looking for some REALLY GOOD character-driven SF/F, and series of non-excessive lengths would be good. I have loved the Vorkosigan series, and really liked Abhorsen, stuff like that. I also love historical things like Aubrey-Maturn, Hornblower, etc. (O'Brien's writing = to die for.) And humor! Like in Fafhrd and Grey Mouser. Fun, character-driven stuff.

I've tried recently reading some random fantasy and the tropey fantasy doesn't do it for me, unless the writing is stellar. (I started the Green Rider but it was so mediocre to me.) I don't go so much for SF if the SF is too hard and more about the science than the interpersonal relationships. (i.e., no Catherine Asaro)

Thank you!
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Have you read Diana Wynne Jones? If not, definitely go for some of her stuff. Her books range from children's lit to adult, but her books for younger readers are often just as interesting and dark in places as her adult work.

Most of the recs I can think of are YA, actually. I just read Skin Hunger by Kathleen Duey and really enjoyed it--it focuses on two characters, Hahp, who is being trained to be a magician in a rather sadistic way, and Sadima, who lives a while before that and is involved in the discovery of magic, sort of. It's good, though creepy.

I also recently read Bitterblue, the third book in the Graceling trilogy. The whole series is quite good, and i really appreciated the way Kristin Cashore didn't back away from the unpleasant realities she'd set up in the earlier books.

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As an American English speaker, there are certain people that have entered the common idiom, like Einstein to mean smart ("He's no Einstein") or Shakespeare to mean a good writer ("A regular Shakespeare!"). Memers with other first languages, do you use different people to mean those sorts of things?
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What an interesting question! I've never thought about that before, but now I want to know too.

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I once saw someone complaining about being spoiled that the Spartans die in "300".

They were American - is Ancient Greece and wars with Persia not covered in school in USA?
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NJ nonnie here - we definitely covered it in high school.

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I saw that there is a bingo for photography now, called snapshot_bingo, and got really excited for a moment. Then I saw that it's run by our rape apologist friend amadi.


So that and the Klaus Kinski thread from before made me wonder, where do you anons draw your lines when it comes to enjoying something while the creator is being a horrible human being? Do you have different standards for fandom and real life?
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Well, if I know someone personally through fandom, I might not be able to enjoy their work/not want to participate in their events just because they're a jerk. Very, very rarely, it's intentionally excluding someone I think has done something unforgivable. Much more often, it's just that I don't really want to deal with them, or I think of them when I read their work.

The bar's a lot higher for content producers I don't know. For me, it's not a moral issue, so much as I just feel icky sometimes watching someone's movie and knowing what they've done.

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I'd rather talk about this, because I didn't really see anything wrong with that nonnycat was saying. So yeah, who is this person?
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A popular blogger who is also an editor at Haikasoru, which does English translations of Japanese science fiction novels.

He's openly a troll; sometimes a force for good, sometimes not.

Good: He once took apart Wail Soulfully in a hilarious series of posts in which, egged on by Nick's skillful trolling, WS said all sorts of ridiculous and self-contradictory things. (The other thing I recall about that thread was Cija calling WS an "extruded plastic dingus," which instantly became one of my favorite insults of all time.

Bad: He's a huge fan of Winterfox/Requires Hate, and has promoted enough that he is probably partly responsible for her current level of success. He's one of the crowd who defends her death threats as rhetoric, claiming that it's not a real threat unless it is phrased as "I will [murder/mutilate/beat up] you." He says that saying "It would be great if someone [murdered/mutilated/beat up] you" is not a threat and so is fine.

Bad: He's also a huge fan and promoter of Cat Valente (aka Yuki Onna) and was extremely active in promoting her work early on. Obviously this is not as bad as promoting WF, given that Cat is merely pretentious and annoying and has never, to my knowledge, threatened anyone with violence. But I still put it in the negative column.

Also, he's a Marxist and likes to rag on American leftists for being insufficiently left. Unlike WS, Nick actually does come from a working class background.

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I don't think there's been a book recs thread yet... and I need a REC! ♥
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I'm looking for descriptive high-fantasy with great emphasis on character back story & world-building in the same realm as Lord of the Rings. I've read a slew of Arthurian-inspired fantasy & that doesn't really do it for me. I like intrigue but at it's core, I want there to be obvious character growth & characters I can connect with.

Am I just looking in the wrong place?
Bonus: I'd be beyond elated if there was a canon gay couple that wasn't just used as pandering to the base audience.

...& now I wait.

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I adore Tolkien in spite of his very, very Eurocentric world-view


I'm sure this comment will demonstrate the depths of my SJ naivety and probably start some wank, but I have to ask... what exactly else would you expect a European writer writing about European mythology to be, apart from Eurocentric? I mean, sure, Tolkien is Eurocentric, but given it was his deliberate intention to write his works based on Norse and Anglo-saxon mythology, I kind of fail to see how that's an insult in this case. I mean, if European mythology is not of interest to you, no, Tolkien is probably not a guy you want to read, but that's a matter of personal taste, not a problem with Tolkien.

TBH, I part genuinely don't understand and part find it slightly irksome the suggestion that it is somehow wrong for European writers to write about their own heritage (especially given their chances of being accused of appropriation by the same people if they write about someone else's).
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+a billion to everything you said. Tolkien wasn't trying to write an inclusive fantasy or invent a genre; he was writing an English saga to match up to the Norse ones. This is also why his writing is the way it is and why there are songs everywhere and not many women except a very notable shieldmaiden with a "no man" trope straight out of mythology. It is why Bilbo stole a cup from Beowulf's dragon Smaug and why there was a riddle contest at all.

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Name a canon, a character, or a ship, and other anons will reply with songs they think fit!
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Tex, Red vs. Blue!

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I like Jon Courtenay Grimwood's Arabesk trilogy. It's a SF/alternate history series set in a 21st century liberal Islamic North Africa. I'm also a fan of Bujold and O'Brien so our tastes seem quite similar.
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Also for space opera I'd say Ian M Banks, although he is less light-hearted than Bujold. The Player of Games and Use of Weapons from the Culture series and Feersum Endjinn are probably the best I think

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I once saw someone complaining about being spoiled that the Spartans die in "300".

They were American - is Ancient Greece and wars with Persia not covered in school in USA?
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Americans are lucky that anything is covered in school in some places. I remember School officials in Texas openly trying to rewrite history books to make it reflect Republican values. I think they may have succeeded.

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I actually really appreciate you asking about this, as I am struggling to write a story using this trope. I have an idea and a story, but not sure if it is what people are looking for when they think a/b/o, so this thread has been very helpful to me.

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Impromptu fic research thread! ;D Good luck with your story, Nonnie!

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your write four grown ass men like they're twenty-something girls

...so twenty-somethings aren't adults? Or is it only twenty-something girls? Either way, lol what.
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AYRT - eek. That whole thing is riddled with typos and proof of why I should not meme on painkillers and cold meds.

I meant teenage girls. Ooops.

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Today was my first day in one of my classes of the semester. Our instructor asked me what my favorite movie was, and when I said Moulin Rouge, I heard a few audible groans from the room. I know that I should expand my movie watching, especially since I'm a film major, but honestly, some of the movies that I really love aren't the Gold Standard of Filmmaking. I want to write movies (or TV shows) that fall into the vein of things I like: more comedic things that are lighthearted but not completely devoid of substance, and sometimes within my major I feel like you either have to like the super-serious stuff and only the super-serious stuff or you're a hack.

I know it's kind of personal, but it just made me wonder if anyone on meme is in kind of the same situation. If you're a student in a more creative field of study, do you feel like your tastes seem lesser than some other people's?
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I had a film student friend in college who answered that question with "Top Gun" and got a similar reaction. Her take on it, and I agree, is that favorite does not mean best and the rest of the class were a group of pretentious assholes.

Amusingly, unlike the pretentious assholes, she is actually doing something related to her major.

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AYRT, too

And can I also whine about a fic that's labeled with pairing A/B, only to have it end on the last page as A/C, because A/C is the writers OTP?

Can I whine further about people who then flock all over the fic because A/C is one of the fandom's Big Pairing, so they see the fic as redeemed because it ends up with the "correct" pairing?

Sorry, today I am bitter. Please have some cheese to go with all my whine.
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oh man i am SO there with you. my fave paring is a rarepair that is CONSTANTLY being used as a stepping stone for the Fandom Juggernaut and it makes me want to scream.

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Today was my first day in one of my classes of the semester. Our instructor asked me what my favorite movie was, and when I said Moulin Rouge, I heard a few audible groans from the room. I know that I should expand my movie watching, especially since I'm a film major, but honestly, some of the movies that I really love aren't the Gold Standard of Filmmaking. I want to write movies (or TV shows) that fall into the vein of things I like: more comedic things that are lighthearted but not completely devoid of substance, and sometimes within my major I feel like you either have to like the super-serious stuff and only the super-serious stuff or you're a hack.

I know it's kind of personal, but it just made me wonder if anyone on meme is in kind of the same situation. If you're a student in a more creative field of study, do you feel like your tastes seem lesser than some other people's?
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Cary Mulligan's favorite movie is Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. A creative field is her profession, but her favorite movie is still something that would seem "lesser."

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+a billion to everything you said. Tolkien wasn't trying to write an inclusive fantasy or invent a genre; he was writing an English saga to match up to the Norse ones. This is also why his writing is the way it is and why there are songs everywhere and not many women except a very notable shieldmaiden with a "no man" trope straight out of mythology. It is why Bilbo stole a cup from Beowulf's dragon Smaug and why there was a riddle contest at all.
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+ 2 billion. Accusing Tolkien of Eurocentrism seems to be an extension of a trend of accusing American fantasy writers of Eurocentrism for setting all their works in pseudo-medieval Europe - a claim which is not without substance, but Tolkien is not American, he's a European writing a European myth. People are allowed to write their own stories, fer crying out loud.

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Copy-paste your AO3 stats in this thread. Maybe with notes about what fandom you're in for all the meme's stat-comparing purposes. :D
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Works: 15

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I'm maybe looking for some REALLY GOOD character-driven SF/F, and series of non-excessive lengths would be good. I have loved the Vorkosigan series, and really liked Abhorsen, stuff like that. I also love historical things like Aubrey-Maturn, Hornblower, etc. (O'Brien's writing = to die for.) And humor! Like in Fafhrd and Grey Mouser. Fun, character-driven stuff.

I've tried recently reading some random fantasy and the tropey fantasy doesn't do it for me, unless the writing is stellar. (I started the Green Rider but it was so mediocre to me.) I don't go so much for SF if the SF is too hard and more about the science than the interpersonal relationships. (i.e., no Catherine Asaro)

Thank you!
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I just finished the first book (The Lies of Locke Lamora) of the Gentlemen Bastards Sequence by Scott Lynch and am kind of obsessed with the world and the characters, although I'm not sure if it qualifies for "non-excessive length" given that only two of the projected seven books are currently published.

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I adore Tolkien in spite of his very, very Eurocentric world-view


I'm sure this comment will demonstrate the depths of my SJ naivety and probably start some wank, but I have to ask... what exactly else would you expect a European writer writing about European mythology to be, apart from Eurocentric? I mean, sure, Tolkien is Eurocentric, but given it was his deliberate intention to write his works based on Norse and Anglo-saxon mythology, I kind of fail to see how that's an insult in this case. I mean, if European mythology is not of interest to you, no, Tolkien is probably not a guy you want to read, but that's a matter of personal taste, not a problem with Tolkien.

TBH, I part genuinely don't understand and part find it slightly irksome the suggestion that it is somehow wrong for European writers to write about their own heritage (especially given their chances of being accused of appropriation by the same people if they write about someone else's).
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+ 1

I think many people don't realise that Tolkien wrote about themes like war and the fellowship of men in battle situations because that was what he knew. He served in the battle of the Somme when he was 24! Almost ALL his friends died in the war!


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One month from release date in the first country it was released. If you are in fandom, or if you want to be in a particular movie's fandom you find a way of getting the movie. For example, The Avengers was released in a lot of countries before it was in the US, at least commercially (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/releaseinfo).
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Are you honestly saying that, to remain unspoiled in fandom, it's the burden of a fan to find and illegally download the film, and not on other fans to wait longer than one month (during which the film may not even have been released in theaters where they are)?

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I was backreading some of our fic crit lately, so I was curious, what do you think constitutes good fannish writing? Is it the same as good profic writing? What matters: phrasing, plots, characterization?

I'm not thinking of anyone in particular, I'm just curious about how people think of good writing, since it's so hard to define.
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Besides the basic good spelling/grammar/punctuation - consistency in characterization both with the canon (as much as possible given premises) and throughout the fic (changing is fine, as long as the process is shown), lack of plot holes, a plot or premise that's interesting (character studies are fine too), well-done dialogue that sounds like the characters...

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Snuff, by Terry Pratchett, because I love Discworld. Or I used to, anyway. Vimes used to be one of my fave characters but this book is not working for me at all which is making me rather sad.
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Sub-thread OP here. I finally finished Snuff and pretty much agree with most of the anons above - the pace did pick up but it never stopped feeling slightly 'off' to me, and the goblin storyline did feel like a re-tread.

I thought it was a marked step down in quality from I Shall Wear Midnight and Unseen Academicals - with most series this long I'd usually just attribute this to burn-out, but given it's Pratchett it's really sad to think this is a sign of his overall declining health. :(

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Nonnies, what fandom do you end up going back to when things get stressful or you're burned out on your current fandoms or nostalgia rears its head? Personally I've been going back through bookmarked SGA fics that are years old (for some reason I find them very relaxing and enjoyable), but what do you go back to?
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LotR, Sam/Frodo Shire!fic. It's so soppy, and sweet, and lovely - even when it's angsty, cos how many of the old school deny you that happy ending?? <3

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A popular blogger who is also an editor at Haikasoru, which does English translations of Japanese science fiction novels.


He's openly a troll; sometimes a force for good, sometimes not.

Good: He once took apart Wail Soulfully in a hilarious series of posts in which, egged on by Nick's skillful trolling, WS said all sorts of ridiculous and self-contradictory things. (The other thing I recall about that thread was Cija calling WS an "extruded plastic dingus," which instantly became one of my favorite insults of all time.

Bad: He's a huge fan of Winterfox/Requires Hate, and has promoted enough that he is probably partly responsible for her current level of success. He's one of the crowd who defends her death threats as rhetoric, claiming that it's not a real threat unless it is phrased as "I will [murder/mutilate/beat up] you." He says that saying "It would be great if someone [murdered/mutilated/beat up] you" is not a threat and so is fine.

Bad: He's also a huge fan and promoter of Cat Valente (aka Yuki Onna) and was extremely active in promoting her work early on. Obviously this is not as bad as promoting WF, given that Cat is merely pretentious and annoying and has never, to my knowledge, threatened anyone with violence. But I still put it in the negative column.

Also, he's a Marxist and likes to rag on American leftists for being insufficiently left. Unlike WS, Nick actually does come from a working class background.
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likes to rag on American leftists for being insufficiently left

Is this the "pointing out that what Americans consider 'leftist' is center-right by anyone else's standards and that's sort of ridiculous" kind of ragging, or more like the Tumblr-esque "ugh fuck all leftists who aren't as radical as I am, how can they be so stupid?/look this one guy who self-identifies as a liberal said something dumb, lololol this is why liberals suck/haha I was a social democrat once, thank god I grew out of that quickly!" kind? I'm all for the former, but the latter drives me nuts.

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I'm looking for descriptive high-fantasy with great emphasis on character back story & world-building in the same realm as Lord of the Rings. I've read a slew of Arthurian-inspired fantasy & that doesn't really do it for me. I like intrigue but at it's core, I want there to be obvious character growth & characters I can connect with.


Am I just looking in the wrong place?
Bonus: I'd be beyond elated if there was a canon gay couple that wasn't just used as pandering to the base audience.

...& now I wait.
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Someone above mentioned the Farseer Trilogy by Robin Hobb; it's not in the same realm as Lord of the Rings, but it does have world-building, intrigue, and character development. And the core relationship... It's difficult to classify because of one character's fluid gender identity, and it's 'canon' for only a given definition: it's not primarily sexual, iirc (though I think there's one ambiguous bit in the final book? Can anyone else remember?) but it goes 'beyond friendship', especially in the second trilogy. So I don't know whether you'd class it as a 'canon gay couple', but it's certainly not peripheral.

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I don't think we've done one of these in a while. Name a canon that hasn't been filmed or staged, and suggest your dream cast. Or a remake you'd love to see happen. Got a canon that belongs on screen/stage and you can't think of a cast? Post it and see what folks come up with in the comments!

I'll start. I really want to see Kevin Kline play the title role in Man Of La Mancha. Terrence Mann as Carrasco, Alan Rickman as the Innkeeper, Idina Menzel as Aldonza. (Disclaimer: I'm not actually an Idina fan. I just think she'd be really great.) Maybe Josh Groban as the Priest, for star power.

Comment away!
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The Silmarillion!

(Some of them anyway, otherwise, well, be here all week.)

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I don't think there's been a book recs thread yet... and I need a REC! ♥
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I'm looking for fast-paced, terse, thriller type books preferably involving a pursuit. I've read Rogue Male, The Thiry-Nine Steps, Riddle of the Sands, all of Chandler's Marlowe long stories, quite a few Dashiell Hammetts, quite a few Le Carre. They don't have to be written in or set in the 1930s, they could be historical or SF in genre for example but relatively well written (ie not Dan Brown.)

Thanks.

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I adore Tolkien in spite of his very, very Eurocentric world-view


I'm sure this comment will demonstrate the depths of my SJ naivety and probably start some wank, but I have to ask... what exactly else would you expect a European writer writing about European mythology to be, apart from Eurocentric? I mean, sure, Tolkien is Eurocentric, but given it was his deliberate intention to write his works based on Norse and Anglo-saxon mythology, I kind of fail to see how that's an insult in this case. I mean, if European mythology is not of interest to you, no, Tolkien is probably not a guy you want to read, but that's a matter of personal taste, not a problem with Tolkien.

TBH, I part genuinely don't understand and part find it slightly irksome the suggestion that it is somehow wrong for European writers to write about their own heritage (especially given their chances of being accused of appropriation by the same people if they write about someone else's).
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+1

I think the "-centric" accusation is too often bandied about unnecessarily.

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ayrt
I wasn't trying to convince anyone, I was sharing my unpopular opinion. Which this thread is explicitly for. And really, my paragraph on the necessity of more-than-just-tweaking-names when modernizing Austen is not just aimed at the Lizzie Bennet Diaries, because it's a problem I've seen all over the place (I read a lot of Austen rip offs/remixes/etc). If that problem doesn't really fit LBD after the first few episodes, I'm glad.
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That's fair! I'm not familiar with other modern Austen adaptations except for Clueless, so I couldn't say how LBD measures up in comparison.

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Name a canon, a character, or a ship, and other anons will reply with songs they think fit!
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Twilight Sparkle/Applejack!

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I quite liked this essay on Arwen: http://www.squidoo.com/arwen-undomiel

This essay on Legolas (http://www.squidoo.com/legolas-mirkwood) is pretty good too, if it's the one I think it is.

There are links at the bottom of both to other essays on LOTR, too.
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Oooh, thank you! These look great.

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I'm looking for descriptive high-fantasy with great emphasis on character back story & world-building in the same realm as Lord of the Rings. I've read a slew of Arthurian-inspired fantasy & that doesn't really do it for me. I like intrigue but at it's core, I want there to be obvious character growth & characters I can connect with.


Am I just looking in the wrong place?
Bonus: I'd be beyond elated if there was a canon gay couple that wasn't just used as pandering to the base audience.

...& now I wait.
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Have you read Ursula Le Guin's Earthsea books?

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Today was my first day in one of my classes of the semester. Our instructor asked me what my favorite movie was, and when I said Moulin Rouge, I heard a few audible groans from the room. I know that I should expand my movie watching, especially since I'm a film major, but honestly, some of the movies that I really love aren't the Gold Standard of Filmmaking. I want to write movies (or TV shows) that fall into the vein of things I like: more comedic things that are lighthearted but not completely devoid of substance, and sometimes within my major I feel like you either have to like the super-serious stuff and only the super-serious stuff or you're a hack.

I know it's kind of personal, but it just made me wonder if anyone on meme is in kind of the same situation. If you're a student in a more creative field of study, do you feel like your tastes seem lesser than some other people's?
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Their pretentious tastes won't get them very far in Hollywood. Keep to your standards: having a keen eye for what's fun is a great thing to have in the entertainment industry.

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Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell.

Or any character from it really.
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A gentleman with thistledown hair who steals your family members away to fairyland?

http://youtu.be/HLhtHKyylmo

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American football!

Favorite team, favorite player, favorite pairing if you're into that. It's all good!
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So, this is totally cheating, but I legit love this song:

Halftime, by the Ying Yang Twins, for the Saints

WHO DAT SAY DEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT0Zw88xUIE

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Tex, Red vs. Blue!
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Eve 6- Rescue

But they have a lot of songs that seem like they'd fit a girl like Tex.

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It is actually impossible to explain the fandom popularity of the movie War Horse without the use of at least one of the following words: RPF, Gay Porn, Sherlock, Loki, Cumberbatch, Hiddleston.

My parents, the anti-fans are currently watching the film. Instead of staring soulfully into the eyes of some suddenly popular UK actors, they are predicting with frightening accuracy what the next plot point and character death will be. Apparently it was a Saturday Night Live sketch? Either way, I'm not going to enlighten them.

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Copy-paste your AO3 stats in this thread. Maybe with notes about what fandom you're in for all the meme's stat-comparing purposes. :D
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68 works across c. 25 fandoms. 8 works are in big fandoms, 4 are in medium fandoms, the rest are in small to tiny fandoms.

Author Subscriptions 10
Kudos 1020
Comment Threads 246
Bookmarks 118
Subscriptions 150
Word Count 384826
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On FFN I have 27 works posted across 10 fandoms. Apparently:

You are on the favorites list of 68 members.
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Total words archived : 397,165 words.
Average number of words per story : 14,710
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For the month of 2013-01, there have been a total of 2,025 Views and 336 Visitors to all of your stories.

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I went to an art and design school, and kept getting disapproving looks from various teachers (and one time from my boss during my internship) when I reveal I like anime/manga. Some of them looked down on Disney too. ("Oh hahaha do you remember drawing Mario and Disney as a child? Look how far you've come!" was said to the best student in my illustration class.) You'd think we'd be over this kind of thing by now.

I remember getting a similar impression from my violin teacher, who was so appalled I never went to any classical music concerts (I have never been to a concert, period), and that I preferred listening to pop over classical. He tried to argue that classical is more emotionally evocative, to which I kind of wanted to leave a secret package of various movie/game soundtracks on his doorstep.
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classical is more emotionally evocative

That's so much bullshit. It's more emotionally evocative to some people-- the people who enjoy listening to classical music. But I don't listen to classical music (aside from a few specific orchestral numbers ala requiem for a dream) because it doesn't key into my emotions enough to be worth my time. It just sits there. I can appreciate the technical merits, but I don't listen to music for it's technical merits. Now give me some alternative rock, and my heart will start soaring.

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I try to avoid finding out about writers' or actors' politics or personal lives or politics. I guess there are circumstances where knowing more would increase my enjoyment of their work, but there's also the risk where knowing would spoil it.

I hate it when people go out of their way to point out stuff like, "hey that writer's a misogynist douche" or "hey, that actor's a horrible homophobe".

Fuck you, I don't want to know!
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I think for me it depends on the context of people pointing it out. In general, I prefer to know as little as possible about actors or writers because I'd rather just engage with the media itself, but if it comes up in a conversation about said actor or writer or whatever, well ok.

What drives me nuts is when people jump into a conversation about, say, a particular performance and go 'but don't you know [actor] is a [horrible thing]!' Like, ok, but we weren't talking about that. We were talking about how well portrayed that character was! I know that some people can't or don't want to compartmentalise, and that's both fine and completely understandable. There's just a world of difference between saying 'I couldn't enjoy Michael Fassbender's performance in Prometheus because I can't help but think of the abuse allegations when I see him' and saying 'Oh, you thought David was a really compelling character? Shame Fassbender is a horrible abuser!'

I've got a couple of friends who do the second thing all the time in group conversations and it's so disruptive and rude. That's not engaging in a conversation, that's berating other people for having a different relationship with media - and implying that enjoying a work or performance is tantamount to endorsing the author/actor's shitty behaviour, which is pretty insulting.

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Russian speakers! Two related questions about names:

Is Zhenechka a reasonable diminutive for a mother to call her grown son, Evgeni? Additionally, would she call said twenty something vaguely cutesy names (like, specifically, bunny), like my mother still calls me sweetheart/honey or do the endearments don't work like that?

(boy, is my fandom obvious)

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Russian speakers! Two related questions about names:

Is Zhenechka a reasonable diminutive for a mother to call her grown son, Evgeni? Additionally, would she call said twenty something vaguely cutesy names (like, specifically, bunny), like my mother still calls me sweetheart/honey or do the endearments don't work like that?

(boy, is my fandom obvious. made even more obvious by the anon fail, sigh.)

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What do you mean by that exactly? If people lock something to members only, you have to be logged into A03 to read it, which seems to work just fine.
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But you don't have to be logged in to access the epub/mobi/html etc. downloads, if you can get the URL.

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AYRT - eek. That whole thing is riddled with typos and proof of why I should not meme on painkillers and cold meds.

I meant teenage girls. Ooops.
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Hahah, that's ok nonny. Memeing on painkillers is always worth a laugh. I have to admit, as a twenty something girl I may have been being a teeeeeny bit defensive :P

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It is actually impossible to explain the fandom popularity of the movie War Horse without the use of at least one of the following words: RPF, Gay Porn, Sherlock, Loki, Cumberbatch, Hiddleston.

My parents, the anti-fans are currently watching the film. Instead of staring soulfully into the eyes of some suddenly popular UK actors, they are predicting with frightening accuracy what the next plot point and character death will be. Apparently it was a Saturday Night Live sketch? Either way, I'm not going to enlighten them.

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Twilight Sparkle/Applejack!
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Is "I'm Glad I Hitched My Apple Wagon To Your Star" too obvious?

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I don't think there's been a book recs thread yet... and I need a REC! ♥
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I'm looking for contemporary novels with unreliable narrators. If anyone's read Jenn Ashworth's A Kind of Intimacy, something like that would be perfect!

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It occurred to me while reading the last "what are you watching" thread that although I watch a lot of television, I'm usually only following a couple of dramas or sitcoms at any one time - most of the tv I watch is non-scripted entertainment, ob docs or entertainment factuals. So I'd love to hear about the quiz shows, game shows etc. that anons are tuning in for at the moment!
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Live sports counts, right? the Australian Open is all I'm watching on TV at the moment.

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Inari is the god/dess of fertility (portrayed as male, female, and neither), rice, and foxes, among other things
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This is perfect, considering the character's 'actual' name is Iréne. Thank you (and thanks to the other nonnie who suggested one).

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What scene has to go in your story, but is being a pain in the ass to get in there? What's so tough about it, and how do you motivate yourself to push through?
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A scene that establishes a secondary character's relationship with the protagonist, several other secondary characters, the antagonists and her girlfriend all in one conversation. I've never really written this character before and her relationship with the protagonist in this AU is very different from what it is in canon!

I've dashed out a very generic placeholder ("You hurt my friends and I will shoot you!") but it's niggling at me hard.

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As an American English speaker, there are certain people that have entered the common idiom, like Einstein to mean smart ("He's no Einstein") or Shakespeare to mean a good writer ("A regular Shakespeare!"). Memers with other first languages, do you use different people to mean those sorts of things?
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One of the things that stuck out at me when I saw the Wizard of Oz is one of Dorothy's line's from the "If I Only Had a Brain" song. She says "With the thoughts you'd be thinkin' You could be another Lincoln," and I've always sort of wondered - was he *the* US brainy guy at the time or was he just a good fit, rhyme-wise?

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I hate it when I'm reading a fic that has 50,000 words of slow, drawn out, thoughtful characterisation and well-crafted UST while the POV character gradually comes to terms with the fact they have feelings for someone they never thought they could... and then in the final thousand words they blurt, "I love you," the other character instantly says, "Oh, yay, I've secretly fallen in love with you too!" they immediately strip their clothes off to act out generic smut scene 101, and then They Lived Happily Ever After, The End.

So, fellow nonnies, have you got particular story setups that frequently annoy you by chucking all the good stuff out of the window with the way they get resolved?
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Memory wipe. There's nothing I hate more.

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likes to rag on American leftists for being insufficiently left

Is this the "pointing out that what Americans consider 'leftist' is center-right by anyone else's standards and that's sort of ridiculous" kind of ragging, or more like the Tumblr-esque "ugh fuck all leftists who aren't as radical as I am, how can they be so stupid?/look this one guy who self-identifies as a liberal said something dumb, lololol this is why liberals suck/haha I was a social democrat once, thank god I grew out of that quickly!" kind? I'm all for the former, but the latter drives me nuts.
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The latter, but more making-fun-of than anger; part of his persona is always being too aloof/amused by the riffraff to get angry.

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I don't think there's been a book recs thread yet... and I need a REC! ♥
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I'm looking for books on trench warfare in the first world war, also things like Regeneration and Mrs Dalloway that deal with the after effects, shell shock etc.

I've already read Birdsong and All Quiet on the Western Front, and Parade's End. Non-fiction would be good too! I'm going through a bit of a phase.

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Agreed with the hastily pairing off one person with a random character. When writers do that I get the sense they're trying to create a feel-good ending where everyone gets happily paired off, but it's not satisfying to me at all.

Another love triangle resolution that annoys me is when one party gets villainised and then the other two just get together by default.
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How did I forget that one? That's the absolute worst.

I mean, maybe if there were hints the character was villainous from the start, but it's usually sudden villainy just to get the character out of the way of true love.

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I was talking about this last night on another meme, and I came to the conclusion that for me (and I'm really not sure if this is usual or what- I suspect not) the fun of a/b/o is the subversion of it. Take a world where biological imperative is key to human interaction, and then look at how horrific it would be- and how humans who didn't fit into that paradigm would cope. So I write fucked up stuff with unwilling bonds, body horror, the sick sinking feeling when you realise that this is something you can't control but that doesn't have to define you.

Happy fluffy A/B/O holds no interest for me. I don't want to read Omegas and Alphas who live peacefully together. I want people rebelling and fighting against it, invention of ways to control it, proper worldbuilding that explores all the implications of what happens, and relationships within the story that complicate or contradict the initial premise (two Alphas, or an Omega and a Beta, or an Omega who actually only gets off on being in control so even if they bottom they're instructing every course of action etc.)

When it's done well I think it can be absolutely terrific, and it broadened my own horizons as a writer- made me significantly more comfortable with worldbuilding, and with sci-fi as being something that I could write as well as read.
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I enjoy some of the ones that use it essentially as sex pollen, but I do think the ones that explore the issues are the most interesting. Whether it's talking about the background of how it interacted with the development of modern beliefs for omega/alpha liberation or the struggle with dealing with such biologically driven gender roles. There's a reason why I think Drouk may be the best a/b/o fic I've ever read.

What really creeps me out, though, are the ones that have omegas as slaves and don't seem to have a problem with it. There was one very popular series where the author thought her leads were big damn heroes. These would be the leads that were capturing and imprisoning omegas. But they were letting the omegas pick which of the people applying to rape them got to do it, so that made it okay! And the big heroic plot was them destroying the network that was supplying the omega slaves with heat suppressants. And this wasn't just a matter of the author recognizing it was wrong but finding it sexy, the comments made it clear that they thought it was obviously true.

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Memory wipe. There's nothing I hate more.
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SA

And to clarify, I was thinking about Donna in Doctor Who; a whole series about something mysterious to do with her, the "most important woman" (which was also bullshit in the end anyway), the converging of the plot threads towards the last, big confrontation... and then nothing. Sorry, the person you've become through your travels, all you've done and seen will be gone from your mind. Welcome back to your old, limited personality and lifelong grief you don't know where it comes from!

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Is anyone else having to scroll sideways to read comments when they're expanded because there are no line breaks?


Guess I'll have to stop reading the meme and actually do stuff. :(
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I don't have to scroll sideways, but it looks like the whole layout is wider than usual (It spans my whole screen.) and the font for the subject line looks different to me. The the reply box is on the left and not in the centre of the page.

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What scene has to go in your story, but is being a pain in the ass to get in there? What's so tough about it, and how do you motivate yourself to push through?
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For one, an action scene. Action is bad enough, but I need to get some important character moments in there or there's no point to writing this particular story at all, and I can't figure out how to set things up to get those character moments to happen. Worst of all, being stuck on this scene is keeping me from working on other stories related to this one. I've started hiding from it all and daydreaming about another fandom entirely.

... oops I don't have an answer for the motivation part.

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Is anyone else having to scroll sideways to read comments when they're expanded because there are no line breaks?


Guess I'll have to stop reading the meme and actually do stuff. :(
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Meme looks squashed :(

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I was backreading some of our fic crit lately, so I was curious, what do you think constitutes good fannish writing? Is it the same as good profic writing? What matters: phrasing, plots, characterization?

I'm not thinking of anyone in particular, I'm just curious about how people think of good writing, since it's so hard to define.
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For me, it starts with a gripping premise and language that's simultaneously invisible and evocative. Once I get sucked in by this, I look for characterization that makes sense (for fanfic, it means characterization that is believable for those characters; for profic, it means interesting and believable characters) and for the plot to be paced well, with waypoints that make sense and a satisfying resolution.

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It is actually impossible to explain the fandom popularity of the movie War Horse without the use of at least one of the following words: RPF, Gay Porn, Sherlock, Loki, Cumberbatch, Hiddleston.

My parents, the anti-fans are currently watching the film. Instead of staring soulfully into the eyes of some suddenly popular UK actors, they are predicting with frightening accuracy what the next plot point and character death will be. Apparently it was a Saturday Night Live sketch? Either way, I'm not going to enlighten them.

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Subject: So, let's WRITE the scenes we're struggling with!
I have an hour. Not sure I can finish, but 500 words will make a good dent in it.

Anyone else?

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A scene that establishes a secondary character's relationship with the protagonist, several other secondary characters, the antagonists and her girlfriend all in one conversation. I've never really written this character before and her relationship with the protagonist in this AU is very different from what it is in canon!

I've dashed out a very generic placeholder ("You hurt my friends and I will shoot you!") but it's niggling at me hard.
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Ooh, what canon is this?

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For me, it starts with a gripping premise and language that's simultaneously invisible and evocative. Once I get sucked in by this, I look for characterization that makes sense (for fanfic, it means characterization that is believable for those characters; for profic, it means interesting and believable characters) and for the plot to be paced well, with waypoints that make sense and a satisfying resolution.
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language that's simultaneously invisible and evocative

Do you have recs of this?

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Take a world where biological imperative is key to human interaction, and then look at how horrific it would be- and how humans who didn't fit into that paradigm would cope.

Hmm... that sounds pretty great! An a/b/o scenario as dystopia actually might work for me too. How hard is it to find the fic where the trope's subverted in some way? I didn't expect to find myself asking this in this thread, but - would you be willing to share some recs, Nonnie?
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Subject: Re: a/b/o, w-h-y?
AYRT

I don't keep extensive bookmarks but here are one or two that I have bookmarked and I'd be happy to search for a few more if you'd like. They're all rated Explicit for good reason. They're also all Supernatural RPF so sorry if that isn't your thing.

Slick by Tryfanstone http://archiveofourown.org/works/489524 This is played straight in the sense that Omegas are literally bottom of the heap, but the author takes it to a terrible logical conclusion that really plays with how horrific what is happening is. Take note of the warnings- I could barely read it but it was gripping.

Alpha, Beta, Bitch saltandbyrne http://archiveofourown.org/works/481873 PWP with two Omegas topping an Alpha for the first time. Interesting interplay with the expectations and the embarrassment Alpha Jared has at bottoming for the first time.

Intolerable Cruelty by StripySock http://archiveofourown.org/works/504722 Stand alone story where two people end up bonded who hate each other. Has a sequel where they try and work it out, but so far no dice. Good world building in the sequel so that might be especially up your street.

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Ooh, what canon is this?
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Teen Wolf! Allison's not helping me out here at all.

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Somebody replied to a LiveJournal post in which sunnymodffa (sunnymodffa) said:
It is actually impossible to explain the fandom popularity of the movie War Horse without the use of at least one of the following words: RPF, Gay Porn, Sherlock, Loki, Cumberbatch, Hiddleston.

My parents, the anti-fans are currently watching the film. Instead of staring soulfully into the eyes of some suddenly popular UK actors, they are predicting with frightening accuracy what the next plot point and character death will be. Apparently it was a Saturday Night Live sketch? Either way, I'm not going to enlighten them.

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Subject: For Fake LJ Deaths
Someone post this to Fake_LJ_Deaths

Manti Te’o’s Dead Girlfriend, The Most Heartbreaking And Inspirational Story Of The College Football Season, Is A Hoax


deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax?utm_source=jalopnik.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation

A football player tragically loses his girlfriend, turns out she is fake.

Also there was something on here about someone possibly faking a death on Dreamwidth a few weeks ago, any updates on that one?

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Face-Off is my absolute favorite thing on tv right now.
It's a competition show on Syfy for makeup/special effect artists and I love it.

First, because I love getting watch the various contestants creative process from prompt to idea/sketches/design to fabrication to working around the various challenges they come up against to figure out how to bring their concept to life. Almost all of the designs end up being interesting and some are flat-out awesome.

Second, the contestants seem to genuinely like and care about each other. Instead of sniping or sabotaging, they actively help each other with anything from design suggestions to techniques to actually lending a hand if someone is struggling.

Third, the judges are critical when appropriate and give praise where it's do. Neither is over the top or exaggerated or dramatic. Just honest opinion and advice.


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Yes, so much love for Face-Off. I kind of want an all-star season, it would be pretty interesting to see the best from the past three seasons compete against each other. But from what I understand, quite a lot of the contestants go on to steady work, so that's pretty cool for them but not great for recurring TV competition. Which is as it should be :)

Last season's crowd was so, so nice, here's hoping this isn't the snipey-reality show season. S2 was a bit like that, I think, but not too bad? I may be misremembering.

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I saw that there is a bingo for photography now, called snapshot_bingo, and got really excited for a moment. Then I saw that it's run by our rape apologist friend amadi.

So that and the Klaus Kinski thread from before made me wonder, where do you anons draw your lines when it comes to enjoying something while the creator is being a horrible human being? Do you have different standards for fandom and real life?
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Subject: Re: Separating creation from creator - where does your line go?
I'm fairly sure that there is nothing so horrible that anyone could do that would convince me that a book, a movie, a show, etc. that I already enjoyed was no longer available for my enjoyment. I'll concede that there are cases where the creator being a terrible human being would make me feel differently, like if Lolita were something more akin to a memoir than a novel. I'd be far less impressed by Nabokov's ability to render Humbert so simultaneously repulsive and charming, and considerably more disturbed by the actual events within the story.

I can't say that if it ever came out that Nabokov was writing Lolita with one hand down his pants, though, that I would stop enjoying Lolita. I guess some people consider that a reaction on principle, but it's a pretty fucking empty principle to me.

Terrible people can produce great things, and those things don't necessarily have anything to do with who their creators are. For the most part, I am always capable of separating a creator from their work. I don't go out of my way to avoid paying for that work, either, because the money it costs me to see a Polanski movie in theater is not, in my mind, money for Polanski to continue raping little girls. It's an acknowledgement of the work that was put into the film, not only by Polanski, but by the entire cast and crew.

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Looking for AtLA, your fave really GOOD fic?

I just finished AtLA, and would love to see your faves. I like some good, solid, adult writing -- not necessarily porn though I don't mind porn; what I want is stuff that doesn't sound like it was written by kids.

I'm open to pairings, het, slash or femmeslash. For characters I particularly love Zuko and Iroh, and would love to see Iroh paired with anyone. I also like Ty Lee and Toph. I would love to see how the survivors deal with the Azula problem (I think Iroh should take her in hand).
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Subject: Re: Fic recs - AtLA your fave, or Iroh/Anyone, or gen
https://archiveofourown.org/works/593581/ Iroh/Ursa - very mature and lovely.

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I saw that there is a bingo for photography now, called snapshot_bingo, and got really excited for a moment. Then I saw that it's run by our rape apologist friend amadi.


So that and the Klaus Kinski thread from before made me wonder, where do you anons draw your lines when it comes to enjoying something while the creator is being a horrible human being? Do you have different standards for fandom and real life?
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Subject: Re: Separating creation from creator - where does your line go?
Whether I find their work enjoyable has nothing to do with whether I find the author to be a decent human being. I won't give money to a nazi or child rapist, but I'll read/watch/listen to their work. I just try to keep that in mind when reading/watching/listening, in case seeds of their awfulness are present in their work. I don't want to accidentally buy into their worldview.

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My all time favourite ones:

* Henry V by Kenneth Brannagh. Loved it, it changed my life. it made me find my call. I will always love Kenneth for that. I'm a completist, so I get all the Henry V's versions, but as lovely as they are, Kenneth's is special for me.

* Nosferatu. I can't choose between Murnau and Herzog, so both.

* The Lion in winter. Peter O'Toole,. Just, Peter O'Toole.

* Rosemary's Baby, what can I say?

* Psycho. The original one, of course.

* Trainspotting.

* The Night of the Living Dead. Again, the original. I'm not a fan of remakes.

* Conspiracy by Frank Pierson. I just love Kenneth, okay?

* The Little Mermaid.

* The Omen Trilogy. Fuck the made for TV fourth part. It was terrible.

* Jurassic Park

* Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

I have lots and lots more, but those are my all-time favourite ones.
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Absolutely seconding Sir K's Henry V, on all counts - including getting all the different versions! (None of which quite match up, though Robert Hardy's almost does.) After that it's Ice Cold in Alex which is real edge-of-the-seat stuff.

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Which is more satisfying to you - smut or UST?

(Sometimes I find I prefer UST—especially when the smut in question is disappointing.)
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Smut. UST is always boring, there's no payoff.

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Because I need to say...

Dear Les Miserables fandom,

The Lea Salonga vs Everyone Else Who Has Ever Played Eponine Ever argument was boring ten years ago. It is even more boring now. Can you just stop? Please? How on earth can anyone still care so much?

Anyone else want to vent to their fandom? Do it here. :)
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Dear Supernatural fandom,

Stop organizing ways to write letters to the writers asking them to do X, Y, and Z. Just let them do their goddamn jobs.

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Take a world where biological imperative is key to human interaction, and then look at how horrific it would be- and how humans who didn't fit into that paradigm would cope.

Hmm... that sounds pretty great! An a/b/o scenario as dystopia actually might work for me too. How hard is it to find the fic where the trope's subverted in some way? I didn't expect to find myself asking this in this thread, but - would you be willing to share some recs, Nonnie?
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Subject: Re: a/b/o, w-h-y?
nayrt -- I'm not personally fond of the really dystopian ones, at least unless they focus on the people working to overthrow it, but for a more subtle take on the struggle to deal with a society where your gender not only affects how people deal with you, it can essentially control your mind, I always recommend Drouk by Alma Anor.

archiveofourown.org/works/383559/chapters/627618

Warning: sexual violence, very wrenching but I think not depressing. Explores what it would like to be trans or gay or asexual in such a universe.

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Dear Supernatural fandom,


Stop organizing ways to write letters to the writers asking them to do X, Y, and Z. Just let them do their goddamn jobs.
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I'd like to CC this to Teen Wolf fandom as well.

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