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Suryanarayana Ambadipudi

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Nov 6, 2025, 9:20:55 AM (2 days ago) Nov 6
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The Hon’ble President of India
Rashtrapati Bhavan
New Delhi – 110004.

Subject: Representation regarding deletion of the words “unfunded pension scheme” and explicit inclusion of “existing pensioners” under the Terms of Reference of the 8th Central Pay Commission

Respected Rashtrapati Ji,

With due respect and utmost humility, I submit this representation seeking your kind attention to a matter of significant constitutional, administrative, and ethical concern regarding the wording of the Terms of Reference (ToR) of the 8th Central Pay Commission (CPC) notified vide Gazette Notification dated 3rd November 2025.

1. The Clause in Question

Para (e)(ii) of the ToR reads as follows:
“While making recommendations, the Commission shall take into account, inter alia, the likely impact on the finances of the Government of India, the State Governments, and the unfunded cost of non-contributory pension schemes of the Central Government, autonomous bodies, and other entities covered under the Commission.”
This clause, while indirectly referring to the Old Pension Scheme (OPS), neither explicitly mentions “pensioners” nor acknowledges their rights and interests under the Commission’s purview.

2. The Core Concern

The specific use of the phrase “unfunded cost of non-contributory pension schemes” is deeply objectionable and discriminatory in tone and intent, as:
• It equates constitutionally and judicially protected pension entitlements with fiscal liabilities.
• It reduces pensioners—who served the nation under the sovereign guarantee of post-retirement security—to mere “financial burdens”.
• It departs from the humane and welfare-oriented language used in all previous Pay Commissions (from the 4th to the 7th CPC), where “pensioners” were expressly mentioned as beneficiaries of review and revision.
Moreover, no such terminology (“unfunded scheme”) has ever been used in reference to pensions of Members of Parliament, Members of Legislative Assemblies, Judges of the Supreme Court or High Courts, or other constitutional functionaries—though their pensions are equally non-contributory and drawn from Consolidated Funds.
This selective and stigmatizing phrasing therefore violates the principle of equality before law under Article 14 of the Constitution.

3. Legal and Constitutional Position
The Supreme Court of India has repeatedly affirmed that:
1. In Deokinandan Prasad v. State of Bihar (1971) – Pension is a property right and cannot be withdrawn except by authority of law.
2. In D.S. Nakara v. Union of India (1983) – Pension is a deferred wage, a continuation of service benefits, and not a bounty. Pensioners form a homogeneous class and must be treated equally in matters of revision and improvement.

Therefore, to classify the Old Pension Scheme as an unfunded cost contradicts the judicially settled understanding that pension is an earned right arising from past service to the State.

4. Administrative and Moral Considerations

The Government of India, as a model employer, has a moral and legal obligation to uphold the dignity and welfare of its retired employees. The deliberate omission of the word “pensioners” from the ToR and its substitution with a fiscal descriptor is inconsistent with this obligation.

This shift in tone:
• Dehumanises pensioners by turning a lifelong entitlement into a budgetary liability;
• Creates unnecessary fear and insecurity among elderly pensioners; and
• Erodes public confidence in the government’s commitment to fair and humane treatment of its retirees.

5. Request for Rectification

In light of the above facts, legal precedents, and moral principles, it is humbly requested that:
1. The phrase “unfunded cost of non-contributory pension schemes” in Para (e)(ii) of the 8th CPC ToR be deleted; and
2. The words “and existing pensioners under the Central Government, autonomous bodies and other entities covered under the Commission” be inserted explicitly, to bring clarity and restore parity with earlier Commissions.

A suggested revised version of the clause is as follows:

“(ii) the likely impact on the finances of the Government of India, the State Governments, and the pensionary liabilities relating to existing pensioners and family pensioners under the Central Government, autonomous bodies, and other entities covered under the Commission.”

This would reaffirm the rightful inclusion of all existing pensioners within the ambit of the 8th CPC, in keeping with constitutional equity, judicial mandates, and past administrative practice.

6. Appeal for Presidential Intervention

As the Constitutional Head of the Republic and Guardian of the rights of all citizens, including retired public servants, I earnestly appeal to Your Excellency to kindly direct the Ministry of Finance to review and amend the ToR of the 8th CPC accordingly.

Such an intervention would uphold:
• The constitutional sanctity of equality and fairness,
• The dignity of service rendered by lakhs of government pensioners, and
• The moral authority of the State as a model employer.

With Highest Respect and Gratitude,

Yours faithfully,
(Lokanath Mishra)
The Chief Adviser, The All India Pensioners Association of CBIC:
[Contact No. 9437314941]
[Email IDjailo...@gmail.com]
Date: 05.11.2025
Place: Puri.
Copy for information and necessary action to:
1. Hon’ble Prime Minister of India.
2. ⁠Hon’ble Finance Minister of India.
3. ⁠The Secretary, DOPT, Government of India.
4. ⁠The Secretary, Expenditure, Government of India.


     
A.SURYANARAYANA
The less you speak,the more you are listened to

Dr Sundar

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Nov 6, 2025, 6:52:35 PM (2 days ago) Nov 6
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Namaskaram

I found the below more meaningful and intersting that came up in Twitter as seven threads connected. 
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India now spends nearly ₹4 lakh crore every year on pensions — close to 20% of the Union Government’s total revenue expenditure. In many States, pension payouts already exceed spending on health and education. This growing imbalance is affecting development priorities that benefit society at large.
With longer life expectancy and more people retiring each year, this burden will continue to rise. Unless we act, essential spending on jobs, healthcare, and education — areas that directly support the younger generation — will be squeezed.
This is not about denying what pensioners rightfully deserve. It is about ensuring fairness between generations — protecting the dignity of today’s retirees while preserving opportunities for tomorrow’s youth. A balanced, contributory, and transparent pension system can secure both objectives.
Sustainability is not against pensioners; it is for the long-term stability and fairness that every citizen, young or old, deserves. 
                    **********
Warm Regards 
Sundaram

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SELF KNOWLEDGE IS REAL KNOWLEDGE.
ALL OTHER KNOWLEDGE IS IGNORANCE AND THEY ARE NO  KNOWLEDGE  "   
~~~ Bhagavan Ramana
     

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Suryanarayana Ambadipudi

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Nov 7, 2025, 1:11:03 AM (yesterday) Nov 7
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Thank you 🙏


     
A.SURYANARAYANA
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 at 9:54 PM, Colinjivadi Mahadevan <chmah...@gmail.com> wrote:
If the pension paid to retirees/pensioners is unfunded cost, what about  the salaries paid to serving employees both covered under OPS/NPS.The Old Pension Scheme  is applicable only to employees recruited upto 31/12/2003. The beneficiaries under the OPS form a diminishing group which has no  new entrant from 1/1/2004. At some point of time when the last pensioner exits from this world the Scheme will extinguish itself.But the wage revisions for serving employees in the Government is perpetual with  ten year intervals between revisions.So such  wages  constitute unfunded cost on a perpetual basis. So ,if pension under OPS is to be considered as unfunded cost , so should  the salaries of serving employees be  considered as unfunded cost.
C H Mahadevan 

Rajaram Krishnamurthy

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Nov 7, 2025, 3:09:10 AM (yesterday) Nov 7
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Central government salaries and pensions are paid from the Consolidated Fund of India. This is the main government fund where all revenues, such as taxes and loans, are deposited. Expenditures from this fund, including salaries and pensions, require authorization from Parliament.

Consolidated Fund of India: This is the primary fund for all government revenues and expenditures. It receives money from various sources, including income tax, customs, and loans.

Parliamentary Authorization: Before any money can be withdrawn from the Consolidated Fund for salaries, pensions, or any other expenditure, it must be authorized by the Parliament.

Pensions: Pensions, particularly those for judges of the Supreme Court and High Courts, are charged on the Consolidated Fund of India. This means their payment is a mandatory charge against this fund.

 

The pension sanctioning authority for central government employees is the Head of the Office where the employee last served. This authority is responsible for processing the pension papers and issuing the Pension Payment Order (PPO) to the Central Pension Accounting Office (CPAO).

Initial responsibility: The Head of Office in the Ministry, Department, or Office where the employee last worked is the primary pension sanctioning authority.

Processing: The process begins well before retirement, with the Head of Office sending pension papers to the Accounts Officer at least six months prior to the retirement date.

PPO issuance: The Accounts Officer processes the papers and issues the Pension Payment Order (PPO).

CPAO role: The PPO is then sent to the Central Pension Accounting Office (CPAO) to authorize the payment of the pension through a disbursing bank.

Provisional pension: In cases where the final pension cannot be assessed before retirement, the Head of Office is authorized to sanction provisional pension for a period of six months.

 

    The salaries and pensions paid by governments are categorized as "Revenue expenditure." Revenue expenditure refers to the expenses incurred by the government in its day-to-day operations and maintenance, such as salaries, pensions, administrative costs, and subsidies.

 

   The Consolidated Fund of India is the government's main account, established under Article 266 of the Constitution, where all its revenues (like taxes and loans) and expenditures are deposited and withdrawn from, respectively. Money can only be withdrawn from this fund with parliamentary approval, which is typically granted through an Appropriation Bill. It is used for all routine government expenses, such as salaries, infrastructure projects, and debt repayment.

 

      The Consolidated Fund of India is ultimately controlled by the Parliament of India, which authorizes all withdrawals from the fund. While the government manages the fund's day-to-day operations, no money can be withdrawn without parliamentary approval through measures like Appropriation Bills, ensuring accountability and fiscal discipline.

Parliamentary control: Parliament must explicitly authorize any spending from the Consolidated Fund. This prevents any funds from being spent without proper authorization and provides a system of checks and balances.

Government management: The government manages the daily operations of the fund, which collects all government revenues, such as income tax and customs duties, and from which all government expenses are paid.

Legislative approval: Parliament's approval is obtained through Appropriation Bills, which specify the amounts and nature of expenditures allowed for withdrawal.

Constitutional basis: The fund is established under Article 266(1) of the Indian Constitution, which also specifies that the fund's custody, payments, and withdrawals are regulated by laws made by Parliament.

 

       The Contingency Fund of India is a fund established under Article 267 of the Indian Constitution for meeting unforeseen expenditures, such as natural calamities, when Parliament is not in session. It is held by the Secretary to the Government of India in the Ministry of Finance on behalf of the President, and the fund's current limit was increased to ₹30,000 crore by Parliament in 2022. Withdrawals require parliamentary authorization afterward, and any money spent is later replenished from the Consolidated Fund of India.

Key features of the Contingency Fund of India

Purpose: To meet urgent and unforeseen expenditures, such as during natural disasters or other emergencies, when Parliament is not in session.

Legal Basis: Established by the Contingency Fund of India Act, 1950, and provided for in Article 267 of the Constitution.

Current Corpus: The fund has a limit of ₹30,000 crore, which was increased by Parliament in 2022.

Custody: It is held by the Secretary to the Government of India in the Ministry of Finance, on behalf of the President.

Withdrawal Process:

An advance can be made out of the fund for unforeseen expenditure.

This expenditure must be authorized later by Parliament through appropriations.

 

     "Funded" and "unfunded" describe how financial obligations are handled. A funded arrangement has money set aside in a separate fund for future payment, like a long-term loan or a retirement plan. An unfunded arrangement does not have a dedicated fund and relies on cash flow for immediate needs or later payment, such as short-term loans or liabilities due within a year.

Funded

Definition: An obligation where funds are specifically set aside to meet future payments.

Examples:

Long-term debt: Financial obligations with a maturity of more than one year.

Funded employee benefit plans: A retirement or gratuity plan where a company sets aside money in a trust to meet future payments.

Funded loan facilities: Bank loans like overdrafts or term loans for expansion.

Characteristics: Generally considered more secure for investors and companies because the funds are already allocated.

Unfunded

Definition: An obligation that does not have a dedicated fund and is paid from general cash flow.

Examples:

Short-term debt: Financial obligations due within a year.

Unfunded employee benefit plans: A plan where the company contributes money only when a payout is due, without setting aside a dedicated fund.

Unfunded loan facilities: Non-funded credit facilities like letters of credit or bank guarantees.

Characteristics: Represents a more immediate cash flow need for the company or government.

 

     What is the difference between funded and unfunded pensions?

Typically, as mentioned earlier, the funding monies will be placed in a trust fund independent from the employer's other assets. This trust fund is, therefore, externally funded. In the case of unfunded schemes, any benefits are paid out of the assets of the employer at the time that the member retires.

 

            unfunded used to describe a financial arrangement that has been agreed but for which there is not enough money available: The unfunded liability for Social Security's old age and disability funds will be $3 trillion by 2070.

 

             Salary is funded; there is no commitment for such treatment wrt the pension hence unfunded as parliament has the power not to vote.

K Rajaram IRS 71125

Rajaram Krishnamurthy

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 at 16:30, Madras Sivaraman <madras.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a shout against a wall that will echo back and nothing else. This must have been added by MrsSeetharaman FM,

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