Brief lecture by University of Bath professor on the "Basic Income."

[Wallace Klinck]

Here is a short lecture by a Professor at the University of Bath. His discussion concentrates on matters of policy in favour of a "Basic Income." There is no indication as to whether he regards such a measure as to be implemented within the restrictions of the existing financial system or whether or not he is familiar with Social Credit. He does not specify what quantitative measures might be involved in determining his concept of a "Basic Income". What is interesting is that he, like a number of others, appears to be advancing the ideas that such income supplements should be both both universal and unconditional. This would appear to represent a positive transition of thought in itself compared to a number of earlier concepts of a basic income being a welfare state and tax-financed payment merely intended to maintain a certain basic level of income for those that fell under an amount estimated to be adequate to maintain a minimal lifestyle. What this sort of thinking does indicate is a seeming progressive consideration of a supplementary payment of income based upon natural right or inheritance rather than traditional publicly funded State welfare or "charity.". To what extent certain of these advocates may or may not have been influenced by Douglas and Social Credit is difficult to estimate. Many are reluctant to give credit to Douglas because they fear it might jeopardize their careers and some would appear to prefer taking credit for the ideas of others without acknowledgement. Nevertheless, the transition of thought apparently has been continuing and increasing although excruciatingly slow. I was both pleased and encouraged recently when Karl Widerquist of the BIG movement advised that he was placing on their site a link to two Social Credit texts accessible at Scribd--including Dr. Bryan Monahan's excellent book "An Introduction to Social Credit."

Wally Klinck


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=1olNPk6if0c

[Wallace Klinck]

As a follow-up to the message below, I would recommend to participants and observers on this list that you visit Professor Guy Standing's page at the University of Bath, Department of Social and Policy Sciences  http://www.bath.ac.uk/sps/news/news_0017.htm

Prof. Standing has written a new book titled "The Precariat"  meaning, of course, the new and growing class of people without stable incomes and leading a more and more precarious economic existence under the unstable conditions of an evermore fluid workforce serving an increasingly globalized financial and production system.  Apparently he has been asked to present in about twenty countries.  His book is available at a discounted price directly from the author.  His e-mail address is provided on the site page.    g.sta...@bath.ac.uk    Without having read his book, I would infer that its thesis more or less coincides with the Social Credit idea of the Financial Powers desiring an increasingly de-cultured, de-spiritualized mobile mass proletariat to serve their materialistic policy of world-wide power-centralization.

Wally Klinck

 http://www.bath.ac.uk/sps/news/news_0017.html

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Here is a short lecture by a Professor at the University of Bath.  His discussion concentrates on matters of policy in favour of a "Basic Income."  There is no indication as to whether he regards such a measure as to be implemented within the restrictions of the existing financial system or whether or not he is familiar with Social Credit.  He does not specify what quantitative measures might be involved in determining his concept of a "Basic Income".  What is interesting is that he, like a number of others, appears to be advancing the idea that such income supplements  should be both universal and unconditional.  This would appear to represent a positive transition of thought in itself compared to a number of earlier concepts of a basic income being a welfare state and tax-financed payment merely intended to maintain a certain basic level of income for those that fell under an amount estimated to be adequate to maintain a minimal lifestyle.   What this sort of thinking does indicate is a seeming progressive consideration of a supplementary payment of income based upon natural right or inheritance rather than traditional publicly funded State welfare or "charity.".  To what extent certain of these advocates may or may not have been influenced by Douglas and Social Credit is difficult to estimate.  Many are reluctant to give credit to Douglas because they fear it might jeopardize their careers and some would appear to prefer taking credit for the ideas of others without acknowledgement.  Nevertheless, the transition of thought apparently has been continuing and increasing although excruciatingly slow.  I was both pleased and encouraged recently when Karl Widerquist of the BIG movement advised that he was placing on their site links to two Social Credit texts accessible at Scribd--including Dr. Bryan Monahan's excellent book "An Introduction to Social Credit."    http://www.scribd.com/doc/112942854/Introduction-to-Social-Credit-by-Dr-Bryan-W-Monahan      http://www.scribd.com/doc/114593844/Money-in-Industry

Wally Klinck


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=1olNPk6if0c

[John G Rawson]

The idea of a universaL basic income has been promulgated for some years and appears to have considerable support world-wide.
In most cases it is a socialist idea based om taxation and the theory that "those nasty exploiters can afford to pay".  It seems almost impossible to get across to the socialist mind that practically all such taxation appears in equivalent price rises for goods. 
It would. of course, avoid costs of admin. of present welfare systems and be funded partly by that.  And reduce  a number of public servants to UBI-only status, which some might applaud.
 
J R

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