Re: Mob protest...who is next ? India !
library101
> The Egypt uprising bug...has reached India.
>
> This uprising bug...seem to attack on those nations friendly with the
> USA...those with fake democracy.
>
> Reuters reported that 100,000 Indians staged a protests in New Delhi
> with a picture showing the whole street occupied by sitting
> protesters. Another report...say that the Indian Prime Minister is
> being investigated for corruption involving billions of dollars.
>
> Is the Indian govt in danger ?
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/23/us-india-protests-idUSTRE71...
What is all this Voodoo Economics of Stock Markets and Casinos ?
- Can we investigate the Hell out of this ?
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While the stock markets bet on God and play voodoo economics (killing
the Only Living God on Earth, not following His orders at all, but
defeating Him in every way possible), the people wonder how could God
be doing this.
We need to get to the bottom of the voodoo done by the stock markets
in fixing prices of commodities around the world before we can slowly
unravel the game of the killers and thereby fix the prices to match
costs everywhere in the world. There ain't nothing like profit-taking
without any work done (except killing the Only Living God on Earth) !
Can we allow profit-taking like that ? Do we need to pay 'margins' for
stock traders who get paid for any honest work by Government anyways
(to meet costs incurred only), or 'residues' for agents who can get
paid for any honest work by Government anyways (to meet costs incurred
only)...
After all why do we need 'speculation' or 'gambling' to drive the life
of people around the world anyways ? What are they speculating or
gambling about anyways ? Activities of the Living God on Earth ? Is it
okay to gamble on the life of God and then Kill Him and keep all of
this secret in the name of 'Voodoo Economics' of Stock Markets and
Casinos and Gambling Dens ?
What the heck is going on out there ? Can someone investigate all
this ?
- HSN.
library101
Stock Markets and Casinos Place Bets on The One Living God on Earth
- Roots of Corruption are Profit-Taking, Margins, Residues etc.
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I do not know why you put my name at the end of your post ?
Also, you do not seem to see the reasons I state above.
For you, the solution to Corruption seems to be just replacing the
Head of State or asking him to commit suicide ?
Maybe that works for China or Singapore's Chinese or even Japan; for
other countries we need to get to the bottom of the matter; it is not
just one or two people in other countries. And there are a lot of
countries like that. Not just Bharat or USA or Britain or whatever.
The answer is not in replacing one or two people.
The whole 'Voodoo Economics' of placing bets on God (Stock Markets and
Casinos, etc.) needs to be understood by the world. Nobody knows that
except the killers who make their money doing that.
It is hard to believe in just an internet post like this.
- HSN.
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On Feb 23, 2:58 pm, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 12:23 am, library101 <h.s.nair...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Feb 23, 7:25 am, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The Egypt uprising bug...has reached India.
>
> > > This uprising bug...seem to attack on those nations friendly with the
> > > USA...those with fake democracy.
>
> > > Reuters reported that 100,000 Indians staged a protests in New Delhi
> > > with a picture showing the whole street occupied by sitting
>
> .> > protesters. Another report...say that the Indian Prime Minister
> is
> .> > being investigated for corruption involving billions of dollars.
>
> .> > Is the Indian govt in danger ?
>
>
>
> > - Can we investigate the Hell out of this ?
>
> What is there to investigate...Singh is corrupted...
> most of the Indian politicians are corrupted
> like theUS politicians.
> In most democracy..their leaders are corrupted...
> From Bush...to Obama...to all the US law makers.
> The only exception is Singapore....
> Corruption among minster stopped after LKY 'forced'
> one corrupt Minister (Teh Cheang Wan) to commit
> suicide in the 1986..
>
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From: library101 <h.s.nair...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:23:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Feb 23 2011 8:23 am
Subject: Re: Mob protest...who is next ? India !
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On Feb 23, 7:25 am, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Egypt uprising bug...has reached India.
> This uprising bug...seem to attack on those nations friendly with the
> USA...those with fake democracy.
> Reuters reported that 100,000 Indians staged a protests in New Delhi
> with a picture showing the whole street occupied by sitting
> protesters. Another report...say that the Indian Prime Minister is
> being investigated for corruption involving billions of dollars.
> Is the Indian govt in danger ?
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/23/us-india-protests-idUSTRE71...
What is all this Voodoo Economics of Stock Markets and Casinos ?
- Can we investigate the Hell out of this ?
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library101
You are for a 'Strongman' for yourself but I do not stand for that
solution for the World
- You have to go with what works in your place - it does not work at
the top of the world - only Use of Reason, Truth and Non-Violence
works with God
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It is wrong to call Bharat, USA, Britain, etc. corrupt societies.
They have a different mechanism for control of the population, that is
all.
The 'Strongman' has the 'Tian-an-men Square' style of dealing with
problems,
whereas these 'not-Strongman' countries keep changing their leaders
when problems are found -
instead of killing a large number of people who are 'violating' the
organization structure by resorting to 'too much reasoning' (over-
smart - or trying to be smarter than God).
Levelling corruption charges are the use of 'too much reasoning' or
'trying to be smarter than God'.
Corruption is a world problem. It is not a problem that is created by
any one person or leader in any one country.
And it cannot be solved by anyone other than God. Changing leaders
does not solve anything. It just delays the problem further and the
next leader will face the same problem.
- HSN.
On Feb 23, 3:58 pm, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 7:36 am, library101 <h.s.nair...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Stock Markets and Casinos Place Bets on The One Living God on Earth
> > - Roots of Corruption are Profit-Taking, Margins, Residues etc.
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------
>
> > I do not know why you put my name at the end of your post ?
>
> Sorry.
> I deleted the irrelevant parts of your post...but failed to
> delete the last line...your name.
>
>
>
> > Also, you do not seem to see the reasons I state above.
>
> It is irrelevant...
>
>
>
> > For you, the solution to Corruption seems to be just replacing the
> > Head of State or asking him to commit suicide ?
>
> Obviously you do not understand what I said.
>
> I repeat, in different words..what I said earlier:
>
> Democracy breeds corruption...Corruption thrives
> in all democracy...there is NO solution, unless....
>
> Only a strongman, a 'clean' man...one like LKY..who
> will be able to stop corruption. In democracy, people
> like LKY is rare...very, very rare. In corrupt societies
> like India, the USA...there is NO such strong and
> clean leader.
library101
Am I 'Equal' to a 'baldeagle' in the weight of what I say ?
Guess not...
He may need a referral to a 'Strongman';
Singapore, would you please investigate...
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Is it just your word against mine ? That easy ?
There are 'bigger' beings than the biggest fish, in case you did not
know that.
And I bet you may not be able to relate at all to the concept that
'Small' could be bigger than 'Big' and your idea of 'Smart' may just
be 'Drooling Bat' if you examine them a little bit. Otherwise, give me
examples of these 'Smarties' and I will show you their problem.
You seem to be 'wiser' than the Presidents of USA ! That is a heck of
a lot to say about a 'baldeagle' ! Why do you pick a name like that if
you are so sure of yourself; why not put your name to it and see what
happens; or maybe it is that your are not such a 'Strongman' after all
('weakman' or another 'Drooling Bat' who cannot back up his words by
identifying himself ? If you are not as 'Strong' as the Presidents of
USA to identify yourself, maybe you are not 'Strong' enough to post in
this newsgroup after all ! Just phony strength; of no use to
anyone...)
- HSN.
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On Feb 24, 12:45 pm, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 1:55 am, library101 <h.s.nair...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> .> You are for a 'Strongman' for yourself but I do not
> .> stand for that solution for the World
>
> Who care what you stand for..?
>
> In evolution....the big fish eat the small fish,..
> the strong dominate over the weak...the smart
> one rule over the not so smart ones...
>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------
>
> > It is wrong to call USA......, etc. corrupt societies.
>
> Bush and Obama accepted bribes from the interest
> groups, the rich 'donors' to fund their election campaigns...
> all US law makers took bribes from lobbyists...
> The US is one of the most corrupt society in the whole
> world.
library101
baldeagle,
I am not about to dispute what you claim about all these 'corruption'
numbers.
That is not what I was trying to address.
In fact, I have no interest in reading all the gory details.
God would not even bother to order such investigations. That is not
His style.
These kinds of things are done 'unilaterally' without His direct
orders.
I have stated in my post earlier that I acknowledge the existence of
the 'Corruption' problem in the 'non-Strongman' (or 'weakman')
countries.
Do you understand the difference between the 'big picture' and the
'small picture' ?
The 'small picture' is all the gory details of the numbers and dollars
and starvation and pennies here and pennies there and so on. All the
people who work for God are excellent at figuring all those kinds of
things. He does not need to bother with all those details. They are
all done for Him when He needs the information. This is not the time
for that. He has not ordered it now.
The 'big picture' is the 'confusion' and 'instability' and therefore
the 'violence' and 'death' and 'destruction' that result in not
following the orders of God and doing things like these investigations
'Unilaterally' without His orders.
God follows a strict order in moving forward in the world without
moving backwards. That is to look at the Top World Problem of the
moment and address it first. He cannot address lesser problems first
without risking 'world instability' and resulting 'death' and
'destruction'. That is unacceptable, because it is a defeat for the
One Living God on Earth to have his World become unstable. We live in
a world full of Weapons of Mass Destruction (Atom Bomb).
We cannot afford to have events in any part of the world go out of
control because of 'stupid', 'non-priority' issues like 'Corruption'
being raised by people without the proper Use of Reason and Root Cause
Analysis (Truth) that is essential for God.
I wrote earlier in my posts that 'Corruption' is a World-wide Problem
and not something that can be solved by changing a leader here or a
leader there ! Why don't you understand something as simple as that ?
Is my diagnosis of 'Drooling Bat' accurate in your case ?
< Sorry, I do not have enough time to read the details of your web
sites because it is not the right priority right now; maybe another
day, when it becomes a higher priority I might check back on my
posts ... I do not like 'rabble-rousers' and 'People Power' ideas and
'sensational journalism' and such use of force techniques - I do not
like the resulting 'world confusion' and 'world instability' - they
are not following the orders of God or the priority of God or the
methods of God...I cannot help such people...>
- HSN.
On Feb 25, 1:50 pm, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 1:01 am, library101 <h.s.nair...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> .> > > It is wrong to call USA......, etc. corrupt societies.
>
> .> > Bush and Obama accepted bribes from the interest
> .> > groups, the rich 'donors' to fund their election campaigns...
> .> > all US law makers took bribes from lobbyists...
> .> > The US is one of the most corrupt society in the whole
> .> > world.
>
> .> Is it just your word against mine ?
> .> Am I 'Equal' to a 'baldeagle' in the weight of what I say ?
> .> Guess not...
>
> It is not my words against your words. Yours is hot air,
> my words are based on facts. Can you substantiate
> you words ?
> I can.
>
> Can you prove that Indian PM was not involved in the
> sale of 2G telecom licenses in 2008 which cost
> India up to 40 billion dollars?
>
> I can show that Obama and other law makers have
> received campaign 'donation' and 'contribution' amounting
> to billions of dollars. See website:http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list_stfed.php?order=A
>
> I can show that between 2008 t0 2010 lobbyists spent
> over 10 billions dollars to line the pockets of law makers...
> to influence laws passed by them. See website:
>
> http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/index.php
>
> Can you show that Obama and US law makers
> are not corrupt ...they have not received 'contributions'
> or 'donations' from all top, powerful UScorporations or
> special interest groups ?!
library101
My comments on your comments about -
Obtaining 'Salvation by Grace' of God and Obtaining 'Salvation by
Work'
and 'Equating Earthly Property with Heavenly Property', etc.
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I believe that you are right about the 'Heavenly Property' definition
that seems to be in effect on the ground currently in USA at least. I
do not know the situation in Europe.
I believe those who are in 'Heaven' are keeping tabs on their
'properties' to return eventually to their 'properties' that they
built on the land they were given by Government or that they just
'took' for themselves.
The question of who owns the land would still remain, no matter how
you 'peel the banana', so to speak. There is no room left for any one
on Earth other than God to decide that question. I do not believe that
any Government can claim to be above God on that question. You may
verify this for yourselves from your own Government sources, if you do
not believe me.
Therefore returning to the roots of where you came from seems to be
the direction for the future. That leaves no room for invaders
anywhere (even European Puritan or Missionary led Military or
'Conquistadores' invasions or Slave Trails into the Americas for that
matter !).
As far as Salvation goes, you may reach your goal of obtaining the
Grace of God by different ways.
One of those ways is by doing your 'Work' or 'Duty' on earth. There is
no easy way to get there. Just in case you are wondering whether
'Salvation by Grace' is some other magical or easy technique for doing
that. There is no 'conflict' between the different ways of reaching
God. How could there be a 'conflict' between the paths when the goal
is the same (see excerpted statement below) ?
<<< ltl...@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:27:10 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Feb 27 2011 7:27 am
...
"the Christianity background which gave rise to the debate
between salvation by grace and salvation by work. The debate had no
solution, the people gave up. "
...>>>
It does not make sense to say that there is a 'debate' without a
'solution'. The debate itself is not making sense !
Those who get to this so-called 'Heaven' without the right 'papers' or
'qualifications' or 'with skeletons in the closet, so to speak' may be
on their way back down pretty soon. They will then need to worry about
'Heavenly Property' and such 'unwritten' laws of the land and possible
conflicts with the Only Living God on Earth.
'Homestead' laws and such property laws were used in the past to take
over lands where the American Indians (Red Indians) once lived and
moved about without any such land or other property ownership laws.
What happens to them when they bring in their concepts of property
ownership. The Chinese and Russian 'liberalization' of property laws
seems to be cautiously getting into this 'grey area' of inanimate
properties and their relationship to God.
Animate beings (Neanderthals, humans, automatons, clones, animals,
others ?) can claim to own their own bodies, at least ! I do not
believe that conflicts with the Only Living God on Earth.
After all, all the Animate beings and Inanimate matter in this world
are part of the one being of the One Living God on Earth as part of
His imagination.
Is there anything else left to say about 'existence' and 'non-
existence' of all living beings and 'dead' matter in this rather
'small' One World ?
- HSN.
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On Feb 27, 12:21 am, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
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"salvation by grace and salvation by work. The debate had no
solution, the people gave up. The Puritans decided to equate earthly
property with heavenly property."
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:42:05 -0800 (PST)
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People in every society own property.
What makes the U.S. and other cultures different is their
subscription to Protestant especially Puritan ethics. If one follows
the theology, property is not only the basis of earthy freedom, it
can also the basis of salvation. "
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