More Holofolky Questions
Buck Turgidson
Some researchers make challenging and troubling claims, which threaten
to overturn major aspects of the Holocaust story:
* Key witnesses to the Holocaust have either falsified or greatly
exaggerated important aspects of their stories.
* The figure of �six million� has little basis in fact. This
number, which theoretically could only have been known after the war,
actually traces back decades before.
* Major death camps, like Belzec, Sobibor, Chelmno, and Treblinka,
have vanished �without a trace��as have most of their alleged victims.
Such a thing is not possible.
* Both of the alleged means of gassing victims�Zyklon-B (cyanide)
and carbon monoxide from diesel exhaust�are impractical, unworkable, and
simply ridiculous.
* No �Holocaust order� from Hitler exists; nor was there any budget
or any plan. How, then, could the Nazis have pulled off their perfect
crime?
* Wartime air photos do not substantiate the traditional account of
events.
* Why are there, even today, so many �survivors�?
But, wait, the Holofolkies insist that Adolf killed the hebrews.
mirjam
> have vanished “without a trace”—as have most of their alleged victims.
> Such a thing is not possible.
Sobibor
http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/aa050899.htm
Kenneth McVay OBC
Buck Turgidson <turg...@adl.org> wrote:
>There remain, however, many open issues and many unanswered questions.
>Some researchers make challenging and troubling claims, which threaten
>to overturn major aspects of the Holocaust story:
>
> * Key witnesses to the Holocaust have either falsified or greatly
>exaggerated important aspects of their stories.
Name them, and document your assertion. Then explain how it is
that, of all the witnesses (more than a million Jews, Gentiles,
perpetrators, documents, etc.), what one or two may have said is
important.
> * The figure of �six million� has little basis in fact. This
>number, which theoretically could only have been known after the war,
>actually traces back decades before.
Your statement has no basis in fact. The figure, as any historian
will attest, is a convenient rounding off of many scholarly
estimates. See, for instance,
http://nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-08.html
> * Major death camps, like Belzec, Sobibor, Chelmno, and Treblinka,
>have vanished �without a trace��as have most of their alleged victims.
>Such a thing is not possible.
...which explains why they have not "vanished without a trace."
See, for instance,
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//aktion.reinhard/belzec/Archeological_Report
> * Both of the alleged means of gassing victims�Zyklon-B (cyanide)
>and carbon monoxide from diesel exhaust�are impractical, unworkable, and
>simply ridiculous.
...and yet both were employed, and both were effective.
Funny, that.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/diesel-01.html
> * No �Holocaust order� from Hitler exists; nor was there any budget
>or any plan. How, then, could the Nazis have pulled off their perfect
>crime?
Please explain why you believe it was a "perfect crime," since it
demonstrably was not, and explain the invoices (hint: invoices =
plan = budget) for such things as massive crematoria, massive
transport records showing passengers taken to camps and never
leaving... I'll wait.
> * Wartime air photos do not substantiate the traditional account of
>events.
What is the "traditional account of events," and which
photographs do not "show it?"
> * Why are there, even today, so many �survivors�?
As I pointed out, it was not a perfect crime. There were,
according to Nazi estimates, more than 11,000,000 Jews in Europe
at the time of the Wannsee Conference. 5,000,000 or more
survived.
By the way, how many survivors are there, and where can we
document your figures?
I'll wait...
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Patrick Keenan
"Buck Turgidson" <turg...@adl.org> wrote in message
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> There remain, however, many open issues and many unanswered questions.
> Some researchers make challenging and troubling claims, which threaten
> to overturn major aspects of the Holocaust story:
Unfortunately, those "researchers" only have claims, not actual evidence,
and they don't threaten "to overturn major aspects of the Holocaust story".
> * Key witnesses to the Holocaust have either falsified or greatly
> exaggerated important aspects of their stories.
In point of fact, this is false. Meanwhile, Holocaust deniers and
"revisionists" such as yourself rely almost exclusively on falsehood.
> * The figure of "six million" has little basis in fact. This
> number, which theoretically could only have been known after the war,
> actually traces back decades before.
In reality, we know from many statistical sources, many of them coming from
the Nazi's own records as well as pre- and post- war censuses, that over
five million Jews were killed.
> * Major death camps, like Belzec, Sobibor, Chelmno, and Treblinka,
> have vanished "without a trace"
This is simply false.
> -as have most of their alleged victims.
> Such a thing is not possible.
And not only is it not possible, it's not true.
Thanks for demonstrating so ably that Holocaust denial and "revisionism" do
not exist without a reliance on falsehood.
-pk
Gord McFee
> There remain, however, many open issues and many unanswered questions.
> Some researchers make challenging and troubling claims, which threaten
> to overturn major aspects of the Holocaust story:
>
> * Key witnesses to the Holocaust have either falsified or greatly
> exaggerated important aspects of their stories.
> * The figure of �six million� has little basis in fact. This
> number, which theoretically could only have been known after the war,
> actually traces back decades before.
> * Major death camps, like Belzec, Sobibor, Chelmno, and Treblinka,
> have vanished �without a trace��as have most of their alleged victims.
> Such a thing is not possible.
> * Both of the alleged means of gassing victims�Zyklon-B (cyanide)
> and carbon monoxide from diesel exhaust�are impractical, unworkable, and
> simply ridiculous.
> * No �Holocaust order� from Hitler exists; nor was there any budget
> or any plan. How, then, could the Nazis have pulled off their perfect
> crime?
> * Wartime air photos do not substantiate the traditional account of
> events.
> * Why are there, even today, so many �survivors�?
http://www.holocaust-history.org/revisionism-isnt/
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