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MsInsder

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Feb 6, 2007, 6:45:45 AM2/6/07
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I guess we will see how that goes

"Proud Man" <prou...@mensrights.org> wrote in message
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> (Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when
> a man would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will
> only stick her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man) -PM
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt
>
> By MIKE SCHNEIDER,
>
> Associated Press Writer
>
> Feb. 6, 2007
>
> An astronaut drove 900 miles and donned a disguise to confront a woman
> she believed was her rival for the affections of a space shuttle
> pilot, police said. She was arrested Monday and charged with attempted
> kidnapping and other counts.
>
> U.S. Navy Capt. Lisa Nowak, 43, who flew last July on a shuttle
> mission to the international space station, was also charged with
> attempted vehicle burglary with battery, destruction of evidence and
> battery. She was denied bail and is scheduled to make a court
> appearance Tuesday.
>
> Police said Nowak drove from her home in Houston to the Orlando
> International Airport to confront Colleen Shipman.
>
> Nowak believed Shipman was romantically involved with Navy Cmdr.
> William Oefelein, a pilot during space shuttle Discovery's trip to the
> space station last December, police said.
>
> Nowak told police that her relationship with Oefelein was "more than a
> working relationship but less than a romantic relationship," according
> to an arrest affidavit. Police officers recovered a love letter to
> Oefelein in her car.
>
> NASA spokesman James Hartsfield in Houston said that, as of Monday,
> Nowak's status with the astronaut corps remained unchanged.
>
> "What will happen beyond that, I will not speculate," he said.
>
> Hartsfield said he couldn't recall the last time an astronaut was
> arrested and said there were no rules against fraternizing among
> astronauts.
>
> When she found out that Shipman was flying to Orlando from Houston,
> Nowak decided to confront her, according to the arrest affidavit.
> Nowak raced from Houston to Orlando wearing diapers, so she wouldn't
> have to stop to urinate, authorities said.
>
> Dressed in a wig and a trench coat, Nowak boarded an airport bus that
> Shipman took to her car in an airport parking lot. Shipman told police
> she noticed someone following her, hurried inside the car and locked
> the doors, according to the arrest affidavit.
>
> Nowak rapped on the window, tried to open the car door and asked for a
> ride. Shipman refused but rolled down the car window a few inches when
> Nowak started crying. Nowak then sprayed a chemical into Shipman's
> car, the affidavit said.
>
> Shipman drove to the parking lot booth, and the police were called.
>
> During a check of the parking lot, an officer followed Nowak and
> watched her throw away a bag containing the wig and BB gun. They also
> found a steel mallet, a 4-inch folding knife, rubber tubing, $600 and
> garbage bags inside a bag Nowak was carrying when she was arrested,
> authorities said.
>
> Inside Nowak's vehicle, which was parked at a nearby motel,
> authorities uncovered a pepper spray package, an unused BB-gun
> cartridge, latex gloves and e-mails between Shipman and Oefelein. They
> also found a letter "that indicated how much Mrs. Nowak loved Mr.
> Oefelein," an opened package for a buck knife, Shipman's home address
> and hand written directions to the address, the arrest affidavit said.
>
> Police said Nowak told them that she only wanted to scare Shipman into
> talking to her about her relationship with Oefelein and didn't want to
> harm her physically.
>
> "If you were just going to talk to someone, I don't know that you
> would need a wig, a trench coat, an air cartridge BB gun and pepper
> spray," said Sgt. Barbara Jones, a spokeswoman for the Orlando Police
> Department. "It's just really a very sad case. ... Now she ends up
> finding herself on the other side of the law with some very serious
> charges."
>
> If convicted of attempted kidnapping, Nowak could face a maximum of
> life in prison.
>
> It was not immediately known whether Nowak had an attorney.
>
> Oefelein and Shipman did not immediately return phone messages Monday
> night.
>
> According to NASA's official biography, Nowak is married with three
> children. During her 13-day mission in July she operated the robotic
> arm during three spacewalks.
>
> Oefelein is unmarried. He piloted the space shuttle Discovery in
> December. He has two children, according to a NASA biography.
>
> Nowak and Oefelein were both first-time fliers during their shuttle
> missions last year. They trained together but never flew together.
>
> --
> Link:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested&printer=1;_ylt=AvlkT0tF_dyk11yK4SfefDBH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-

ci+

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Proud Man <prou...@mensrights.org> in news:0fmgs25cpmqsotgkh...@4ax.com:

> -----


lesson: keep away from space cases....

Kadaitcha Man

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MsInsder <msi...@hotmail.com> Thou publican. Thou croaking raven. Thou
embossed carbuncle. Thou flax-wench. Ye objurgated and ye declaimed:

> I guess we will see how that goes

No shit, Shylock? Fuck me dead, if you were any sharper you'd slice yourself
into ribbons.


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conn...@hotmail.com <conn...@hotmail.com> Thou scarlet sin. Thou gross
hag. Thou spendthrift of tongue. Watch out he's winding the watch of his
wit, by and by it will strike. Ye stage-whispered and ye gushed:

> On Feb 6, 11:23 pm, "Kadaitcha Man" <fuck-you.ya.c...@kiss-my-big-


> black-ass.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> No shit, Shylock? Fuck me dead, if you were any sharper you'd slice
>> yourself into ribbons.
>

> Well, I've just upgraded from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 and have found
> the experience quite rewarding.
>
> I've only got a 386 with 16Mb of RAM.
>
> Apparently Vista runs quite well within those constraints. lol

I wholeheartedly agree with you, Connor; Vista runs at its very best when
it's not running at all.

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Skipper

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Feb 6, 2007, 11:47:15 AM2/6/07
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In article <f44hs2164rqa383eq...@4ax.com>, Proud Man
<prou...@mensrights.org> wrote:

> On 6 Feb 2007 03:54:04 -0800, "PK Smith" <PSmit...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> >On Feb 6, 7:45 pm, "MsInsder" <msin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I guess we will see how that goes
> >

> >10-1 that the court will rule she was stressed, and deserves special
> >treatment.
>
> Of course they will. It was "space sickness" or some other excuse.
>
> It always is an excuse.....for women, that is.
>
> For men, accountability and responsibility are always enforced
> in the Fem-dom, no matter what the extenuating circumstances
> might be, while women walk away scot-free without a care in the world.
>
> >We live in The Feminist Republic of America.
>
> And not just in America either, but in all free civilized western
> countries in the northern hemisphere.

Apparently, she was "stressed" enough to wear a diaper while driving so
she didn't have to stop to pee on the way to her "mission." I don't
think she'll get off easy on this one - pretty sure she won't be going
into orbit except in her mind from now on.

Mark W. Oots

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Feb 6, 2007, 1:25:15 PM2/6/07
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Space...

The FINAL frontier...

of infidelity.

Mark

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suckmysav

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Feb 6, 2007, 9:50:31 PM2/6/07
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:35:29 -0800, Proud Man wrote:

> (Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when a man
> would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will only stick
> her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man) -PM

Her lawyers will probably draw attention to earlier precedents of
astronauts kidnapping people.

I don't remember Major Anthony Nelson getting much more than a rap over
the knuckles for his misdeeds.

http://www.idreamofjeannie.com/

KenPisano

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Feb 6, 2007, 9:53:52 PM2/6/07
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:50:31 +1100, suckmysav <bre...@home.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:35:29 -0800, Proud Man wrote:
>
>> (Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when a man
>> would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will only stick
>> her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man) -PM
>
>Her lawyers will probably draw attention to earlier precedents of
>astronauts kidnapping people.
>
>I don't remember Major Anthony Nelson getting much more than a rap over
>the knuckles for his misdeeds.
>
>http://www.idreamofjeannie.com/
>
>

Yeah, but it wasn't like Dr. Bellows wasn't trying.

the Curmudgeon

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Feb 7, 2007, 12:51:26 AM2/7/07
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KenPisano wrote in news:eofis2l2j6e5m39hv...@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:50:31 +1100, suckmysav <bre...@home.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:35:29 -0800, Proud Man wrote:
>>
>>> (Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when a
>>> man would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will
>>> only stick her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man)
>>> -PM
>>
>>Her lawyers will probably draw attention to earlier precedents of
>>astronauts kidnapping people.
>>
>>I don't remember Major Anthony Nelson getting much more than a rap
>>over the knuckles for his misdeeds.
>>
>>http://www.idreamofjeannie.com/
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, but it wasn't like Dr. Bellows wasn't trying.
>
>

LOL

When I first heard about this story that was one of the first things I
thought of - "Where is Dr. Bellows when you need him?"


the Curmudgeon

the Curmudgeon

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Lost <lost...@mailinator.com> wrote in news:45c925cc$0$97247$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net:

> Proud Man <prou...@mensrights.org> wrote:
>
>>(Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when
>>a man would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will
>>only stick her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man) -PM
>

> Why haven't they arrested a man yet?
>
>

My prediction is that she won't spend any hard time in jail, but will be
ordered to undergo counseling and therapy. Apparently she has issues that
are only slowly coming to light. I don't know if anyone here has read the
latest AP news story about this that just came out - They interviewed a
next-door neighbor of hers in Houston who commented that he could hear her
and her husband arguing and fighting on more than one occasion, and he said
that he has actually heard the sound of dishes breaking, like dishes being
thrown and broken while the arguing was going on.


the Curmudgeon

the Curmudgeon

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Feb 7, 2007, 1:05:14 AM2/7/07
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the Curmudgeon <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in
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P.S. to Parg/Hyerdahl, currently in my "bozo bin":

I don't think thrown pasta would make the same sort of breaking and
crashing noises.......

LOL


the Curmudgeon

Bernd Jendrissek

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Feb 7, 2007, 5:06:16 AM2/7/07
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>(Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when a man
>would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will only stick
>her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man) -PM

Well, she assaulted a woman, so going by your theory of universal female
apologeticism (I made up that word) in US society, it's a bit like
asking, if you put a hungry dog halfway between two bowls of food, does
it starve to death?

- --
You're proposing to build a box with a light on top of it. The light is
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Hardpan

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Feb 7, 2007, 5:52:22 AM2/7/07
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:50:31 +1100, suckmysav <bre...@home.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 02:35:29 -0800, Proud Man wrote:
>
>> (Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when a man
>> would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will only stick
>> her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man) -PM
>
>Her lawyers will probably draw attention to earlier precedents of
>astronauts kidnapping people.
>
>I don't remember Major Anthony Nelson getting much more than a rap over
>the knuckles for his misdeeds.
>
>http://www.idreamofjeannie.com/


That's because Jeannie (Barbara Eden) made everyone forget about
everything weird that magically happened around her, with her powers.

Cripes, I thought everyone knew that :-)

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Hardpan

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Feb 7, 2007, 5:52:52 AM2/7/07
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:47:15 -0800, Skipper <skipsp...@charter.net>
wrote:

Well, babies and diapers go together, don't they?

Just goes to show you that psych profiles have a long way to go
because they didn't weed this nutcase out of flying on an expensive
shuttle mission.

Q: How hard can it be for a woman like this "astronaut" to find a
man that they don't work with to hook up with, anyway?

A: Oh that's right; she was already married, with three
children.

Oy Vey !

KenPisano

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Feb 7, 2007, 10:57:28 AM2/7/07
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:05:14 GMT, the Curmudgeon <nob...@nowhere.com>
wrote:


"Parg/Hyerdahl" has been strangely silent about this.

Probably waiting for the official defense team to kick in.

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Largo

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Feb 10, 2007, 4:23:25 PM2/10/07
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On Feb 6, 4:35 am, Proud Man <proud...@mensrights.org> wrote:
> (Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when
> a man would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will
> only stick her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man) -PM
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---------------------

> Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt
> --
> Link:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested&pr...

I've never seen a poster more in the power of a group he purports to
hate--in this case women--than you; a prison that you yourself have
constructed for them, without them even asking, to hold yourself.

Coats

pakih...@yahoo.ca

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Feb 11, 2007, 3:16:08 PM2/11/07
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On Feb 6, 2:35 am, Proud Man <proud...@mensrights.org> wrote:
> (Wonder how many weeks this 'professional' will be in jail, when
> a man would get YEARS for trying his same stunt? Perhaps they will
> only stick her in the funny farm, instead of in prison like a man) -PM
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---------------------
> Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt
>
> Nowak raced from Houston to Orlando wearing diapers, so she wouldn't
> have to stop to urinate, authorities said.
> --
> Link:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested&pr...

this is likely the hag syndrome at work. her rival is 13 yrs younger
than
than her. her husband probably refuses to have sex with her.
she wasted her youth concentrating on career and now it is
to late to be anything but dried up old hag. hag rage.

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