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New from McDonald's to U.S. customers con amor: "How would you like our illegal alien employees to prepare your toxic MADE IN CHINA chicken McNuggets?

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GWashingtonFan

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:09:50 AM11/4/09
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Chinese chicken: Which fast food chain may serve you this scary import?

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and government, so let us tie the second down
with the chains of the Constitution so the
second will not become the legalized version
of the first.
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rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on
setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men.
--Samuel Adams

The strongest reason for the people to retain
the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last
resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
in government.
-- Thomas Jefferson

A free people ought not only to be armed and
disciplined, but they should have sufficient
arms and ammunition to maintain a status of
independence from any who might attempt to
abuse them, which would include their own
government."
-- George Washington

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dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to
the slaughter.
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When governments fear the people there is liberty.
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small ... the people, without exaggeration, may
be said to be entirely the masters of their own fate.
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-- Thomas Jefferson

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lorad

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Nov 4, 2009, 2:08:45 AM11/4/09
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On Nov 3, 10:09 pm, "GWashingtonFan" <GWashingtonFan_USA> wrote:
> Chinese chicken: Which fast food chain may serve you this scary import?
>
> http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/10/29/chinese-chickens-which-fast-foo
> d-chain-may-serve-you-this-scary/?icid=main|aim|dl3|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fw
> ww.walletpop.com%2Fblog%2F2009%2F10%2F29%2Fchinese-chickens-which-fast-f
> ood-chain-may-serve-you-this-scary%2F

>   Merchants have no country. The mere spot they


>   stand on does not constitute so strong an
>   attachment as that from which they draw their gains.
>   -- Thomas Jefferson
>
>   I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy
>   of our monied corporations which dare already to
>   challenge our government to a trial by strength,
>   and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
>   -- Thomas Jefferson
>
>   I believe that banking institutions are more
>   dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
>   -- Thomas Jefferson

If they import that S---T, me and Mickee Dees part company...
permanently.

Dänk 1010011010

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Nov 4, 2009, 5:35:30 AM11/4/09
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On Nov 3, 11:09 pm, "GWashingtonFan" <GWashingtonFan_USA> wrote:
> Chinese chicken: Which fast food chain may serve you this scary import?

I don't trust food products from China, but U.S. farm products are
probably not much safer.

The outbreak of the 'Mad Cow' prion disease caused the U.S. government
to prohibit the practice of feeding cow scraps to cows - particularly
the most hazardous organs, such as brain and spinal tissue. But it
would be inefficient to throw away those protein-filled tissues, so
they process them into chicken feed instead.

While chickens are not susceptible to prion diseases, prions are
indigestible and build up in tissues like other toxins, and a mammal
who eats prion-infected chicken (or even fish) can develop prion
disease.

As you probably have noticed, birds shit a lot and their droppings
contains lots of undigested material. It would be inefficient to
waste all those undigested carbohydrates and proteins, so chicken
droppings are collected and mixed with chicken scraps and processed
into cattle feed, including any bovine prions the chickens ingested.

This practice is unhealthy and disgusting, and only slightly better
than Chinese farming in that political prisoners and melamine are not
added to the processed animal feed. But if you ever wondered why
'organic' meat costs 5x as much as 'regular' meat, this is why.

我就喜欢 !

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 4, 2009, 8:12:03 PM11/4/09
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"GWashingtonFan" <GWashingtonFan_USA> wrote in message
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> Chinese chicken: Which fast food chain may serve you this scary import?

So, can we take it that you are in favour of Governments controlling your
food supply?

johnny@.

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Nov 4, 2009, 9:22:45 PM11/4/09
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In the case of China, that would be yes. Remember all the dogs that
died from eating dog food from China?

All food products should have a label of origin, then the people can
choose what to buy. Of course countries like Mexico and China are
against this.

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 4, 2009, 11:10:32 PM11/4/09
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" johnny@." <joh...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Patrick Keenan wrote:
>> "GWashingtonFan" <GWashingtonFan_USA> wrote in message
>> news:NoGdnSsTXJozh2zX...@giganews.com...
>>> Chinese chicken: Which fast food chain may serve you this scary import?
>>
>> So, can we take it that you are in favour of Governments controlling your
>> food supply?
>>
>
> In the case of China, that would be yes. Remember all the dogs that died
> from eating dog food from China?

Yes, I do.

Do you remember all the *people* who died from eating food intended for
human consumption, grown and packed in the USA?

Do you remember the Swedes and Norwegians who died or suffered liver damage
after consuming food supplements made in California?

Perhaps you should also consider having US-made food products subject to
effective controls, too.

Just a thought.

But wait... effective controls might cost something, and either prices or
taxes would rise. So that idea is probably off the table.

> All food products should have a label of origin, then the people can
> choose what to buy. Of course countries like Mexico and China are against
> this.

I live in Canada, and I can't really think of any food products that don't
list their country of origin. I very regularly see food products labelled
as products of Mexico and China (and pretty much of everywhere else that has
a functioning economy and arable land).

So I have to say that I'm really not sure you're on solid ground with that
particular assertion about resistance to labels coming from Mexico and
China.

Anyway, here's a handy tip: Labels of origin don't guarantee either quality
or safety.

You're going to need something more than a sticker to do that.

Hope this helps.
-pk

lorad

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Nov 5, 2009, 12:43:03 AM11/5/09
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All that needs to happen is that NO maoist crap be allowed to enter
the US unless that crap had been inspected by competent US FDA
personnel - just the way it used to be before the neocon crooks of the
Bush regime did away with those inspections.

As for canadians... you all can eat what you want to - and see if we
care.

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:44:25 PM11/7/09
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"lorad" <lora...@cs.com> wrote in message
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How is food "maoist"? I've must say that I've never seen a clove of garlic
express a political stance of any description.

| be allowed to enter
|the US unless that crap had been inspected by competent US FDA

You already have a food inspection program. I certainly agree that it was
seriously weakened by US governments.

The real question is whether you are *willing to pay for a better one*,
since most of the serious outbreaks of food-borne disease in the US come
from products *produced in the US*.

The facts clearly show that inspecting imported foods just isn't "all that
needs to happen". That won't do *anything* to address the more common
sources oif your food-supply problems.

|personnel - just the way it used to be before the neocon crooks of the
|Bush regime did away with those inspections.

FDA inspections have not been "done away with". In addition, food
inspections are also State and municipal responsibilities. But no matter
who actually performs the inspection, they're probably going to want to be
paid for it.

So, I will take your somewhat ill-informed comment as confirming that you,
too, are in favour of increased Government oversight of your food system,
and the higher taxes and/or prices that necessarily go with that.

Apparently, you're another accidental socialist.

|
|As for canadians... you all can eat what you want to - and see if we
|care.

Apparently you don't understand that my comment simply responds to the
previous poster's claim of "resistance to labelling by Mexico and China" and
shows that that claim has no real basis, and is likely fabricated. Both of
those nations abide by labelling rules to sell their products in other
countries.

In addition, US law since 1930 has required country of origin labelling on a
wide variety of food products. Hpowever, one of your underlying problems
is that your laws do not always require labels on processed foods to
identify the sources of the components. So, a food product such as a hot
dog, for example, might carry a "made in USA" label but really contain meat,
filler, or chemicals from anywhere.

Finally, it's really your problem if you don't care that the food supply of
other nations is more secure than yours, and it's your problem if think that
shutting out foods from other nations does anything at all about the
problems you have with food produced within your borders.

Hope this helps.
-pk


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