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i think it's just the anal retentive people who'd have problems with it.
AND IT'S MY FIRST PROM!!!
well, maybe you could ask the prom committee if there is one. the
committee in my school is all for it.
rose
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That Irritateing blond wrote:
>
> Hey, a friend of mine is planning to go to the prom... anyone else
> have experiences with same sex datest to the prom? just wonderin what
> the schooldistrict might say
> thanks.
> There are things worth fighting and dying for, but none worth killing for
I went to my *junior* prom with a guy friends of mine (we're both bi).
Neither of us cared who knew, we just wanted to stop hiding. We had great
fun at the dance. Our friends we really cool about it too (they knew).
IMO, it's none of the school's business who you take to the prom. Our
school didn't (and still doesn't) have any rules about sexuality relating
to in-school relationships (it's worth checking into). If I was your
friend I would go for it. He/she should be certain that he/she and
his/her date are comfortable with it and that they'll have friends at the
prom that can support them if needed.
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In Article <5kuk04$o...@news.csus.edu>, dho...@indiana.edu Says:
> Well, you should read the book "Reflections of a Rock Lobster" by Aaron
> Fricke, is great reading on this issue. He documents his attempt to take
> a same gender prom date to his HS prom. I can say that at my "very gay
> friendly" school district, with a homo-hater for a priniciple at my High
> School, that many gay couples went each year, however the principle really
> looked down his nose at them, however there was not much he could do. I am
> part of a group now, called IYG(Indiana Youth Group), which is for gay youth
> under the age of 21, and I know in late may, they are having a big gay
> prom, for gay youth, in Indianapolis, Indiana. :-) so it is possible,
> just not widely done, whether it be a gay prom, or a regular prom, going
> as a same-gender couple. Good Luck!
I'm also a member of the IYG and I attend their Prom last year. I took
my current boyfriend, Robert, with me. We danced and partied for a good
part of the evening, and then went to King's Island the next day.
We had a wonderful time. I hope there are more like them around the
country.
Matt
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hi. um, i'm nineteen right now, and i need advice. i was wondering if
anyone knew where i could get low car insurance, i mean, it's so expensive
for someone this young....no wait...wrong topic...actually i need advice
concerning my orientation. jeez, felt wierd writing that. but anyways,
this is the first time i've ever been to this list, or posted for that
matter, and i'm hoping someone out there who knows what i'm talking about
could help me. i don't even know where to start. how about, i have a
sexual attraction to both men and women. i dunno, does the lines between
homosexuality/bisexuality or any sexuality for that matter lie within who
you're willing to sleep with? i like to think not. i mean, i can see
myself having a relationship with anyone. and this just isn't a sexual
thing, i mean, people are people, man or woman, and if it's the
personality and being that are important, then wouldn't orientation boil
down to who you'll have sex with? that's what i've come to, but i don't
think it's something that simple. but then wht is it? i guess what i'm
asking is, what is the definition of gay/bi? i've fantasized about both,
and both "excite me" at times. from what i hear, it's normal for a
"straight" man to have fantasies about other guys. so does orientation
lie within acting out on those fantasies? but i've never had a homosexual
experience, so could i call myself such? then again, i've never had a
heterosexual experince either but i can't say i'm not heterosexual. know
what i mean? at this point it seems sort of wierd to think like
this, that i am gay. makes me feel funny to write that out, as these
thoughts have been on my mind forever, but i've never told a soul. but
that i think about it, i've always had homosexual feelings. but, to a
lesser degree, i'm also attracted to women physically too. i dunno, i'd
say bisexual, but it seems like i'm just being non-commital. and even if i
do, the thought of being with a guy (by the way, i'm male) seems so much
more exciting.
i figure what i'm feeling now has crossed through the minds of many who
are here on the list, but i'm not looking for, nor expecting, simple
answers. but any help would be deeply appreciated.
mark;
Ciao 4 now,
Jay Croce cmt, cnmt
Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
Dear Mark,
I am a bisexual man who only decided that I really liked that label at age
31.
Your feeling that using the word "bisexual" makes you sound like you can't
commit might come from stereotypes about bisexuals that come from the
straight, and unfortunately, many in the gay communities. Don't worry
right now about
committing to images or labels--commit to accepting yourself as you
are--and to
whatever person of whichever sex you find!
Rob
bisexuality
Well, as you suspected, what you're feeling is not so strange. I've
felt it myself. It sounds to me that you are not completely straight.
But that's certainly NOT a bad thing! It is possible you are a
homosexual, it is possible that you aree a bisexual. The label isn'tthat
important. The important thing is that you find what makes you happy. If
that is with a man, so be it.
You are not the only one who is confused. I still am to a degree.
If your mind and feelings are competing, go with the feelings. They
usually win anyway.
James
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Alias: "Crustacean Jim"
Hi Mark,
Good intro :-)
>actually i need advice
>concerning my orientation. jeez, felt wierd writing that.
Congratulations. You just proved that you're willing to deal with it.
That's a good portion of the battle taken care of right off.
>i have a
>sexual attraction to both men and women. i dunno, does the lines between
>homosexuality/bisexuality or any sexuality for that matter lie within who
>you're willing to sleep with? i like to think not.
Speaking in terms of what works for me (not the clinical definition), I
think that orientation is a combination of affection and arousal - who you
like and who excites you. You can see this opens up a wide spectrum from
straight to gay, with lots of space in between. It sounds like you're
positioned somewhere in that space.
>from what i hear, it's normal for a
>"straight" man to have fantasies about other guys. so does orientation
>lie within acting out on those fantasies?
I don't think so. I think it's more a matter of straight guys bowing to the
pressure of "the norm" and refusing to acknowledge any attraction other
than that for the opposite sex.
>but i've never had a homosexual
>experience, so could i call myself such?
You can call yourself Bill Clinton if you want to - my point is that it
really doesn't matter. You need to be comfortable with who you are. If that
means that you are attracted to both men and women, then that's you. The
key is to accept this and move on.
>at this point it seems sort of wierd to think like
>this, that i am gay. makes me feel funny to write that out, as these
>thoughts have been on my mind forever, but i've never told a soul. but
>that i think about it, i've always had homosexual feelings.
You may not be gay. You may not be straight, either. You are different from
what society considers "normal," if only because you are willing to accept
the fact that you might not be heterosexual. If you can deal with that
fact, then you're making forward progress. Mind you, that definition of
"normal" is antiquated and totally irrelevent.
>i dunno, i'd
>say bisexual, but it seems like i'm just being non-commital. and even if i
>do, the thought of being with a guy (by the way, i'm male) seems so much
>more exciting.
I would argue with "non-commital." Because a part of you is attracted to
women and it doesn't fit into the predefined slots, it should be repressed
and ignored? I think not! I see that as cutting off a part of your life - a
part that may bring you happiness, if not now, then perhaps some time in
the future. Don't sacrifice that solely to be "normal."
Take care,
Tom
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