Electrology 2000 is highly Overrated...
Bethann8
This is my opinion...OK... but I have two clients that have gone to
Electrology 2000 4 to 5 times.
They use the "flash" method of hair removal, which, in my opinion, has an
extremely low "kill rate". The two girls I know have spent over $10,000 and
still have a significany amount of hair on their faces.
Hell, by the time people spend $5000 with me....their genitals are cleared !
Not bragging, I just think what I am doing is reasonable and nothing
spectacular. I do use the blend method, which most good electrologists use.
Multiple needle galvanic electrolysis is also a good method, but few do this.
Impatience is what drives most to use Electrology 2000, but the waste of
money is quite high.
I know these are strong words....electrolysis is not an exact science....but
most of us who study what is happening inside the hair follicle think the blend
method is far superior to the flash method.
Even these girls that have been to E2000 think they are great....maybe the
tendency to "be in denial" is strong when you have spent a small fortune.
Anyway, this is what I have seen....I do admit this is a small sample
Bethanne in Nashville, TN.
lori
electrologist is risky. All I can say is this: I went to E-2000 a long
time ago, don't regret it one bit, and it was effective. Don't get me
wrong, if this photoflashy thing is proven effective, or some similar
technology comes out in the future, I will probably be a client. Until
then, if and when I ever decide to do any more hair removal, I will be a
client of E-2000. And I don't care for Texas. Sorry Bren.
Lori Stewart
Bethann8 wrote in message
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LoreeTG
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>> Hi Girls,
>> This is my opinion...OK... but I have two clients that have gone to
>>Electrology 2000 4 to 5 times.
>> They use the "flash" method of hair removal, which, in my opinion, has
>an
>>extremely low "kill rate".
I've been debating with myself about E2000 and, given your track record on
TS issues, Bethanne, I'm gonna take your advise for exactly what it worth.
Thanks for helping me decide to use E2000!
Hugs,
Loree Thomas
Seattle
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sar...@my-dejanews.com
similar successes with both so she is open to using either. I wanted to try
each method so we are doing exactly that. We have cleared my right cheek,
chin and upper lip with 'Blend'. Now we are working with flash on the other
side, which is progressing FAR faster. This is definitely not a scientific
test, only one subject, ME. But the other side of that is that there are NO
variables between subjects.
Flash is definitely more painful and can leave redness on my face for several
days, nothing that can't be covered with Foundation, though.
BTW, she has asked me to go with her to her 'School' to test new methods and
new equipment, her 'Guinea Pig' in electrolysis.
Sarah
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is using me as her 'guinea pig'.
It is called 'Dermine', uses alcohol as a carrier and numbs the skin well.
Using 'Flash', it reduces the pain on my upper lip to about 'Blend' intensity.
Using 'Blend', I felt almost nothing, actually got bored while she zapped my
upper lip!
I can get more info if any one needs it!
inix...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
I could be that you are right. But my experience and all those I have
polled (as substantive number, believe me) is exactly the opposite of what
you report here.
My total costs was well under $10,000 including travel expenses. Since my
last vist there in January, 8 hairs have appeared on my face. The genital
area appears to have been permanently cleared as well.
I have no complaint for a person trying to make a living nor attacking a
competitor, but I do wonder about your own veracity in publishing that your
service is better and less expensive by citing two cases which can not be
independently verified. That sort of promotion simply is counter
productive in most business fields, yours as well, I daresay.
--
Sallyanne
Bethann8 <beth...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> Hi Girls,
> This is my opinion...OK... but I have two clients that have gone to
> Electrology 2000 4 to 5 times.
> They use the "flash" method of hair removal, which, in my opinion, has
an
Diane
>BTW, she has asked me to go with her to her 'School' to test new methods and
>new equipment, her 'Guinea Pig' in electrolysis.
Thing about Guinea Pigs is that they're just as likely to verify
a negative result as a positive one. If you have the urge to
experiment on your face well then try a new lipstick :).
----------------
Diane
inix...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
have enough problems.
SA
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Jeannette
Jeannette
LoreeTG wrote in message <6sejle$g8t$1...@slave2.aa.net>...
>>Bethann8 wrote in message
>><199808301515...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>>> Hi Girls,
>>> This is my opinion...OK... but I have two clients that have gone to
>>>Electrology 2000 4 to 5 times.
>>> They use the "flash" method of hair removal, which, in my opinion, has
>>an
>>>extremely low "kill rate".
>
Leslie F.
>It is called 'Dermine', uses alcohol as a carrier and numbs the skin well.
>Using 'Flash', it reduces the pain on my upper lip to about 'Blend' intensity.
>Using 'Blend', I felt almost nothing, actually got bored while she zapped my
>upper lip!
>I can get more info if any one needs it!
Hi Sarah,
Yes, I would like info. on Dermine. Who makes it, Where to get it,
cost and whether one needs a prescription or not.
Thanks.
Leslie
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Nitsa
> This is my opinion...OK... but I have two clients that have gone to
>Electrology 2000 4 to 5 times.
> They use the "flash" method of hair removal, which, in my opinion, has an
LoreeTG
scarring and regrowth from E2000 in the face of overwhelming first hand
reports that it just isn't so.
Makes you wonder just how good they actually are. If it were me, I'd choose
an electro that didn't misrepresent the competition as they are more likly
to be honest in other sreas too.
Nitsa
Andrea Bennett
<199808301515...@ladder01.news.aol.com> beth...@aol.com
(Bethann8) wrote:
> Impatience is what drives most to use Electrology 2000, but the waste of
>money is quite high.
I went to two or three different electrologists before discovering
E-2000, and did all right there. But E-2000 is really state of the
art. The kill rate is high, the costs are very reasonable and there's
very little discomfort. Because there is no real pain, I could
tolerate much longer sessions, and found it a lot more convenient than
going in for frequent short sessions. The people there are incredibly
nice, too.
ab
LoreeTG
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>
>In article <6sejle$g8t$1...@slave2.aa.net>, LoreeTG <lo...@aa.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for helping me decide to use E2000!
>
>drive up and pay you a visit.
>
>This is =totally= cool!
Ok, dear... I'll send some email once I've got my date reserved...
amyrh...@my-dejanews.com
Miss Yvette Seifert Hirth, CCP, CDP
>
> beth...@aol.com (Bethann8) wrote:
> > I do admit this is a small sample
>
> A fictional sample, no doubt.
>
99% of the hair on my body is *gone*. Like *not there anymore*. I have
girlfriends that are way miffed that they have to shave and I don't.
Further, there was no - NO - pitting. I have post-op friends that have
faces which were ravaged by conventional electrolysis.
Caveat emptor. You pays your money, you takes your chances.
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inix...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Miss Yvette Seifert Hirth, CCP, CDP <yve...@dbtgroup.com> wrote in article
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> amyrh...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > beth...@aol.com (Bethann8) wrote:
> > > I do admit this is a small sample
> >
> > A fictional sample, no doubt.
> >
> It must be, because I went to E2000 for one year - six sessions - and
> 99% of the hair on my body is *gone*. Like *not there anymore*. I have
> girlfriends that are way miffed that they have to shave and I don't.
>
> Further, there was no - NO - pitting. I have post-op friends that have
> faces which were ravaged by conventional electrolysis.
>
My experience is similar. I had 8 sessions, including South Pole four
times, and have been completely clear (will, I do have 7 or 8 hairs which
I currently tweeze). My last session was six months ago and the first was
17 months earlier. It was well worth the money for the speed, convenience
and lack of pain. My cost of ownership analysis tells me it was a better
deal than conventional means, as well.
Sallyanne
inix...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
s...@sue.net wrote in article <6v0h9e$ain$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>......
> ...
> (Well, okay... I've seen *one* person with pitting -- Bren herself. I
> assume that that was left over either from before she started with
> Ruthann, or from earlier procedures that Ruthann used while working out
> the system that they use now. Either way, it doesn't reflect what
they're
> doing now. And I may simply be mistaking large pores for pitting.)
>
Bren has acted as test subject for new electrologysts who are in training.
Sallyanne
Nicole Hamilton
since Wednesday. As some of you may know, I've been something of an
electro queen up here in Boston. I did recently have to tally up all the
hours I've done locally for a financial disclosure in my divorce. I refuse
to tell you the number! It's just too embarrassing! Let's just say that
if I'd been flying a plane, I'd be instrument rated for the Space Shuttle
by now.
All the electrolysis I had ever had done before always left my skin raw,
sore, oozing, scabbing, peeling, dry, inflamed. And it hurt like crazy! A
couple months ago I was out in San Francisco to see Dr. Ousterhout for a
price quote on a brand new head. Oh, my! Did he read me the riot act on
the scarring he saw I was getting from electro! "From now on, you're on a
plane to Dallas!"
That had me _very_ upset, for a whole lot of reasons, not the least of
which is that when you've spent a lot of time with someone, even if you do
find out later they were cratering your face, you form an attachment, sort
of like Patty Hearst, I guess. I honestly was sick to my stomach at the
thought of telling my electrologists what Dr. O had said! It really
undercut my confidence in my ability to make good decisions to know that
I'd screwed up and let someone scar me. I was upset as all hell at the
prospect that now that it had been pointed out (some orange peel dimpling),
I'd have to look at my disfigurement the rest of my life. And finally, I
was depressed at the lost time, especially thinking of how booked up E2000
is, months and months in advance. No kidding, all of this really bummed me
out for several days.
Things have not turned out so bad, though Dr. O's admonition was a wake-up
call I did need. I did tell my electrologists I wasn't going to be using
them anymore, at least on my face. (But after E2000, I won't use my local
electrologists at all anywhere on my body ever again.) I started
microdermabrasion treatments (also called a "power peel") on the areas of
scarring. I've had three treatments out of the 10 suggested and the
results have been remarkable. Before heading out to E2000,
microdermabrasion had already nearly erased any visible marks except in one
little area under my mouth where you could still sort of tell if you looked
closely. It had also started erasing wrinkles and a few large pores and
other assorted reminders that I'm not 25 anymore.
Scheduling E2000 was difficult, but not, it turned out, for the reason you
think. I _was_ able to get onto their calendar easily enough by gently
pestering about every week or so to ask about new cancellations; the worst
part was that they really do not want you to have _any_ other electrolysis
on the area you want them to work on for a minimum of 3 months to allow a
complete growth cycle. (Actually, I went just over two before this
appointment.)
What I found in that two months was that I had FAR MORE beard than I
expected! My electrologists up here in Boston had kept me clear, but not
by killing all that much. They did it by treating me constantly. When
that stopped, I had a LOT, perhaps a good 30% of what started as a beard
from hell, coming back!
This week at E2000 was nothing short of incredible. Give me credit, I do
know what ordinary electrolysis is like, I can deal with the pain, been
there, done that, blah, blah, blah. Trust me, you do not want to waste
time with anything but E2000.
What can I say? There's no convert like a new convert. So, hey, I got
religion! But I think I saw a miracle.
They started Wednesday with two electrologists working on me and, in that
first day, totally cleared my upper lip and most of my cheeks and
sideburns. The next day, they almost finished my entire beard and did
finish it the next morning. Over the remaining day and half, we did South
Pole and assorted body parts.
When I say they cleared an area - this is the incredible part - I mean they
got _everything_! There's not a hair left on my face that's not supposed
to be there. They got all the ingrowns that had been bugging me for months
as bumps too deep in my skin for me or my local electrologists to get.
They got EVERYTHING! I have never, ever been this clear. But it goes
beyond that. My skin is as smooth and soft as my 8-year-old son's. There
are almost no marks anywhere. You can't see where the hairs were. My face
feels quite supple, not at all dry. There's some residual tingling from
the anesthetics but no pain, no scabbing, no flaking, no rawness
whatsoever, only a little general redness. It looks like I never had a
beard. I did swell to enormous proportions but even that has been quickly
dissipating.
I am blown away.
The whole thing was quite painless. The only part that hurt at all were
the Lidocaine injections Bren would do every few hours wherever they were
working. And with the number of injections Bren's done over the years,
she's definitely gotten pretty good so even that's not at all bad. (Bren
claims to buy Lidocaine by the gallon and I do not doubt her for a moment!
They do go through a LOT of it on you over the course of a visit.) Mostly,
I'd just put my headphones on with a good CD and go to sleep 'till Bren
came in to wake me up for another numbing. Or sometimes, I'd just watch TV
(they have TVs and VCRs in every room and an enormous tape library) while
they worked.
As I said, scheduling turned out not to be so much of a problem as I'd
expected. If you call E2000 on any random day, you learn that they're
booked up somewhere into the next century. But, and I know this will be a
shock, it turns out some TS are flakes. I know, hard to believe, isn't it?
Well, it's true, and others just run into problems through no fault of
their own, scraping up the money or getting away for several days at a
stretch, etc. So E2000 does get cancellations. You just have to be able
to make up your mind right then and there, on the spot, when one opens up
whether you can do it.
This visit was a cancellation. It was a block of time that opened up on 13
days' notice. I couldn't take the first day as that was the difference
between a $1300 and a $205 plane ticket but I grabbed the rest. The rest
of my appointments are also mostly other people's leftovers and
cancellations but out of that, we found quite enough time in Dec, Jan, Feb,
Mar and Apr. (I skip Nov as I'll have just had facial surgery and can't be
worked on that soon.)
On one level, I say I should have done this a year ago. But a year ago, I
was trying to salvage my marriage and thought it would cause more problems
if I disappeared for a week at a time than if I just got the work done an
hour or two at a time while the kids were in school and my wife was at
work. Mostly, I just didn't believe E2000 could be that different. (It
is!) But I try to live without dwelling on regret. I made the best
decisions I could at the time.
But I wouldn't ever do or recommend anything but E2000 from now on.
--
Nicki Hamilton
http://www.hamiltonlabs.com/biography.htm
Karen Elizabeth A.
> This week at E2000 was nothing short of incredible. Give me credit, I do
> know what ordinary electrolysis is like, I can deal with the pain, been
> there, done that, blah, blah, blah. Trust me, you do not want to waste
> time with anything but E2000.
>
> What can I say? There's no convert like a new convert. So, hey, I got
> religion! But I think I saw a miracle.
What did Sallyanne and I tell you in 3D last December.... ;-)
I just HAD to say "told you so!" <g>
See you next Wednesday.
-Karen A
Cricket Holman
just had to say, 3 visits to E2000 and i can go a week without shaving...it's
wonderful. and, even with the plane and hotel, it is much less expensive than
traditional electrology
Cricket
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