Prostate massage
Tobie
I've heard that prostate massage can drive a man wild with pleasure.
So those who know, please teach me.
How?
Why?
What position?
Safety precautions?
Clues?
Thank you,
Tobie
jo
lubrication. Use a good lube, try to stay away from KY and other water-based
lubes (unless you're using a condem) they tend to break down quickly. Have
him (or tie him) on his back, go slowly, there are 2 sets of sphincter
muscles you have to get past. If you hurry the process you can really hurt
him (btdt, not fun for 2 days). If it's his first time start with just
touching around the area. As for massaging his prostate, crook your finger
up slightly, like your pointing at his belly button and rub. My Master
highly appreciates this as it's not something I'm really comfortable doing,
but do for him.
Just my two cents worth. Hopefully someone else can explain better.
Jo
"Tobie" <mizte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Tobie
>The main thing you need to remember is lubrication, lubrication,
>lubrication. Use a good lube, try to stay away from KY and other water-based
>lubes (unless you're using a condem) they tend to break down quickly.
Got it, thank you.
> Have
>him (or tie him) on his back, go slowly, there are 2 sets of sphincter
>muscles you have to get past.
Got that, I know about the two muscle sets, but where is your Sir
putting his legs while you do this? Knees bent, legs raised, or legs
spread and lowered?
> If you hurry the process you can really hurt
>him (btdt, not fun for 2 days). If it's his first time start with just
>touching around the area.
He's all good with the touching. He likes being touched there and
doesn't tense up or get twitchy about it.
> As for massaging his prostate, crook your finger
>up slightly, like your pointing at his belly button and rub.
Do you *feel* it? Do you know you're on the gland when you're rubbing
it or do you go by the sounds he makes to know you've hit the right
area?
> My Master
>highly appreciates this as it's not something I'm really comfortable doing,
>but do for him.
I appreciate you taking the time to explain it jo, thank you.
Tobie
The Dip in the Dip Corps
SSBB Diplomatic Corps
Portland Oregon
Markem
>The main thing you need to remember is lubrication, lubrication,
>lubrication. Use a good lube, try to stay away from KY and other water-based
>lubes (unless you're using a condem) they tend to break down quickly.
Olive oil works well as a lube and is Dr. Sarah (1) recommended.
But protate massage does not work with me tight ass that I am.
Markem
(1) Our family doctor
(sixoneeight) = 618
Tobie
<markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Olive oil works well as a lube and is Dr. Sarah (1) recommended.
>But protate massage does not work with me tight ass that I am.
Don't I just need to get one finger in there?
And will small fingers reach there? I mean *small* I can't open most
child proof containers if they use finger length as a way of
restriction :/
Tobie
Tanfj
>
> Do you *feel* it? Do you know you're on the gland when you're rubbing
> it or do you go by the sounds he makes to know you've hit the right
> area?
Both, when he is close to orgasm; it will get firm and hard.
When it isn't firm, pressing on it will make him feel like one has to
pee.
What I like is two fingers on either side in a V and close them together
II over it.
--
"What's the good of having mastery over cosmic balance and
knowing the secrets of fate if you can't blow something up?"
-"Reaper Man", Terry Pratchett
Tanfj
>
> And will small fingers reach there? I mean *small* I can't open most
> child proof containers if they use finger length as a way of
> restriction :/
One finger is enough, and I have a 3" finger and can reach mine
with no problems.
Tobie
>In Dread Ink, the Grave hand of Tobie Did Inscribe:
>>
>> Do you *feel* it? Do you know you're on the gland when you're rubbing
>> it or do you go by the sounds he makes to know you've hit the right
>> area?
>
>Both, when he is close to orgasm; it will get firm and hard.
>When it isn't firm, pressing on it will make him feel like one has to
>pee.
Excellent!
And since he hasn't done this before, I should be ready to sooth his
concern I'm assuming, and tell him he already went pee and can go pee
again as soon as we're done if he needs to
And shall there be cock handling during this? Will he orgasam without
it?
HA! I like that, shall there be cock handling during this.
>
>What I like is two fingers on either side in a V and close them together
>II over it.
Thank you very much!
Information assimilated!
Tobie
>One finger is enough, and I have a 3" finger and can reach mine
>with no problems.
We had our little mid day phone call and I told him I was checking
info on prostate massage and he gave a bit of a pause and then said
"Oh?" in that everso careful way that tries to refuse showing interest
one way or the other in the outcome.
I said yes and that, "if I do it right I will drive you *positively*
*WILD* with *desire*", I'm so subtle dontcha know...
He foundered in stutters for just a minute and I asked, "Are you going
to tell me no? Are you going to tell me that you don't want me to
drive you *positively* *WILD* with *desire*??"
He couldn't. His proper upbringing wanted him to say no but the little
devil in him said ohhh yeah let's eat this up. After a couple of
hesitant tries he finally said yes.
*beam*
and I'm thinking, ohh I have you now my little nodule of lust!
Sunnie
> The main thing you need to remember is lubrication, lubrication,
> lubrication. Use a good lube, try to stay away from KY and other water-based
> lubes (unless you're using a condem) they tend to break down quickly. Have
> him (or tie him) on his back, go slowly, there are 2 sets of sphincter
> muscles you have to get past. If you hurry the process you can really hurt
> him (btdt, not fun for 2 days). If it's his first time start with just
> touching around the area. As for massaging his prostate, crook your finger
> up slightly, like your pointing at his belly button and rub.
You know, people say lube, lube, lube, but for me I like just barely
enough. I don't like cleaning up a mess for no reason. Also for me it
doesn't matter what kind -- oil, water, lotion, creams, whatever. Its
just a wiggly little finger in a soft hole, LOL!!
Now using that to make him squirt?? I dunno. Someone tell me more.
L
Masterwoof
Tobie <mizte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:14:27 -0600, Tanfj wrote:
>
> >In Dread Ink, the Grave hand of Tobie Did Inscribe:
> >>
> >> Do you *feel* it? Do you know you're on the gland when you're rubbing
> >> it or do you go by the sounds he makes to know you've hit the right
> >> area?
> >
> >Both, when he is close to orgasm; it will get firm and hard.
> >When it isn't firm, pressing on it will make him feel like one has to
> >pee.
>
> Excellent!
> And since he hasn't done this before, I should be ready to sooth his
> concern I'm assuming, and tell him he already went pee and can go pee
> again as soon as we're done if he needs to
If he needs to pee, he should decide, and you can hold a urinal for him.
(His hands are tied, yes?)
> And shall there be cock handling during this? Will he orgasam without
> it?
You will have to discover this and report back.
> HA! I like that, shall there be cock handling during this.
> >
> >What I like is two fingers on either side in a V and close them together
> >II over it.
>
> Thank you very much!
> Information assimilated!
There are also some fun prostate massagers. Aneros is the "original".
The standard size is probably good for any man who hasn't experienced it
yet. It's fun to use while doing Kegel exercises. (Yes, men should do
them, too.)
> Tobie
> The Dip in the Dip Corps
> SSBB Diplomatic Corps
> Portland Oregon
I just don't want to read the phrase "Male G-Spot" because "G-Spot" was
invented to be a better name than "Female Prostate" and thus saying
"Male G-Spot" is like saying "Male Prostate" which is dumb. So there.
--
Masterwoof
http://wwww.timberwoof.com/masterwoof
Markem
wrote:
>Don't I just need to get one finger in there?
>
>And will small fingers reach there? I mean *small* I can't open most
>child proof containers if they use finger length as a way of
>restriction :/
For me it is that I am just not comfortable with anal penetration. I
have tried with women and men. Me I prefer to do the penetrating. I
have been in cuckloding situations where the wife wanted me to fuck
her wimpy husband's ass while she was getting the daylights pound
front and back face to face with her hubby. That was fun she was very
vocal too.
Markem
(sixoneeight) = 618
Tanfj
>
> it?
I know *I* can't orgasm from just prostate massage. I can get damn close
and have massively intense pleasure but I just can't push myself over the
edge from just prostate massage.
<evil grin> You wouldn't tease him with this would ya?
> HA! I like that, shall there be cock handling during this.
Added bonus, He will probably leak large amounts of pre-cum.
Hell the pre-cum will leak even if he isn't erect.
M. Shirley Chong
> I've heard that prostate massage can drive a man wild with pleasure.
> So those who know, please teach me.
I'm not an expert by any means but I have done this successfully...
*Very* successfully! <reminiscent grin>
> How?
I file the fingernail on that finger very short and bevel it so that
there is absolutely no little "ledge" that sticks out. I have rather
long fingernails, though, so you may be able to skip this step.
I also like to use a glove just in case the fingernail isn't filed
perfectly (yes, I am paranoid about causing unintended pain).
I've used several lubricants and they all seemed to work just fine.
I don't put a whole lot on my finger at first, I keep the container
there and add more as I feel it is needed.
For the actual penetration, what works best with some men is gentle
but steady pressure inwards. Other men do better with intermittantly
applying pressure and releasing it by withdrawing. I think you just
have to experiment and find out what works with the individual involved.
I like to do it while sucking my partner's cock because it gives me
another way to moderate the sensations for him. If he's tense,
concentrating more on his cock distracts him and makes it easier to
insert. And then once everything is in place, it's almost like
playing my partner like an instrument--a little here, a little
there, so that he never gets quite used to any of it.
I use one finger with my palm facing the front of his body. The
prostate feels like a ridged lump just beyond the pelvic bone.
Starts out a little softer, gets very hard just before he orgasms.
Some men like a lot of pressure and movement against the prostate,
other men prefer more of a feather touch brushing back and forth.
> Why?
Uh, because one partner told me that it fries out every nerve ending
in his body and pleasepleaseplease do it again?
> What position?
I like doing it on the bed, partner on his back with his legs open,
me lying at almost a right angle to him with one or both knees
pulled up so that I can raise or lower myself easily.
> Safety precautions?
Make sure your fingers and fingernails are absolutely smooth because
the lining of the rectum is very fragile and can tear if poked by
something sharp.
Be careful about the intensity of the massage at first because it
can feel so good that the man may not be aware that it has actually
gotten too intense until he discovers he's sore afterwards. Stick to
very light touch the first few times until both of you have had a
chance to find out how it is afterwards. If he feels fine the next
day, then you can try a little more pressure the next time.
> Clues?
It's supposed to be good for prostate health, so naturally it is
only concern for his longterm health that leads you to want to do it
frequently. <LOLOLOL>
Shirley
Tobie
>I know *I* can't orgasm from just prostate massage. I can get damn close
>and have massively intense pleasure but I just can't push myself over the
>edge from just prostate massage.
Ohh Ohhhh how delightful. YUM!
>
><evil grin> You wouldn't tease him with this would ya?
Who me?
*checks nose length after feeling an odd tingle*
You betcha, a LOT, all over and then some more.
>Added bonus, He will probably leak large amounts of pre-cum.
>Hell the pre-cum will leak even if he isn't erect.
Dessert before dinner, how decadent. I like that.
*grin*
Tobie
<maste...@inNofernoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>If he needs to pee, he should decide, and you can hold a urinal for him.
>(His hands are tied, yes?)
Yup, he's gonna be tied up for this one.
>You will have to discover this and report back.
Scene report! YAY. I do enjoy reliving the monents with writing those.
>There are also some fun prostate massagers. Aneros is the "original".
>The standard size is probably good for any man who hasn't experienced it
>yet. It's fun to use while doing Kegel exercises. (Yes, men should do
>them, too.)
I didn't know men should do those. Why do they?
>I just don't want to read the phrase "Male G-Spot" because "G-Spot" was
>invented to be a better name than "Female Prostate" and thus saying
>"Male G-Spot" is like saying "Male Prostate" which is dumb. So there.
That works for me.
Tobie
Tobie
<eit...@netins.net> wrote:
>I'm not an expert by any means but I have done this successfully...
>*Very* successfully! <reminiscent grin>
More good stuff!
>>I file the fingernail on that finger very short and bevel it so that
>there is absolutely no little "ledge" that sticks out. I have rather
>long fingernails, though, so you may be able to skip this step.
Well shoot. I have very long nails and I was told that packing cotton
under the nail and then taping it then gloving it should do. But, I
don't want to risk his health in any way.
>
>I also like to use a glove just in case the fingernail isn't filed
>perfectly (yes, I am paranoid about causing unintended pain).
Me too.
>
>I've used several lubricants and they all seemed to work just fine.
>I don't put a whole lot on my finger at first, I keep the container
>there and add more as I feel it is needed.
Got it.
>
>For the actual penetration, what works best with some men is gentle
>but steady pressure inwards. Other men do better with intermittantly
>applying pressure and releasing it by withdrawing. I think you just
>have to experiment and find out what works with the individual involved.
Thank you.
>
>I like to do it while sucking my partner's cock because it gives me
>another way to moderate the sensations for him. If he's tense,
>concentrating more on his cock distracts him and makes it easier to
>insert. And then once everything is in place, it's almost like
>playing my partner like an instrument--a little here, a little
>there, so that he never gets quite used to any of it.
Hrmmm..I may not tie him for the first time then. Or tie him spread
eagle.
>
>I use one finger with my palm facing the front of his body. The
>prostate feels like a ridged lump just beyond the pelvic bone.
>Starts out a little softer, gets very hard just before he orgasms.
Thank you.
>
>Some men like a lot of pressure and movement against the prostate,
>other men prefer more of a feather touch brushing back and forth.
Ahhhh! That's a great piece of information, thank you. I'll do it that
way, start easy and build a bit over the next few times and see how it
goes.
>Uh, because one partner told me that it fries out every nerve ending
>in his body and pleasepleaseplease do it again?
That is exactly what I want to do to him!
>I like doing it on the bed, partner on his back with his legs open,
>me lying at almost a right angle to him with one or both knees
>pulled up so that I can raise or lower myself easily.
Great, thank you.
>
>> Safety precautions?
>
>Make sure your fingers and fingernails are absolutely smooth because
>the lining of the rectum is very fragile and can tear if poked by
>something sharp.
Yes. I'll be very carefull, I don't want to harm him.
>
>Be careful about the intensity of the massage at first because it
>can feel so good that the man may not be aware that it has actually
>gotten too intense until he discovers he's sore afterwards. Stick to
>very light touch the first few times until both of you have had a
>chance to find out how it is afterwards. If he feels fine the next
>day, then you can try a little more pressure the next time.
*nods* Ok, that's filed away now too. Thank you.
>It's supposed to be good for prostate health, so naturally it is
>only concern for his longterm health that leads you to want to do it
>frequently. <LOLOLOL>
Ohhhh yes! Sweetie, bend it over hon, now remember, this is good for
you.
Masterwoof
Tobie <mizte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:14:43 -0800, Masterwoof
> <maste...@inNofernoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
> >If he needs to pee, he should decide, and you can hold a urinal for him.
> >(His hands are tied, yes?)
>
> Yup, he's gonna be tied up for this one.
That should be fun...
> >You will have to discover this and report back.
>
> Scene report! YAY. I do enjoy reliving the monents with writing those.
>
> >There are also some fun prostate massagers. Aneros is the "original".
> >The standard size is probably good for any man who hasn't experienced it
> >yet. It's fun to use while doing Kegel exercises. (Yes, men should do
> >them, too.)
>
> I didn't know men should do those. Why do they?
Strengthen the anal sphincter and the prostate. Helps reduce
incontinence problems in old age.
> >I just don't want to read the phrase "Male G-Spot" because "G-Spot" was
> >invented to be a better name than "Female Prostate" and thus saying
> >"Male G-Spot" is like saying "Male Prostate" which is dumb. So there.
>
> That works for me.
>
> Tobie
--
Masterwoof
http://wwww.timberwoof.com/masterwoof
jo
Like I said, I hoped someone else would be able to explain better.
Shirley, you said everything I couldn't. Thank you.
Jo
trying to be more vocal, less lurker.
"M. Shirley Chong" <eit...@netins.net> wrote in message
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Tanfj
><maste...@inNofernoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>There are also some fun prostate massagers. Aneros is the "original".
>>The standard size is probably good for any man who hasn't experienced it
>>yet. It's fun to use while doing Kegel exercises. (Yes, men should do
>>them, too.)
>
> I didn't know men should do those. Why do they?
It makes the man come harder, and shoot farther/allows for more powerful
orgasms; not to mention the firmer erections or the fact that
contracting the PC muscle makes the erection swell more.
Think a milder cock ring under control by the persons mind and you
are close.
In general, it just makes things more intense. <Very Big Grin>
Tobie
>Jo
>trying to be more vocal, less lurker.
And I for one, am very glad you made that choice!
Tobie
M. Shirley Chong
>>>I file the fingernail on that finger very short and bevel it so that
>>
>>there is absolutely no little "ledge" that sticks out. I have rather
>>long fingernails, though, so you may be able to skip this step.
Tobie wrote:
> Well shoot. I have very long nails and I was told that packing cotton
> under the nail and then taping it then gloving it should do. But, I
> don't want to risk his health in any way.
I'd heard the stuffing-and-taping thing as well, I was just too
nervous to try it. I wanted my nerve endings to be on the spot, as
it were, rather than a distance away. I've got rather strong nails
and tend to use them as micro tools, though, so they don't seem all
that sensitive to me. Yours may well be different.
I wrote:
>>I like to do it while sucking my partner's cock because it gives me
>>another way to moderate the sensations for him. If he's tense,
>>concentrating more on his cock distracts him and makes it easier to
>>insert. And then once everything is in place, it's almost like
>>playing my partner like an instrument--a little here, a little
>>there, so that he never gets quite used to any of it.
Tobie wrote:
> Hrmmm..I may not tie him for the first time then. Or tie him spread
> eagle.
I think it's a matter of what works. Leaving some play in the legs
might be a good idea because sometimes shifting just a bit as
pressure is applied seems to help.
I wrote:
>>Uh, because one partner told me that it fries out every nerve ending
>>in his body and pleasepleaseplease do it again?
Tobie wrote:
> That is exactly what I want to do to him!
<LOL> One of my partners literally had white-outs. It's also fun to
assign some sort of minor mentation task, like counting backwards by
sixes from one hundred, to see the instant and exact activities that
fry the brain. Sometimes I like to play with taking him out of his
body/mind and then pushing him back, then out again... It's all good.
I wrote:
>>It's supposed to be good for prostate health, so naturally it is
>>only concern for his longterm health that leads you to want to do it
>>frequently. <LOLOLOL>
Tobie wrote:
> Ohhhh yes! Sweetie, bend it over hon, now remember, this is good for
> you.
Yes, one must take proper care of one's toys. <G>
Tangential note: woman fucking man with a strap-on has been dubbed
pegging by Dan Savage's readers.
Shirley
M. Shirley Chong
> Like I said, I hoped someone else would be able to explain better.
>
> Shirley, you said everything I couldn't. Thank you.
I hope I didn't step on your toes, I didn't mean it that way. I just
started remembering and typing and it just sort of came out.
Shirley
Stephanie Moore-Fuller
If your hands are that small, it makes actual fisting much easier. That's more
advanced than using just one finger, but that just means you'll have to
practice more, oh no!
stephanie
--
Stephanie Moore-Fuller smoo...@blackrose.org Mountain View, CA, USA
"Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your
temper or your self-confidence."
-- Robert Frost, poet
David Weinshenker
>
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:14:27 -0600, Tanfj wrote:
>
> >In Dread Ink, the Grave hand of Tobie Did Inscribe:
> >>
> >> Do you *feel* it? Do you know you're on the gland when you're rubbing
> >> it or do you go by the sounds he makes to know you've hit the right
> >> area?
> >
> >Both, when he is close to orgasm; it will get firm and hard.
> >When it isn't firm, pressing on it will make him feel like one has to
> >pee.
>
> Excellent!
> And since he hasn't done this before, I should be ready to sooth his
> concern I'm assuming, and tell him he already went pee and can go pee
> again as soon as we're done if he needs to
>
> And shall there be cock handling during this? Will he orgasam without
> it?
That's variable... some folks can orgasm just from "back door" stimulation
(not just the prostate itself, but the whole musculature of the oriifce can
be massaged... try sliding one finger inside and squeezing gently around the
rim with another finger, for example)... for me, it doesn't make me come
directly, but it sure synergises with other input (cock handling etc.)...
-dave w
Marco
>>>them, too.)
>>
>> I didn't know men should do those. Why do they?
>
> It makes the man come harder, and shoot farther/allows for more powerful
> orgasms; not to mention the firmer erections or the fact that
> contracting the PC muscle makes the erection swell more.
>
> Think a milder cock ring under control by the persons mind and you
> are close.
>
> In general, it just makes things more intense. <Very Big Grin>
They're also the secret to MMO - male multiple orgasms. By clamping down
hard just at the onset of an orgasm, you (a male) can theoretically
experience the orgasm without ejaculation, loss of erection, or any recovery
time. In my experience, the technique isn't quite that miraculous, but I
haven't worked at it very hard, either. I definitely have been able to
suppress the full-on, "my entire world exists in the head of my dick",
"nothing else matters"(1), gushing orgasm while still experiencing a strong
rush of pleasure, and been able to repeat this pretty much as long as I want
to until I feel like going for the whole enchilada as described before.
Having strong Kegel muscles (or the male equivalent - the pelvic floor
muscles) makes this technique much more reliable and controllable. When I
first tried this without any "work-outs" at all, I could tell that there was
some substance to the technique, but it barely worked. After a few months
of mostly daily exercise (sporadic at first, but a regular regimen of five
"sets" a day for all but the first couple of weeks), my internal strength
and control was such that I could exert Sting-like control and suppress or
control my orgasm for as long as I wanted.
~~
Marco
(1) A survey I read somewhere (Men's Health?) reported that, among other
things, well over three quarters of adult men (something like
eighty-some-odd percent as I recall) could readily envision themselves
risking a life-threatening situation to have or while having sex. It
probably sounds stupid, but I definitely fall in that majority...
Lusus Naturae
>That's variable... some folks can orgasm just from "back door" stimulation
>(not just the prostate itself, but the whole musculature of the oriifce can
>be massaged... try sliding one finger inside and squeezing gently around the
>rim with another finger, for example)... for me, it doesn't make me come
>directly, but it sure synergises with other input (cock handling etc.)...
Positioning can matter, too. If I'm mentally aroused while face down,
with back arched, and no support for the pelvis, I'll come from any
pressure or pull to the musculature anywhere from my lower belly to my
coccyx -- and do so in a surprisingly short time. This includes the
merest twiddling of a butt plug.
--
Lusus Naturae
Troia
>...
> (1) A survey I read somewhere (Men's Health?) reported that, among other
> things, well over three quarters of adult men (something like
> eighty-some-odd percent as I recall) could readily envision themselves
> risking a life-threatening situation to have or while having sex. It
> probably sounds stupid, but I definitely fall in that majority...
>
>
And haven't women always known that and said so?
</sexist>
-- Troia
laughing
Philip_the_Foole
> On 2006-11-15, Tobie <mizte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:37:25 -0600, Markem
>><markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Olive oil works well as a lube and is Dr. Sarah (1) recommended.
>>>But protate massage does not work with me tight ass that I am.
>>
>>Don't I just need to get one finger in there?
>>
>>And will small fingers reach there? I mean *small* I can't open most
>>child proof containers if they use finger length as a way of
>>restriction :/
>
>
> If your hands are that small, it makes actual fisting much easier. That's more
> advanced than using just one finger, but that just means you'll have to
> practice more, oh no!
>
> stephanie
One way to entertain a male fistee is to gently roll your knuckles
against his prostate.
When Fetish Diva Midori talks about fisting she often pretends to
examine her fingernails while holding her (small) hand in a "swan's
beak" gesture.
*moan*
Your Humble Jester,
Philip the Foole
Margaret Morecock (kneeling above me in her bathtub and shape-shifting
into many different gods and goddesses as she fist-fucks me, plays with
my cock and tortures my balls): "Is there any other way in which I can
serve you ...
*capricious, head tossing laugh as she tears an involuntary scream from
my throat with a combined hand thrust and ball squeeze*
... Master?"
- Ancient Kung Foole Proverb