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Rachel E.

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Jun 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/5/97
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Ia...@srama.demon.co.uk (Iain) wrote:

>News Posting: i...@io.com (Xiphias Gladius) wrote:

>>Hi, my name is Xiphias Gladius, or "Ian", to my friends.
>>
>>I started reading ASB in 1992, when I was a freshman at Brandeis, and
>>managed to keep reading it until well into 1995 before it got unbearable.
>>
>>I'm back, now.
>>
>>Some of you may remember me; most of you won't.

>*I* remember you Ian, you were the only one who noticed when I
>de-lurked on ASB....

*blink* Really?! Well, shoot, that stinks. Wonder where the heck
I was.... Well, in any case, it's wonderful to see you -here now-,
and to make up for being remiss when you first arrived on ASB, I
send you *big hugs* and a frantic *wave* a cheery "Hello! Welcome
to ASB!" And I set out the champagne and brownies.

:)

Cheers!
-Rachel

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Iain

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Jun 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/5/97
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News Posting: i...@io.com (Xiphias Gladius) wrote:

>Hi, my name is Xiphias Gladius, or "Ian", to my friends.
>
>I started reading ASB in 1992, when I was a freshman at Brandeis, and
>managed to keep reading it until well into 1995 before it got unbearable.
>
>I'm back, now.
>
>Some of you may remember me; most of you won't.

*I* remember you Ian, you were the only one who noticed when I
de-lurked on ASB....

Now I get to welcome you, Kewl.

Good to see you back!

Iain
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Iain Fielden<Ia...@srama.demon.co.uk>
A soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm proponent who is back from his holidays ;-)
Many thanks to all who supported the new group soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
RESULT For : 457 Against : 110. The Ayes have it!

Liz Day

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Jun 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/5/97
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>In article <ian.86...@pentagon.io.com>, i...@io.com (Xiphias Gladius) wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> I support silliness in scene, <snip>

Oh good at last. The last potential top I spoke to told me I was too silly
to be 'in the scene'. Is giggling allowed?

LD


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Velvet

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Jun 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/16/97
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In article <moorefam-160...@user-37kb79i.dialup.mindspring.com>,
moor...@mindspring.com (E. Dragoness) wrote:

> In article <5n53t5$7is$1...@news.iquest.net>, ld...@iquest.net (Liz Day) wrote:
> >
> > Oh good at last. The last potential top I spoke to told me I was too silly
> > to be 'in the scene'. Is giggling allowed?
> >
> > LD
>

> It always was for me though I could be serious as well. It just depends
> on the type of scene we might be doing at the time.
>
> One of my favorite memories is being flogged at a con-party while a
> beautiful red haired young lady was sitting in front of me holding my
> hands. We were talking a little while Freep was getting things ready.
> Then he started flogging me, warming up. I was still talking to this
> beautiful person but could no longer hear her replies because of the sound
> of the flogger hitting my back. I turned and looked up at Freep and said
> "Do you mind? I'm trying to have a conversation!". That took him by
> surprise and he laughed along with everyone else in the room at the time.
> It was funny! Of course, I paid for my impertinence, and we all had a
> great time! :)
>
> Alyssa, the Elegant Dragoness
> (delightfully owned by Fearless Freep)

This one hit a chord with me. I frequently giggle during an intense
scene. I've had new tops become annoyed at this and acuse me of being a
SAM. Over time, however, anyone who plays with me learns that this is
definitely not the case; giggling is never a sign of disrespect. Some
scenes can obviously be more light-hearted than others, and certainly it's
not unusual to display expressions of joy. But in my case giggling and
even laughing are most often reactions to intense sensations and
frequently occur very close to the point where I am reduced to cathartic
crying.

Velvet

Volt

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Jun 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/16/97
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In article <matyear-1606...@slip-113-44.ots.utexas.edu>,

Velvet <mat...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
>This one hit a chord with me. I frequently giggle during an intense
>scene. I've had new tops become annoyed at this and acuse me of being a
>SAM.

I must be a SAM. When bottoming three things happen if the
process is working for me.
1)I giggle terribly
2)As long as I can verbalise I'm silly.
3)When I can no longer verbalise, I try to anyway and end up telling
jokes in a language only I understand.

> Over time, however, anyone who plays with me learns that this is
>definitely not the case; giggling is never a sign of disrespect. Some

For me it has nothing to do with respect. It's the result of
pain. The serious responsible parts of my brain turn off, and
something else in there gets loose and, umm, *frolics*
If someone can get me there I respect that, but please wait till
I remember english to ask me for respect.

The whole SAM concept is just not part of my play paradigm.
You want me to be serious and have sir or mam be the first
and last things out of my mouth and remember protocol? That's
not my kink. I play happy and silly. I like bottoms who play
that way too, when I top.

Volt

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Sunshyn

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Jun 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/17/97
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Volt wrote:

> For me it has nothing to do with respect. It's the result of
> pain. The serious responsible parts of my brain turn off, and
> something else in there gets loose and, umm, *frolics*
> If someone can get me there I respect that, but please wait till
> I remember english to ask me for respect.

Saetyr doesn't do it as a result of pain. He will start laughing
suddenly sometimes when he's nervous about a scene we're just starting.

At times, when he knows he's expected to be on his best behavior when we
get to a party, he starts telling *really* bad jokes that only make
sense to him. Then he'll start laughing loudly. I've come to the
conclusion that we're best off not driving to parties with friends that
we'd like to keep as such. ;-)

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Kingfish

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Jun 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/17/97
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mat...@mail.utexas.edu (Velvet) wrote:

>This one hit a chord with me. I frequently giggle during an intense
>scene. I've had new tops become annoyed at this and acuse me of being a

>SAM. Over time, however, anyone who plays with me learns that this is


>definitely not the case; giggling is never a sign of disrespect. Some

>scenes can obviously be more light-hearted than others, and certainly it's
>not unusual to display expressions of joy. But in my case giggling and
>even laughing are most often reactions to intense sensations and
>frequently occur very close to the point where I am reduced to cathartic
>crying.

Laughter of the humorous kind doesn't have to take away a scene's
power, either. I decided to light up a cigar during a play session
once, after having watched _Scarface_. My playpartner looked up at me
from her kneeling position and cracked up. I started doing
impressions of Bill Cosby, Al Pacino, Groucho Marx, The Penguin, etc.,
which made her laugh harder. I thought it was going to stop the
scene, but instead it added an air of demented perversity to it.

Take care,

Jon


Velvet

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Jun 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/17/97
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In article <5o636d$qj8$1...@news3.voicenet.com>, King...@voicenet.com
(Kingfish) wrote:

> Laughter of the humorous kind doesn't have to take away a scene's
> power, either. I decided to light up a cigar during a play session
> once, after having watched _Scarface_. My playpartner looked up at me
> from her kneeling position and cracked up. I started doing
> impressions of Bill Cosby, Al Pacino, Groucho Marx, The Penguin, etc.,
> which made her laugh harder. I thought it was going to stop the
> scene, but instead it added an air of demented perversity to it.
>
> Take care,
>
> Jon

Certainly made me smile broadly just hearing about it. To be sure, scenes
don't have to be serious as grim death to be satisfying! Thanks for the
positive feedback.

Velvet

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Property of Athos

"the velvet sheathing the steel demurely . . ."

Volt

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Jun 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/17/97
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In article <5o636d$qj8$1...@news3.voicenet.com>,
Kingfish <King...@voicenet.com> wrote:

> My playpartner looked up at me
>from her kneeling position and cracked up. I started doing
>impressions of Bill Cosby, Al Pacino, Groucho Marx, The Penguin, etc.,
>which made her laugh harder. I thought it was going to stop the
>scene, but instead it added an air of demented perversity to it.

A little Groucho will improve just about anything.
But now I have Harpo with his toybag in my head.
Chico:Handa me da flogger.
harpo produces a flag and starts waving it
Chico:no, thatsa the flagger, get me a flogger
harpo prooffers a frog
Chico:No, not the frogger the flogger
harpo looks confused then pulles out a humidifier
Chico:No tahsa the fogger I needa the flogger
harpo smiles and produces the requested item
Chico:Thatsa more like it, hey!Where did my sub go?
harpo pulls out a sandwhich
Chico:Shut upa, you.

Velvet

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Jun 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/18/97
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In article <87d8pkc...@hedonism.demon.co.uk>, Paul Crowley
<pa...@hedonism.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> mat...@mail.utexas.edu (Velvet) writes:
> > This one hit a chord with me. I frequently giggle during an intense
> > scene.
>

> I recently beat a guy who warned me in advance that his response to
> pain tended to be maniacal laughter. Since I'm not the world's
> greatest comedian, I found the peals of laughter curiously
> satisfying. Certainly, it sounded like a response to pain rather than
> a denial of it.


Heh heh. I like your response. And I think you mentioned an important
thing--the fact that your play partner *told* you he was apt to react to
pain with laughter.

I've read contributions to this thread from folks who don't understand why
anyone would be offended at laughter--and I tend to agree with the
sentiment-- but the fact remains that some tops do. Or at least some do
*if* they interpret it as an attempt to mock them or trivialize a scene
that is serious to them. I have learned, like your friend, to alert a new
partner to the likelihood of and the explanation for laughter happening
*before* the scene starts in order to avoid any hard feelings. (Bear in
mind that I'm talking about laughter as a reaction to pain here and NOT of
the humorous laughter that occurs when a scene is being lighthearted.)

Marina Muilwijk

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Jun 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/18/97
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On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:35:33 -0400, moor...@mindspring.com (E.
Dragoness) wrote:

>In article <5n53t5$7is$1...@news.iquest.net>, ld...@iquest.net (Liz Day) wrote:
>>
>> Oh good at last. The last potential top I spoke to told me I was too silly
>> to be 'in the scene'. Is giggling allowed?
>>
>> LD
>
>It always was for me though I could be serious as well. It just depends
>on the type of scene we might be doing at the time.

My first ever scene was an occasion for much giggling.
My top had decided that it would be a good introduction for me to be
nicely tied to the bed. She was trying to make a pretty pattern with
the rope, but things didn't quite work out as she had planned. She
kept muttering things like "oh, shit, no, that should go there, not
there". I couldn't help but giggle. That made her giggle, too, which
didn't help. In the end she did make a nice pattern, though, and
punished me for giggling by taking pictures of the result.

A few days later she had us both in stitches when she put a brightly
coloured condom on our newly bought dildo. It's all very well when
your top threatens to fuck your brains out, but when she tries to do
it with a shocking pink dildo, it's very hard to be afraid.


Marina

(that's funny; my spell checker didn't know the word "fuck"; I put an
end to that ignorance)

Philip the Foole

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Jun 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/18/97
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Volt:

> Chico:Handa me da flogger.
> harpo produces a flag and starts waving it
> Chico:no, thatsa the flagger, get me a flogger
> harpo prooffers a frog
> Chico:No, not the frogger the flogger
> harpo looks confused then pulles out a humidifier
> Chico:No tahsa the fogger I needa the flogger
> harpo smiles and produces the requested item
> Chico:Thatsa more like it, hey! Where did my sub go?

> harpo pulls out a sandwhich
> Chico:Shut upa, you.

Foole: ROFL! That's great, Volt! That skit deserves a place in the
roster at every BDSM event. As Groucho might have said: "Never tie up a
submissive named Tosca while you're in Alabama, because in Alabama,
Toscaloosa."

Your Humble Jester,

Philip the Foole

Nightqueen

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Jun 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/21/97
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I've never seen my beloved Man Monday giggle except when well flogged,
bless him. If I hear him beginning to chuckle to himself, I *know* I'm
doing things right. It seems to require a LOT of pain before he really
relaxes. Oh, but he is radiant later on.

I was a little mystified at first, but now I love and welcome his helpless
giggles!

On the other hand, Man Friday never giggles at all in scene, only afterwards.

Nightqueen

susannah

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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In article <5oke90$5...@harvee.billerica.ma.us>,
Fnord Prefect Fnord (the little blue guy) <f...@harvee.billerica.ma.us> wrote:
>
>markus (kem...@pixelpark.com) wrote:
>
>: AAAAARGH! I can see it in vivid black & white: "The Marx Brothers at the
>: Party", fucking up a whole fetish party crowd, fooling around in the
>: dungeon where Mistress Margaret Dumont tries to get in control again.
>: Just imagine Groucho watching a scene and of course commenting it ...
>
>Would Margaret Dumont be wearing black leather?

Oooh. With tickling-feathers tucked firmly into her hair .. and using those
opera-length pearls as a flogger. *swoon*

susannah (but where is Zeppo in all this?)

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Volt

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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In article <5ol8h6$msl$1...@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu>,
susannah <zan...@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:


>susannah (but where is Zeppo in all this?)


With all the fun that Groucho, Chico, and of course
Harpo are having it seems a shame that Zeppo is stuck
playing the straight man yet again.

Volt

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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In article <33b1129c...@news.earthlink.net>,
Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.org> wrote:
>
>No, Margaret Dumont would have to be a Sub, or at best a Domme
>wannabe. She could never control anything, let alone Groucho.

Being unable to control Groucho shouldn't disqualify
one from being a domme. If they had domme competitions,
Groucho would be an olympic-class challenge. You name
the domme, I'm still betting on Groucho.

Joe Zeff

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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tra...@netgate.net wrote:

>In article <5ol8h6$msl$1...@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu>,


> zan...@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (susannah) wrote:
>> Oooh. With tickling-feathers tucked firmly into her hair .. and using those
>> opera-length pearls as a flogger. *swoon*
>>

>> susannah (but where is Zeppo in all this?)
>

>I can imagine Zeppo running around silently, squeezing all the *censored*
>and otherwise getting great noises from the assembled.
>

That's Harpo, not Zeppo. Zeppo was mostly a straight man/romanitc
lead type.


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