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The Evil Twin

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May 10, 2003, 9:13:36 PM5/10/03
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It's been far too long since the girlfriend and I have been pervy with each
other. This is due to a number of things including local community stresses,
this continuing fucking cold/flu thing of mine, and her being busy with SLPA
stuff and work stuff. Damn it's inconvenient when real life gets in the way of
kink!

At any rate, today we have all to ourselves, so I'm going to try something
different. I'm currently in a huge toppy mood and in need of feeling large and
scary. So I'm going to top the girlfriend while I'm blindfolded. I have a
feeling I'm going to be very bossy <g>.

Crank up that ceiling fan camera, Philip! It'll be nice to review the footage
later.

Evil Twin

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Philip the Foole

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May 10, 2003, 11:53:06 PM5/10/03
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The Evil Twin wrote:
>
> It's been far too long since the girlfriend and I have been pervy with each
> other. This is due to a number of things including local community stresses,
> this continuing fucking cold/flu thing of mine, and her being busy with SLPA
> stuff and work stuff. Damn it's inconvenient when real life gets in the way of
> kink!
>
> At any rate, today we have all to ourselves, so I'm going to try something
> different. I'm currently in a huge toppy mood and in need of feeling large and
> scary. So I'm going to top the girlfriend while I'm blindfolded. I have a
> feeling I'm going to be very bossy <g>.
>
> Crank up that ceiling fan camera, Philip! It'll be nice to review the footage
> later.
>
> Evil Twin

Oooh! Use a samurai sword to cut a cucumber resting on her throat.
(Suggestion: If you haven't used a samurai sword before, it might be a
prudent idea to shop for your blindfold in a magic shop.)

Your Humble Jester,

Philip the Foole

Miranda Austin

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May 10, 2003, 11:22:30 PM5/10/03
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The Evil Twin wrote:

> At any rate, today we have all to ourselves, so I'm going to try something
> different. I'm currently in a huge toppy mood and in need of feeling large and
> scary. So I'm going to top the girlfriend while I'm blindfolded. I have a
> feeling I'm going to be very bossy <g>.

Ah, something to get me out of hiding.

I do hope you'll post about this scene. My top is blind, a fact that has
led to some fascinating scenes, and I'd be very interested to see what
similarities might emerge.

- Miranda

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Switchmaybe(BG)

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"The Evil Twin" <trek...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Now if only I could find a lady over here willing to try this on me. Kind of
would even up the odds a bit!

Sounds like fun to me!

Brian

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May 11, 2003, 2:44:29 PM5/11/03
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"Philip the Foole" <fo...@icehouse.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> Oooh! Use a samurai sword to cut a cucumber resting on her throat.
> (Suggestion: If you haven't used a samurai sword before, it might be a
> prudent idea to shop for your blindfold in a magic shop.)

As well at the sword, I should think.

dt king
Collared by Miss Heather

Philip the Foole

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May 11, 2003, 3:13:04 PM5/11/03
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Wuss!

Of course, some less-than-scrupulous sword "experts" demonstrate the
sharpness of their blade by slicing test veggies with a different (and
much sharper) part of the blade than the part they use for "prime time."

Conrad Hodson

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May 11, 2003, 8:46:26 PM5/11/03
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On Sat, 10 May 2003, Miranda Austin wrote:

> The Evil Twin wrote:
>
> > At any rate, today we have all to ourselves, so I'm going to try something
> > different. I'm currently in a huge toppy mood and in need of feeling large and
> > scary. So I'm going to top the girlfriend while I'm blindfolded. I have a
> > feeling I'm going to be very bossy <g>.
>
> Ah, something to get me out of hiding.
>
> I do hope you'll post about this scene. My top is blind, a fact that has
> led to some fascinating scenes, and I'd be very interested to see what
> similarities might emerge.
>

After bondage, etc. is set up and the stuff the top needs is laid out, the
top can put on the blindfold and turn out the lights. I have a blind
friend who's a very good top, and it's her favorite mindfuck. Why
not--she doesn't need them, but to the bottom it emphasizes the reality of
the situation far more deeply than any intellectual knowledge about the
presence of blindness or blindfolds.

Conrad Hodson

Evil Twin

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May 11, 2003, 11:47:21 PM5/11/03
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"Switchmaybe\(BG\)" <switc...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
> Now if only I could find a lady over here willing to try this on me. Kind of
> would even up the odds a bit!
>
> Sounds like fun to me!

It's hard work. I'll be doing it again though.

Evil Twin

The Evil Twin

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May 12, 2003, 12:39:33 AM5/12/03
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Miranda Austin <mir...@mirandaaustin.com> wrote in message
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> The Evil Twin wrote:
>
> > At any rate, today we have all to ourselves, so I'm going to try something
> > different. I'm currently in a huge toppy mood and in need of feeling large
and
> > scary. So I'm going to top the girlfriend while I'm blindfolded. I have a
> > feeling I'm going to be very bossy <g>.
>
> Ah, something to get me out of hiding.
>
> I do hope you'll post about this scene. My top is blind, a fact that has
> led to some fascinating scenes, and I'd be very interested to see what
> similarities might emerge.

Well I got to be large and scary, but not in the way I intended. Because we
hadn't done pervy stuff for a while, we needed to do some reconnecting first,
and this led to talking about subby triggers and things that make her drop, and
me bringing up suggestions to try. This wasn't the right time to try something
new. Not that we had to start from scratch, but more like how you go over an old
cutting to freshen it up.

The stuff we eventually did do with my eyes closed, not blindfolded, was a fair
bit of energy play. (Caution: Airy fairy stuff follows) Once she had dropped
sufficiently, I used my hands to feel knots and bumps that needed smoothing.
This is easier for me to do without seeing anyway, easier for concentration and
breathing and relaxing. It's easier to feel her responses while lying against
her and to hear changes in breathing and any noises she makes. I could hear her
clutching at bedsheets and fingernails dragging, and feel her muscles tense and
relax. I do a fair bit of visualising the energy I'm moving around, and that's
easier when my eyes are closed too.

Once her brain was pretty much on a string I could satisfy some of my sadistic
urges. There's some nice muscle groups running down the side of your ribs and
underneath your upper arm near your armpit. They no doubt have technical terms,
but I don't know them. But if you find the right spot, even gentle pressure with
fingertips can cause excruiating disabling pain. Even better when you have that
person wrapped up tight in a hug in your arms, and they squirm and moan and cry
and come while you do it. This was very gratifying for me. As the girlfriend was
tired and floaty, she resisted a lot less and didn't fight against the pain as
much, nor get cranky at it. So she went with it, breathed through it, let it
clear her head. All good stuff.

A very happy evening all round. Not to plan, but there's always another time, so
there's no point getting pouty about it. We had good chats that we needed to
have and did stuff that worked. I've left out the *hot lesbian sex* bit with the
corset, the stilletos, and the leopard print dress, but Philip no doubt is still
reviewing the footage, and reviewing, and reviewing...

Being blindfolded while topping is something I'm going to follow up on,
definitely. There's some intreguing aspects to it that I'd like to explore. Too
busy now though. After May! Argh! <g>

Evil Twin

Spyral Fox

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May 12, 2003, 12:49:55 AM5/12/03
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In article <3EBEBD82...@icehouse.net>, Philip the Foole
<fo...@icehouse.net> writes:

>Of course, some less-than-scrupulous sword "experts" demonstrate the
>sharpness of their blade by slicing test veggies with a different (and
>much sharper) part of the blade than the part they use for "prime time."

I've always preferred the bit where one drops a silk scarf on the edge.

BTW, I personally think the guys who try to test sharpness by
shaving the hair on their forearms are idiots. If a blade has a
razor's edge, the odds are much better that it will be notched
the first time you try to cut hide.

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Vorticity Kappa

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May 12, 2003, 1:41:07 AM5/12/03
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"Spyral Fox" <spyr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <3EBEBD82...@icehouse.net>, Philip the Foole
> <fo...@icehouse.net> writes:
>
> >Of course, some less-than-scrupulous sword "experts" demonstrate the
> >sharpness of their blade by slicing test veggies with a different
(and
> >much sharper) part of the blade than the part they use for "prime
time."
>
> I've always preferred the bit where one drops a silk scarf on the
edge.
>
> BTW, I personally think the guys who try to test sharpness by
> shaving the hair on their forearms are idiots. If a blade has a
> razor's edge, the odds are much better that it will be notched
> the first time you try to cut hide.
>

Would you expand on this? I don't know much at all about blades. Are you
saying that some blades are sharpened to the point where they will be
damaged by cutting arm hairs?

-- VK


StormWolf

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May 12, 2003, 9:28:59 AM5/12/03
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On 12 May 2003 04:49:55 GMT, spyr...@aol.com (Spyral Fox) wrote:

>BTW, I personally think the guys who try to test sharpness by
>shaving the hair on their forearms are idiots. If a blade has a
>razor's edge, the odds are much better that it will be notched
>the first time you try to cut hide.

*heh* Then there's laying the blade on your arm to demo how to test
the weight of the blade and slicing it open maneuver. One might think
the knife was a bit *too* sharp by the gasps from the audience.

moonlight - still wearing a scar from *that* little stunt.


Spyral Fox

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May 12, 2003, 9:27:36 AM5/12/03
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In article <b9nc6j$ku1pq$1...@ID-140481.news.dfncis.de>, "Vorticity Kappa"
<vorttic...@yahoo.com> writes:

>> BTW, I personally think the guys who try to test sharpness by
>> shaving the hair on their forearms are idiots. If a blade has a
>> razor's edge, the odds are much better that it will be notched
>> the first time you try to cut hide.
>>
>
>Would you expand on this? I don't know much at all about blades. Are you
>saying that some blades are sharpened to the point where they will be
>damaged by cutting arm hairs?
>

Razors, knives, and axes are all designed so that their edge
angles are different. Blades that are best for cutting hair usually
have an overly acute edge angle, which makes them great
for cutting hair, but easily damaged by other uses. So, if you
want a Forschner knife to cut hair, you're looking at a combination
of several factors -- the hardness of the steel, the angle of the
edge, and the sharpness. Since it's a relatively soft steel (420J,
the same as a typical good-quality stainless kitchen knife), the
sharpness isn't going to last very long; then, as you are slicing
through a rape, say, the initial edge will be dulled, so you end up
putting more pressure on it, and if the edge is ground to an acute
angle, the next day you're polishing out visible nicks where the
edge has given way. On the other hand, if you have an Al Mar
(lovely knives, Japanese tool steel), it may or may not shave as
well as a Forschner... but it isn't going to keep being a shaving
tool after the third deer you skin -- and if you stupidly try to
resharpen it to be like a razor instead of like a knife, the odds
are you'll damage it on the next deer.

Vorticity Kappa

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May 12, 2003, 6:16:28 PM5/12/03
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"Spyral Fox" <spyr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> soft steel (420J,
> the same as a typical good-quality stainless kitchen knife), the
> sharpness isn't going to last very long; then, as you are slicing
> through a rape, say,

Ummm. Do you sell blue barrels with your blades?

-- VK


Spyral Fox

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May 13, 2003, 1:27:35 AM5/13/03
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In article <b9p6h1$ls1rc$1...@ID-140481.news.dfncis.de>, "Vorticity Kappa"
<vorttic...@yahoo.com> writes:

>"Spyral Fox" <spyr...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20030512092736...@mb-m22.aol.com...
>
>> soft steel (420J,
>> the same as a typical good-quality stainless kitchen knife), the
>> sharpness isn't going to last very long; then, as you are slicing
>> through a rape, say,

Ahem. Slicing through a *rope*

>Ummm. Do you sell blue barrels with your blades?

I'm not sure what you mean. Some of the blades are blued.
Keep in mind that I haven't been behind the counter for more
than a few minutes in at least seven years, but I can ask
my sisters if you can explain what you mean.

Volcano

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May 13, 2003, 5:21:39 AM5/13/03
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In article <20030513012735...@mb-m10.aol.com>,
spyr...@aol.com says...

> In article <b9p6h1$ls1rc$1...@ID-140481.news.dfncis.de>, "Vorticity Kappa"
> <vorttic...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >"Spyral Fox" <spyr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:20030512092736...@mb-m22.aol.com...
> >
> >> then, as you are slicing
> >> through a rape, say,
>
> Ahem. Slicing through a *rope*
>
> >Ummm. Do you sell blue barrels with your blades?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean.

I'm guessing that was a John Robinson (aka "Kansas City Barrel Killer")
reference.


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StormWolf

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May 13, 2003, 10:57:07 AM5/13/03
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On Tue, 13 May 2003 04:21:39 -0500, Volcano
<Vol...@pinkpistolscentex.org> wrote:


>> >Ummm. Do you sell blue barrels with your blades?
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean.
>
>I'm guessing that was a John Robinson (aka "Kansas City Barrel Killer")
>reference.

Y'know....there are *much* better things to remember KC for. :)
Unfortuantely, he's being added to the list.

moonlight - living in the hometown of the James Gang.

merwench

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StormWolf <moonl...@kc99.rr.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 May 2003 04:21:39 -0500, Volcano
> <Vol...@pinkpistolscentex.org> wrote:
>
>
> >> >Ummm. Do you sell blue barrels with your blades?
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what you mean.
> >
> >I'm guessing that was a John Robinson (aka "Kansas City Barrel Killer")
> >reference.
>
> Y'know....there are *much* better things to remember KC for. :)
> Unfortuantely, he's being added to the list.
>

Ooh, Country Club Plaza!

I love KC. It's one of the very few, well, probably the *only,* place in
the midwest that I would ever consider moving. However, the rash of
tornadoes this past week reminded me, again, why I will never move back
anywhere near tornado alley. That was the main reason I moved out in the
first place. Got tired of running from tornadoes. Bleh. :P

My mom said they had some near KC. Any near you?

merwench


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Lynn Public

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May 13, 2003, 1:16:25 PM5/13/03
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Philip the Foole <fo...@icehouse.net> wrote in message news:<3EBEBD82...@icehouse.net>...

> Of course, some less-than-scrupulous sword "experts" demonstrate the
> sharpness of their blade by slicing test veggies with a different (and
> much sharper) part of the blade than the part they use for "prime time."

Jake has a commando knife with a tapered blade. It has never been
sharpened, or honed or whatever. He liked to slowly insert the blade
in me after preparing me by stabbing a couple of fingers in for a
while.

I was never cut during these insertions but it was always a trip.

Perhaps I've mention that several times with my permission, I was
stabbed under my breast by him. I think pricked is a better word.
Just enough to draw blood. That's was as scary as hell. I knew I was
going to be cut beforehand each time. And really trusted Jake . . .
(ah innocent youth!)

One time he pricked my cunt. Here I mean stabbed. (He pr***ed my
c**t more than once, even more than once in the same evening in the
traditional manner.) He went all the way through my inner labia, it
was like I was pierced and it bled several gallons before stopping.
Very, very scary, very red blood.

I have very thin inner labia that stretches from an almost
non-existant clitorial hood and disappear down by my exit from heaven.
It was the lob part that was cut, in a bit so I wouldn't rip.

One side took weeks to heal and got gooey and runny and we made a trip
to a friend that is a piercer a couple of times to have it looked at
and dressed.
I think every piercer within a hundred miles showed up to give an
opinion my genitalia. Jake swore I did it to myself while I was
trying to pierce his tongue.

Love,
Lynn
http://lynn.mylovething.com

Philip the Foole

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May 13, 2003, 4:23:01 PM5/13/03
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[Caution: Blood-phobic folks might want to skip this post.]

Lynn Public wrote:
> One time he pricked my cunt. Here I mean stabbed. (He pr***ed my
> c**t more than once, even more than once in the same evening in the
> traditional manner.) He went all the way through my inner labia, it
> was like I was pierced and it bled several gallons before stopping.
> Very, very scary, very red blood.

The wabbly bits seem to have an excellent blood supply. I was in a
particularly masochistic mood once and decided to pierce my cock from
several different angles with hypodermic needles. Guys with erectile
problems do this sort of thing regularly, so I didn't anticipate any
serious damage. I found that piercing the urethra by going through the
sides creates the appearance of urinating blood. It healed up quickly,
but I can't say I'd recommend the experience.

Your Humble Jester,

Philip the Foole

She said: "Reality check, Philip. I am naked and tied to a torture
table. We are both tripping. You are stabbing a sharp dagger into
my breast. Do you think this is safe?"
Questions like this are very annoying to a priest of Quetzelcoatl.
- Ancient Kung Foole Proverb

StormWolf

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May 13, 2003, 3:59:59 PM5/13/03
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On Tue, 13 May 2003 16:53:16 GMT, merw...@earthlink.net (merwench)
wrote:

>My mom said they had some near KC. Any near you?

Yep. I wanted to go storm chasing, but Tiger would have had a cow.
(Several if the storms had hit any of the ranches near here...)

I waited until the hail started to grab the cats and head downstairs.
The dog, for once, was smarter than them all and came down on his own.
We had three that hit Liberty, with some moderate damage and one that
passed within about a half mile of my house.

The hail was about softball sized and lasted for the better part of 30
minutes. Still...we got of much luckier than the southern end of the
metro area. Much luckier.

I just heard from my parents over the weekend that my hometown was
also smacked Saturday night by two to three large twisters.
Fortunately *THEY* were in Minnesota at the time. (BUt the house is
ok, too.)

All in all, it's gonna be an interesting weather season. :)

moonlight


Conrad Hodson

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May 13, 2003, 3:58:26 PM5/13/03
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On Tue, 13 May 2003, StormWolf wrote:
> >I'm guessing that was a John Robinson (aka "Kansas City Barrel Killer")
> >reference.
>
> Y'know....there are *much* better things to remember KC for. :)
> Unfortuantely, he's being added to the list.
>
> moonlight - living in the hometown of the James Gang.

Understand the problem--Margaret graduated out of Thurston High School,
which no one except locals had ever heard of until Kip Kinkle made it
famous.

Conrad Hodson

who hopes he never again hears "All surgeons to the emergency
room! All surgeons!" repeated endlessly on a PA system again

merwench

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May 13, 2003, 9:03:15 PM5/13/03
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StormWolf <moonl...@kc99.rr.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 May 2003 16:53:16 GMT, merw...@earthlink.net (merwench)
> wrote:
>
> >My mom said they had some near KC. Any near you?
>
> Yep. I wanted to go storm chasing, but Tiger would have had a cow.
> (Several if the storms had hit any of the ranches near here...)

My idjit ex-husband used to go out on the roof of his doorm (10 floors)
at UNL to watch the tornadoes. One went through about a block from him
once but never touched down. Can't believe he's survived to his 40s. :P

I once went tornado-chasing by accident. Coming home from Lincoln on my
18th b-day with the ex-h (then BF) and mom. 30-mile trip, more or less.
Found out there were something like 6 tornadoes between us and the
hometown. They were doing loop-de-loops all over the area. There were
also torrential rains, and my hometown sits on a hill surrounded on
three sides by rivers, so if we didn't get home soon, chances were we
wouldn't. So off we went with mom driving and the BF and I
tornado-spotting out of opposite sides of the car. We had to detour
about 4-5 times. Never did have to hit the ditch, though--we always
managed to avoid or outrun 'em (kids, don't try this at home).

Good thing we did, too. Next day the hometown was surrounded on three
sides by the worse flooding they'd had in decades. So bad they weren't
sure the dike would hold. The only side *not* flooded was the side we
wouldn't have been able to get to from where we were, anyway, because
we'd have had to cross one of the flooded rivers to get there.

>
> I waited until the hail started to grab the cats and head downstairs.
> The dog, for once, was smarter than them all and came down on his own.
> We had three that hit Liberty, with some moderate damage and one that
> passed within about a half mile of my house.

Ah, that's where you're at. Never spent any time up in that area. The
closest I got was Independence--spent one night there in my teens, on
the way to Branson. The hotel got invaded by a SWAT team, which was
exciting. As we were a couple of 16 y.o.'s sitting at the pool drinking
beer with a couple 17 y.o. boys, we were rather afraid at first that
they were coming for us. :)

Otherwise all my time was spent in the city, or out on the west
side--Olathe, Overland Park, Shawnee--where I have family.

>
> The hail was about softball sized and lasted for the better part of 30
> minutes.

Eeks. And your house is still there?! We had a hail storm two years ago
with golf-ball sized hail, lasted about 15 minutes, I had ~15k damage to
the house and car. I can't imagine what your storm would've done to this
place.

>Still...we got of much luckier than the southern end of the metro area.
>Much luckier.

You know, all we've heard about here is the little towns--Pierce City
and De Soto--and Oklahoma City. I still haven't heard anything in the
news here about KC. In fact I asked my mom if she was sure she didn't
mean OKC. She was rather insulted. :)

> I just heard from my parents over the weekend that my hometown was
> also smacked Saturday night by two to three large twisters. Fortunately
> *THEY* were in Minnesota at the time. (BUt the house is ok, too.)
>
> All in all, it's gonna be an interesting weather season. :)
>

Interesting--as in the old chinese curse, interesting. ::shudder:: Why I
moved out of the midwest! At least hurricanes give you advance notice so
you can get the hell out of town! :P

Good luck, stay safe, and thank gawd for basements. <G>

Spyral Fox

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May 14, 2003, 2:03:48 AM5/14/03
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In article <MPG.192a751c3...@news.gvtc.com>, Volcano
<Vol...@pinkpistolscentex.org> writes:

>> >Ummm. Do you sell blue barrels with your blades?
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean.
>
>I'm guessing that was a John Robinson (aka "Kansas City Barrel Killer")
>reference.

Oh. Were those barrels blue, then? I never saw pictures.

Chains and Freedom

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May 14, 2003, 3:13:50 AM5/14/03
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On Wed, 14 May 2003 01:03:15 +0000, merwench wrote:

>> I just heard from my parents over the weekend that my hometown was
>> also smacked Saturday night by two to three large twisters. Fortunately
>> *THEY* were in Minnesota at the time. (BUt the house is ok, too.)
>>
>> All in all, it's gonna be an interesting weather season. :)
>>
> Interesting--as in the old chinese curse, interesting. ::shudder:: Why I
> moved out of the midwest! At least hurricanes give you advance notice so
> you can get the hell out of town! :P

Oh how I would wish earthquakes did that, too... Fortunately, we don't have
them *every* year (actually, I have been far enough from all that I
experienced in the last ten years).

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Vorticity Kappa

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May 14, 2003, 9:04:10 AM5/14/03
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"Spyral Fox" <spyr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <b9p6h1$ls1rc$1...@ID-140481.news.dfncis.de>, "Vorticity
Kappa"
> <vorttic...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >"Spyral Fox" <spyr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:20030512092736...@mb-m22.aol.com...
> >
> >> soft steel (420J,
> >> the same as a typical good-quality stainless kitchen knife), the
> >> sharpness isn't going to last very long; then, as you are slicing
> >> through a rape, say,
>
> Ahem. Slicing through a *rope*
>
> >Ummm. Do you sell blue barrels with your blades?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean. Some of the blades are blued.
> Keep in mind that I haven't been behind the counter for more
> than a few minutes in at least seven years, but I can ask
> my sisters if you can explain what you mean.
>

Heaven forbid. Large 55 gallon blue barrels appear to be popular with a
certain class of people who are more likely than others to find
themselves slicing through a rape. It's a tidying up thing.

It was at the best not very good graveyard humor, and in this case you
should be grateful for your well-advertised impairment.

-- VK


Volcano

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May 14, 2003, 3:54:56 PM5/14/03
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In article <b9tesf$n273u$1...@ID-140481.news.dfncis.de>,
vorttic...@yahoo.com says...

>
> It was at the best not very good graveyard humor, and in this case you
> should be grateful for your well-advertised impairment.

Oh, good. I had considered saying something like that, but thought it
would be too mean. <G>

Binder

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May 16, 2003, 10:15:40 PM5/16/03
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Spyral Fox wrote:
> In article <3EBEBD82...@icehouse.net>, Philip the Foole
> <fo...@icehouse.net> writes:
>
>
>>Of course, some less-than-scrupulous sword "experts" demonstrate the
>>sharpness of their blade by slicing test veggies with a different (and
>>much sharper) part of the blade than the part they use for "prime time."
>
>
> I've always preferred the bit where one drops a silk scarf on the edge.
>
> BTW, I personally think the guys who try to test sharpness by
> shaving the hair on their forearms are idiots. If a blade has a
> razor's edge, the odds are much better that it will be notched
> the first time you try to cut hide.

<much shuffling of foot>

Urm... I'm one of those. IMO&E, it's less destructive to the edge
than slicing paper, and unless I'm wearing a loupe, (my aged eyes
combined with Gramps' "if you can see it, it isn't sharp" test)
it's the best test I know of. Is there something better?

Bear in mind I use my knives for one of two purposes: cutting
leather or more typical 'jacknife' applications.

On swords, there's an interestinf program on PBS these days,
called something like Combat but not... one of the swords
demonstrated as a kinght's blade was very rectangular in cross
section, swung from either end, and only sharp at the tip. Makes
sense for a thrusting weapon that can also be used as a cudgel
when reversed.

But then, everything I know about swordplay I learned answering
my brother's phone as his name and that of a local fencing master
just happen to be identical.

Binder
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Spyral Fox

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May 17, 2003, 1:47:11 AM5/17/03
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In article <gXgxa.820$LV2.87...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, Binder
<smaxb...@yahoo.com> writes:

>Urm... I'm one of those. IMO&E, it's less destructive to the edge
>than slicing paper, and unless I'm wearing a loupe, (my aged eyes
>combined with Gramps' "if you can see it, it isn't sharp" test)
>it's the best test I know of. Is there something better?

Personally, I prefer carrots. If you can slice through that like
you're wielding a warm knife in warm butter, it's a good sign.
Or, there's the thumbnail test -- you hold the blade at about
30 degrees off vertical and GENTLY pull it over the nail. And,
of course, there's always paintbrush sharpening.

The "razor edge" is much less than 20 degrees, so it's thinner
than that of a knife -- a good knife angle is around 20 - 25
degrees. FWIW, an axe is closer to 45. If you look at the
microbevel -- the very tip, sometimes called a Moran edge --
this can be even more extreme with some brands, some razors
are edge ground at 5 or fewer degrees, for example, on an
overall edge of about 12 - 15 degrees. Personally, I think it's
better to skip the microbevel and just grind the whole edge
correctly.

Anyhow, about that razor edge: sure, it's sharp -- but it's
also so thin it easily is damaged. That's one reason IMO that
razors are disposable these days -- easier to toss than to keep
stropping and resharpening like an old straight razor.

>Bear in mind I use my knives for one of two purposes: cutting
>leather or more typical 'jacknife' applications.

I like about a 22 degree edge, personally. It's got enough metal
behind it to be strong but it's still a real edge. Other people swear
by 20, or 18 or even 17. Part of it is personal preference. And, of
course, the type of metal is going to affect things -- is it fully forged
or is it stamped? Is it 420J, or is it ATS-34? Is it stainless or a high-
carbon steel? Are you using a steel on it after each use, to maintain
the microscopic "teeth" that make up the sharp edge? Either way,
leather is relatively tough material, and IMO a edge that is not a
razor would be better to use.

karinne W

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May 17, 2003, 6:26:53 PM5/17/03
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"Spyral Fox" <spyr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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And beyond steel sharpness capability, is that of glass /obsidian, which is
possible down to *one molecule* edge thickness. Sure, loses it's edge
quickly...but I've read that brain surgery is being done with glass and/or
obsidian blades. Also in question is a new material I've read about in Blade
magazine, liquid metal. Composed of a mix that doesn't bond together into
crystals, the elements it's made of (titanium, copper, beryllium, more)
remain 'mixed and jumbled', sort of, like in glass or even a liquid.
apparently it can be cast (yes, cast) down to one micron out of a mold-
which I'd believe when I saw it, but sounds impressive.
karinne

Janet Miles

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May 18, 2003, 8:52:24 AM5/18/03
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On 13 May 2003 05:27:35 GMT, in message

> In article <b9p6h1$ls1rc$1...@ID-140481.news.dfncis.de>, "Vorticity Kappa"
> <vorttic...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >"Spyral Fox" <spyr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:20030512092736...@mb-m22.aol.com...
> >
> >> soft steel (420J,
> >> the same as a typical good-quality stainless kitchen knife), the
> >> sharpness isn't going to last very long; then, as you are slicing
> >> through a rape, say,
>
> Ahem. Slicing through a *rope*

Do you know, it never occurred to me that was a typo -- I assumed it was a
kitchen reference. Isn't "rape" a kind of vegetable that's usually called
something else?

JanetM
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LususNaturae

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May 18, 2003, 11:18:53 AM5/18/03
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On Sun, 18 May 2003 08:52:24 -0400, Janet Miles
<janet...@chartertn.net> wrote:

> Isn't "rape" a kind of vegetable that's usually called
>something else?

Not actually a kitchen vegetable. It's in the mustard family
and is used for oil (rapeseed oil) and for animal fodder.

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Spyral Fox

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May 19, 2003, 1:27:58 AM5/19/03
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In article <me0fcvstqf2751vmu...@4ax.com>, Janet Miles
<janet...@chartertn.net> writes:

>Do you know, it never occurred to me that was a typo -- I assumed it was a
>kitchen reference. Isn't "rape" a kind of vegetable that's usually called
>something else?

Brassica napus, a herb used to feed animals and to extract
rape seed oil.

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Spyral Fox

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May 19, 2003, 1:27:58 AM5/19/03
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In article <ba6csu$qtb$1...@news.efn.org>, "karinne W" <lks...@efn.org> writes:

>And beyond steel sharpness capability, is that of glass /obsidian, which is
>possible down to *one molecule* edge thickness. Sure, loses it's edge
>quickly...but I've read that brain surgery is being done with glass and/or
>obsidian blades.

I've made glass cutting tools myself, to use under the microscope. I
haven't heard of them being used in brain surgery, but it would be
possible with the microsurgical tools that have been developed.

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Conrad Hodson

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May 19, 2003, 3:07:14 AM5/19/03
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On Sun, 18 May 2003, Janet Miles wrote:
>
> Do you know, it never occurred to me that was a typo -- I assumed it was a
> kitchen reference. Isn't "rape" a kind of vegetable that's usually called
> something else?

Yes--it's a _Brassica_ (cabbage family) occasionally used as a kitchen
green and widely used as an oilseed crop. "Rapeseed oil" is very widely
used, but the PR twits were afraid of the ignorant again and got it
renamed "canola".

"Rape" is actually a very old word for cabbage-type plants; shows up in
kohl-rabi, the Latin _Brassica rapa_ (turnips and kin), and raab.

I believe the other English meaning of "rape" comes in from the
French/Latin side of our heritage--with an original connotation of plunder
or pillage. As in "rapine" and "raptor". As well as "rapture"--to be
carried off.

Conrad Hodson

Bacchae

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May 19, 2003, 11:32:22 AM5/19/03
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"Conrad Hodson" wrote in message...

> Yes--it's a _Brassica_ (cabbage family) occasionally used as
a kitchen
> green and widely used as an oilseed crop. "Rapeseed oil" is
very widely
> used, but the PR twits were afraid of the ignorant again and
got it
> renamed "canola".

Rapeseed was sufficiently refined genetically to reduce the
harmful chemicals it contained such that it was decided that it
should have a new name reflecting its considerable difference
from rapeseed. Continuing to call canola "rapeseed" would be
akin to calling chihuahua "wolf".


- Sandy


Spyral Fox

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May 21, 2003, 9:26:47 AM5/21/03
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In article <Pine.GSU.4.21.030518...@garcia.efn.org>, Conrad
Hodson <con...@efn.org> writes:

>Yes--it's a _Brassica_ (cabbage family) occasionally used as a kitchen
>green and widely used as an oilseed crop. "Rapeseed oil" is very widely
>used, but the PR twits were afraid of the ignorant again and got it
>renamed "canola".

Hey, that's cool. I had no idea that canola was rape. I've got a
couple recipes I rarely make because -- while I *always* have
sesame and canola -- I have trouble finding rape. You have just
broadened my ability to cook!

[LATER] But now, I've read Sandy's comments, and I'm not sure
-- can I substitute, or will I lose some subtleties of flavor?

Cliff

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May 21, 2003, 3:30:07 PM5/21/03
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> [LATER] But now, I've read Sandy's comments, and I'm not sure
> -- can I substitute, or will I lose some subtleties of flavor?

I'm not sure about the advisability of eating a oil with "harmful
chemicals" for its flavor...
But Canola oil is light, and virtually flavorless. You basically use it
for when you want the emulsifying, moistening, or slickening properties
of oil without the flavor.

Had my mother bake brownies with extra virgin olive oil one time. They
turned out great, but had that EVOO aftertaste. I was the only one who
would eat any... my parents were too scared to.

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Binder

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May 21, 2003, 5:31:36 PM5/21/03
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Spyral Fox wrote:
> In article <ba6csu$qtb$1...@news.efn.org>, "karinne W" <lks...@efn.org> writes:
>
>
>>And beyond steel sharpness capability, is that of glass /obsidian, which is
>>possible down to *one molecule* edge thickness. Sure, loses it's edge
>>quickly...but I've read that brain surgery is being done with glass and/or
>>obsidian blades.
>
>
> I've made glass cutting tools myself, to use under the microscope. I
> haven't heard of them being used in brain surgery, but it would be
> possible with the microsurgical tools that have been developed.

I've not heard of them used for brain surgery, but heart work and
some plastic surgeries? Evidently, the wounds heal much faster,
and cleaner than when conventional scalpels are used.


Binder

Menolly

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May 22, 2003, 7:36:41 PM5/22/03
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On Mon, 19 May 2003 00:07:14 -0700, Conrad Hodson <con...@efn.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 18 May 2003, Janet Miles wrote:
>>
>> Do you know, it never occurred to me that was a typo -- I assumed it was a
>> kitchen reference. Isn't "rape" a kind of vegetable that's usually called
>> something else?
>
>Yes--it's a _Brassica_ (cabbage family) occasionally used as a kitchen
>green and widely used as an oilseed crop. "Rapeseed oil" is very widely
>used, but the PR twits were afraid of the ignorant again and got it
>renamed "canola".
>
>"Rape" is actually a very old word for cabbage-type plants; shows up in
>kohl-rabi, the Latin _Brassica rapa_ (turnips and kin), and raab.

And, of course, Rapunzel -- her parents were filching rape from the
witch's garden.

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