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Lorna Doone

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Apr 22, 2003, 9:53:40 PM4/22/03
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Is it my understanding that some men think that in order for a woman to
"win" an arguement,she turns to violence? Well guess what,not ALL women
do! I believe that women who feel a need to hit a guy may stem from HIM
beating her in the first place?.
Now,if indeed certain women out there feel that in order to win an
arguement with their men by smacking them or whatever is a good thing, I
have to say this"What fucking planet are you from anyways!?"

I believe that there is a possibility that I may have misread this post
but I don't see how on earth pyhsical violence ever does anyone any
good.

However,if in fact for some reason a man hits a woman then she has the
right to hit back and should not be afraid to do so! Men are no better
than women and vise versa. And I would condone a woman standing up for
herself by fighting back because in case you MEN haven't noticed--WE ARE
NOT PUNCHING BAGS YOU MORONS!

Sharon B

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Apr 23, 2003, 3:37:10 AM4/23/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:53:40 -0400 (EDT), lornad...@webtv.net
(Lorna Doone) wrote:

>I believe that there is a possibility that I may have misread this post

Yes, you have :-)

Rule #1
Never take a soc.man seriously.

Rule #2
Usenet is not Real Life.

Vill...@webtv.net

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Apr 23, 2003, 11:43:48 PM4/23/03
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lornad...@webtv.net (Lorna Doone)
>Is it my understanding that some men
>think that in order for a woman to "win" an
>arguement,she turns to violence?

Donno. Is that your understanding?
Cuz if it is, you would be correct about half of the time.

> Well
>guess what,not ALL women do!

Nope. Just about half of domestic violence occurances are initiated by
the female. [bit more than half actually...but lettus not quibble]

> I believe
>that women who feel a need to hit a guy
>may stem from HIM beating her in the
>first place?.

I beleive that wimmen who hit men do so out of anger and stupidity.

>Now,if indeed certain women out there
>feel that in order to win an arguement with
>their men by smacking them or whatever
>is a good thing, I have to say this"What
>fucking planet are you from anyways!?"

Earth. The same planet where some men use physical violence against
wimmens as a tool.

>I believe that there is a possibility that I
>may have misread this post but I don't see
>how on earth pyhsical violence ever does
>anyone any good.

How about when some whacko controll freak resorts to violence and
instead of getting your ass kicked... You kick theirs?
Wouldn't that be good? You don't get messed up, which is a net good, And
they learn not to try that shit again....Also good. Hows that sound?

>However,if in fact for some reason a man
>hits a woman then she has the right to hit
>back and should not be afraid to do so!

By extension of this logic then once hit the man has the same right? And
likewise should feer no consequence?

>Men are no better than women and vise
>versa.

In terms of physical combat? On average- Yer dreaming. Or- relying upon
social stigma to save your ass. Fact is; many men and wimmen beleive it
is their 'right' to go physical once their personal line is crossed.
Butch up.

> And I would condone a woman
>standing up for herself by fighting back
>because in case you MEN haven't
>noticed--WE ARE NOT PUNCHING
>BAGS YOU MORONS!

Sure you are. We all are. It's a part of human nature to engage our
phisicality in a contest. A slap is as punk as a punch once reason is
abandoned.

And for all your strident postureing about how gender is at issue,
Really it isn't. Physical assault is physical assault.

EEEEEEEvil MENSES!!!! you cry. They BEATS us! They Hurts Us!

Unfortunately there are a few problems. First and foremost is a simple
mater of relative size and distribution of muscle mass. So unless the
smaller of the two combatants is versed in fighting tecknique......then
they would be well advised to not start. I would apply this basic fact
without regard to gender.

You know, In the real world?

Not the farie tale world where the innies are gentle and caring
creatures and outies are ravening beasts. Tra la.

Cuz heres the thing. For many men, to initiate physical hostilities
against a physicaly weaker opponent is an act of dishonor. It goes
against the code of ethics. For many of us it's an ingrained tenent of
what it means to be a man.

K? Got that? We gots our fairy tale worlds also. And they protect the
weak.

Some wimmen can push that to the limit. And do. Which is bad enough.
Pure cowardice in my estimation. What's worse is when wimmen USE that
against us.

It's quite odd. Isn't it?

In todays world _All_ men are expected to behave as gentlemen, As
defined by their actions. Which clearly all men are not. And yet, the
art of being a gentlewoman, as defined by their actions, seems to have
become....... Un-necessary. Some of you seem to think that because you
were born with a vagina and ovaries instead of a penis and testicles
that you are somehow majikly absolved from the taking of responsability
for your personal behaviour. You are not. If you aspire to the deference
that a gentleman will gladly afford to a gentlewoman then you must earn
it. Or- You are 'entitled' to be treated like a Lady only so far as you
hold up your end of the bargan and 'behave' as one.

Which does not include resorting to physical violence.

So if you ever 'feel the need' to slap some guy for whatever
reason......... You lose.

A gentleman will take the blow and snear at you for your abuse of
convention and dismiss you as a barbarian.

A non-gentleman will knock you on your ass. Which if you want to get
technical about it is 'self-defence'. Again, You lose.

That you may prevail in a court of law, says nothing to the 'rightness'
of your assault upon another person......... Always assumeing here that
you hold to a single standard. That is what you want....Huh?


UW

Vapid Shell Me

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May 4, 2003, 5:16:07 PM5/4/03
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:43:48 -0700 (MST), Vill...@webtv.net wrote:
>lornad...@webtv.net (Lorna=A0Doone)
>>Is it my understanding that some men
>>think that in order for a woman to "win" an
>>arguement,she turns to violence?
>
>Donno. Is that your understanding?
>Cuz if it is, you would be correct about half of the time.

It does happen. Of course, I would hazard a guess that "sizing" up
most relationships, a woman slapping a man ain't a bright thing to do.

>> Well
>>guess what,not ALL women do!

Nor do all men.

>Nope. Just about half of domestic violence occurances are initiated by
>the female. [bit more than half actually...but lettus not quibble]

Quibbling must be done, otherwise there is no usenet. So, we'll
quibble later.

>> I believe
>>that women who feel a need to hit a guy
>>may stem from HIM beating her in the
>>first place?.
>
>I beleive that wimmen who hit men do so out of anger and stupidity.

I would agree with that. And sometimes they are calculatingly
counting on the "guys shouldn't hit girls" philosophy upon which many
men have been reared.

>>Now,if indeed certain women out there
>>feel that in order to win an arguement with
>>their men by smacking them or whatever
>>is a good thing, I have to say this"What
>>fucking planet are you from anyways!?"
>
>Earth.

Earthling! Were you aware of our Plan 9 to take over the world?

>The same planet where some men use physical violence against
>wimmens as a tool.

I wonder what Lorna's concern is with planetary location.

>>I believe that there is a possibility that I
>>may have misread this post but I don't see
>>how on earth pyhsical violence ever does
>>anyone any good.
>
>How about when some whacko controll freak resorts to violence and
>instead of getting your ass kicked... You kick theirs?

Are we revisting the school bully debate? <g>

>Wouldn't that be good? You don't get messed up, which is a net good, And
>they learn not to try that shit again....Also good. Hows that sound?

Did I mention that I'm not a pacifist?

>>However,if in fact for some reason a man
>>hits a woman then she has the right to hit
>>back and should not be afraid to do so!
>
>By extension of this logic then once hit the man has the same right? And
>likewise should feer no consequence?

Better to live, leave and press charges, IMHO.

>>Men are no better than women and vise
>>versa.
>
>In terms of physical combat? On average- Yer dreaming. Or- relying upon
>social stigma to save your ass. Fact is; many men and wimmen beleive it
>is their 'right' to go physical once their personal line is crossed.
>Butch up.

As a young chirren, my personal line was crossed and I hit a kid with
his crutch. That would probably be frowned upon.

>> And I would condone a woman
>>standing up for herself by fighting back
>>because in case you MEN haven't
>>noticed--WE ARE NOT PUNCHING
>>BAGS YOU MORONS!
>
>Sure you are. We all are. It's a part of human nature to engage our
>phisicality in a contest. A slap is as punk as a punch once reason is
>abandoned.
>
>And for all your strident postureing about how gender is at issue,
>Really it isn't. Physical assault is physical assault.

And physical assault is the issue.

>EEEEEEEvil MENSES!!!! you cry. They BEATS us! They Hurts Us!

Do you figure that men just don't report it? I ran across a stat
according to the Justice Department said 95% of domestic abuse is
against women. I am quite sure that men just don't report it as
often.

I read an article in the news the other day about a couple. What made
them newsworthy, you might ask? She had shot him and he was now
disabled. He refused to press charges, the state is considering
pressing charges. And they are getting married. ICNMTSU.

> Unfortunately there are a few problems. First and foremost is a simple
>mater of relative size and distribution of muscle mass. So unless the
>smaller of the two combatants is versed in fighting tecknique......then
>they would be well advised to not start. I would apply this basic fact
>without regard to gender.

>You know, In the real world?

The one where bruises can appear? That world?

>Not the farie tale world where the innies are gentle and caring
>creatures and outies are ravening beasts. Tra la.
>
>Cuz heres the thing. For many men, to initiate physical hostilities
>against a physicaly weaker opponent is an act of dishonor. It goes
>against the code of ethics. For many of us it's an ingrained tenent of
>what it means to be a man.

There are women who take advantage of this.

>K? Got that? We gots our fairy tale worlds also. And they protect the
>weak.
>
>Some wimmen can push that to the limit. And do. Which is bad enough.
>Pure cowardice in my estimation. What's worse is when wimmen USE that
>against us.

Knowing when to temporarily disengage during a pointedly painful
discussion, is a wise thing.

>It's quite odd. Isn't it?

Humans can really suck.

>In todays world _All_ men are expected to behave as gentlemen, As
>defined by their actions. Which clearly all men are not. And yet, the
>art of being a gentlewoman, as defined by their actions, seems to have
>become....... Un-necessary. Some of you seem to think that because you
>were born with a vagina and ovaries instead of a penis and testicles
>that you are somehow majikly absolved from the taking of responsability
>for your personal behaviour. You are not. If you aspire to the deference
>that a gentleman will gladly afford to a gentlewoman then you must earn
>it. Or- You are 'entitled' to be treated like a Lady only so far as you
>hold up your end of the bargan and 'behave' as one.

>Which does not include resorting to physical violence.
>
>So if you ever 'feel the need' to slap some guy for whatever
>reason......... You lose.

Well, unless you're a teenager in highschool and some guy keeps
grabbing your breasts in the hall during class change.

>A gentleman will take the blow and snear at you for your abuse of
>convention and dismiss you as a barbarian.

Before or after he removes his hand from her tit?

> A non-gentleman will knock you on your ass. Which if you want to get
>technical about it is 'self-defence'. Again, You lose.
>
>That you may prevail in a court of law, says nothing to the 'rightness'
>of your assault upon another person......... Always assumeing here that
>you hold to a single standard. That is what you want....Huh?

VSM - Should she want in one hand?

>UW

Sharon B

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May 4, 2003, 7:06:45 PM5/4/03
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On Sun, 04 May 2003 21:16:07 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:43:48 -0700 (MST), Vill...@webtv.net wrote:
>>lornad...@webtv.net (Lorna=A0Doone)
>>>Is it my understanding that some men
>>>think that in order for a woman to "win" an
>>>arguement,she turns to violence?
>>
>>Donno. Is that your understanding?
>>Cuz if it is, you would be correct about half of the time.
>
>It does happen. Of course, I would hazard a guess that "sizing" up
>most relationships, a woman slapping a man ain't a bright thing to do.

Nope. People should keep thar hands to themselves; besides, slappin'
him is just gonna p*ss him off, if'n ya hafta pop somebody that's
stronger, a foot taller and 100# heavier, ya best make it a good one
so's he can't hit ya back.

[...]


>>How about when some whacko controll freak resorts to violence and
>>instead of getting your ass kicked... You kick theirs?
>
>Are we revisting the school bully debate? <g>

Ah....well I remember the first time I put a whuppin' on a feller...

I was in 3rd grade, he was in 5th. He'd walked all the way down the
road to pick a fight with his sister, who was in 1st. He popped her
in the stomach, she went down. I knew how this felt, cuz I'd tie a
rope between two trees and try to jump over it, and sometimes my feet
wouldn't clear and I'd knock the wind out of myself.

So while she was laying at his feet trying to breathe, I ran to the
porch for the broom. I got back about the time she started crying,
and he was telling her not to be a crybaby, and that p*ssed me off
even more than I already was and I whomped him a good one across the
back with the broom handle and he started runnin'.

My front yard was big enough to play baseball in--matter of fact, we
were playing softball when he showed up. He musta made two laps
around the yard with me givin' him the business end of the broom all
the way before he caught a clue and took off up the street crying his
own self and holding his back.

It was then that I realized that bullies ain't too smart. If he were
smart he woulda ran right past first base and on up the street cuz he
knew I wasn't allowed to leave the yard.

[...]


>As a young chirren, my personal line was crossed and I hit a kid with
>his crutch. That would probably be frowned upon.

What did he do, and where did you hit him?
[...]


>Do you figure that men just don't report it? I ran across a stat
>according to the Justice Department said 95% of domestic abuse is
>against women. I am quite sure that men just don't report it as
>often.

The soc.fr00ts found a Justice Dept. survey....804,000 men/year.

>I read an article in the news the other day about a couple. What made
>them newsworthy, you might ask? She had shot him and he was now
>disabled. He refused to press charges, the state is considering
>pressing charges. And they are getting married. ICNMTSU.

<shakes head in amazement>

[...]


>>So if you ever 'feel the need' to slap some guy for whatever
>>reason......... You lose.
>
>Well, unless you're a teenager in highschool and some guy keeps
>grabbing your breasts in the hall during class change.

YOU WENT TO MY HIGHSCHOOL!!!!

Slapping didn't work. Neither did punching. The last time he did it,
I reached out and grabbed a handful of testicles. That worked.

I was on the girls' tennis team. I had The Grip From Hell.

>>A gentleman will take the blow and snear at you for your abuse of
>>convention and dismiss you as a barbarian.
>
>Before or after he removes his hand from her tit?

Actually, villebill has it backwards. He didn't start calling me
"ma'am" and stuff, in that high pitched voice, till after he was up on
his tippy toes.

>> A non-gentleman will knock you on your ass.

Not if you pop him hard enough.

>Which if you want to get
>>technical about it is 'self-defence'. Again, You lose.
>>
>>That you may prevail in a court of law, says nothing to the 'rightness'
>>of your assault upon another person......... Always assumeing here that
>>you hold to a single standard. That is what you want....Huh?
>
>VSM - Should she want in one hand?

Yes...and you know what she should do with the other.

Jim Ledford

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May 4, 2003, 7:57:07 PM5/4/03
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Sharon B wrote:

> Ah....well I remember the first time I put a whuppin' on a feller...
>
> I was in 3rd grade, he was in 5th. He'd walked all the way down the
> road to pick a fight with his sister, who was in 1st. He popped her
> in the stomach, she went down. I knew how this felt, cuz I'd tie a
> rope between two trees and try to jump over it, and sometimes my feet
> wouldn't clear and I'd knock the wind out of myself.
>
> So while she was laying at his feet trying to breathe, I ran to the
> porch for the broom. I got back about the time she started crying,
> and he was telling her not to be a crybaby, and that p*ssed me off
> even more than I already was and I whomped him a good one across the
> back with the broom handle and he started runnin'.
>
> My front yard was big enough to play baseball in--matter of fact, we
> were playing softball when he showed up. He musta made two laps
> around the yard with me givin' him the business end of the broom all
> the way before he caught a clue and took off up the street crying his
> own self and holding his back.
>
> It was then that I realized that bullies ain't too smart. If he were
> smart he woulda ran right past first base and on up the street cuz he
> knew I wasn't allowed to leave the yard.


this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)

Charmedone619

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May 5, 2003, 12:30:15 AM5/5/03
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Well now I can see that this "Bob" moron is just that.
Last I knew,rape is UNCONSENTUAL sex{dunt pic on my speling,lol}. If a
woman is drunk and has sex with a man,I don't see how it can be
considered rape unless she's totally passed out without knowing what is
happening to her.
Hey Bob,in case ya haven't noticed,women DO get arrested now for
domestic violence.
Try watching the news sometimes,you may learn something!

I will stand by what I said before,that if a MAN should hit a woman
first,dam right she should hit him back,duh! And even if the WOMAN may
have done something to provoke him,it still gives him no right
whatsoever to strike her.
Any REAL man would have enough brains in his stupid head to walk away
until things cool down. Then again,a WOMAN should too.


Sound pissed off about this do I? Hell Yeah! I can say this shit because
I have been abused by men and I NEVER backed down from them,EVER! I
didn't care who they thought they were.I am human too.

In my opinion,people need to learn to avoid this type of conflict by
either talking it out OR someone leaving before it is too late and
someone ends up hurt---or dead.

Lorna

Sharon B

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May 5, 2003, 11:21:29 AM5/5/03
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On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)

I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.

I read it on Usenet.

Vapid Shell Me

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May 5, 2003, 11:36:41 AM5/5/03
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Well, Truck Driving Cody, why are you pretending to be Country Girl
Sharon?

>I read it on Usenet.

I believe everything I read on Usenet.

VSM - why would anyone lie?

tom calwell

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May 5, 2003, 12:14:17 PM5/5/03
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m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me) wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B aka """cody""" <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
>>
>>I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
>>guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.

you should really stop this pretending, sharon [if that's your real
name...]

>Well, Truck Driving Cody, why are you pretending to be Country Girl
>Sharon?
>
>>I read it on Usenet.
>
>I believe everything I read on Usenet.
>
>VSM - why would anyone lie?

if you think she's may be this cody character, that's good enough for
me.


best,
Tom

Sharon B

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May 5, 2003, 1:27:00 PM5/5/03
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On Mon, 05 May 2003 15:36:41 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:


>
>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
>>
>>I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
>>guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.
>
>Well, Truck Driving Cody, why are you pretending to be Country Girl
>Sharon?

Because today is not the first Tuesday of a month that ends in "Y" in
an odd year, on which I am Taylor Netscum.....Cipher is me when I am
Taylor.

It's all scientifically drawn out on charts with cue cards and sticky
notes, you know.

>>I read it on Usenet.
>
>I believe everything I read on Usenet.

That can be very entertaining.

>VSM - why would anyone lie?

I curtsey--make that a bow, guys don't curtsey--before your awesome
spankage of Sobolewski, btw. Good stuff, I laughed and laughed and
laughed.

SB - maybe Mark curtsies?

Vapid Shell Me

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May 5, 2003, 2:03:43 PM5/5/03
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On Mon, 05 May 2003 13:27:00 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2003 15:36:41 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
>>>
>>>I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
>>>guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.
>>
>>Well, Truck Driving Cody, why are you pretending to be Country Girl
>>Sharon?
>
>Because today is not the first Tuesday of a month that ends in "Y" in
>an odd year, on which I am Taylor Netscum.....Cipher is me when I am
>Taylor.

So, who's playing Sobolewki this week?

That's got to be a cartoon character.

I picture Barney Fife chasing women down a wooden sidewalk screeching
"Gift of my will, gift of my will!"

>It's all scientifically drawn out on charts with cue cards and sticky
>notes, you know.

Hopefully stuck to your monitors for ease of access and to limit
possible confusion of characters during alternations.

>>>I read it on Usenet.
>>
>>I believe everything I read on Usenet.
>
>That can be very entertaining.

Except that Tom guy, you can't believe anything he says.

>>VSM - why would anyone lie?
>
>I curtsey--make that a bow, guys don't curtsey--before your awesome
>spankage of Sobolewski, btw. Good stuff, I laughed and laughed and
>laughed.

Was it the Sesame Street reference or the glory hole reference?

I was quite pleased to get both of those in an acceptable context in
the *same* message.

>SB - maybe Mark curtsies?

Not around WD, because WD doesn't want to feel like Mark's begging for
it,

VSM - or something.

Jim Ledford

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May 5, 2003, 2:10:03 PM5/5/03
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Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
>
> >this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
>
> I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
> guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.

did you get the hat? if not, then I'll
have to do something about that because
there is no way you can be a trucker
without the hat.

> I read it on Usenet.

once upon a time, was how it started.

Vapid Shell Me

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May 5, 2003, 4:03:27 PM5/5/03
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On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14:17 -0500, tom calwell
<tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B aka """cody""" <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
>>>
>>>I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
>>>guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.
>
>you should really stop this pretending, sharon [if that's your real
>name...]

I think it's clear that Sharon has been leading us on as to her real,
true identity. That was clear to me when she chose the wrong
watermelon seeds to plant.

>>Well, Truck Driving Cody, why are you pretending to be Country Girl
>>Sharon?
>>
>>>I read it on Usenet.
>>
>>I believe everything I read on Usenet.
>>
>>VSM - why would anyone lie?
>
>if you think she's may be this cody character, that's good enough for
>me.

The calluses on her palms that correspond with her big rig's steering
wheel gave the rest of it away.

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Know what I mean?

>best,
>Tom

It's Monday.

VSM - Do not associate the word "best" with "Monday".

Sharon B

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May 5, 2003, 4:24:45 PM5/5/03
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On Mon, 05 May 2003 14:10:03 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>Sharon B wrote:


>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>>
>> >this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
>>
>> I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
>> guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.
>
>did you get the hat? if not, then I'll
>have to do something about that because
>there is no way you can be a trucker
>without the hat.

I got no hat....dun need no hat hair...dun need no hat

I have a couple straw hats, don't wear 'em. Hat Hair is BAD.

My neighbor lady is a trucker, she ain't go no hat neither.
Her mother is in her 80s and cuts their grass on their garden tractor
in her tube top.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

....all my neighbors are eccentric

>> I read it on Usenet.
>
>once upon a time, was how it started.

that's because starting with happily ever after just takes all the fun
out of it

Sharon B

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May 5, 2003, 4:35:00 PM5/5/03
to
On Mon, 05 May 2003 18:03:43 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2003 13:27:00 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 15:36:41 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:

[...]


>>>Well, Truck Driving Cody, why are you pretending to be Country Girl
>>>Sharon?
>>
>>Because today is not the first Tuesday of a month that ends in "Y" in
>>an odd year, on which I am Taylor Netscum.....Cipher is me when I am
>>Taylor.
>
>So, who's playing Sobolewki this week?

We all are. Like a violin.

>That's got to be a cartoon character.
>
>I picture Barney Fife chasing women down a wooden sidewalk screeching
>"Gift of my will, gift of my will!"

*snarf*

>>It's all scientifically drawn out on charts with cue cards and sticky
>>notes, you know.
>
>Hopefully stuck to your monitors for ease of access and to limit
>possible confusion of characters during alternations.

It gets confusing. Once we had a "Everyone is Skippy Day"
[one of thorne's aliases http://www.lart.com/thornefaq.html]

That was funny, especially with headers turned off. Some of the
participants had his syntax down pat, and he spent the day
arguing/flaming himself.

>>>>I read it on Usenet.
>>>
>>>I believe everything I read on Usenet.
>>
>>That can be very entertaining.
>
>Except that Tom guy, you can't believe anything he says.

IIRC, we've played together a smidgeon on supernews.general.

>>>VSM - why would anyone lie?
>>
>>I curtsey--make that a bow, guys don't curtsey--before your awesome
>>spankage of Sobolewski, btw. Good stuff, I laughed and laughed and
>>laughed.
>
>Was it the Sesame Street reference or the glory hole reference?
>
>I was quite pleased to get both of those in an acceptable context in
>the *same* message.

It was the entire thing....from Dan's layup to your double swoosh.
Poetry in printed prose, it was.....some FINE UPA. Brought a tear to
my eye, reminiscent of some of Menjy and The 2-Belo's works. I'm sure
it whizzed right over Mark's nob, all 140 of it.


Jim Ledford

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May 5, 2003, 5:41:42 PM5/5/03
to
Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >>
> >> >this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
> >>
> >> I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
> >> guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.
> >
> >did you get the hat? if not, then I'll
> >have to do something about that because
> >there is no way you can be a trucker
> >without the hat.
>
> I got no hat....dun need no hat hair...dun need no hat
>
> I have a couple straw hats, don't wear 'em. Hat Hair is BAD.

straw hat won't do for truck driving unless it's a Dodge
you're driving and you know we make fun of those anyhow.

Hat Hair is a sign of longevity and a significant
characterization of a long hauler. you don't
want to be called short, do you?

> My neighbor lady is a trucker, she ain't go no hat neither.

short hauler!


> >> I read it on Usenet.
> >
> >once upon a time, was how it started.
>
> that's because starting with happily ever after just takes all the fun
> out of it

yea, the condensed version sucked!

Sharon B

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May 6, 2003, 7:02:28 AM5/6/03
to
On Mon, 05 May 2003 17:41:42 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>Sharon B wrote:
>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> Jim Ledford wrote:

[...]


>straw hat won't do for truck driving unless it's a Dodge
>you're driving and you know we make fun of those anyhow.

I would never drive a truck, they are WAY too big for me, IMHO. I'd
drive a veewee, I love those.....'ceptin' I can't fit bales of hay or
2 X 4' in one.

>Hat Hair is a sign of longevity and a significant
>characterization of a long hauler. you don't
>want to be called short, do you?

..but....I shop in the petite dept. i AM short :-)

>> My neighbor lady is a trucker, she ain't go no hat neither.
>
>short hauler!
>
>
>> >> I read it on Usenet.
>> >
>> >once upon a time, was how it started.
>>
>> that's because starting with happily ever after just takes all the fun
>> out of it
>
>yea, the condensed version sucked!

This rain sucks. My spiffy new craftsman 5 HP rear tine tiller
arrived (Sears sucked, but they finally showed up with it about 6pm,
so they don't suck anymore)...and I don't get to play with it for the
forseeable future--it rained on May 1--and the saying is if it rains
on the 1st it will rain till the 15th, all I got to do was uncrate it
and put it in the garage. it has GEARS and one of them is REVERSE!!!

It also has a leveller, I dunno how useful that will be....the side
shield to keep the dirt from burying plants to the side will come in
handy, since MY tip to beat the rain is to till what I need, then
plant it, then till more. I larned that the hard way, not that my
recreational gardening comes anywhere NEAR what you do.

Craftsman stuff ROCKS....so does DR, but Craftsman stuff arrives
mostly assembled, where DR arrives mostly in pieces. A family member
gave me a DR Brush and Field mower (several years old but never used,
and still in some pieces because that family member is not one to
RTFM)....but I didn't get to play with it last year...this year, after
the planting is done. IT TAKES DOWN SMALL TREES!!! It's even
self-propelled.

Yes, Dan, I do have an impressive array of tools....especially for a
gurl. I don't think anyone ever has a complete set, though. Just too
many fun and fascinating power toys.


Sharon B

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May 6, 2003, 7:14:04 AM5/6/03
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On Mon, 05 May 2003 20:03:27 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14:17 -0500, tom calwell
><tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me) wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B aka """cody""" <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
>>>>
>>>>I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
>>>>guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.
>>
>>you should really stop this pretending, sharon [if that's your real
>>name...]
>
>I think it's clear that Sharon has been leading us on as to her real,
>true identity. That was clear to me when she chose the wrong
>watermelon seeds to plant.

WRONG??!!!???!???

Next I suppose you're gonna pick on my green beans (top crop) and
sweet corn (sungold). Hmmmph!

There's a 'refrigerator melon' watermelon, it gets round rather than
oval and small enough to fit in the 'frig...it's pretty good. All of
them, like any other produce, taste better out of the garden. I don't
even buy tomatoes from the grocery store anymore..they all taste like
cardboard. Blegh.

[...]


>>if you think she's may be this cody character, that's good enough for
>>me.
>
>The calluses on her palms that correspond with her big rig's steering
>wheel gave the rest of it away.
>
>Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Know what I mean?

Those are from the tiller, I swear.

Jim Ledford

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May 6, 2003, 9:26:21 AM5/6/03
to
Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> [...]
> >straw hat won't do for truck driving unless it's a Dodge
> >you're driving and you know we make fun of those anyhow.
>
> I would never drive a truck, they are WAY too big for me, IMHO. I'd
> drive a veewee, I love those.....'ceptin' I can't fit bales of hay or
> 2 X 4' in one.

a small trailer to pull behind your
veewee will allow for some light hauling.


> >Hat Hair is a sign of longevity and a significant
> >characterization of a long hauler. you don't
> >want to be called short, do you?
>
> ..but....I shop in the petite dept. i AM short :-)

come to think of it, with women, some
of the old trucker jokes don't work.


> >> >> I read it on Usenet.
> >> >
> >> >once upon a time, was how it started.
> >>
> >> that's because starting with happily ever after just takes all the fun
> >> out of it
> >
> >yea, the condensed version sucked!
>
> This rain sucks.

yes, I got drowned on a grass mowing job yesterday. the job
site is 42 acres with about 17 acres to mow, so I can get a
few minutes ride on the lawn tractor away from the truck. it
was also cold here yesterday, about 52 for a high. wet and
cold are not a good combination.

> My spiffy new craftsman 5 HP rear tine tiller

smart of you to buy a rear tine tiller.
the front tine will beat you to death
and sometimes take you places you don't
want to go.

> arrived (Sears sucked, but they finally showed up with it about 6pm,
> so they don't suck anymore)...and I don't get to play with it for the
> forseeable future--it rained on May 1--and the saying is if it rains
> on the 1st it will rain till the 15th, all I got to do was uncrate it
> and put it in the garage. it has GEARS and one of them is REVERSE!!!

recommendation from a motor head to you. you got a brand new motor
and I hope it's a Briggs & Stratton. Fill with 30 weight motor oil
to the correct level, run motor for one tank of gas, then change the
oil. look at the oil in the catch pan and I bet you'll see metal
flakes or shavings. doing this will make that motor last a long time.
stay with SAE 30 weight viscosity grade oil. using a multi viscosity
such as 10W-30 will cause the motor to start using or burning oil at
an early age. when using the motor in cool weather with SAE 30 weight
oil ALWAYS allow the motor to warm up before you put the motor under a
load. just let the motor idle for about two minutes first to allow for
the parts to change size as they warm up.

one more thing, REVERSE is the most dangerous feature on your
tiller. ALWAYS make plans to get your feet out of the way
before shifting into reverse.


> It also has a leveller, I dunno how useful that will be....

you'll find it most useful if you can swing the handle to
the side so you don't have to walk in the till. short legs
will make it rather difficult to straddle the till.

> the side
> shield to keep the dirt from burying plants to the side will come in
> handy,

yes a very handy feature indeed when cultivating for weed removal.


> since MY tip to beat the rain is to till what I need, then
> plant it, then till more. I larned that the hard way, not that my
> recreational gardening comes anywhere NEAR what you do.

we're doing the same thing here. My John Deere 4020 burns right
at 8 gallons of diesel fuel an hour and with that fuel consumption
rate I can't afford to redo to often.

> Craftsman stuff ROCKS....

I like their hand tools, wrenches and socket sets because when
I break them Sears gives me a free replacement. last week I
broke a 1 and 1/8 inch open end wrench. I was pulling on it
with a 4 foot long pull pipe when the wrench went PING.

> so does DR, but Craftsman stuff arrives
> mostly assembled, where DR arrives mostly in pieces. A family member
> gave me a DR Brush and Field mower (several years old but never used,
> and still in some pieces because that family member is not one to
> RTFM)....but I didn't get to play with it last year...this year, after
> the planting is done. IT TAKES DOWN SMALL TREES!!! It's even
> self-propelled.

http://www.countryhomeproducts.com:80///Default.asp?mscsid=RB1WPW6CGMGN9P72861QMJLTSGCT2S03&

"Country Home Products is all about a way
of life -- taking pride in your property,
the love of outdoor projects, fresh air,
healthy exercise and the satisfaction of a
job well done."

I wish I had written that.

http://www.countryhomeproducts.com:80///drpehome.asp?mscsid=DUPULX1346SR9G3UDG9BA94N4L1W04RB&

more toys! :)

> Yes, Dan, I do have an impressive array of tools....especially for a
> gurl. I don't think anyone ever has a complete set, though. Just too
> many fun and fascinating power toys.

if dan had any idea what a baby doll
you are he be to intimidated to even
speak.

Sharon B

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May 6, 2003, 1:32:58 PM5/6/03
to
On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14:17 -0500, tom calwell
<tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B aka """cody""" <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST :)
>>>
>>>I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some trucker
>>>guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.
>
>you should really stop this pretending, sharon [if that's your real
>name...]

<checks color coded chart>

Taylor Netscum, today....first Tuesday of a month ending in "Y" in an
odd year. You want Cipher, who is always Sharon B when I am Taylor.

[...]


>if you think she's may be this cody character, that's good enough for
>me.

Didn't we play on SN.general a bit? I've purged recently, so I can't
check (:-

<i knew purging was EVHUL and those 'thou must purge-ists' were
minions of Satan>

John Fereira

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May 6, 2003, 6:35:04 PM5/6/03
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Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in news:pr3fbvsguu44uqjpirnn5fv2l5jhakv7md@
4ax.com:

> On Mon, 05 May 2003 17:41:42 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Sharon B wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>>> > Sharon B wrote:
>>> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> [...]
>>straw hat won't do for truck driving unless it's a Dodge you're driving
>>and you know we make fun of those anyhow.
>
> I would never drive a truck, they are WAY too big for me, IMHO.

You could always sit on a telephone book. Tee hee.


>
> This rain sucks. My spiffy new craftsman 5 HP rear tine tiller
> arrived (Sears sucked, but they finally showed up with it about 6pm,
> so they don't suck anymore)...and I don't get to play with it for the
> forseeable future--it rained on May 1--and the saying is if it rains
> on the 1st it will rain till the 15th, all I got to do was uncrate it
> and put it in the garage. it has GEARS and one of them is REVERSE!!!

I just spent the last hour trying to get my brother-n-laws Mantis cultivator
started. Did Sears have any decent deals on a small 2-cycle cultivator?


> Yes, Dan, I do have an impressive array of tools....especially for a
> gurl. I don't think anyone ever has a complete set, though. Just too
> many fun and fascinating power toys.

www.harborfreight.com Good prices, good selection. free shipping.

John Fereira

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to
Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
news:3v5fbv8elbm9lr92a...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 05 May 2003 20:03:27 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14:17 -0500, tom calwell
>><tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B aka """cody"""
>>>><sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford
>>>>><jim...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>this is just one of the many reasons why Country Girls are the BEST
>>>>>>:)
>>>>>
>>>>>I apparently am no longer a Country Girl. This week I am some
>>>>>trucker guy named Cody posting over on misc.transport.trucking.
>>>
>>>you should really stop this pretending, sharon [if that's your real
>>>name...]
>>
>>I think it's clear that Sharon has been leading us on as to her real,
>>true identity. That was clear to me when she chose the wrong watermelon
>>seeds to plant.
>
> WRONG??!!!???!???
>
> Next I suppose you're gonna pick on my green beans (top crop) and
> sweet corn (sungold). Hmmmph!

Pay her no mind. It's obvious that your melons are 4Her2NV.



> There's a 'refrigerator melon' watermelon, it gets round rather than
> oval and small enough to fit in the 'frig...it's pretty good. All of
> them, like any other produce, taste better out of the garden. I don't
> even buy tomatoes from the grocery store anymore..they all taste like
> cardboard. Blegh.

The only thing that tastes better out of the garden than store bought are
strawberries.

Jim Ledford

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May 6, 2003, 8:19:55 PM5/6/03
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John Fereira wrote:

[....]



> I just spent the last hour trying to get my brother-n-laws Mantis cultivator
> started. Did Sears have any decent deals on a small 2-cycle cultivator?

4 Prong Cultivator
4 sharp, curved, rounded tines.
4 3/4'' head width. Welded...

was 12.99 on sale now for 10.99


http://www.countrygardensinc.com/s/shop/list.asp?subsec=CULTIVATORS+AND+HOES&sec=TOOLS


I also like the 3-Tine Deck Cultivator
but even at their sale price I feel
they are still a bit to proud of this
one. I'd say don't pay over 9.00 for
one of these.

as for Sears and the stuff they sell.

they got this neat service contract for rich people.
I don't know a lot of the details but a friend says
they'll come out twice a year to service the eq.
if it don't crank and you got their service contract,
then you call'em and they'll be out the next day to fix
the problem. the friend really likes the piece of mind.
I'm glad friend is happy.

Sharon B

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May 6, 2003, 9:19:24 PM5/6/03
to
On Tue, 06 May 2003 09:26:21 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>Sharon B wrote:
>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> >> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:

[...]


>a small trailer to pull behind your
>veewee will allow for some light hauling.

[slaps self in head]

D'oh....I.R.Retard. That never occurred to me.
As soon as the wagon falls apart....

I like to drive 'em till they DIE :-)

[...]


>yes, I got drowned on a grass mowing job yesterday. the job
>site is 42 acres with about 17 acres to mow, so I can get a
>few minutes ride on the lawn tractor away from the truck.

A few minutes? Doesn't it take you all day long, or longer to cut it?
How wide is your lawn tractor deck?

>it
>was also cold here yesterday, about 52 for a high. wet and
>cold are not a good combination.

Sympathies....it did that here when it hailed Friday.

>> My spiffy new craftsman 5 HP rear tine tiller
>
>smart of you to buy a rear tine tiller.
>the front tine will beat you to death

[looks at bruises in diverse places]

>and sometimes take you places you don't
>want to go.

*snarf*
My garden's on a hillside, so usually that's over to one side...as in
capsized.
But I imagine the time or twenty it's pulled me across the yard was
amusing to watch :-)

[...]


>recommendation from a motor head to you. you got a brand new motor
>and I hope it's a Briggs & Stratton. Fill with 30 weight motor oil
>to the correct level, run motor for one tank of gas, then change the
>oil. look at the oil in the catch pan and I bet you'll see metal
>flakes or shavings. doing this will make that motor last a long time.

Ooohhhhhhhhhhhh....so *that's* why the manuals say to do that! They
never said *why*, so I've always ignored it. Thanks!

[...]


>you'll find it most useful if you can swing the handle to
>the side so you don't have to walk in the till. short legs
>will make it rather difficult to straddle the till.

No, the handle is immobile.

>> the side
>> shield to keep the dirt from burying plants to the side will come in
>> handy,
>
>yes a very handy feature indeed when cultivating for weed removal.

Last year we had a drought, so I put newspaper and contractor's paper
down around all the plants/between the rows with straw on top of that,
and I didn't have to weed at all.

<grin>
I kin fit two bales of straw in my Bessie at a time, I've got six so
far......and the co-op's last flat of June bearing strawberries.

[...]


>we're doing the same thing here. My John Deere 4020 burns right
>at 8 gallons of diesel fuel an hour and with that fuel consumption
>rate I can't afford to redo to often.

No, I guess not. Spring is always so pressured....trying to get
everything in the ground between rainstorms, having to cut the grass
twice a week cuz of all the rain.

>> Craftsman stuff ROCKS....
>
>I like their hand tools, wrenches and socket sets because when
>I break them Sears gives me a free replacement. last week I
>broke a 1 and 1/8 inch open end wrench. I was pulling on it
>with a 4 foot long pull pipe when the wrench went PING.

You know I don't know what either of those two are, unless the open
end wrench is a crescent wrench. I have a friend that tilled a
Craftsman something or other up, all rusty and stuff...no telling how
many years it had been buried, took it in and Sears gave him another
one.

Their stripped screw head screw remover set is on my wish list.

[...]

Their stuff is awesome....overpriced, but awesome. I also have the DR
Trimmer....it's not self propelled, but it has wheelchair sized wheels
making it able to be pushed up steep hills, even. Easy to 'string',
easy to start. The wheels shift to either side and lock so you can
push straight yet whack on either side if you want. Great tool. The
only rub is there's a gas shut off lever, and if you forget to turn it
off when you're done, all the gas runs out.....great on gas, btw.

<yes, the new tiller is a briggs & stratton engine>

Sharon B

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May 6, 2003, 9:19:30 PM5/6/03
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[staggeringly long gasp for air]

BULL--AZZ--PHEE--MER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ANYTHING i grow in Le Jardin de Moi beats HANDS DOWN anything
available at the supermarket.

*sniff*

Sharon B

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May 6, 2003, 9:19:32 PM5/6/03
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On 6 May 2003 22:35:04 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:

>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in news:pr3fbvsguu44uqjpirnn5fv2l5jhakv7md@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 05 May 2003 17:41:42 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Sharon B wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>>>> > Sharon B wrote:
>>>> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> [...]
>>>straw hat won't do for truck driving unless it's a Dodge you're driving
>>>and you know we make fun of those anyhow.
>>
>> I would never drive a truck, they are WAY too big for me, IMHO.
>
>You could always sit on a telephone book. Tee hee.
>>
>> This rain sucks. My spiffy new craftsman 5 HP rear tine tiller
>> arrived (Sears sucked, but they finally showed up with it about 6pm,
>> so they don't suck anymore)...and I don't get to play with it for the
>> forseeable future--it rained on May 1--and the saying is if it rains
>> on the 1st it will rain till the 15th, all I got to do was uncrate it
>> and put it in the garage. it has GEARS and one of them is REVERSE!!!
>
>I just spent the last hour trying to get my brother-n-laws Mantis cultivator
>started.

Mantis' suck. Badly. I had mine into the repair shop for a starter
problem....cost about 60$, can't remember exactly what it /was/, but
it was due to shoddy workmanship.

....they're okay if you're going over pulverized soil, but other than
that they just SUCK.

>Did Sears have any decent deals on a small 2-cycle cultivator?

I dunno if the sales are still on or not.

>> Yes, Dan, I do have an impressive array of tools....especially for a
>> gurl. I don't think anyone ever has a complete set, though. Just too
>> many fun and fascinating power toys.
>
>www.harborfreight.com Good prices, good selection. free shipping.

I'm sorry, but Jim posted a link to DR tools and I can't stop drooling
over the Stump Grinder. Yeah....it's $3000....but it looks KEWL. It
powdered a 5' maple stump down to a couple inches under the ground in
30 minutes.

I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!

Jim Ledford

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May 6, 2003, 10:19:08 PM5/6/03
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Sharon B wrote:

[...]

> the Stump Grinder. Yeah....it's $3000....but it looks KEWL. It
> powdered a 5' maple stump down to a couple inches under the ground in
> 30 minutes.
>
> I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!

I think you'd like a portable saw mill.
it's kind of a stump grinder accessory :)

http://www.hud-son.com/bandmills.htm

Vapid Shell Me

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May 6, 2003, 10:41:57 PM5/6/03
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On Mon, 05 May 2003 16:35:00 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2003 18:03:43 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 13:27:00 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 15:36:41 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>[...]
>>>>Well, Truck Driving Cody, why are you pretending to be Country Girl
>>>>Sharon?
>>>
>>>Because today is not the first Tuesday of a month that ends in "Y" in
>>>an odd year, on which I am Taylor Netscum.....Cipher is me when I am
>>>Taylor.
>>
>>So, who's playing Sobolewki this week?
>
>We all are. Like a violin.

Are you sure that's where the bow is supposed to go? <g>

Of course, that may explain the squealing sounds.

>>That's got to be a cartoon character.
>>
>>I picture Barney Fife chasing women down a wooden sidewalk screeching
>>"Gift of my will, gift of my will!"
>
>*snarf*

Did you read it with "will" having two syllables? That makes it more
special.

>>>It's all scientifically drawn out on charts with cue cards and sticky
>>>notes, you know.
>>
>>Hopefully stuck to your monitors for ease of access and to limit
>>possible confusion of characters during alternations.
>
>It gets confusing. Once we had a "Everyone is Skippy Day"
>[one of thorne's aliases http://www.lart.com/thornefaq.html]

I can see how that would be entertaining. Got a link?

snippage:

>>Was it the Sesame Street reference or the glory hole reference?
>>
>>I was quite pleased to get both of those in an acceptable context in
>>the *same* message.
>
>It was the entire thing....from Dan's layup to your double swoosh.
>Poetry in printed prose, it was.....some FINE UPA. Brought a tear to
>my eye, reminiscent of some of Menjy and The 2-Belo's works. I'm sure
>it whizzed right over Mark's nob, all 140 of it.

Does this come with any sort of golden award with my name and date
ingraved upon it?

VSM - otherwise it's all meaningless. And I'm not sharing this award
with Dan, I don't care how much he thinks he deserves it.

Sharon B

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On Tue, 06 May 2003 22:19:08 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>Sharon B wrote:

Yikes....that is *way* too much tool for me. I had to get rid of the
McCullough with the 36"(?) bar for that very reason.

You know what else is on my Xmas list? One of those wood burning
furnaces....it's in it's own fireproof building adjacent to the home
with ducts piping the heat in....you load it once every 3 days or so.
My 71-yo neighbor has one in his basement that he built himself, but
of course, it doesn't hold 3 days worth of wood.

<wondering if that could be a makeshift crematorium....>

Sharon B

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On Wed, 07 May 2003 02:41:57 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2003 16:35:00 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 18:03:43 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 13:27:00 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 15:36:41 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>[...]
>>>>>Well, Truck Driving Cody, why are you pretending to be Country Girl
>>>>>Sharon?
>>>>
>>>>Because today is not the first Tuesday of a month that ends in "Y" in
>>>>an odd year, on which I am Taylor Netscum.....Cipher is me when I am
>>>>Taylor.
>>>
>>>So, who's playing Sobolewki this week?
>>
>>We all are. Like a violin.
>
>Are you sure that's where the bow is supposed to go? <g>
>
>Of course, that may explain the squealing sounds.

*sniff*
It is hardly *our* fault if he doesn't look before plopping his flabby
arse down.

>>>That's got to be a cartoon character.
>>>
>>>I picture Barney Fife chasing women down a wooden sidewalk screeching
>>>"Gift of my will, gift of my will!"
>>
>>*snarf*
>
>Did you read it with "will" having two syllables? That makes it more
>special.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
But of course....with Gomer Pyle's voice, you remember the scene where
Gomer is running around Barney yelling "Citizen's Arrest!! Citizen's
Arrest!!"

I lurve that show. I heard Aunt Bea went mad, and believed she really
was Aunt Bea.

[...]


>>It gets confusing. Once we had a "Everyone is Skippy Day"
>>[one of thorne's aliases http://www.lart.com/thornefaq.html]
>
>I can see how that would be entertaining. Got a link?

Nah, it covered at least three ngs. Everyone is Chaney might be
pretty fun....it requires obsessed participation by the frog-ee.

[...]


>>It was the entire thing....from Dan's layup to your double swoosh.
>>Poetry in printed prose, it was.....some FINE UPA. Brought a tear to
>>my eye, reminiscent of some of Menjy and The 2-Belo's works. I'm sure
>>it whizzed right over Mark's nob, all 140 of it.
>
>Does this come with any sort of golden award with my name and date
>ingraved upon it?

Sorry. But if you get the soc.fr00ts to plonk you, you can get a
Circle of Usenet Valhalla, where you will receive a Horned Vjiking
Helmet and GIANT Turkey Drumstick....and access to the mead.

>VSM - otherwise it's all meaningless. And I'm not sharing this award
>with Dan, I don't care how much he thinks he deserves it.

The Straight Man is important.

SB - still jealous of your double rack and ability to walk/run several
miles per day.

John Fereira

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May 7, 2003, 6:08:04 PM5/7/03
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Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
news:vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com:

I must of phrased that poorly. I was talking comparitively. The point I
was trying to make was that the difference between store bought strawberries
and garden grown is greater than, say, the difference between store bought
lettuce and garden grown lettuce. I don't have enough room in the yard for
much of a veggie garden but fortunately we've got a thriving farmers market
where I can get some pretty decent vegetables. There are lots of farms in
the area where I can buy direct, especially for sweet corn and some brussel
sproats "on the vine" that make store bought sprouts taste like cardboard.
I also buy chicken, lamb, and pork direct from a local farm. It's actually
called McDonalds Farm (http://www.pasturepride.com/)

Sharon B

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May 7, 2003, 7:34:54 PM5/7/03
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Sharon B

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*sniff*
well...okay...lettuce is lettuce.

>I don't have enough room in the yard for
>much of a veggie garden but fortunately we've got a thriving farmers market
>where I can get some pretty decent vegetables. There are lots of farms in
>the area where I can buy direct, especially for sweet corn and some brussel
>sproats "on the vine"

Huh?
<tongue in cheek>
Mine always grew on a stalk, usually getting about 2' tall before the
frost killed 'em.

>that make store bought sprouts taste like cardboard.

I've tried for three years running to grow brussel sprouts with very,
very poor results each time(:-

<yeah...another brussel sprouts lover!>

>I also buy chicken, lamb, and pork direct from a local farm. It's actually
>called McDonalds Farm (http://www.pasturepride.com/)

HAHAHAHAHAHA
ya hafta laugh at the name. I be jealous...AFAIK all we have that
sells direct like that is a Tewes' Turkey Farm (they have other
poultry, too).

Jim Ledford

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May 7, 2003, 8:24:27 PM5/7/03
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John Fereira wrote:

> Sharon B wrote:
> > John Fereira wrote:
> >> Sharon B wrote:
> >>> Vapid Shell Me wrote:
> >>>> tom calwell wrote:
> >>>>> Vapid Shell Me wrote:
> >>>>>> Sharon B aka """cody""" wrote:

when I read what you said John, I felt like you left the
words 'farmers market' out and only used the word 'store'.
that's why I decided to wait and watch to see where this went.


> sproats "on the vine" that make store bought sprouts taste like cardboard.

yep.

> I also buy chicken, lamb, and pork direct from a local farm. It's actually
> called McDonalds Farm (http://www.pasturepride.com/)

I remember when you told me about McDonalds Farm.
I thought that was pretty cool.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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May 7, 2003, 9:21:53 PM5/7/03
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In article <sdphbv47653b3gqb0...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 07 May 2003 02:41:57 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 16:35:00 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:

>>>It gets confusing. Once we had a "Everyone is Skippy Day"
>>>[one of thorne's aliases http://www.lart.com/thornefaq.html]
>
>>I can see how that would be entertaining. Got a link?

>Nah, it covered at least three ngs. Everyone is Chaney might be
>pretty fun....it requires obsessed participation by the frog-ee.

>>>It was the entire thing....from Dan's layup to your double swoosh.

Nothin' but Netnews!

Got a message id for one of them so I can trace it back? I am not sure
I saw all that in my hiatus from usenet and I would not want to miss it!

>>>Poetry in printed prose, it was.....some FINE UPA. Brought a tear to
>>>my eye, reminiscent of some of Menjy and The 2-Belo's works. I'm sure
>>>it whizzed right over Mark's nob, all 140 of it.
>
>>Does this come with any sort of golden award with my name and date
>>ingraved upon it?

>Sorry. But if you get the soc.fr00ts to plonk you, you can get a
>Circle of Usenet Valhalla, where you will receive a Horned Vjiking
>Helmet and GIANT Turkey Drumstick....and access to the mead.

Hey, wow, the helmet shipment seems to have come in! Yee haw!

>>VSM - otherwise it's all meaningless. And I'm not sharing this award
>>with Dan, I don't care how much he thinks he deserves it.

>The Straight Man is important.

Deadpan Dan can do that quite well.

Charlotte

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com>,

No kidding. Store tomatoes (unless they are Romas or cherries) are
usually just unspeakably bad.

My mama taught me to buy at the farm stand if you didn't have homegrown
(which I probably won't ever except for cherry toms since the other
'maters I like are big beefsteak varieties and don't grow well here).

>ANYTHING i grow in Le Jardin de Moi beats HANDS DOWN anything
>available at the supermarket.
>
>*sniff*

I apparently have better markets here since some of the stuff is quite
acceptable :-).

NOT tomatoes, peaches, strawbs or blackberries though ...

Charlotte

Jim Ledford

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Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >> >> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:

[...]


> I like to drive 'em till they DIE :-)

back in 1986 I gave to myself from myself a brand new 1986 Toyota
4-Runner, candy apple Red! 4-Runner now has 317,000 miles on her
and still running strong with no oil consumption.

> [...]
> >yes, I got drowned on a grass mowing job yesterday. the job
> >site is 42 acres with about 17 acres to mow, so I can get a
> >few minutes ride on the lawn tractor away from the truck.
>
> A few minutes? Doesn't it take you all day long, or longer to cut it?

back in the old days before my new invention, it took
two 10 hour days, with NO goofing off.

> How wide is your lawn tractor deck?

deck on mower is 48 inches. with my invention I'm cutting
an 11 foot wide path. I went to the lawn mower grave yard
and got two 48 inch decks from old mowers that had been
discarded. reworked the decks and mounted one 12 HP motor
on each. Rigged up a tow bar to pull them behind the rider.
First time I took this contraption out in public everyone who
saw it thought it was cool beans for sure. I like the noise
it makes. Got one 18 HP and two 12 HP motors running at about
3200 RPM each, then add in the sound from all those high lift
blades, that would be three under each deck, and you got
something that sounds like it's about ready to take off.

the only problem with this rig is turns. the wheels on the
decks I'm pulling tend to dig in a bit. the solution is
going to be wheels that swivel 360 degrees on the front of
each pulled deck. got two from the grave yard so far and
the bud who runs the place says the next two in are mine.

[....]

> >> My spiffy new craftsman 5 HP rear tine tiller
> >
> >smart of you to buy a rear tine tiller.
> >the front tine will beat you to death
>
> [looks at bruises in diverse places]
>
> >and sometimes take you places you don't
> >want to go.
>
> *snarf*
> My garden's on a hillside, so usually that's over to one side...as in
> capsized.
> But I imagine the time or twenty it's pulled me across the yard was
> amusing to watch :-)

I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you, OK LOL

> [...]
> >recommendation from a motor head to you. you got a brand new motor
> >and I hope it's a Briggs & Stratton. Fill with 30 weight motor oil
> >to the correct level, run motor for one tank of gas, then change the
> >oil. look at the oil in the catch pan and I bet you'll see metal
> >flakes or shavings. doing this will make that motor last a long time.
>
> Ooohhhhhhhhhhhh....so *that's* why the manuals say to do that! They
> never said *why*, so I've always ignored it. Thanks!

if they said why, they'd have a big embarrassment for themselves.
back in the good old days motor parts were polished and then fitted.
cast parts are going to have a seam in them where the mold came
together. back in the good old days the burr, ridge or seam would
have been polished off before the parts were assembled to create a
motor. in the new more efficient yankee guy-type days, these burrs
are left on so they will become small pieces of metal in the motor
so the life of the motor will be shortened significantly, then the
yankee guy-types get to sell you another one. same type of thinking
goes into the manufacture of yankee guy-type automobiles.

if you really want that new motor to last? run the first tank of
fuel at half throttle and DO NOT work the motor. just let it set
there and run, then change that oil and look.


[...]

> >you'll find it most useful

[....]

> No, the handle is immobile.

bummed. that's when I'd use my welder and cutting torch
to invent and improve. go look at a Troy Built and you'll
see what I'm talking about.

http://www.troybuilt.com/BrandHome.jsp


> >> the side
> >> shield to keep the dirt from burying plants to the side will come in
> >> handy,
> >
> >yes a very handy feature indeed when cultivating for weed removal.
>
> Last year we had a drought, so I put newspaper and contractor's paper
> down around all the plants/between the rows with straw on top of that,
> and I didn't have to weed at all.

wife did the same thing on certain parts of the garden she did not
want to lose. worked well at keeping the limited amount of water
in the soil where the plant could benefit. that drought was right
out of HELL. I pumped my pond down to a mud hole last year trying
to save my crops. Mr. Sun and Mr. Drought beat me but good.


> <grin>
> I kin fit two bales of straw in my Bessie at a time, I've got six so
> far......and the co-op's last flat of June bearing strawberries.

strawberries are GOOD food! YES?


> [...]
> >we're doing the same thing here. My John Deere 4020 burns right
> >at 8 gallons of diesel fuel an hour and with that fuel consumption
> >rate I can't afford to redo to often.
>
> No, I guess not. Spring is always so pressured....trying to get
> everything in the ground between rainstorms, having to cut the grass
> twice a week cuz of all the rain.

if I'm right about the location then your soil is rich with
nutrients and dark in color. what we call prime dirt. I
bet you don't use fertilizers on your lawn? down here our
soil is mostly poor with a thin layer of top soil and acid
in PH. in the lawn care business we have to use the
fertilizers to get the rich deep green customers want.
giving the customer the deep green meant two cuts a week
with normal rain fall. I learned a new trick, "IRON"
will dye grass a deep dark green without the growth
surge you get with the 2.4 lbs of nitrogen / 100 square ft.
cutting the nitrogen back to 1.4 lbs / 100 square ft. saves
me money, avoids the growth surge, gets me back to one cut a
week and gives the customer a pretty lawn without risking
chemical nitrogen runoff. the only draw back to the iron
is, don't leave the granular product on the customers
concrete. when water hits it, it'll make a rust stain that
Ajax won't take out.

> >> Craftsman stuff ROCKS....
> >
> >I like their hand tools, wrenches and socket sets because when
> >I break them Sears gives me a free replacement. last week I
> >broke a 1 and 1/8 inch open end wrench. I was pulling on it
> >with a 4 foot long pull pipe when the wrench went PING.
>
> You know I don't know what either of those two are, unless the open
> end wrench is a crescent wrench.

a crescent wrench, or otherwise called a 'thumb wrench'
is the one with the spiral and when you turn the spiral
the jaws open or close to the size of the nut or bolt.
a open end wrench is a fixed size such as 7/16, 1/2, 9/16,
ect... these are open on the end and only grip the bolt
or nut on two sides much like a crescent wrench. a box
end wrench is like a closed circle in a fixed size. box
end wrenches are the best because they grip the bolt or
nut on all sides. you need both sets because you run
into situations where you can't get a box end on the nut
or bolt due to the location or some other obstruction.

> I have a friend that tilled a
> Craftsman something or other up, all rusty and stuff...no telling how
> many years it had been buried, took it in and Sears gave him another
> one.

some rented farm land located on the site of the Eagle Rock Civil
War skirmish can produce some neat rusty stuff that can be fun to
try and figure out what it once was.


> Their stripped screw head screw remover set is on my wish list.
>
> [...]
> >http://www.countryhomeproducts.com:80///drpehome.asp?mscsid=DUPULX1346SR9G3UDG9BA94N4L1W04RB&
> >
> >more toys! :)
>
> Their stuff is awesome....overpriced, but awesome. I also have the DR
> Trimmer....it's not self propelled, but it has wheelchair sized wheels
> making it able to be pushed up steep hills, even. Easy to 'string',
> easy to start. The wheels shift to either side and lock so you can
> push straight yet whack on either side if you want. Great tool. The
> only rub is there's a gas shut off lever, and if you forget to turn it
> off when you're done, all the gas runs out.....great on gas, btw.

the reason I know of their stuff is because I've rented the
brush mower to do back yard expansions when my tractor won't
fit.


> <yes, the new tiller is a briggs & stratton engine>

good little motors they are.

Jim

tom calwell

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Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14:17 -0500, tom calwell
><tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[...]


>Didn't we play on SN.general a bit?

nope.

I think I razzed you a bit about your ballot box on auk, though.

>I've purged recently, so I can't check (:-

why'd you go and purge?

><i knew purging was EVHUL and those 'thou must purge-ists' were
>minions of Satan>

I've never purged.


best,
Tom

Sharon B

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On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote:

>In article <sdphbv47653b3gqb0...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 07 May 2003 02:41:57 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 16:35:00 -0400, Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:

[...]


>Got a message id for one of them so I can trace it back? I am not sure
>I saw all that in my hiatus from usenet and I would not want to miss it!

Message-ID: <f741bce1.0304...@posting.google.com>, I think
that's far enough back you can go forward from there.

[Usenet Valhalla]


>Hey, wow, the helmet shipment seems to have come in! Yee haw!

Did you git that Evhul Bra thang?

>>>VSM - otherwise it's all meaningless. And I'm not sharing this award
>>>with Dan, I don't care how much he thinks he deserves it.
>
>>The Straight Man is important.
>
>Deadpan Dan can do that quite well.

Ha! He cracks me up....the way he just serves 'em up, and they lob
gracefully, near floating across the net then just drop and SPLAT!.

Sharon B

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May 8, 2003, 8:58:13 AM5/8/03
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On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:27:24 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote:

>In article <vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On 6 May 2003 22:42:21 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>>>news:3v5fbv8elbm9lr92a...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 05 May 2003 20:03:27 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>>>> wrote:

[...]


>My mama taught me to buy at the farm stand if you didn't have homegrown
>(which I probably won't ever except for cherry toms since the other
>'maters I like are big beefsteak varieties and don't grow well here).

There's a variety called "Juliette" that are egg shaped and tangy (I
like the tangy ones) and heavy producers, as well as Early Girl
(sometimes I've seen them as "earlianna")....they ripen *very* early
and are also tangy.

>>ANYTHING i grow in Le Jardin de Moi beats HANDS DOWN anything
>>available at the supermarket.
>>
>>*sniff*
>
>I apparently have better markets here since some of the stuff is quite
>acceptable :-).
>
>NOT tomatoes, peaches, strawbs or blackberries though ...

OMG...watermelon. MMMMMMMMM
....and red potatoes....MMMMMMMMMMMMMM

The sweet peppers I can't tell the difference on, but they're just too
pricy in the store given I can buy a tray of 4 plants for about $1.50
and get up to 20 peppers off each plant, and they're a zip to
freeze.....same with cabbage and pie pumpkin (of course, sugar pumpkin
tastes WAY better, too).

Have you tried any "pumpkin juice"? I've read several references to
it in Harry Potter, as if it was a popular British drink.

Giant pumpkins for jack-o-lanterns REALLY bite my azz at $5, when all
I'm gonna use 'em for is to carve 'em up. And they have such GORGEOUS
and HUGE orange flowers......as big around as a dinner plate.
*note to self: get some gourd seeds, for fall decor

Sharon B

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On Wed, 07 May 2003 21:46:10 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>Sharon B wrote:
>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> >> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> >> >> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>
>> I like to drive 'em till they DIE :-)
>
>back in 1986 I gave to myself from myself a brand new 1986 Toyota
>4-Runner, candy apple Red! 4-Runner now has 317,000 miles on her
>and still running strong with no oil consumption.

Hey...that's not rust and dings, it's CHARACTER

[...]


>deck on mower is 48 inches. with my invention I'm cutting
>an 11 foot wide path. I went to the lawn mower grave yard
>and got two 48 inch decks from old mowers that had been
>discarded. reworked the decks and mounted one 12 HP motor
>on each. Rigged up a tow bar to pull them behind the rider.
>First time I took this contraption out in public everyone who
>saw it thought it was cool beans for sure. I like the noise
>it makes. Got one 18 HP and two 12 HP motors running at about
>3200 RPM each, then add in the sound from all those high lift
>blades, that would be three under each deck, and you got
>something that sounds like it's about ready to take off.
>
>the only problem with this rig is turns. the wheels on the
>decks I'm pulling tend to dig in a bit. the solution is
>going to be wheels that swivel 360 degrees on the front of
>each pulled deck. got two from the grave yard so far and
>the bud who runs the place says the next two in are mine.

whoa. color me totally awed and impressed

[...]


>> *snarf*
>> My garden's on a hillside, so usually that's over to one side...as in
>> capsized.
>> But I imagine the time or twenty it's pulled me across the yard was
>> amusing to watch :-)
>
>I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you, OK LOL

oh, go ahead and laugh at me....i laugh at me all the time :-)

[...]


>if you really want that new motor to last? run the first tank of
>fuel at half throttle and DO NOT work the motor. just let it set
>there and run, then change that oil and look.

I will do that today....not like I can till or anything
<looks at 2 1/2 flats of June bearing strawberries and burlap sack of
of red seed potato>

[...]


>> No, the handle is immobile.
>
>bummed. that's when I'd use my welder and cutting torch
>to invent and improve. go look at a Troy Built and you'll
>see what I'm talking about.
>
>http://www.troybuilt.com/BrandHome.jsp

You know I looked at those....but the lady up the road who owns a
family-run mower repair shop (and I've known since I was a kid) sed
she repairs a lot of those whose transmissions got all fouled up from
hitting a rock, and didn't know whether or not they'd corrected the
problem.

[...]


>wife did the same thing on certain parts of the garden she did not
>want to lose. worked well at keeping the limited amount of water
>in the soil where the plant could benefit. that drought was right
>out of HELL. I pumped my pond down to a mud hole last year trying
>to save my crops. Mr. Sun and Mr. Drought beat me but good.

I'm sorry.....hope it's better for you this year. I've already heard
drought forecast for here. I am not in the habit of "watering" things
outside, up until about 5 years ago I had a cistern, and one just
doesn't /do/ that kind of stuff.....instead, one catches their wash
water in 5-gal. buckets when the washer empties and hauls that out :-)

[...]


>strawberries are GOOD food! YES?

Oh yah....I lost them /all/ last year, and had to replace them....most
of the everbearing are already ripening (in strawberry urns, so
they'll hopefully bear on the porch all winter). I'm gonna put the
June ones in the garden....if it ever stops raining.

[...]


>if I'm right about the location then your soil is rich with
>nutrients and dark in color.

Northern Kentucky, and yes it is....heavily mixed with clay if you go
deep enough, though.

>what we call prime dirt. I
>bet you don't use fertilizers on your lawn?

HAHAHAHAHAHA. No, and "lawn" is prolly a huge euphemism. It's a
combination of bluegrass, clover, violet, wild strawberry and other
assorted "weeds". What grows, grows....it is very green, though (or
colored, depending what's blooming)...I've noticed the soapwart (Sweet
William) has spread all over the place.

I find the blooming dandelion, violet, strawberry and soapwart a very
pretty spring carpet.

>down here our
>soil is mostly poor with a thin layer of top soil and acid
>in PH. in the lawn care business we have to use the
>fertilizers to get the rich deep green customers want.
>giving the customer the deep green meant two cuts a week
>with normal rain fall. I learned a new trick, "IRON"
>will dye grass a deep dark green without the growth
>surge you get with the 2.4 lbs of nitrogen / 100 square ft.
>cutting the nitrogen back to 1.4 lbs / 100 square ft. saves
>me money, avoids the growth surge, gets me back to one cut a
>week and gives the customer a pretty lawn without risking
>chemical nitrogen runoff. the only draw back to the iron
>is, don't leave the granular product on the customers
>concrete. when water hits it, it'll make a rust stain that
>Ajax won't take out.

<grin>
I confess to not understanding AT ALL those who are
so....um.....particular....about their grass, but I'm glad for the
sake of your business that they exist.

[...]


>> You know I don't know what either of those two are, unless the open
>> end wrench is a crescent wrench.
>
>a crescent wrench, or otherwise called a 'thumb wrench'
>is the one with the spiral and when you turn the spiral
>the jaws open or close to the size of the nut or bolt.

OIC...I always called those "adjustable wrenches", sometimes I call
the channel locks "adjustable wrenches" when I forget what they're
called. I also have a lot of do-jiggers and whozeewhatzits.

>a open end wrench is a fixed size such as 7/16, 1/2, 9/16,
>ect... these are open on the end and only grip the bolt
>or nut on two sides much like a crescent wrench. a box
>end wrench is like a closed circle in a fixed size. box
>end wrenches are the best because they grip the bolt or
>nut on all sides. you need both sets because you run
>into situations where you can't get a box end on the nut
>or bolt due to the location or some other obstruction.

Most of mine are open on one end and boxed on the other. I *prefer*
my socket wrenches, but those can't really double as a hammer :-)

[...]


>some rented farm land located on the site of the Eagle Rock Civil
>War skirmish can produce some neat rusty stuff that can be fun to
>try and figure out what it once was.

Kewl....any arrow heads?
[DR]


>the reason I know of their stuff is because I've rented the
>brush mower to do back yard expansions when my tractor won't
>fit.

Does it /really/ go over trees?
<*I* would call what they describe "saplings", cuz to me "trees" are
several stories tall and several feet around>

>> <yes, the new tiller is a briggs & stratton engine>
>
>good little motors they are.

I keep hearing that....I have a B&S chipper/mulcher, and it SUCKS. If
the pieces have any forked branches it hangs up, and most of the time
I can't start it to save my life. But mebbe it's just /that/ one, cuz
the rest--tiller, tractors, push mowers, DR's--start right up no
problem.

Sharon B

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On Thu, 08 May 2003 03:20:15 -0500, tom calwell
<tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14:17 -0500, tom calwell
>><tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>[...]
>>Didn't we play on SN.general a bit?
>
>nope.
>
>I think I razzed you a bit about your ballot box on auk, though.

HAHAHAHAHA
NOW I remember....you never did send me that $50 bux.

>>I've purged recently, so I can't check (:-
>
>why'd you go and purge?

Because after awhile Agent starts burping and farting if I don't.


John Fereira

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Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
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Now that we've got that settled lettuce get back to talking about your
melons.

>
>>I don't have enough room in the yard for
>>much of a veggie garden but fortunately we've got a thriving farmers
>>market where I can get some pretty decent vegetables. There are lots
>>of farms in the area where I can buy direct, especially for sweet corn
>>and some brussel sproats "on the vine"
>
> Huh?
> <tongue in cheek>
> Mine always grew on a stalk, usually getting about 2' tall before the
> frost killed 'em.


A stalk is actually a vine that is fatter and really short. Uh, oh. I
think all this crossposting from soc.men is causing me to redefine words in
an attempt to win an arguement.

>
>>that make store bought sprouts taste like cardboard.
>
> I've tried for three years running to grow brussel sprouts with very,
> very poor results each time(:-
>
> <yeah...another brussel sprouts lover!>

But only really fresh brussel sproats the come on the vi^H^H stalk. I like
to slice them in half, then brown some garlic in some butter in a pan and
sear them. Sometimes I'll sprinkle them with breadcrumbs or drizzle on
some balsamic vinigar. Yumm.

>
>>I also buy chicken, lamb, and pork direct from a local farm. It's
>>actually called McDonalds Farm (http://www.pasturepride.com/)
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHA
> ya hafta laugh at the name.

It's their real name.

> I be jealous...AFAIK all we have that
> sells direct like that is a Tewes' Turkey Farm (they have other
> poultry, too).

I haven't visited it but there's also another farm about 15 miles from here
that raises goats and sell fresh goat cheese. A few of the grocery stores
carry it.

shawn_p...@yahoo.com

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John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:

> Now that we've got that settled lettuce get back to talking about your
> melons.

100%

... Shawn Pickrell

Sharon B

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On 8 May 2003 18:49:04 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:

>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>news:116jbv4qgojer0e47...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 7 May 2003 22:08:04 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>>>news:vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 6 May 2003 22:42:21 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:3v5fbv8elbm9lr92a...@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 05 May 2003 20:03:27 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14:17 -0500, tom calwell
>>>>>>><tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B aka """cody"""
>>>>>>>>><sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford
>>>>>>>>>><jim...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

[storebought is NOUGHT the same as homegrown]



>> *sniff*
>> well...okay...lettuce is lettuce.
>
>Now that we've got that settled lettuce get back to talking about your
>melons.

Orange EWE gonna be sorry you arseked!

On one side we have the sugar baby--a small, early variety whose flesh
is very sweet and grows to about 8# with 78 days to harvest.

On the other side we have jubilee; a disease resistant popular melon
with firm, crisp and bright red flesh, oblong with dark green stripes
on a light green base, reaching >25# with 95 days to harvest.

[...]


>A stalk is actually a vine that is fatter and really short. Uh, oh. I
>think all this crossposting from soc.men is causing me to redefine words in
>an attempt to win an arguement.

you haven't had your KARS shots.
[Kook Airborne Retardedness Syndrome]

[...]


>But only really fresh brussel sproats the come on the vi^H^H stalk. I like
>to slice them in half, then brown some garlic in some butter in a pan and
>sear them. Sometimes I'll sprinkle them with breadcrumbs or drizzle on
>some balsamic vinigar. Yumm.

YOU COOK???? I be so jealous. All I do is nuke 'em, salt 'em and
butter 'em.



>>>I also buy chicken, lamb, and pork direct from a local farm. It's
>>>actually called McDonalds Farm (http://www.pasturepride.com/)
>>
>> HAHAHAHAHAHA
>> ya hafta laugh at the name.
>
>It's their real name.

It's still cute.

[...]


>I haven't visited it but there's also another farm about 15 miles from here
>that raises goats and sell fresh goat cheese. A few of the grocery stores
>carry it.

i HAD a pet billy goat. minions of satan, they are.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <fbkkbvoalfj31gigd...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>


[VSM takes a bow]

>>Got a message id for one of them so I can trace it back? I am not sure
>>I saw all that in my hiatus from usenet and I would not want to miss it!

>Message-ID: <f741bce1.0304...@posting.google.com>, I think
>that's far enough back you can go forward from there.

That's amazing!! Nicely done, all.

I saw bits and pieces when I was checking up through google. The
non broken plonker got it when I caught up, though.

If I'd seen it earlier I would have added "Pootility" to the
word cascade for Danno ... in honor of the gift of *his* will.

<sudden urge to go to the kitchen and make some hummus>

[Usenet Valhalla]
>>Hey, wow, the helmet shipment seems to have come in! Yee haw!

>Did you git that Evhul Bra thang?

Yes, Your Imperial Holiness, and it's lookin' good! Got it on right now.
Practicing my scales and my spearchucking. Nobody with a bucket of water
close. Life is good.

>>>>VSM - otherwise it's all meaningless. And I'm not sharing this award
>>>>with Dan, I don't care how much he thinks he deserves it.
>>>The Straight Man is important.
>
>>Deadpan Dan can do that quite well.

I noted Frans in there ... he's amazingly good at it too.

>Ha! He cracks me up....the way he just serves 'em up, and they lob
>gracefully, near floating across the net then just drop and SPLAT!.

Yep. I still need a Digest Service though.

You-all are hearing Barney Fife ... in my mind's ear I'm hearing
Marc as mIKE's mechanical parrot saying "Gift of my will! Gift of
my will! BWAAACK" when Marc consents to be played like that ...
which is pretty much whenever he hits the "Followup" key.

Bravi! Bravi!

CLB@Standing.O

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <vikkbvc8d91tr50ab...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:27:24 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com>,
>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:


On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:27:24 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote:

>In article <vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On 6 May 2003 22:42:21 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>>>news:3v5fbv8elbm9lr92a...@4ax.com:
>>>

[...]
>>My mama taught me to buy at the farm stand if you didn't have homegrown
>>(which I probably won't ever except for cherry toms since the other
>>'maters I like are big beefsteak varieties and don't grow well here).

>There's a variety called "Juliette" that are egg shaped and tangy (I
>like the tangy ones) and heavy producers, as well as Early Girl
>(sometimes I've seen them as "earlianna")....they ripen *very* early
>and are also tangy.

EGs are supposed to do well here in the fogbelt. I am going to grow
some Sweet 100s and Yellow Pears and some currant tomatoes and buy
my Brandywines and Marvel Stripes and Purple Cherokees at the Farmer's
Market in season.

Fortunately the excellent Tomato-Growing Country of my birth is
just the other side of the coast range ... and the farmers are
more than happy to come and sell it to us out on the coast. We pay top
dollar for Real Tomatoes.

>>>ANYTHING i grow in Le Jardin de Moi beats HANDS DOWN anything
>>>available at the supermarket.

>>I apparently have better markets here since some of the stuff is quite


>>acceptable :-).
>
>>NOT tomatoes, peaches, strawbs or blackberries though ...

>OMG...watermelon. MMMMMMMMM

I'm not much of a fan of watermelon but the occasional samples I
get at the farmer's market are quite tasty. (I like cantaloupe
again after getting some Real Ripe Ones at the FM.)

And the peaches and tomatoes are completely up to snuff, unlike
the sad specimens my coastal garden can produce. Still
occasionally miss the now-gone blackberry thickets around here
though ... nothing like walking outside and SMELLING blackberry
in the air.

>The sweet peppers I can't tell the difference on, but they're just too
>pricy in the store given I can buy a tray of 4 plants for about $1.50
>and get up to 20 peppers off each plant, and they're a zip to
>freeze.....

Must say I'm shocked when I go pepper-shopping in other parts of
the country and see the cost ... sweet peppers don't grow well
here either, they need more heat to ripen than we get on the coast,
but I'm told hot peppers should do just fine, so I'll probably grow
some of them to have them around for salsa making and the like. And
the sweet peppers grow over the hills where it's hot in summer.

I will have limited time so am going to concentrate on things
that are easy to grow here but expensive to buy or tough to
find ... perennials (rhubarb, asparagus, artichoke) are good ...
and mesclun so I can have a constant supply of fresh salad
greens.

>same with cabbage and pie pumpkin (of course, sugar pumpkin
>tastes WAY better, too).

Huh, should try some FM cabbage when the time comes.

>Have you tried any "pumpkin juice"? I've read several references to
>it in Harry Potter, as if it was a popular British drink.

Never saw it when I was in the Yook,or here, so I think Rowling is being
fictional. (Butterbeer sounds like good stuff to me. Heh.)

I'm not remembering off the top of my head if there is some
transatlantic difference (e.g. "pumpkin" there = "winter squash"
here, not just what we call pumpkins).

Pumpkin seeds, however, are a mighty tasty snack toasted. Pepitas!
Can be used in moles as well.

Charlotte

Sharon B

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On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:17:06 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9fa42$sva$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>In article <vikkbvc8d91tr50ab...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:27:24 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>
>
>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:27:24 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com>,
>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>On 6 May 2003 22:42:21 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>>>>news:3v5fbv8elbm9lr92a...@4ax.com:

[early girl tomatoes]


>EGs are supposed to do well here in the fogbelt. I am going to grow
>some Sweet 100s and Yellow Pears and some currant tomatoes and buy
>my Brandywines and Marvel Stripes and Purple Cherokees at the Farmer's
>Market in season.

I think it's like the white/yellow corn thang....some people prefer
sweet (low acid) tomatoes, others prefer the tangy (high acid)
variety. I know I eat tomatoes by the DOZENS....per day, when they're
in season :-)
<and I mean REAL 'maters, not that crap in the store>

>Fortunately the excellent Tomato-Growing Country of my birth is
>just the other side of the coast range ... and the farmers are
>more than happy to come and sell it to us out on the coast. We pay top
>dollar for Real Tomatoes.

Feh. Our FAKE ones cost top dollar
<pout>

[...]


>>OMG...watermelon. MMMMMMMMM
>
>I'm not much of a fan of watermelon but the occasional samples I
>get at the farmer's market are quite tasty. (I like cantaloupe
>again after getting some Real Ripe Ones at the FM.)

I have a recipe for cantaloupe ice cream, if you want it.

>And the peaches

now you're making me cry....my last peach tree died a couple years ago

>and tomatoes are completely up to snuff, unlike
>the sad specimens my coastal garden can produce. Still
>occasionally miss the now-gone blackberry thickets around here
>though ... nothing like walking outside and SMELLING blackberry
>in the air.

I can't recall ever smelling them, possibly because the ones here are
wild. It takes 1-2 hours/day to harvest them in July, when they
ripen.

[...]


>Must say I'm shocked when I go pepper-shopping in other parts of
>the country and see the cost ... sweet peppers don't grow well
>here either, they need more heat to ripen than we get on the coast,
>but I'm told hot peppers should do just fine,

If the hot peppers grow, there's no reason the sweet ones /won't/.

>so I'll probably grow
>some of them to have them around for salsa making and the like.

Mmmm..fresh salsa.....mmmmmm.

[...]


>I will have limited time so am going to concentrate on things
>that are easy to grow here but expensive to buy or tough to
>find ... perennials (rhubarb, asparagus, artichoke) are good ...

You know asparagus takes a REALLY long time, right? I mean YEARS to
establish a proper bed.

[...]


>Huh, should try some FM cabbage when the time comes.

What is FM cabbage?

[...]


>I'm not remembering off the top of my head if there is some
>transatlantic difference (e.g. "pumpkin" there = "winter squash"
>here, not just what we call pumpkins).

Anyone English in here?

>Pumpkin seeds, however, are a mighty tasty snack toasted. Pepitas!
>Can be used in moles as well.

Huh? what's a pepita and how does it repel moles???????

I HAVE MOLES LEMME TELL YA! Frelling 17 year locust larvae are
inching their way up to the surface providing them with a food source,
so their population has skyrocketed.

Sharon B

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On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:13:51 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9f9tv$su3$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>In article <fbkkbvoalfj31gigd...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:

[...]


><sudden urge to go to the kitchen and make some hummus>

What is hummus?

>[Usenet Valhalla]
>>>Hey, wow, the helmet shipment seems to have come in! Yee haw!
>
>>Did you git that Evhul Bra thang?
>
>Yes, Your Imperial Holiness, and it's lookin' good! Got it on right now.

Eeew! Ick Ick Ewww!!! Spring forth and BE FREE!!!!

NOTHING GOOD can come from those accursed implements of
torture.....MARK MY WORDS!!!!!

>Practicing my scales and my spearchucking. Nobody with a bucket of water
>close. Life is good.

Them guys are so randy....and whoppin' 'em up side the head does no
good, cuz they like that. They REALLY like spankin's.


Charlotte L. Blackmer

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May 9, 2003, 9:58:02 AM5/9/03
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In article <9s6nbv4rhi10a9o08...@4ax.com>,

Occasionally a real one makes it to the supermarket but after having been
around about a bazillion trucks loaded up with tomatoes on the highways
and byways I know my chances aren't good.

The good ones that the truck farmers don't sell usually go straight to the
cannery. (Used to get calls for it when my phone was one digit off.)

>[...]
>>>OMG...watermelon. MMMMMMMMM
>>
>>I'm not much of a fan of watermelon but the occasional samples I
>>get at the farmer's market are quite tasty. (I like cantaloupe
>>again after getting some Real Ripe Ones at the FM.)
>
>I have a recipe for cantaloupe ice cream, if you want it.
>
>>And the peaches
>
>now you're making me cry....my last peach tree died a couple years ago

I actually took mine out since it was subpar. I'm going to put a Meyer
lemon in there instead and get my nectarines from the farmer's
market. Those are good peaches. My first residence was a town surrounded
by peach orchards so my standards are pretty high. (Mom bought, and
buys, peaches from farmstands too.)

>>and tomatoes are completely up to snuff, unlike
>>the sad specimens my coastal garden can produce. Still
>>occasionally miss the now-gone blackberry thickets around here
>>though ... nothing like walking outside and SMELLING blackberry
>>in the air.
>
>I can't recall ever smelling them, possibly because the ones here are
>wild. It takes 1-2 hours/day to harvest them in July, when they
>ripen.

When I still had my blackberry jungle (himalaya berries are a weed
here) my dad spent one of his august birthdays happily blackberrying in my
back yard.

>[...]
>>Must say I'm shocked when I go pepper-shopping in other parts of
>>the country and see the cost ... sweet peppers don't grow well
>>here either, they need more heat to ripen than we get on the coast,
>>but I'm told hot peppers should do just fine,
>
>If the hot peppers grow, there's no reason the sweet ones /won't/.

General rule is that sweet things require heat, as in a hot summer, to
sweeten up. The hot summer is what we don't have in the fogbelt.

Example: oranges and lemons can both be grown here as far as the
temperatures go (indeed, orange varieties are more cold-hardy than
lemons) but lemons are far, far more successful.

>>so I'll probably grow
>>some of them to have them around for salsa making and the like.
>
>Mmmm..fresh salsa.....mmmmmm.

Be nice to have a supply of jalepenos and cilantro/parsley constantly
around for Winging It.

>[...]
>>I will have limited time so am going to concentrate on things
>>that are easy to grow here but expensive to buy or tough to
>>find ... perennials (rhubarb, asparagus, artichoke) are good ...
>
>You know asparagus takes a REALLY long time, right? I mean YEARS to
>establish a proper bed.

It will all happen eventually.

>[...]
>>Huh, should try some FM cabbage when the time comes.
>
>What is FM cabbage?

Farmer's market.

>[...]
>>I'm not remembering off the top of my head if there is some
>>transatlantic difference (e.g. "pumpkin" there = "winter squash"
>>here, not just what we call pumpkins).
>
>Anyone English in here?
>
>>Pumpkin seeds, however, are a mighty tasty snack toasted. Pepitas!
>>Can be used in moles as well.
>
>Huh? what's a pepita and how does it repel moles???????

Got me on that! I was thinking the culinary mole.

>I HAVE MOLES LEMME TELL YA! Frelling 17 year locust larvae are
>inching their way up to the surface providing them with a food source,
>so their population has skyrocketed.

Sorry to hear that.

Charlotte (brown snails are the #1 pest out here in deer-free areas)


John Fereira

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Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
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I don't cook that often but every once in awhile feel like trying to do the
gourmet thing. I too worked in restaurants when I was young and think some
of that might have rubbed off.

>
>>>>I also buy chicken, lamb, and pork direct from a local farm. It's
>>>>actually called McDonalds Farm (http://www.pasturepride.com/)
>>>
>>> HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>> ya hafta laugh at the name.
>>
>>It's their real name.
>
> It's still cute.

At our farmers market there's also a booth that is occupied in the late
summer that sells the most delicious cantaloupes and a wide variety of other
melons. They're called "The Melon Foundation".


Sharon B

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On 9 May 2003 12:22:10 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
<CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9gv5...@drn.newsguy.com>:

>In article <rh7nbvsgdl4iovils...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...


>>
>>On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:13:51 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9f9tv$su3$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>
>>>In article <fbkkbvoalfj31gigd...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>>[...]
>>><sudden urge to go to the kitchen and make some hummus>
>>
>>What is hummus?
>

>A middle eastern food consisting of finely crushed or
>pureed chickpeas along with an assortment of spices
>usually eaten with pita bread. Its pretty big anywhere
>where there is a community from the middle east.

You guys here are so culinary. Y'all make my cooking look like that
of a 6-yo.

[the men of Usenet Valhalla]


>>Them guys are so randy....and whoppin' 'em up side the head does no
>>good, cuz they like that. They REALLY like spankin's.
>

>Especially Mikey.

Suggesting Dr.Retribution apologize to and try to get along with
Richard the Stupid is not going to get him into Usenet Valhalla, but
it may get him spanked hard.

John Fereira

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"Charlotte L. Blackmer" <c...@rahul.net> wrote in news:b9fa42$sva$1
@blue.rahul.net:

I was leaving work a couple of years ago and just outside the Plant Science
building was a small pickup truck with the bed loaded with cantaloupes.
There are numerous small farms run by the university (Cornell has one of the
best Agriculture schools in the country and I work at the Ag library).
Anyway they must have been doing some experimenting with a variety of
cantaloupe and had grown a lot of them. They were handing them out to
anyone that wanted 1, 2 or more. I took a couple and they said, "please,
take more" but I only grabbed a couple. They were the sweetest cantaloupe
I've ever tasted.

>
> And the peaches and tomatoes are completely up to snuff, unlike
> the sad specimens my coastal garden can produce. Still
> occasionally miss the now-gone blackberry thickets around here
> though ... nothing like walking outside and SMELLING blackberry
> in the air.

Up where I was born there are still a lot of blackberry thickets. Whenever
I used to visit my grandparents I'd get in trouble for coming to dinner
without an appetite because I was out eating blackberries all day. We've
got a few blackberries here but they're pretty puny. I did some kayak
camping in the Adirondacks a couple of summers ago though and stayed on an
island that was loaded with blueberry bushes.


>
>>The sweet peppers I can't tell the difference on, but they're just too
>>pricy in the store given I can buy a tray of 4 plants for about $1.50
>>and get up to 20 peppers off each plant, and they're a zip to
>>freeze.....
>
> Must say I'm shocked when I go pepper-shopping in other parts of
> the country and see the cost ...

If you're ever curious about the cost of produce around the country in the
future I'll have a system I've been developing available soon (supposed to
launch July 1) that will answer all of your questions. The Agriculture
Marketing Service agency at the USDA has reporters all of the country which
writes daily, weekly, monthly, and annual reports which lists prices,
shipping quantities and other data related to cotton, dairy, fruits and
vegetables, livestock, poultry, and tobacco. These reports are submitted to
the central office and available to the public. I wrote a small script that
runs on their server which grabs a copy of each report and sends it to a
machine here. The web site allows the public to browse or search through
the list of reports and add them to a subscription list. The email
processor picks up incoming reports, finds out who has subscribed to it, and
emails a copy to them. There are currently 2000 reports available and about
700 of them which come in on a daily basis.

> I will have limited time so am going to concentrate on things
> that are easy to grow here but expensive to buy or tough to
> find ... perennials (rhubarb, asparagus, artichoke) are good ...
> and mesclun so I can have a constant supply of fresh salad
> greens.

One of the things I miss about moving from the west coast is the
availability of good artichokes. Living a half hour or so from the
artichoke capital of the world has it's benefits.

Jim Ledford

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Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Sharon B wrote:
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >> the Stump Grinder. Yeah....it's $3000....but it looks KEWL. It
> >> powdered a 5' maple stump down to a couple inches under the ground in
> >> 30 minutes.
> >>
> >> I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!!
> >
> >I think you'd like a portable saw mill.
> >it's kind of a stump grinder accessory :)
> >
> >http://www.hud-son.com/bandmills.htm
>
> Yikes....that is *way* too much tool for me.

you'd be amazed at how easy running one of these portable saw
mills actually is. hydraulics pick up the log and place them
on the run. hydraulics clamp the log in place. you the operator
have to decide what you are cutting ie: 2X6, 2X12, 2X16 and so
forth. set the blade, push a button and then walk the length of
the cut as the cutter moves itself down the run. as the blade
gets dull you walk slower. the person who catches hell is the
one on the other end of the saw mill pulling the lumber and
stacking it proper. you can work him to death or until he
says stop cutting I got to rest.


> I had to get rid of the
> McCullough with the 36"(?) bar for that very reason.

Hurricane Fran came buy back in 1996 and destroyed all three of
my chain saws because they were all three in the same tool shed.
the shed and it's contents were smashed down in the mud by several
giant pine trees that fell on it. I had a 28" a 16" and a cute
little 8". I really liked the little one because I could easily
climb a tree to cut some limbs with that one.

Hurricane Fran is the reason I know about these saw mills. when
FEMA got here to rescue the city people, FEMA told them to cut
their logs into 2 foot lengths, then stack them at the curb.
FEMA contracted just about every Buba-Bob and Billy-Bob with a dump
truck in the county to haul these to the world's largest chipper
shredder and they made mulch. what a waste.

Jim cut his damaged trees down and into 12 foot long lengths
and then Jim made lumber.


> You know what else is on my Xmas list? One of those wood burning
> furnaces....it's in it's own fireproof building adjacent to the home
> with ducts piping the heat in....you load it once every 3 days or so.
> My 71-yo neighbor has one in his basement that he built himself, but
> of course, it doesn't hold 3 days worth of wood.

I like the new smoke stack scrubber technology and how they take
some of the pollution out of the smoke.

> <wondering if that could be a makeshift crematorium....>

sometimes I look at a tool and wonder myself what else
I might be able to use it for.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <rh7nbvsgdl4iovils...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:13:51 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9f9tv$su3$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>>In article <fbkkbvoalfj31gigd...@4ax.com>,
>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>[...]

>><sudden urge to go to the kitchen and make some hummus>

>What is hummus?

Middle eastern dip made with garbanzo beans (aka chickpeas). Good eatin'
but before I found my current recipe I couldn't eat it 'in company'.

here's a good recipe:

<http://folks.harbornet.com/raneem/soup.html#Hummus>

These days I usually have it with something I call "middle eastern
chopped salad", which is Roma tomatoes, cuke, a yellow bell, a little
bit of red onion, kalamata olives, and parsley chopped up in fingernail
sized pieces and mixed together. Feta cheese if I have it. Lemon
squeezed over. That's probably lunch today.

I did buy some strawberries from the store ... it's high season and the
store is famous for produce. They are almost, but not quite as good as
fresh home picked. Helps that the strawberry fields are about an hour
away. Those things do not travel.

>[Usenet Valhalla]
>>>Hey, wow, the helmet shipment seems to have come in! Yee haw!
>>Did you git that Evhul Bra thang?
>
>Yes, Your Imperial Holiness, and it's lookin' good! Got it on right now.

>Eeew! Ick Ick Ewww!!! Spring forth and BE FREE!!!!

An Imperial Command ... okay, I'm not a SOCK MAN, but still.

*scrabble* *scrabble* *fling* *scrabble* *SPROINNNNNG* *fling*

Okay. I hope you're happy. I think the audience probably is.

>NOTHING GOOD can come from those accursed implements of
>torture.....MARK MY WORDS!!!!!

I keep telling you that proper engineering is actually really comfy.

Anyway I think there is a lot to be said for artful cover. And change of
scenery for the right audience. Anyway, with that model, they are less
tempted to do the waterbucket thing since it's PRETTY BOBDAMNED OBVIOUS
what I've got!

>>Practicing my scales and my spearchucking. Nobody with a bucket of water
>>close. Life is good.

>Them guys are so randy....and whoppin' 'em up side the head does no
>good, cuz they like that. They REALLY like spankin's.

Well, soc.sniggles has been good prep for that too.

Charlotte (Schoolmarm Emeritus ... heh heh heh ...)

Jim Ledford

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Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >> >> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >> >> >> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >
> >> I like to drive 'em till they DIE :-)
> >
> >back in 1986

[...]

> Hey...that's not rust and dings, it's CHARACTER

4-Runner is still in excellent shape, no rust and
the inside still looks almost new.

the 1982 Ford F-150 is my [Billy Bob Truck 娛M]
and has the rust and dents. :)

[...]

> >with my invention I'm cutting
> >an 11 foot wide path.

[...]

> whoa. color me totally awed and impressed

my crayon set only has 64 colors and awed and impressed
are not among them. how about a nice shade of green?


> >> amusing to watch :-)

[...]

> >I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you, OK LOL
>
> oh, go ahead and laugh at me....i laugh at me all the time :-)

ok then, maybe just a little. :)


> >if you really want that new motor to last?

[...]

> I will do that today....not like I can till or anything

good job!

> <looks at 2 1/2 flats of June bearing strawberries and burlap sack of
> of red seed potato>

yesterday, I went to my green house operation and pulled all the
little plants for my garden. Saturday I'm going to put them in. :)

tomatoes - German Johnsons
squash yellow and green
cucumber
broccoli
cantaloup

and from seed I'll be planting

sting beans
butter beans
white corn - silver queen
purple hull field peas
black eyed peas
navy beans

and lots of marigolds to piss off the insects :)


[...]

> >http://www.troybuilt.com/BrandHome.jsp
>
> You know I looked at those....

[...]

> repair shop

[...]

> problem.

you know, I had not thought of that. my el-cheap-o tiller is
v-belt drive, so when I hit a rock the v-belt slips.

[...]

> >I pumped my pond down to a mud hole last year trying
> >to save my crops. Mr. Sun and Mr. Drought beat me but good.
>
> I'm sorry.....hope it's better for you this year.

the money I lost last year was mine to lose. not so this year
and this thing could turn real ugly for me if I have another
complete crop failure. fingers crossed for rain. please.



> I've already heard
> drought forecast for here. I am not in the habit of "watering" things
> outside, up until about 5 years ago I had a cistern, and one just
> doesn't /do/ that kind of stuff.....instead, one catches their wash
> water in 5-gal. buckets when the washer empties and hauls that out :-)

last year before I had any idea I'd be pumping my pond dry I carried
my 1000 gallon tank to a friends house in Raleigh to water all her
flowers. with the watering restrictions in place on those city people
I sure caused a fuss. some neighbor called the water police.

> >strawberries are GOOD food! YES?
>
> Oh yah....I lost them /all/ last year, and had to replace them....most
> of the everbearing are already ripening (in strawberry urns, so
> they'll hopefully bear on the porch all winter). I'm gonna put the
> June ones in the garden....if it ever stops raining.

short cake, strawberries and coolwhip :)

> >if I'm right about the location then your soil is rich with
> >nutrients and dark in color.
>
> Northern Kentucky, and yes it is....heavily mixed with clay if you go
> deep enough, though.

if I were a rich man, I'd hire me about 1000 big dump trucks
to run back and forth. I'd have me a big bunch of that sweet
fine soil hauled down here. but I can only dream of doing that.

> >what we call prime dirt. I
> >bet you don't use fertilizers on your lawn?

[....]

> <grin>
> I confess to not understanding AT ALL those who are
> so....um.....particular....about their grass, but I'm glad for the
> sake of your business that they exist.

with the economy going in the flusher I don't know how much
longer I'll have this lawn care business.


[...]

> OIC...I always called those "adjustable wrenches", sometimes I call
> the channel locks "adjustable wrenches" when I forget what they're
> called. I also have a lot of do-jiggers and whozeewhatzits.

thang-o-ma-bobs! the properly outfitted tool
box will always have several thang-o-ma-bobs :)

[...]

> Most of mine are open on one end and boxed on the other.

for the money, that's the best set to buy.

> I *prefer*
> my socket wrenches, but those can't really double as a hammer :-)

yes. I always try to use a socket first, then move to a
wrench when the socket can not access due to obstructions.

the ratchet is not a good hammer.

[...]

> Kewl....any arrow heads?

yep, found some of those too.


> [DR]


> >I've rented the brush mower

[...]

> Does it /really/ go over trees?

walked over the saplings. used like a saw and pushed
slowly into small trees with a base of 2 to 2 3/4 inches.
if the tree did not bend DR was a no go and the chain
saw was then the tool of preference.

> <*I* would call what they describe "saplings", cuz to me "trees" are
> several stories tall and several feet around>

advertising can sometimes be deceptive with
subtle word differences. I wish they'd not
do that.


> >> <yes, the new tiller is a briggs & stratton engine>
> >
> >good little motors they are.
>
> I keep hearing that....I have a B&S chipper/mulcher, and it SUCKS. If
> the pieces have any forked branches it hangs up, and most of the time
> I can't start it to save my life. But mebbe it's just /that/ one, cuz
> the rest--tiller, tractors, push mowers, DR's--start right up no
> problem.

the one that don't crank right up, there is a reason
for that. like something is in need of adjustment,
tightening or replacement.

a large number of rope pulls to achieve cranking of the
motor indicates problems with getting the fuel from the
tank to the carburetor after the motor has been setting
like over night. check the rubber for cracks on the fuel
primer bulb, if equipped with one of those. a quick way
to test for problems the motor might be having with pulling
the fuel from the tank is to use a starting fluid. buy
starting fluid at auto parts store. use a one full second
blast of starting fluid directly into the air intake and then
pull the rope right afterward. motor should start on first
pull.
WARNING do not allow starting fluid to become the final solution
to the problem starting. 40 to 60 uses of the stuff will burn a
hole in the top of the piston. the stuff is a first cousin to
rocket fuel. starting fluid is a good trouble shooting tool and
a must in the winter on a cold diesel unequipped with glow plugs.

as for the performance of the the little toy chipper/mulcher,
well first off I think they are cute and the idea of lady
gardener's being able to make mulch from SMALL branches and
large twigs is also cool as well as useful. the last one I
used was powered by a pretty good running 4 cylinder 71 HP
gas burner. the man at the rental store said I could toss
8 inch center cut in. he lied about that. 6 inch was the
largest the machine could handle without a jam up. I sure
was glad it had a reverse for unjamming.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <9s6nbv4rhi10a9o08...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:17:06 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9fa42$sva$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>>In article <vikkbvc8d91tr50ab...@4ax.com>,
>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:27:24 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com>,
>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:

>[early girl tomatoes]
>>EGs are supposed to do well here in the fogbelt. I am going to grow
>>some Sweet 100s and Yellow Pears and some currant tomatoes and buy
>>my Brandywines and Marvel Stripes and Purple Cherokees at the Farmer's
>>Market in season.
>
>I think it's like the white/yellow corn thang....some people prefer
>sweet (low acid) tomatoes, others prefer the tangy (high acid)
>variety. I know I eat tomatoes by the DOZENS....per day, when they're
>in season :-)

Brandywines are a bit sweetish, but they do have a bit of subacid in
it.

Odd since I like a lot of other tart/subacid things. Have you had a
Spitzenburg apple? It's an old variety.

Much corn is really sweet these days even to my taste.

><and I mean REAL 'maters, not that crap in the store>

As I've said ... only romas and cherry toms are frequently acceptable
in supermarkets. I've been disappointed even at my produce specialist
in high season.

>>Fortunately the excellent Tomato-Growing Country of my birth is
>>just the other side of the coast range ... and the farmers are
>>more than happy to come and sell it to us out on the coast. We pay top
>>dollar for Real Tomatoes.
>
>Feh. Our FAKE ones cost top dollar
><pout>

Usually do in the store. Even in the middle of the damn tomato
fields. Seen it in Davis in August. It's truly bizarre.

>[...]
>>>OMG...watermelon. MMMMMMMMM
>>
>>I'm not much of a fan of watermelon but the occasional samples I
>>get at the farmer's market are quite tasty. (I like cantaloupe
>>again after getting some Real Ripe Ones at the FM.)
>
>I have a recipe for cantaloupe ice cream, if you want it.

I might ask when I get an icecream maker. Right now I'm Kitchen
Decluttering. The ices I make are going to be of the "freeze in a pie
pan" variety until then.

Coffee is the traditional homemade variety in our family. And when I was
in school we had a hand crank freezer so we only saw it about three times
a year - church ice cream social, July 4, and my dad/grandpa/great-uncle's
august birthday.

>>And the peaches
>
>now you're making me cry....my last peach tree died a couple years ago

I had mine removed. The peaches were subpar, not surprising given the
climate, and that I am about as picky about peaches as I am about
tomatoes. My first ten years were spent in a small town surrounded by
peach orchards (2 hrs drive from here). I can get real peaches from the
farmer's market, and about six weeks earlier, too. Although it sure was
pretty.

I'm putting a Meyer lemon (aka sweet lemon) in instead. I can buy Meyers
in season, and occasionally get gifted with some from my parents, but I'd
like to have a tree.

>>and tomatoes are completely up to snuff, unlike
>>the sad specimens my coastal garden can produce. Still
>>occasionally miss the now-gone blackberry thickets around here
>>though ... nothing like walking outside and SMELLING blackberry
>>in the air.
>
>I can't recall ever smelling them, possibly because the ones here are
>wild. It takes 1-2 hours/day to harvest them in July, when they
>ripen.

Himalaya blackberries are plenty wild around here. Unfortunately someone
developed the lot by the park near me and removed the canes, shortly after
I managed to eradicate most of them from my yard.

I (and my dad) miss blackberrying in my yard, but I don't miss the
jungle.

I'm probably planting some ollalieberries (and managing those canes)

>[...]
>>Must say I'm shocked when I go pepper-shopping in other parts of
>>the country and see the cost ... sweet peppers don't grow well
>>here either, they need more heat to ripen than we get on the coast,
>>but I'm told hot peppers should do just fine,
>
>If the hot peppers grow, there's no reason the sweet ones /won't/.

It's a climate thing. The general rule, as has been explained to me, is
that sweet stuff needs a nice hot summer to sweeten up. So tart/sour/hot
things grow better here in the coastal fogbelt. Sweet peppers to ripe
stage are marginal due to their temperature requirements.

As an example: lemons and oranges are equally suitable here from a USDA
zone, lowest-temperature standpoint. However, lemons will be far more
successful since they don't need to sweeten up - even the Meyers, which
are a Missing Link between lemon and orange, are still fairly tart.

Hmmm, wonder if Seville (sour) oranges will grow here?

The hot peppers won't be too hot because they need sun-heat to get hotter
but that's okay with me. I like a little zing and the flavor.

>>so I'll probably grow
>>some of them to have them around for salsa making and the like.
>
>Mmmm..fresh salsa.....mmmmmm.

It would be nice to have the pepper supply on the vine in summer.

>[...]
>>I will have limited time so am going to concentrate on things
>>that are easy to grow here but expensive to buy or tough to
>>find ... perennials (rhubarb, asparagus, artichoke) are good ...
>
>You know asparagus takes a REALLY long time, right? I mean YEARS to
>establish a proper bed.

It'll all happen eventually. I like how it looks too.

>[...]
>>Huh, should try some FM cabbage when the time comes.
>
>What is FM cabbage?

Farmer's market. Veggies and fruits I don't like as a rule taste good
when I get them there.

>[...]
>>I'm not remembering off the top of my head if there is some
>>transatlantic difference (e.g. "pumpkin" there = "winter squash"
>>here, not just what we call pumpkins).
>
>Anyone English in here?

I'll query my transatlantic sources.

>>Pumpkin seeds, however, are a mighty tasty snack toasted. Pepitas!
>>Can be used in moles as well.
>
>Huh? what's a pepita and how does it repel moles???????

Pumpkin seed ... usually when it's toasted and salted ...

and maybe if they don't like spicy Mexican food?

:-)

(Moles = complicated Mexican sauces. Most famous is the one that's brown
and contains chocolate as a savory flavoring, but there's a green one with
pumpkin seeds. Would have to look up the names.)

>I HAVE MOLES LEMME TELL YA! Frelling 17 year locust larvae are
>inching their way up to the surface providing them with a food source,
>so their population has skyrocketed.

Maybe you could put the Mexican food in the trap??

:-)

Snails are the number one garden pest around here. The beer in a pie pan
trick hasn't worked for me so far but I do usually wear boots in the
garden. :-)

Charlotte
(much more of a cook than a gardener)

Sharon B

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On Sat, 10 May 2003 20:00:41 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9jlp9$384$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>In article <rh7nbvsgdl4iovils...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:13:51 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9f9tv$su3$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>
>>>In article <fbkkbvoalfj31gigd...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>>[...]

[...]


>These days I usually have it with something I call "middle eastern
>chopped salad", which is Roma tomatoes, cuke, a yellow bell, a little
>bit of red onion, kalamata olives, and parsley chopped up in fingernail
>sized pieces and mixed together. Feta cheese if I have it. Lemon
>squeezed over. That's probably lunch today.

<grin>
Your cooking skills are way beyond my level.
In the summertime: walk out in the garden (or briar patch, or grape
arbor, or fruit tree)--reach out hand, put in mouth. Repeat.

Sometimes I get the two-handed action going....left hand pulling
weeds, right hand stuffing face :-)

>I did buy some strawberries from the store ... it's high season and the
>store is famous for produce. They are almost, but not quite as good as
>fresh home picked. Helps that the strawberry fields are about an hour
>away. Those things do not travel.

<wanders outside, wanders back in with a handful of ripe everbearing
strawberries....sticks out tongue and sez, "NEENER">

>>[Usenet Valhalla]
>>>>Hey, wow, the helmet shipment seems to have come in! Yee haw!
>>>Did you git that Evhul Bra thang?
>>
>>Yes, Your Imperial Holiness, and it's lookin' good! Got it on right now.
>
>>Eeew! Ick Ick Ewww!!! Spring forth and BE FREE!!!!
>
>An Imperial Command ... okay, I'm not a SOCK MAN, but still.
>
>*scrabble* *scrabble* *fling* *scrabble* *SPROINNNNNG* *fling*
>
>Okay. I hope you're happy. I think the audience probably is.

Oh, I'm sure THEY are :-)

Now....doesn't that just FEEL better?

>>NOTHING GOOD can come from those accursed implements of
>>torture.....MARK MY WORDS!!!!!
>
>I keep telling you that proper engineering is actually really comfy.

I sooo cannot take it. I had to attend a function and my outfit of
choice required one....I didn't recognize myself....things weren't
where they were supposed to be....and it feels 'constricting'.

/born free....as free as the wind blows..../

Now, remember....if you're going to the grocery store, toss an
unbuttoned button up over that tank top and cinch at waist....I keep
one of those in the car, too, in case of nipple emergency....next to
the shoes, in case of shoe emergency. An XXX large t-shirt doubles
for nipple and short-shorts emergencies.....and also makes a spiffy
swimsuit cover up.

>Anyway I think there is a lot to be said for artful cover. And change of
>scenery for the right audience. Anyway, with that model, they are less
>tempted to do the waterbucket thing since it's PRETTY BOBDAMNED OBVIOUS
>what I've got!

Nah, you just don't know them yet. They'll do it anyway. They like
watching the gurls run, and stuff.

>>>Practicing my scales and my spearchucking. Nobody with a bucket of water
>>>close. Life is good.
>
>>Them guys are so randy....and whoppin' 'em up side the head does no
>>good, cuz they like that. They REALLY like spankin's.
>
>Well, soc.sniggles has been good prep for that too.

Y'all have a fun group here :-)

Sharon B

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On 10 May 2003 11:24:04 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote in
<Xns93774B4A5C63...@132.236.56.8>:

>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>news:e1qlbvg62jdevri1m...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 8 May 2003 18:49:04 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>>>news:116jbv4qgojer0e47...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 7 May 2003 22:08:04 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 May 2003 22:42:21 GMT, John Fereira <ja...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>news:3v5fbv8elbm9lr92a...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 May 2003 20:03:27 GMT, m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me)
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:14:17 -0500, tom calwell
>>>>>>>>><tom_use...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>m...@dbtech.net (Vapid Shell Me) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 05 May 2003 11:21:29 -0400, Sharon B aka """cody"""
>>>>>>>>>>><sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:57:07 -0400, Jim Ledford
>>>>>>>>>>>><jim...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

[...]


>I don't cook that often but every once in awhile feel like trying to do the
>gourmet thing. I too worked in restaurants when I was young and think some
>of that might have rubbed off.

I'm sorry, but if you want Sobolewski to fixate on you, you're gonna
hafta lift weights. He only fixates on femmes who worked fast food as
teens.

[...]


>At our farmers market there's also a booth that is occupied in the late
>summer that sells the most delicious cantaloupes and a wide variety of other
>melons. They're called "The Melon Foundation".

HAHAHAHAHA
I LIKE quirky names.

Sharon B

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On Sat, 10 May 2003 12:18:47 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote in <3EBD2667...@bellsouth.net>:

>Sharon B wrote:
>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> > Sharon B wrote:

[band mills]
[...]


>Hurricane Fran came buy back in 1996 and destroyed all three of
>my chain saws because they were all three in the same tool shed.
>the shed and it's contents were smashed down in the mud by several
>giant pine trees that fell on it. I had a 28" a 16" and a cute
>little 8". I really liked the little one because I could easily
>climb a tree to cut some limbs with that one.

I've got a couple 8", but I prefer that triangular tree saw if I'm
cutting something small....unless it's a lot of small somethings.
It's just a PITA to hook up all those extension cords.

>Hurricane Fran is the reason I know about these saw mills. when
>FEMA got here to rescue the city people, FEMA told them to cut
>their logs into 2 foot lengths, then stack them at the curb.
>FEMA contracted just about every Buba-Bob and Billy-Bob with a dump
>truck in the county to haul these to the world's largest chipper
>shredder and they made mulch. what a waste.

WHY didn't they cord them up? I can't believe what firewood sells for
around here. My state is no better....they cleared a section for
roadway, and wouldn't let my 71-yo neighbor (or anyone else) on to
cut/haul the wood away....instead they bulldozed it into a pile and
torched it, where it burned for 3-4 days (in spite of getting rained
on).

>Jim cut his damaged trees down and into 12 foot long lengths
>and then Jim made lumber.

I be jealous of your skillz.


Sharon B

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On Sat, 10 May 2003 16:21:16 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote in <3EBD5F3C...@bellsouth.net>:

>Sharon B wrote:
>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> >> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> >> >> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
[...]

>> whoa. color me totally awed and impressed
>
>my crayon set only has 64 colors and awed and impressed
>are not among them. how about a nice shade of green?

That will work.

[...]


>yesterday, I went to my green house operation and pulled all the
>little plants for my garden. Saturday I'm going to put them in. :)
>
>tomatoes - German Johnsons

Need more, I've only got about a dozen--early girl/better boy

>squash yellow and green
>cucumber

seeds, poked thru the ground yesterday...I plant them three hills two
weeks apart thru 4th July.

>broccoli
>cantaloup
>
>and from seed I'll be planting
>
>sting beans

ah....bush beans, top crop...also every two weeks thru 4th July

>butter beans
>white corn - silver queen

yellow--sun gold, also every two weeks
[and a nice big trap for that 'coon I saw on my patio the other night]

>purple hull field peas
>black eyed peas
>navy beans
>
>and lots of marigolds to piss off the insects :)

<grin>
...and they're purdy. I plant onions in with the beans, dill with the
cabbage and basil with the tomatoes. Okra has beatiful cream/purple
orchid like flowers...I give my grandma and cousin the nasty okra
part.

NO WATERMELON?????????

The Japanese honeysuckle (noxious weed) are in full bloom....not as
strong a scent as the native vining variety..I lurve the vining
honeysuckle, but it's not out yet. When it blooms, the air is THICK
with the smell.....mmmmmmmmmm

[...]


>you know, I had not thought of that. my el-cheap-o tiller is
>v-belt drive, so when I hit a rock the v-belt slips.

the one I used to use as an attachment to the tractor [craftsman] had
a chuck key it would spit, causing the belt to pop....but the
transmission fouled *anyway*....first time I used it.

[...]


>the money I lost last year was mine to lose. not so this year
>and this thing could turn real ugly for me if I have another
>complete crop failure. fingers crossed for rain. please.

absolutely....once a week in the summer, BUT IT CAN STOP NOW....it's
been raining several inches a day for like the last 8 days. i'm on a
ridge top and it's downright swampy.

[...]


>last year before I had any idea I'd be pumping my pond dry I carried
>my 1000 gallon tank to a friends house in Raleigh to water all her
>flowers. with the watering restrictions in place on those city people
>I sure caused a fuss. some neighbor called the water police.

HAHAHAHAHA
I heard about them on the news last summer....cracked me up...."water
police"

[...]


>short cake, strawberries and coolwhip :)

<grin>
I generally just skip that first and last part.

[...]


>with the economy going in the flusher I don't know how much
>longer I'll have this lawn care business.

I would think you'd be allright as long as Scott's et al continue to
market the way they are (ie, create the demand).

as long as the advertisers can continue to convince people they /need/
that kind of lawn.....

I'm glad most of the neighbors gave up on that chemlawn thing...not
only was it stinky, but the frogs seemed to disappear about the same
time....they're back now, for the last two years they've been QUITE
the noisy ruckus at night. The Bob-White's have yet to reappear....I
used to be able to call to them all day long when I was kid.

[...]


>thang-o-ma-bobs! the properly outfitted tool
>box will always have several thang-o-ma-bobs :)

absolutely

[...]


>the one that don't crank right up, there is a reason
>for that. like something is in need of adjustment,
>tightening or replacement.

I had the Sears Ghod look at it when he came out, and of course it
started JUST FINE for HIM. I was thinking mebbe the pull cord was too
long for my arm length/height and doesn't allow me to get good 'umph'
on it.

[...]


>as for the performance of the the little toy chipper/mulcher,
>well first off I think they are cute and the idea of lady
>gardener's being able to make mulch from SMALL branches and
>large twigs is also cool as well as useful. the last one I
>used was powered by a pretty good running 4 cylinder 71 HP
>gas burner. the man at the rental store said I could toss
>8 inch center cut in. he lied about that. 6 inch was the
>largest the machine could handle without a jam up. I sure
>was glad it had a reverse for unjamming.

*sniff*
I want one like asplundh has. theirs NEVER seems to jam no matter
what they throw in it.

Jim Ledford

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May 11, 2003, 9:34:10 AM5/11/03
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Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:

[...]

> >Hurricane Fran ... destroyed ... chain saws

>
> I've got a couple 8", but I prefer that triangular tree saw if I'm
> cutting something small....unless it's a lot of small somethings.
> It's just a PITA to hook up all those extension cords.

mine was two cycle gas powered. drop-cord eeeewwwwwllll uck.

> >Hurricane Fran is the reason I know about these saw mills. when
> >FEMA got here to rescue the city people, FEMA told them to cut
> >their logs into 2 foot lengths, then stack them at the curb.
> >FEMA contracted just about every Buba-Bob and Billy-Bob with a dump
> >truck in the county to haul these to the world's largest chipper
> >shredder and they made mulch. what a waste.
>
> WHY didn't they cord them up?

best guess, city people were in shock at the damage to their
world, so they stood in line and did exactly what FEMA guy
with official FEMA hat told them to do. damn funny some of
that was too.

> I can't believe what firewood sells for
> around here. My state is no better....they cleared a section for
> roadway, and wouldn't let my 71-yo neighbor (or anyone else) on to
> cut/haul the wood away....instead they bulldozed it into a pile and
> torched it, where it burned for 3-4 days (in spite of getting rained
> on).

state does the same thing here. makes me
sick with their use up the world today attitude.


> >Jim cut his damaged trees down and into 12 foot long lengths
> >and then Jim made lumber.
>
> I be jealous of your skillz.

http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/lumber.html

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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May 11, 2003, 5:37:30 PM5/11/03
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In article <g10rbv8eo6ne2l28p...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 10 May 2003 20:00:41 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9jlp9$384$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>>In article <rh7nbvsgdl4iovils...@4ax.com>,
>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:13:51 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9f9tv$su3$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>>
>>>>In article <fbkkbvoalfj31gigd...@4ax.com>,
>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>>>[...]
>[...]
>>These days I usually have it with something I call "middle eastern
>>chopped salad", which is Roma tomatoes, cuke, a yellow bell, a little
>>bit of red onion, kalamata olives, and parsley chopped up in fingernail
>>sized pieces and mixed together. Feta cheese if I have it. Lemon
>>squeezed over. That's probably lunch today.
>
><grin>
>Your cooking skills are way beyond my level.
>In the summertime: walk out in the garden (or briar patch, or grape
>arbor, or fruit tree)--reach out hand, put in mouth. Repeat.

In summer the food itself does most of the work.

>Sometimes I get the two-handed action going....left hand pulling
>weeds, right hand stuffing face :-)

I used to do that in the blackberry patch. That would be a gauntlet
gloved left hand, too.

Lemons and sour cherries (remember what I said about sweet vs. tart) don't
lend themselves to that treatment, unfortunately.

>>I did buy some strawberries from the store ... it's high season and the
>>store is famous for produce. They are almost, but not quite as good as
>>fresh home picked. Helps that the strawberry fields are about an hour
>>away. Those things do not travel.
>
><wanders outside, wanders back in with a handful of ripe everbearing
>strawberries....sticks out tongue and sez, "NEENER">

I ate about a basket's worth last night standing over the sink. Pulled
one out of the bag, washed, hulled, popped in mouth. Repeated. A lot.

They were pretty good.

I exercised enough discipline this morning to wash, hull, and quarter the
rest in a bowl. But that was my second breakfast.

>>>[Usenet Valhalla]
>>>>>Hey, wow, the helmet shipment seems to have come in! Yee haw!
>>>>Did you git that Evhul Bra thang?
>>>
>>>Yes, Your Imperial Holiness, and it's lookin' good! Got it on right now.
>>
>>>Eeew! Ick Ick Ewww!!! Spring forth and BE FREE!!!!
>>
>>An Imperial Command ... okay, I'm not a SOCK MAN, but still.
>>
>>*scrabble* *scrabble* *fling* *scrabble* *SPROINNNNNG* *fling*
>>
>>Okay. I hope you're happy. I think the audience probably is.
>
>Oh, I'm sure THEY are :-)
>
>Now....doesn't that just FEEL better?

Just flappin' around ... actually no.

There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
next to my nips.

>>>NOTHING GOOD can come from those accursed implements of
>>>torture.....MARK MY WORDS!!!!!
>>
>>I keep telling you that proper engineering is actually really comfy.
>
>I sooo cannot take it. I had to attend a function and my outfit of
>choice required one....I didn't recognize myself....things weren't
>where they were supposed to be....and it feels 'constricting'.

I feel the same way about pantyhose and heels. Although I have some
sorta-comfy girl shoes now.

>/born free....as free as the wind blows..../
>
>Now, remember....if you're going to the grocery store, toss an
>unbuttoned button up over that tank top and cinch at waist....I keep
>one of those in the car, too, in case of nipple emergency....next to
>the shoes, in case of shoe emergency. An XXX large t-shirt doubles
>for nipple and short-shorts emergencies.....and also makes a spiffy
>swimsuit cover up.

I wouldn't have a nipple emergency, I'd eventually have a gravity
emergency, missy. I wear a C or D cup depending on where in my
cycle and where in my usual weight range I am and I'm an 8/10
not a 4/6.

Engineering *is* my friend. Anyway, I think mine looks hot and feels
great, so it gives me that little *spring* in my step that Cute Underwear
often provides.

>>Anyway I think there is a lot to be said for artful cover. And change of
>>scenery for the right audience. Anyway, with that model, they are less
>>tempted to do the waterbucket thing since it's PRETTY BOBDAMNED OBVIOUS
>>what I've got!
>
>Nah, you just don't know them yet. They'll do it anyway. They like
>watching the gurls run, and stuff.

silly wabbits.

>>>>Practicing my scales and my spearchucking. Nobody with a bucket of water
>>>>close. Life is good.
>>
>>>Them guys are so randy....and whoppin' 'em up side the head does no
>>>good, cuz they like that. They REALLY like spankin's.
>>
>>Well, soc.sniggles has been good prep for that too.
>
>Y'all have a fun group here :-)

Put your snacks together and enjoy the shows.

Charlotte


Sharon B

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On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>In article <g10rbv8eo6ne2l28p...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 10 May 2003 20:00:41 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9jlp9$384$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>
>>>In article <rh7nbvsgdl4iovils...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:13:51 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9f9tv$su3$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <fbkkbvoalfj31gigd...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:

[two handed action]


>I used to do that in the blackberry patch. That would be a gauntlet
>gloved left hand, too.

Ya know, I've found it best to do briar patches in the least amount of
clothes. For the non-familiar: blackberry briars have barbed thorns,
like a fish hook, even on the leaf stems and undersides of the leaves.

I go in with a (preferably silk) tank top or halter and silk shorts,
shoes and vaseline smeared thickly below knees and elbows (cuz the
briar patch is also the poison oak patch).....it's much easier to
detect the canes/leaves brushing against bare skin than brushing
against clothing and I can back away before I get hooked and
clothes/skin tear. Oh, and machete hooked to my waist for the first
pass thru of the season, pruning shears thereafter.....some of those
canes are >12' long and if the wind is blowing IT CAN GET VERY FUGLY.

>Lemons and sour cherries (remember what I said about sweet vs. tart) don't
>lend themselves to that treatment, unfortunately.

Mmmmmm. I lurve sour cherries. Unfortunately, the birds usually beat
me to them. My sweet corn is up! mmmmm...fresh corn of the cob.

Same with watermelon, ya gotta pick it first thing after sunrise,
before the sugar is pulled back into the vine for the day. Mebbe
that's why the watermelon you tried was just so-so.

[...]


>I ate about a basket's worth last night standing over the sink. Pulled
>one out of the bag, washed, hulled, popped in mouth. Repeated. A lot.
>
>They were pretty good.
>
>I exercised enough discipline this morning to wash, hull, and quarter the
>rest in a bowl. But that was my second breakfast.

mmmmmmmm Can you grow......KIWIS????

If you can, I'll be horribly, horribly jealous.

[...]


>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
>next to my nips.

silk?

[bras=BAD]


>I feel the same way about pantyhose and heels.

EEEEEKKKK gads YES BURN THEM....WOT a PITA

I don't think I even own any....garters & hose ain't much better.

>Although I have some
>sorta-comfy girl shoes now.

*snarf*
flats are back in style. I think I was about 19yo the last time I
wore heels...almost broke my ankle. Heels will cause
back/hip/knee/ankle/foot problems, too. Pantyhose contribute to yeast
infections.

I'm sure dem Evhul Bras contribute to some terribly health malady.

[...]


>I wouldn't have a nipple emergency, I'd eventually have a gravity
>emergency, missy.

Well, missy....a barbell and some bench presses will build pecs to
help hold 'em up! Pecs: Nature's Bra. Or so I've read. It's also
supposed to make them look bigger.

Bench presses are kinda fun...as are deadlifts and weighted sit-ups.
Squats JUST SUCK. But they're supposed to be Nature's Butt Bra,
so.....

>Engineering *is* my friend. Anyway, I think mine looks hot and feels
>great, so it gives me that little *spring* in my step that Cute Underwear
>often provides.

<grin>

[...]


>>Nah, you just don't know them yet. They'll do it anyway. They like
>>watching the gurls run, and stuff.
>
>silly wabbits.

I suspect it's the bouncing.

I suspect that's a Guy Thang.

>>Y'all have a fun group here :-)
>
>Put your snacks together and enjoy the shows.

<grin>
slides bowl of grapes and strawberries over

Sharon B

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On Sat, 10 May 2003 20:43:31 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9jo9j$3vt$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>In article <9s6nbv4rhi10a9o08...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:17:06 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9fa42$sva$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>
>>>In article <vikkbvc8d91tr50ab...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:27:24 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <vtlgbv09jgg9405ov...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:

[...]


>Odd since I like a lot of other tart/subacid things. Have you had a
>Spitzenburg apple? It's an old variety.

No. I think we only have 1/2 dozen or so different kinds in our
stores.

>Much corn is really sweet these days even to my taste.

If you pick it in the morning, it's sweeter than later in the day.

[...]


>Coffee is the traditional homemade variety in our family. And when I was
>in school we had a hand crank freezer so we only saw it about three times
>a year - church ice cream social, July 4, and my dad/grandpa/great-uncle's
>august birthday.

The new ones are very kewl....as easy as a bread machine. Dump in
whipping cream, milk, sugar, vanilla...turn on. Add fruit in the last
five minutes.

I'm a big fan of banana milkshakes in the summer....frozen banana,
broke in chunks, 1 cup milk, dash vanilla, whiz in blender.

>I can get real peaches from the
>farmer's market, and about six weeks earlier, too. Although it sure was
>pretty.

All the peaches I've seen for sale have been unripened. Blegh.
[...]


>The hot peppers won't be too hot because they need sun-heat to get hotter
>but that's okay with me. I like a little zing and the flavor.

radishes do the same thing....hotter and drier the ambient
environment, hotter the radish.

[...]


>>Huh? what's a pepita and how does it repel moles???????
>
>Pumpkin seed ... usually when it's toasted and salted ...

OIC. I tried that and giant sunflower seeds once, I think I must not
have done it right.

[moles]


>Maybe you could put the Mexican food in the trap??

Oh, you don't understand....there is no "trapping" them, with the
locust coming on soon, or even killing them in sufficient quantity
given their abundant food source (unless you're up for spending A LOT
of money).....and I mean ABUNDANT food source. When the larvae pop
out and start flying, you hafta drive with your windshield wipers on
to keep the glass clear of bug parts. Kids run around with gallon
milk jugs and collect them. Daily.

>Snails are the number one garden pest around here. The beer in a pie pan
>trick hasn't worked for me so far but I do usually wear boots in the
>garden. :-)

I've heard that broken glass around the plant will keep them
off....but I think I'd put a liner down, so the glass doesn't work
it's way into the soil. You don't want to use malathion or sevin?


Sharon B

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On 10 May 2003 13:22:38 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
<CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9jn2...@drn.newsguy.com>:

>In article <udppbvgqheseqg402...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...


>>
>>On 9 May 2003 12:22:10 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
>><CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9gv5...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>>
>>>In article <rh7nbvsgdl4iovils...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, 9 May 2003 04:13:51 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9f9tv$su3$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <fbkkbvoalfj31gigd...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On Thu, 8 May 2003 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote:
[...]

>>You guys here are so culinary. Y'all make my cooking look like that
>>of a 6-yo.
>

>I am sure you do fine. I tend to prefer simple stuff though
>I have been involved in the preparation of fancier meals
>usually just doing what the gf or wife (at the time) asked
>me to do.

<grin>
HUGE fan of the 'one pot dinner', am I. Less muss, less fuss.

[...]
>I think Sobelewski and the crew have been reading too many
>Gor novels.

<grin>
I have only the vaguest of acquaintances with that reference.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <3po1cvcsv3r8of63a...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 10 May 2003 20:43:31 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9jo9j$3vt$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>[...]


>>Odd since I like a lot of other tart/subacid things. Have you had a
>>Spitzenburg apple? It's an old variety.
>
>No. I think we only have 1/2 dozen or so different kinds in our
>stores.

I've never seen spitzenburg for sale.

>>Much corn is really sweet these days even to my taste.
>
>If you pick it in the morning, it's sweeter than later in the day.

I should become a picky shopper and ask when it was picked ;-).

>[...]
>>Coffee is the traditional homemade variety in our family. And when I was
>>in school we had a hand crank freezer so we only saw it about three times
>>a year - church ice cream social, July 4, and my dad/grandpa/great-uncle's
>>august birthday.
>
>The new ones are very kewl....as easy as a bread machine. Dump in
>whipping cream, milk, sugar, vanilla...turn on. Add fruit in the last
>five minutes.

I know, it's wild.

>I'm a big fan of banana milkshakes in the summer....frozen banana,
>broke in chunks, 1 cup milk, dash vanilla, whiz in blender.

Fancy-ass juicers can do cool things with frozen fruit. Look ma, fruit
ice!

>>I can get real peaches from the
>>farmer's market, and about six weeks earlier, too. Although it sure was
>>pretty.
>
>All the peaches I've seen for sale have been unripened. Blegh.

no farm stands?

>[...]
>>The hot peppers won't be too hot because they need sun-heat to get hotter
>>but that's okay with me. I like a little zing and the flavor.
>
>radishes do the same thing....hotter and drier the ambient
>environment, hotter the radish.
>
>[...]
>>>Huh? what's a pepita and how does it repel moles???????
>>
>>Pumpkin seed ... usually when it's toasted and salted ...
>
>OIC. I tried that and giant sunflower seeds once, I think I must not
>have done it right.

Me too. Will have to try again.

>[moles]
>>Maybe you could put the Mexican food in the trap??
>
>Oh, you don't understand....there is no "trapping" them, with the
>locust coming on soon, or even killing them in sufficient quantity
>given their abundant food source (unless you're up for spending A LOT
>of money).....and I mean ABUNDANT food source. When the larvae pop
>out and start flying, you hafta drive with your windshield wipers on
>to keep the glass clear of bug parts. Kids run around with gallon
>milk jugs and collect them. Daily.
>
>>Snails are the number one garden pest around here. The beer in a pie pan
>>trick hasn't worked for me so far but I do usually wear boots in the
>>garden. :-)
>
>I've heard that broken glass around the plant will keep them
>off....but I think I'd put a liner down, so the glass doesn't work
>it's way into the soil. You don't want to use malathion or sevin?

No need particularly. I'm trying to avoid the chemicals (roundup when
necessary for blackberries and bindweed). I have enough stuff I don't
mind their eating for "bait". Next step for me is that copper tape, I
think.


Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

[two handed grazing in the garden]


>>I used to do that in the blackberry patch. That would be a gauntlet
>>gloved left hand, too.

>Ya know, I've found it best to do briar patches in the least amount of
>clothes. For the non-familiar: blackberry briars have barbed thorns,
>like a fish hook, even on the leaf stems and undersides of the leaves.

They are sticky bastards.

>I go in with a (preferably silk) tank top or halter and silk shorts,
>shoes and vaseline smeared thickly below knees and elbows (cuz the
>briar patch is also the poison oak patch).....it's much easier to
>detect the canes/leaves brushing against bare skin than brushing
>against clothing and I can back away before I get hooked and
>clothes/skin tear. Oh, and machete hooked to my waist for the first
>pass thru of the season, pruning shears thereafter.....some of those
>canes are >12' long and if the wind is blowing IT CAN GET VERY FUGLY.

I usually went out in a long sleeve shirt, boots, and jeans. But the
climate here is such that long sleeves in summer are usually comfy.

Felco pruners in my pocket. The gauntlet gloves helped keep the sticky
things off lower arms. No snag.

I have a really super cool pair of loppers/long pruners now which would have
been nice then, but it sure helped with the fig tree. I might be able
to harvest most of them this year. The birds got a lot of the top ones
last year.

>>Lemons and sour cherries (remember what I said about sweet vs. tart) don't
>>lend themselves to that treatment, unfortunately.

>mmmmm. I lurve sour cherries. Unfortunately, the birds usually beat
>me to them.

not usually a problem with the resident cat population.

the sour part means the kids don't beat me to them either (tree is in
front yard, although the fence does conceal most of it now).

>My sweet corn is up! mmmmm...fresh corn of the cob.

yum.

[strawberries]

>mmmmmmmm Can you grow......KIWIS????

>If you can, I'll be horribly, horribly jealous.

I know there's a lot of commercial farming in the Central Valley. One of
my garden books says that low chill varieties can grow here. But most
people don't have a yard big enough for the vines.

I don't much care for them.

>>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
>>next to my nips.

>silk?

That's about number four on the list. *grin*

>[bras=BAD]
>>I feel the same way about pantyhose and heels.

>EEEEEKKKK gads YES BURN THEM....WOT a PITA

>I don't think I even own any....

I have a couple of black pair suitable for my formal wedding
and funeral get-ups (where tights won't work - now tights
I have no problems with).

>>Although I have some sorta-comfy girl shoes now.

>*snarf*
>flats are back in style.

I'm five-eight. Flats are never out of style in my book :-).

>I think I was about 19yo the last time I
>wore heels...almost broke my ankle. Heels will cause
>back/hip/knee/ankle/foot problems, too.

After the occasional excesses of my yute (I had a pair of 3" dress
sandals ... platforms ... people did notice how tall I was when I
wore them :-) I moved to downtown San Francisco and discovered the
Joys of Flats. But before that I had been stomping around in short
pumps (hey, I *could* ride my bike with them) and I have curly fries
for toes as a result of my being vain about shoe sizes. (Which I
don't recommend to anyone.)

Hated wearing any sort of open toed shoes (it's not much of an issue
in this climate, but still) till I started getting professional
pedicures. Toes are still misshapen but the polish job looks great.
Still prefer the more covered-up styles, though.

>>I wouldn't have a nipple emergency, I'd eventually have a gravity
>>emergency, missy.

>Well, missy....a barbell and some bench presses will build pecs to
>help hold 'em up! Pecs: Nature's Bra. Or so I've read. It's also
>supposed to make them look bigger.

Yep, it's on the list of things to do, once I finish with the Get This
Junk Outta Here! project that has been occupying much of my time and
energy. Doing some exercises at home for my abs and lower back, and
getting back on the yoga bus.

>>>Y'all have a fun group here :-)
>
>>Put your snacks together and enjoy the shows.

><grin>
>slides bowl of grapes and strawberries over

Thanks! (Grapes ... yum. Man, that's another Farmer's
Market or Backyard thing. Not any backyard in the immediate
vicinity, though.)

Lessee what I have on hand ...

hummus and assorted raw veg for dipping
guacamole and chips
truffles (that reminds me I need to make some more)
blueberry muffins (it is early)

As the official concessionaire for RIOT MONGER PRODUCTIONS,
I have developed a repertory of suitable spectator finger
food.

Charlotte

Sharon B

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On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:09:51 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9qubf$uk8$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

Oh, save your money...that doesn't work. It's only good till the
copper tarnishes (or whatever the term is for copper turning green),
which starts happening almost immediately outside.

I *think* I remember reading a mixture of hot sauce, couple drops of
dish soap and water in a pump sprayer works on slugs (and presumably
snails)....spray in the evening so the soap can dissipate, it
magnifies sunlight, thus burning the plant.

I use that for things like tomatoes that I harvest daily, cuz the
malathion and sevin have a waiting period after spraying (plus, they
give me a horrendous headache).

Sharon B

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On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

[...]


>I have a really super cool pair of loppers/long pruners now which would have
>been nice then, but it sure helped with the fig tree. I might be able
>to harvest most of them this year. The birds got a lot of the top ones
>last year.

What do you do with the figs?

>>mmmmmmmm Can you grow......KIWIS????
>
>>If you can, I'll be horribly, horribly jealous.
>
>I know there's a lot of commercial farming in the Central Valley. One of
>my garden books says that low chill varieties can grow here. But most
>people don't have a yard big enough for the vines.

I researched them, and the low chill ones (aragula? I forget) are
SMALLER than the tropical ones.

>>>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
>>>next to my nips.
>
>>silk?
>
>That's about number four on the list. *grin*

i am SO not gonna be trolled into asking you what #s 1-3 are.

I am fortunate that there are consignment shops specializing in
designer labels so I can indulge my silk fetish for less than clothing
costs at Kmart.

silk...mmmmmmmm

[...]


>After the occasional excesses of my yute (I had a pair of 3" dress
>sandals ... platforms ... people did notice how tall I was when I
>wore them :-) I moved to downtown San Francisco and discovered the
>Joys of Flats. But before that I had been stomping around in short
>pumps (hey, I *could* ride my bike with them) and I have curly fries
>for toes as a result of my being vain about shoe sizes. (Which I
>don't recommend to anyone.)

ouch. sorry.
shoes are Thangs of Evhul, they are
<although I *might* come to love silk shoes>

>Hated wearing any sort of open toed shoes (it's not much of an issue
>in this climate, but still) till I started getting professional
>pedicures. Toes are still misshapen but the polish job looks great.
>Still prefer the more covered-up styles, though.

oh, everybody hates their feet.

[...]


>Yep, it's on the list of things to do, once I finish with the Get This
>Junk Outta Here! project that has been occupying much of my time and
>energy. Doing some exercises at home for my abs and lower back, and
>getting back on the yoga bus.

mmmmmm yoga. it just FEELS good


Sharon B

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On 13 May 2003 16:07:40 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
<CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9rtr...@drn.newsguy.com>:

>In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...


>>
>>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>
>>>In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>

>>>>>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
>>>>>next to my nips.
>>>
>>>>silk?
>>>
>>>That's about number four on the list. *grin*
>>
>>i am SO not gonna be trolled into asking you what #s 1-3 are.
>>
>>I am fortunate that there are consignment shops specializing in
>>designer labels so I can indulge my silk fetish for less than clothing
>>costs at Kmart.
>>
>>silk...mmmmmmmm
>

>hmmmmmmm....

What are you "hmmm"ing about, you *don't* like silk? 100% cotton is
also very comfy.

[...]


>>oh, everybody hates their feet.
>

>Women. They have to find something to hate about their
>bodies.

Yes. I see *all* my physical flaws. I am my biggest critic.
I think it's a Gurl Thang.

>I don't know any men that hate their feet.

<grin>
You Guy Types prolly stress over other things that us Gurl Types
consider unimportant.

>>[...]
>>>Yep, it's on the list of things to do, once I finish with the Get This
>>>Junk Outta Here! project that has been occupying much of my time and
>>>energy. Doing some exercises at home for my abs and lower back, and
>>>getting back on the yoga bus.
>>
>>mmmmmm yoga. it just FEELS good
>

>Well sure, if you do it while wearing silk...

Heh. I like the way it breathes, and drapes, and slides over skin.
Silk is tres kewl.

Some conquering warlord (Attila the Hun?) used silk undershirts
beneath all his warriors' armor (leather, IIRC).....when they would
have flesh penetrated by steel, they were more inclined to survive
their wounds as the silk wouldn't tear leaving threads inside the body
to turn septic as was common with their opponents.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>>In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,
>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>[...]
>>I have a really super cool pair of loppers/long pruners now which would have
>>been nice then, but it sure helped with the fig tree. I might be able
>>to harvest most of them this year. The birds got a lot of the top ones
>>last year.
>
>What do you do with the figs?

Give them away, a lot. Sometimes I eat them with mascarpone. Still
contemplating options. Might make fig jam next year.

>>>mmmmmmmm Can you grow......KIWIS????
>>
>>>If you can, I'll be horribly, horribly jealous.
>>
>>I know there's a lot of commercial farming in the Central Valley. One of
>>my garden books says that low chill varieties can grow here. But most
>>people don't have a yard big enough for the vines.
>
>I researched them, and the low chill ones (aragula? I forget) are
>SMALLER than the tropical ones.

The hardy kiwis? Mebbe.

There's a lot of commercial growing around Chico, CA, which ain't exactly
tropical (USDA zone 8).

>>>>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
>>>>next to my nips.
>>
>>>silk?
>>
>>That's about number four on the list. *grin*
>
>i am SO not gonna be trolled into asking you what #s 1-3 are.

*pout*

>I am fortunate that there are consignment shops specializing in
>designer labels so I can indulge my silk fetish for less than clothing
>costs at Kmart.

That's not bad.

>silk...mmmmmmmm

mmmm is right. knit is my fave. all the comfort plus it goes in the
washer. winter silks has a lot of it and it's reasonably priced.

one of these days I'll get busy with the silk stuff I bought undyed from
Dharma Trading ... that was a deal.

Might find someone to make up trousers in silk twill for me. I had a pair
of those once and adored them. Now that I have a good pair for copying, I
should get busy looking. Again, I would need to dye the twill
first. Silk does take color wonderfully. I have a vintage dress that is
silk velvet and it is like the essence of red (as well as being oh so nice
feeling).

>[...]
>>After the occasional excesses of my yute (I had a pair of 3" dress
>>sandals ... platforms ... people did notice how tall I was when I
>>wore them :-) I moved to downtown San Francisco and discovered the
>>Joys of Flats. But before that I had been stomping around in short
>>pumps (hey, I *could* ride my bike with them) and I have curly fries
>>for toes as a result of my being vain about shoe sizes. (Which I
>>don't recommend to anyone.)
>
>ouch. sorry.
>shoes are Thangs of Evhul, they are
><although I *might* come to love silk shoes>

Hmmm. Shantung exterior ...

>>Hated wearing any sort of open toed shoes (it's not much of an issue
>>in this climate, but still) till I started getting professional
>>pedicures. Toes are still misshapen but the polish job looks great.
>>Still prefer the more covered-up styles, though.
>
>oh, everybody hates their feet.

The toes didn't use to be curly fries. But whatever.

>[...]
>>Yep, it's on the list of things to do, once I finish with the Get This
>>Junk Outta Here! project that has been occupying much of my time and
>>energy. Doing some exercises at home for my abs and lower back, and
>>getting back on the yoga bus.
>
>mmmmmm yoga. it just FEELS good

breathe ...

Charlotte


Sharon B

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On Wed, 14 May 2003 01:48:07 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9s78n$dt2$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>
>>>In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

[kiwis]


>>I researched them, and the low chill ones (aragula? I forget) are
>>SMALLER than the tropical ones.
>
>The hardy kiwis? Mebbe.
>
>There's a lot of commercial growing around Chico, CA, which ain't exactly
>tropical (USDA zone 8).

Hmmm. Maybe I *will* try them.

>>>>>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
>>>>>next to my nips.
>>>
>>>>silk?
>>>
>>>That's about number four on the list. *grin*
>>
>>i am SO not gonna be trolled into asking you what #s 1-3 are.
>
>*pout*

I cannot resist TWICE.

What are numbers 1-3 on your List of Things To Be Near Nipples?

>>I am fortunate that there are consignment shops specializing in
>>designer labels so I can indulge my silk fetish for less than clothing
>>costs at Kmart.
>
>That's not bad.

OMG..on their store clearouts (seasonal) you can get them for as
little as $1.

>>silk...mmmmmmmm
>
>mmmm is right. knit is my fave. all the comfort plus it goes in the
>washer. winter silks has a lot of it and it's reasonably priced.

Oh, I throw all my dry clean only stuff in the washer (well, not
suede).....just not the dryer.

[...]


>>>Hated wearing any sort of open toed shoes (it's not much of an issue
>>>in this climate, but still) till I started getting professional
>>>pedicures. Toes are still misshapen but the polish job looks great.
>>>Still prefer the more covered-up styles, though.
>>
>>oh, everybody hates their feet.
>
>The toes didn't use to be curly fries. But whatever.

I'm sure they're prettier than *you* think they are. Given the way
the guys reacted to your pic, I somehow don't think they'd even notice
your toes :-)

>>[...]
>>>Yep, it's on the list of things to do, once I finish with the Get This
>>>Junk Outta Here! project that has been occupying much of my time and
>>>energy. Doing some exercises at home for my abs and lower back, and
>>>getting back on the yoga bus.
>>
>>mmmmmm yoga. it just FEELS good
>
>breathe ...

..thru the nose, of course.

Allisson

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In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>>In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,
>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

[...]

>>>>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about


>>>>next to my nips.
>>
>>>silk?
>>
>>That's about number four on the list. *grin*
>
>i am SO not gonna be trolled into asking you what #s 1-3 are.
>
>I am fortunate that there are consignment shops specializing in
>designer labels so I can indulge my silk fetish for less than clothing
>costs at Kmart.
>
>silk...mmmmmmmm

Hey, care to take a tourist on a tour of those consignment shops?

It would be a worthwhile day trip down to the Cincinatti area or
are you closer to "Lou'vel", even closer? That is something
I miss being further away from a real metropolis. On LI, there
were many people who worked in Manhatten, so the consignment
shops were stocked with good quality things.

I have a wonderful silk Talbot's silk lined pant suit, for which
I think I paid less than $10.00 at a similar venue.


Alli
--
- "You can't hold a man down without staying down with him"
--------this is Allisson Seiler's Signature file-----
- Booker T. Washington

Sharon B

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On 14 May 2003 08:55:10 -0400, alli...@panix.com (Allisson) wrote in
<b9tebe$e29$1...@panix2.panix.com>:

>In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>
>>>In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>[...]
>
>>>>>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
>>>>>next to my nips.
>>>
>>>>silk?
>>>
>>>That's about number four on the list. *grin*
>>
>>i am SO not gonna be trolled into asking you what #s 1-3 are.
>>
>>I am fortunate that there are consignment shops specializing in
>>designer labels so I can indulge my silk fetish for less than clothing
>>costs at Kmart.
>>
>>silk...mmmmmmmm
>
>Hey, care to take a tourist on a tour of those consignment shops?

<grin>
http://www.shopsnooty.com/snooty_fox.htm

I see they now have a 'sign up for email sales notices' thingie.

>It would be a worthwhile day trip down to the Cincinatti area or
>are you closer to "Lou'vel", even closer? That is something
>I miss being further away from a real metropolis. On LI, there
>were many people who worked in Manhatten, so the consignment
>shops were stocked with good quality things.
>
>I have a wonderful silk Talbot's silk lined pant suit, for which
>I think I paid less than $10.00 at a similar venue.

<double grin>
http://www.shopsnooty.com/brands.htm

They have mega sales in the spring and fall to clear out the past
season's merchandise (clear out warm weather to make room for cool
weather, etc).

At one of their mega sales I got 5 pairs of shorts and 5 shirts for
$18 (silk, of course...i have a THANG for silk). Mind you, they wear
out fast, cuz I certainly ain't gonna pay $5 to dryclean something
that only cost $1-2, but they last a year or two with frequent wearing
and washing after each use if one refrains from putting them in the
dryer.

Someone "helped" me once by throwing my ANGORA pullover in the
dryer....grrrrrrr. Good thing it only cost me $5.

Sharon B

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On Sun, 11 May 2003 09:34:10 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote in <3EBE5152...@bellsouth.net>:

>Sharon B wrote:
>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:

[8" chainsaws]


>mine was two cycle gas powered. drop-cord eeeewwwwwllll uck.

The color is: green
[burning trees instead of allowing scavenging]


>state does the same thing here. makes me
>sick with their use up the world today attitude.

My neighbor said it was the fault of insurance companies and
lawyers--the liability the state would assume were anyone to saw their
leg off or otherwise get hurt on state property.

IANAL, but it seems to /me/ they could have the scavengers sign a
personal injury waiver--the trees were already downed, so it's not
like somebody would be dropping a tree on other people.

>> >Jim cut his damaged trees down and into 12 foot long lengths
>> >and then Jim made lumber.
>>
>> I be jealous of your skillz.
>
>http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/lumber.html

That is ONE BIG power toy^H^H^H^tool.

Jim Ledford

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Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>
> [8" chainsaws]
> >mine was two cycle gas powered. drop-cord eeeewwwwwllll uck.
>
> The color is: green
> [burning trees instead of allowing scavenging]
> >state does the same thing here. makes me
> >sick with their use up the world today attitude.
>
> My neighbor said it was the fault of insurance companies and
> lawyers--the liability the state would assume were anyone to saw their
> leg off or otherwise get hurt on state property.
>
> IANAL,

I thought I'd go to google and see if'en I could figure
out what 'IANAL' was. got kind of excited when the search
returned a thread Subject: Re: Definition IANAL. I was
already to read and learn. look what I got.

________________________begin cut and paste____________________

From: Florian Burger (flor...@aon.at)
Subject: Re: Definition IANAL
Newsgroups: at.gesellschaft.recht
Date: 2001-11-21 12:55:30 PST


> Es gibt ja die - besonders in diesem Formum - gängige
> Usenet-Abkürzung IANAL.
> Bekanntlich steht das "L" für lawyer, was sehr viel heissen
> kann, nämlich von Richter bis (bloß) Rechtskundiger.
> Jetzt würde mich interessieren, in welcher Weise Ihr das interpretiert.

Auch wenn "L" gleich "Lawyer" und somit womöglich nur "Rechtsanwalt"
bedeutet, halte ich es für zweckmäßig, dass das "L" eine rechtskundige
Person repräsentiert. Unter rechtskundig verstehe ich eine Person mit
abgeschlossenem Studium der Rechtswissenschaften. Warum?

1) Hätte "L" nur die Bedeutung eines Rechtsanwaltes, so wären hier
vermutlich die meisten IANAL, auch wenn diese durchaus kompetente Juristen
sind; womöglich sogar kompetenter als ein durchschnittlicher Rechtsanwalt.
Da somit nur die wenigsten "Lawyer" sind, hat diese Unterscheidung IANAL
mit IAAL keine wesentliche Bedeutung mehr.

2) Es darf nicht ganz übersehen werden, dass man in den USA relativ schnell
"Lawyer" werden kann, somit auch wesentlich mehr Personen in den USA (und
damit an der Wiegestätte des Usenet) "Lawyer" sind, sodass dort die
Unterscheidung IANAL und IAAL eine größere Bedeutung erlangt.

3) Der Abschluss des Diplomstudiums der Rechtswissenschaften ist eine
scharfe und damit leichte Abgrenzung zwischen IANAL und IAAL. Dabei ist mir
natürlich bewusst, dass IANAL trotzdem kompetenter sein können als IAAL.
Dass ich damit einem Studierenden nicht den Status eines Rechtskundigen
einräume, tut mir Leid, aber ich bin der Ansicht, dass ein Rechtskundiger
die gesamte Rechtsordnung (zumindest in Teilen) kennt. Halbwissen ist kein
Wissen (Stichwort: Zauberlehrling).

4) Und dass IAAL im Gegensatz zu IANAL eine zusätzliche Haftung einräumt,
kann mE verneint werden. Allerdings wird ein bekennender Jurist wohl einen
höheren Sorgfaltsmaßstab nach § 1299 ABGB anrechnen lassen müssen.

________________________end cut and paste____________________

I hate it when one question only generates another question.


> but it seems to /me/ they could have the scavengers sign a
> personal injury waiver--the trees were already downed, so it's not
> like somebody would be dropping a tree on other people.

I got arrested for mowing the grass in the median. yep I
thought it was unsightly so I took my rig out there and was
mowing. the judge said I should have checked with the
authorities first.


> >> >Jim cut his damaged trees down and into 12 foot long lengths
> >> >and then Jim made lumber.
> >>
> >> I be jealous of your skillz.
> >
> >http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/lumber.html
>
> That is ONE BIG power toy^H^H^H^tool.

you might not realize and I may not be able to ever explain
but your looking at that picture of the Wood Miser has made
my day. Sharon, with ALL of my joking and foolishness put
to the side for a moment, thank you for taking that look,
that action on your part meant a lot to me.

Jim

Sharon B

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On Thu, 15 May 2003 13:22:40 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote in <3EC3CCE0...@bellsouth.net>:

My German sucks Giant Wienerschnitzel, but it looks like she is doing
a step by step analysis of why the acronyms, I Am Not A Liaryer and I
Am A Liaryer, don't parse in German.

>> but it seems to /me/ they could have the scavengers sign a
>> personal injury waiver--the trees were already downed, so it's not
>> like somebody would be dropping a tree on other people.
>
>I got arrested for mowing the grass in the median. yep I
>thought it was unsightly so I took my rig out there and was
>mowing. the judge said I should have checked with the
>authorities first.

they FINED you? I.R.Retard, but mine is working....one of the teen
boys around here fixed it. I SAW the sears.ghod scrub the corrosion
off the battery terminals, but it never occurred to me with the
clicking sound that the cable was loose. He pushed the cable toward
the terminal. D'oh. I woulda been REALLY MAD had this occurred after
I took the back off of it to trace down kill switch and blade
engagement wires....but we're under severe t-storm watch #10,000,000,
so I hadn't done that yet. (exaggeration--3hundred and something for
this year, actually)

>> >> >Jim cut his damaged trees down and into 12 foot long lengths
>> >> >and then Jim made lumber.
>> >>
>> >> I be jealous of your skillz.
>> >
>> >http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/lumber.html
>>
>> That is ONE BIG power toy^H^H^H^tool.
>
>you might not realize and I may not be able to ever explain
>but your looking at that picture of the Wood Miser has made
>my day. Sharon, with ALL of my joking and foolishness put
>to the side for a moment, thank you for taking that look,
>that action on your part meant a lot to me.

<hugs>
I'm glad it made you happy, but I don't understand why it would. I
looked at several of your pages (check your logs), but didn't get to
them all. You have a beautiful farm, from what I saw. Lots of Real
Trees. What's the hay for, your own livestock or for sale?

....still not going to any websites put up by the regs in
alt.hackers.malicious unless I ALSO know them off Usenet, even WITH an
anonymous proxy....

Crash Street Kidd

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In article <cup7cvg32lv6bh8bh...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...

>
>On Thu, 15 May 2003 13:22:40 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
>wrote in <3EC3CCE0...@bellsouth.net>:

>>> but it seems to /me/ they could have the scavengers sign a


>>> personal injury waiver--the trees were already downed, so it's not
>>> like somebody would be dropping a tree on other people.
>>
>>I got arrested for mowing the grass in the median.

What else were you doing when you were mowing the
grass in the median? You weren't wearing any fake
Vietnam war veteran paraphenilia were you?

>> yep I
>>thought it was unsightly so I took my rig out there and was
>>mowing. the judge said I should have checked with the
>>authorities first.
>
>they FINED you?

I am sure they did it on general principle.

> I.R.Retard, but mine is working....one of the teen
>boys around here fixed it. I SAW the sears.ghod scrub the corrosion
>off the battery terminals, but it never occurred to me with the
>clicking sound that the cable was loose.

That must have been a bouncy ride.

> He pushed the cable toward
>the terminal. D'oh. I woulda been REALLY MAD had this occurred after
>I took the back off of it to trace down kill switch and blade
>engagement wires....but we're under severe t-storm watch #10,000,000,
>so I hadn't done that yet. (exaggeration--3hundred and something for
>this year, actually)

The weather has been a bit odd this year... And there
is a blood moon coming with the eclipse.

>>you might not realize and I may not be able to ever explain
>>but your looking at that picture of the Wood Miser has made
>>my day. Sharon, with ALL of my joking and foolishness put
>>to the side for a moment, thank you for taking that look,
>>that action on your part meant a lot to me.
>
><hugs>
>I'm glad it made you happy, but I don't understand why it would.

He is strange. If past behaviour is any indicator he
will explode at you spectacularly at some point and
then he will invent some things.

> I
>looked at several of your pages (check your logs), but didn't get to
>them all. You have a beautiful farm, from what I saw. Lots of Real
>Trees. What's the hay for, your own livestock or for sale?
>
>....still not going to any websites put up by the regs in
>alt.hackers.malicious unless I ALSO know them off Usenet, even WITH an
>anonymous proxy....

Crash Street Kidd

Jim Ledford

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Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >> > Sharon B wrote:
> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >>


> >> IANAL,

[question generates answer]


> >> but it seems to /me/ they could have the scavengers sign a
> >> personal injury waiver--the trees were already downed, so it's not
> >> like somebody would be dropping a tree on other people.
> >
> >I got arrested for mowing the grass in the median. yep I
> >thought it was unsightly so I took my rig out there and was
> >mowing. the judge said I should have checked with the
> >authorities first.
>
> they FINED you?

for improper equipment. when operating mowers on a NC hwy
median you have to have a lot of safety stuff. You got to have
a sign that reads CAUTION, you got to have some flashing lights
and you got to have the guards in place on your mower to keep
the mower from throwing stuff at passing cars.


> I.R.Retard, but mine is working....one of the teen
> boys around here fixed it. I SAW the sears.ghod scrub the corrosion
> off the battery terminals,

clean the battery terminals with a wire brush until they shine,
do the same to the cable connector ends. reconnect them and make
them as tight as you can without breaking the bolt. Now coat them
with grease. this will end the corrosion problem.

look for a product at the auto store called 'Belt Dressing', spray
the PTO belt between the motor and the deck, also spray the belt on
the deck that transfers power to the other blades. Run motor at low
speed and spray these while turning. this stuff makes the belts sticky
so they slip less. slippage is what wears v-belts out. it cost about 70
dollars to replace these two v-belts on my mower. spraying them makes
them last twice as long. DO NOT spray the belts that make the mower
move, the ones that take power from the motor to the transmission, DO
NOT DO THAT. doing this will cause the clutch to grab so quickly you
can end up with an entire cup of coffee in your face, not fun either.

> but it never occurred to me with the
> clicking sound that the cable was loose. He pushed the cable toward
> the terminal. D'oh. I woulda been REALLY MAD had this occurred after
> I took the back off of it to trace down kill switch and blade
> engagement wires....

I took all the safety crap off my mower several years ago. that crap
f$$ked me once to often. last real aggravation I had with my mower was
the starter bendix gear stripped out. a 5 dollar plastic part created
about 4 hours of take down labor. the top bolt, could not even see it
with out a mirror and I never knew I could bend my hand backwards like
that either.

> but we're under severe t-storm watch #10,000,000,
> so I hadn't done that yet. (exaggeration--3hundred and something for
> this year, actually)

got rain last night and still so excited I'm mentioning
it again. soybean plants jumped a full inch. YeeHaw! :)


> >> >> >Jim cut his damaged trees down and into 12 foot long lengths
> >> >> >and then Jim made lumber.
> >> >>
> >> >> I be jealous of your skillz.
> >> >
> >> >http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/lumber.html
> >>
> >> That is ONE BIG power toy^H^H^H^tool.
> >
> >you might not realize and I may not be able to ever explain
> >but your looking at that picture of the Wood Miser has made
> >my day. Sharon, with ALL of my joking and foolishness put
> >to the side for a moment, thank you for taking that look,
> >that action on your part meant a lot to me.
>
> <hugs>
> I'm glad it made you happy,

Happy dance I did :)

> but I don't understand why it would.

I'm going to give one shot at trying to explain these emotions.
Sharon, from what you've shared and or allowed me to see as well
as what my abilities have allowed me to see, I feel and think that
you are the kind of person I'd be willing to put real work and
effort into the creation of a friendship. Friendships with good
people are a cherished creation to me. Trust is a very important
factor in these friendships. You showed trust when you clicked
on that URL. Thank You Sharon for that.


> I looked at several of your pages (check your logs), but didn't get to
> them all. You have a beautiful farm, from what I saw. Lots of Real
> Trees. What's the hay for, your own livestock or for sale?

the hay is for sale because I don't have livestock and I don't
ever again want to have livestock. With all that is required
in tending to the livestock the rate of return is not high enough
to interest me. A really really good friend is trying her had at
goat farming. I put up most of her fencing on a contract deal.
She is learning now that the real money is made by the middle man
and I can see her returning to boarding city people's horses.


> ....still not going to any websites put up by the regs in
> alt.hackers.malicious unless I ALSO know them off Usenet, even WITH an
> anonymous proxy....

to me that'd be almost like going to the bad side of the
tracks after midnight alone. some things make real good
sense as to why we should not do them.

Jim :)

Crash Street Kidd

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In article <3EC4E2F9...@bellsouth.net>, Jim says...
>


>to me that'd be almost like going to the bad side of the
>tracks after midnight alone.

"but Momma, that's where the fun is."

Crash Street Kidd

Sharon B

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On 13 May 2003 08:30:47 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
<CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9r33...@drn.newsguy.com>:

>In article <8lp1cv4kmn18q3bfc...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...


>>
>>On 10 May 2003 13:22:38 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
>><CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9jn2...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>>
>>>In article <udppbvgqheseqg402...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...
>>>>
>>>>On 9 May 2003 12:22:10 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
>>>><CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9gv5...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>>>>

>>[...]
>>>>You guys here are so culinary. Y'all make my cooking look like that
>>>>of a 6-yo.
>>>
>>>I am sure you do fine. I tend to prefer simple stuff though
>>>I have been involved in the preparation of fancier meals
>>>usually just doing what the gf or wife (at the time) asked
>>>me to do.
>>
>><grin>
>>HUGE fan of the 'one pot dinner', am I. Less muss, less fuss.
>>
>>[...]
>>>I think Sobelewski and the crew have been reading too many
>>>Gor novels.
>>
>><grin>
>>I have only the vaguest of acquaintances with that reference.
>

>It was a science fiction series where the men dominated
>the women and were lords of all they surveyed including
>the women. I never actually read a Gor book though I did
>read a book by the author of the Gor series, John Norman.
>The gist: a beautiful virginal scientist gets sent back in
>time (by a man who is secretly her father) and became a
>caveman's (and his tribe's) sex toy before finding love
>with the caveman and realizing her true calling as a woman
>which is to be dominated by a man. Lots of gratuitous sex
>with bondage overtones. Very politically incorrect.
>
>The books were popular some thirty years ago mostly
>amongst adolescent males. Many of the soc.froots probably
>got their ideas of male-female relationships from those
>books. Protests have prevented republication of the series
>though reprintings have sold out quickly.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/gorean_community/gorone.html

How sad. They should publish what they want, even if it is
misogynistic sci-fi pr0n.

Sharon B

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On 13 May 2003 19:08:24 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
<CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9s8e...@drn.newsguy.com>:

>In article <3a53cv8gjk0ola4mn...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...


>>
>>On 13 May 2003 16:07:40 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
>><CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9rtr...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>>
>>>In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

[..]
>When I would buy the frilly stuff for the ex I would
>always check the texture so that the things I bought
>looked and felt good. She liked that. Silk and cotton
>figured large in my purchases.

Well there's a pit of quicksand just waiting for someone to fall in.

...buying clothes for a woman can be a dangerous proposition....

[..]
>I think it is something that is ingrained in the double X
>chromosome. Most women, even the ones who could pass for
>supermodels think that there is something wrong with them.

on the bright side, imagine how big our heads would be if we didn't.
[...]


>><grin>
>>You Guy Types prolly stress over other things that us Gurl Types
>>consider unimportant.
>

>Major male insecurities are probably height and hair and neither
>really matters. Its how you help the woman feel when they are
>with you that counts. That and multiple orgasms... :-)

hair and height are prolly only important with 'first impressions'.
The guys I know who are bald or short (or both)....I don't really
notice it after I get to know them.

Bald men who are cute: Ron Insano (financial guy, msnbc), Kelsey
Gramer(sp?--Frasier).

[...]


>>Some conquering warlord (Attila the Hun?) used silk undershirts
>>beneath all his warriors' armor (leather, IIRC).....when they would
>>have flesh penetrated by steel, they were more inclined to survive
>>their wounds as the silk wouldn't tear
>

>Now you have me curious... the next time I have to trash
>something made of silk I am going to do an experiment first...


>
>>leaving threads inside the body
>>to turn septic as was common with their opponents.
>

>Hmmm... I hadn't heard that anecdote before. Thanks!

you're welcome. I am a veritable Fount of Useless Information

Sharon B

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On Fri, 16 May 2003 09:09:13 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote in <3EC4E2F9...@bellsouth.net>:

>Sharon B wrote:
>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> >> > Sharon B wrote:
>> >> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> >>
>
>
>> >> IANAL,
>
>[question generates answer]

there's also babelfish.com, but I think I got the general gist of what
she was saying without it. The problem with babelfish is it give
/literal/ translations, and you run into problems with that; ie:
cabeza de caca translates literally as "head of sh*t", when the proper
way to translate it would be just "sh*thead".

[...]


>for improper equipment. when operating mowers on a NC hwy
>median you have to have a lot of safety stuff. You got to have
>a sign that reads CAUTION, you got to have some flashing lights
>and you got to have the guards in place on your mower to keep
>the mower from throwing stuff at passing cars.

OIC.

[...]


>clean the battery terminals with a wire brush until they shine,
>do the same to the cable connector ends. reconnect them and make
>them as tight as you can without breaking the bolt. Now coat them
>with grease. this will end the corrosion problem.

yah, he didn't take them off or grease them, so he scrubbed them loose
and the first couple of times it started was just dumb luck. I'm not
calling them for anymore tuneups....I've watched enough now to feel
confident doing it myself, and I can order the parts online. The main
reason I call is for the blades, anyway....that mower deck is kinda
much for me to handle taking on and off, but maybe I can get a tackle
and pulley system to raise the front of the mower. The sears.ghods
have a hydraulic one in the back of their vans....tres kewl.

>look for a product at the auto store called 'Belt Dressing',

OMG. I GOT some of that last year when I was redoing the DR brush and
field mower (the RIGHT way, with all the parts where they were
SUPPOSED to go).

They should call that what it is: creosote in a spray can. WOT A
MESS

>spray
>the PTO belt between the motor and the deck, also spray the belt on
>the deck that transfers power to the other blades. Run motor at low
>speed and spray these while turning. this stuff makes the belts sticky
>so they slip less. slippage is what wears v-belts out. it cost about 70
>dollars to replace these two v-belts on my mower.

Sears raised their price....the mower deck belt is now $45...I croaked
at the $35 it was last year. Also, the manufacturer sent *them* (not
me) a bulletin that *if* anyone complained about the belts wearing
out, to replace it with Not The One Specified...apparently they
designed their pulley system so BADLY that even if one cuts no lower
than the recommended 3", if done on uneven ground, the belt is so
thick and angle between deck and drive pulley so steep that the belt
pops off. Fuggers. I've spent about $125 on those stupid
belts.....and the new one is CHEAPER. Fuggers.

>spraying them makes
>them last twice as long.

Thank you, I will do that, the tractor gets way more belt use than the
DR. BTW--the sears.ghod agrees with you on the SAE30 vs SAE10W30,
though he said under no circumstances use it on the tractor on account
of the hydraulics.

The Lowe's Guy's Hardware Emporium "expert" disagrees with you both.
I still lurve Lowe's though....I've just larned not to take their
experts' advice as gospel.

>DO NOT spray the belts that make the mower
>move, the ones that take power from the motor to the transmission, DO
>NOT DO THAT.

Oh, I can't even REACH that one without taking half the mower
apart....I had a helluva time just trying to grab enough of the belt
to jam the bushings in the starter (I was assuming the starter had
gone bad).

>doing this will cause the clutch to grab so quickly you
>can end up with an entire cup of coffee in your face, not fun either.

*snarf*
the voice of experience.

[...]


>I took all the safety crap off my mower several years ago. that crap
>f$$ked me once to often.

Heh. Being unable to sit on the fender for added weight when it gets
stuck is a general PITA. The blades still turning if the tractor tips
on me will, I'm sure, be the LEAST of my worries.

>last real aggravation I had with my mower was
>the starter bendix gear stripped out. a 5 dollar plastic part created
>about 4 hours of take down labor. the top bolt, could not even see it
>with out a mirror and I never knew I could bend my hand backwards like
>that either.

You have surpassed my starter knowledge with the bendix gear thang,
but I am VERY familiar with bolts in bad places, especially when put
on with air impact wrenches.

[...]


>got rain last night and still so excited I'm mentioning
>it again. soybean plants jumped a full inch. YeeHaw! :)

I'm very, very happy for you. I believe I've lost near all my first
planting of green beans, and all my first planting of cucumbers....the
pumpkins haven't sprouted yet, either....it's time for the second
planting of beans/corn/cukes, and I don't even have all the regular
planting in yet....too muddy.

This same thing happened last year....too wet to get the stuff in
until end of May/first of June....then no rain most the rest of the
summer.

It did dry out enough for me to get the strawberries all in, the new
tiller is SO MUCH EASIER. OMG. It pulverizes in one pass. I still
have to get used to the way it handles though, it's a lot heavier than
the 3 HP thus extremely difficult for me to manhandle.


[...]


>the hay is for sale because I don't have livestock and I don't
>ever again want to have livestock.

Oh, I HEAR THAT. We raised our own beef and had a pony. If I never
hafta muck out another barn, or run down to bust the ice up on the
water trough, or file another hoof I will die a happy gurl.

>With all that is required
>in tending to the livestock the rate of return is not high enough
>to interest me. A really really good friend is trying her had at
>goat farming.

Hah! I HAD a pet billy goat....my uncle gave it to us, it was his
watchgoat, then he got a watchdog. Ill tempered, eats anything BUT
what it's supposed to PITA. I couldn't begin to count the number of
hours spent painting tar on the fruit trees it debarked.

The Danimal

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Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in message news:<4u0ccvs4ar4l9g2am...@4ax.com>...

> On 13 May 2003 19:08:24 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
> [..]
> >I think it is something that is ingrained in the double X
> >chromosome. Most women, even the ones who could pass for
> >supermodels think that there is something wrong with them.

If a woman who passes for a supermodel can admit to her own
shortcomings, imagine what goes through her mind when she
looks at Crash Street Kidd. (See: crash.jpg.)

How often, when a woman elaborates her faults, does she tell
you she is unworthy of your attention?

When a woman tells you what's wrong with her, she expects you
to listen. She expects you to be interested in what she has
to say. Therefore she is implying that as flawed as she thinks
she is, she thinks (at least subconsciously) that you are even
MORE flawed, so you had better be thankful for the opportunity
to sit there and listen to her.

Self-absorption is the way to say, implicitly, that one believes
one is more important than everybody else. For example, the self-
absorbed person rarely asks for permission to begin droning on
about her trivial insecurities. It never occurs to her to ask
whether her audience might be interested in hearing about them.

What woman do you know who acts in the least surprised
when men hit on her?

Every woman I know acts as if she fully deserves and expects all
the attention and approval she gets from men.

Women might think there is something "wrong" with them, but
only in a purely theoretical sense that in no way reduces their
entitlement to other people's attentions.

> on the bright side, imagine

what they think about Crash.

> how big our heads would be if we didn't.

I haven't heard a woman say she's unworthy of my attention. A
woman might put out a form of verbal humility camouflage to
mislead the gullible e.g. Crash, but a woman's actions are not
consistent with any sort of humility.

For example, if a woman and a man have some sort of problem,
who will the woman blame for it?

A woman is more likely to suspect an uninterested man of being
gay than to consider the possibility that her flaws are repelling
him.

Even when women do admit to having minor imperfections, they
will often say silly things like "Doesn't she look fantastic?"
about some aging Hollywood former beauty who is obviously
decades past her prime. It's pretty clear that a lot of women
have only a foggy notion of what men see, so a woman's perception
of what is and isn't a "flaw" (in a woman) can easily be out
of whack.

> [...]
> >><grin>
> >>You Guy Types prolly stress over other things that us Gurl Types
> >>consider unimportant.
> >
> >Major male insecurities are probably height and hair and neither
> >really matters.

The "insecurity" is simply men acknowledging what women clearly
prefer.

If male pattern baldness were attractive, men with hair would
shave their heads to duplicate the desirable pattern. They don't.

Of course a man's height matters. Most women have some
minimum height requirement a man must exceed to be
sexually attractive to them. That is really quite a remarkable
thing when you think about it. No matter what else a woman
likes about a man, she would be unable to love him if he had
happened to be six inches shorter (or whatever).

I'm curious to know what goes through her mind when a woman meets
a man who has absolutely everything she has ever wanted in a man,
except enough height. Does a woman think, "Wow, he has everything
I have ever wanted in a man, but he is just too short"? Or
does she simply never think about him "in that way"?

> >Its how you help the woman feel when they are
> >with you that counts.

Actually what counts most for guys who are short and bald is
their willingness to settle for women who are old, overweight,
and therefore about as unattractive to most men as short bald
men are unattractive to most women.

> >That and multiple orgasms... :-)
>
> hair and height are prolly only important with 'first impressions'.

I don't understand your use of the word "only." First impressions
have an enormous influence on the direction a relationship can go.
When a woman meets a man, she tends to classify him pretty quickly
into one of two categories:

1. A sexual possibility
2. Out of the question

A man who goes right into a woman's category 2 is very unlikely
to claw his way into category 1 with her, no matter how much time
and effort he wastes.

A man who is short and bald will go into category 2 with a larger
percentage of women than a tall man with hair will, especially with
the more attractive women.

This matters because the short bald man will probably have to
approach a lot of women and fail repeatedly before he finally
gets lucky, but by then he will probably have accumulated so
much emotional damage that he will have developed a "short man's
syndrome." He will begin thinking of all woman as constituting
a kind of hostile (or at least indifferent) class of people.

> The guys I know who are bald or short (or both)....I don't really
> notice it after I get to know them.

What do you mean by "it"? Their sexual desirability?

> Bald men who are cute: Ron Insano (financial guy, msnbc), Kelsey
> Gramer(sp?--Frasier).

A man's chances of getting paid to appear on television improve
if he has some attributes that make him immediately interesting
to a lot of people. E.g., good looks, great speaking ability,
riveting personality, or preferably some combination of several
immediately obvious desirable traits. The fact that a few
extraordinarily talented men can get away with being bald doesn't
mean the average man escapes the penalty so easily.

Most men have no chance of getting paid to appear on television.

How many short bald men do you want to have sex with in real life?

> [...]
> >>Some conquering warlord (Attila the Hun?) used silk undershirts
> >>beneath all his warriors' armor (leather, IIRC).....when they would
> >>have flesh penetrated by steel, they were more inclined to survive
> >>their wounds as the silk wouldn't tear

I'm sure the survival rate for Attila's wounded troops
was so low as to make the point moot. Back then, there wasn't
much that could be done for wounded soldiers who couldn't leave
the battlefield under their own power, so they were usually just
left to die. It wasn't until the 1800's that people began
developing the idea of collecting the wounded after a battle
and attempting to care for them.

Most ancient peoples believed in an incredible amount of nonsense.
Check out the history of medicine for some amazing horror stories.
Such as the belief in the curative powers of bloodletting.

-- the Danimal

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <s384cv43ktgg3va66...@4ax.com>,

Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 May 2003 01:48:07 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9s78n$dt2$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>>In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>,
>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>[kiwis]

>>There's a lot of commercial growing around Chico, CA, which ain't exactly
>>tropical (USDA zone 8).
>
>Hmmm. Maybe I *will* try them.

What usda zone are you in, not that i think that's a really good
indicator?

(sunset zones are a lot more reliable out here - especially since the
maps keep disagreeing about my usda)

>>>>>>There are many many things I prefer over air when we're talking about
>>>>>>next to my nips.
>>>>>silk?
>>>
>>>>That's about number four on the list. *grin*
>>
>>>i am SO not gonna be trolled into asking you what #s 1-3 are.
>
>>*pout*

>I cannot resist TWICE.

Smart (not SMRT) girl.

>What are numbers 1-3 on your List of Things To Be Near Nipples?

Lips, skin, fur. In that order. Gotta be careful about #3 since it's often
the cat. Who likes to walk on my chest if I'm dumb enough to lie on my
back.

Broken in cotton of about any kind comes next.

The favorite bras have satin linings, which is nice.

>>>I am fortunate that there are consignment shops specializing in
>>>designer labels so I can indulge my silk fetish for less than clothing
>>costs at Kmart.
>
>>That's not bad.

>OMG..on their store clearouts (seasonal) you can get them for as
>little as $1.

That's amazing. Better than thrift store even.

That sounds like an interesting place and I'd be there if I lived within
two states.

One of the problems with a huge metro area is things get dispersed. I
used to find some good stuff when I lived on Nob Hill in San Francisco
but I don't have the time or energy to go around poking through
consignment stores any more and the old-style outlets are getting
squeezed out by upscale retail. Even though almost all of my
really smashing dress outfits are from my expeditions.

>>>silk...mmmmmmmm
>
>>mmmm is right. knit is my fave. all the comfort plus it goes in the
>>washer. winter silks has a lot of it and it's reasonably priced.

>Oh, I throw all my dry clean only stuff in the washer (well, not
>suede).....just not the dryer.

I do that for a lot. The knit silk doesn't need to be ironed to look
polished for the office, which is nice.

Sometimes the sheen is better if drycleaned ... anything dupioni that is
in my closet will get drycleaned to KEEP THAT SHINE.

(My church has a festal set of dupoini vestments ... amazing
stuff. NOTHING holds color like silk.)

[...]
>>>>Hated wearing any sort of open toed shoes (it's not much of an issue
>>>>in this climate, but still) till I started getting professional
>>>>pedicures. Toes are still misshapen but the polish job looks great.
>>>>Still prefer the more covered-up styles, though.
>>
>>>oh, everybody hates their feet.
>
>>The toes didn't use to be curly fries. But whatever.
>
>I'm sure they're prettier than *you* think they are.

<looks at feet>

I can deal.

I should have started using polish earlier :-). I see those burgundy
frost nails, it makes me smile. Won't do my hands because of the
garden work.

I used to consider myself a collection of "figure flaws". The toes are
still weird but given that I'm older now than some of my friends ever got
to be I think I will cope. Being comfortable in my own skin is a great
gift.

>Given the way
>the guys reacted to your pic, I somehow don't think they'd even notice
>your toes :-)

A great pedicure does about as much for the general "spring in the
step" thing as cute underwear ;-). Especially when the house is warm
enough for the barefoot thing.

Charlotte (who does own a pair of strappy shoes now and is eyeing
cute sandals ... odd since they aren't very practical in this climate)


Sharon B

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On Sat, 17 May 2003 17:00:29 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
<c...@rahul.net> wrote in <ba5prd$rvr$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

>In article <s384cv43ktgg3va66...@4ax.com>,
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 14 May 2003 01:48:07 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9s78n$dt2$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>
>>>In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>,
>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:

[...]


>What usda zone are you in, not that i think that's a really good
>indicator?

7, IIRC.....but I don't base my perennial stuff on that, the low
temperature range is an average, thus on colder than average winters
my stuff would die. The saskatoons I got last year, for example, are
good to -40F.

[...]


>>What are numbers 1-3 on your List of Things To Be Near Nipples?
>
>Lips, skin, fur. In that order. Gotta be careful about #3 since it's often
>the cat. Who likes to walk on my chest if I'm dumb enough to lie on my
>back.
>
>Broken in cotton of about any kind comes next.
>
>The favorite bras have satin linings, which is nice.

Eeewww.....the Ehvul Bra......

[...]


>One of the problems with a huge metro area is things get dispersed. I
>used to find some good stuff when I lived on Nob Hill in San Francisco
>but I don't have the time or energy to go around poking through
>consignment stores any more and the old-style outlets are getting
>squeezed out by upscale retail. Even though almost all of my
>really smashing dress outfits are from my expeditions.

You know, I've thought the SAME THING? I never see the cool designer
clothes in the dept stores like I do in the consignment shops.

[...]


>>I'm sure they're prettier than *you* think they are.
>
><looks at feet>
>
>I can deal.
>
>I should have started using polish earlier :-). I see those burgundy
>frost nails, it makes me smile. Won't do my hands because of the
>garden work.

You have to strip it off and apply fresh everyday if you're hard on
your hands. Days' old chipped polish is so tacky.

[...]


>Charlotte (who does own a pair of strappy shoes now and is eyeing
>cute sandals ... odd since they aren't very practical in this climate)

You need to move to Eden. You can go barefoot.

Sharon B

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On 17 May 2003 07:12:35 -0700, dmo...@mfm.com (The Danimal) wrote in
<cac1ad88.03051...@posting.google.com>:

>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in message news:<4u0ccvs4ar4l9g2am...@4ax.com>...
>> On 13 May 2003 19:08:24 -0700, Crash Street Kidd

[...]


>When a woman tells you what's wrong with her, she expects you
>to listen. She expects you to be interested in what she has
>to say. Therefore she is implying that as flawed as she thinks
>she is, she thinks (at least subconsciously) that you are even
>MORE flawed, so you had better be thankful for the opportunity
>to sit there and listen to her.

Absolutism Error #1

[...]


>What woman do you know who acts in the least surprised
>when men hit on her?

Why on earth *would* we be? Most of us have dealt with those of you
who hit on anything with internal nads since puberty.....humility
doesn't enter into it at all, that's just the way it *is*, and again,
it has nothing to do with looks or lack of same.

Example: one winter night I was out walking in the neighborhood with
triple layered clothing, a mid thigh thickly padded chore coat and
toboggan which prolly added 50# to my appearance.....some guy actually
pulled up *behind* me in a truck and made a pass at me, the only way
he could've even discerned I *might* be female was my pony tail and
stature.

[...]


>Women might think there is something "wrong" with them, but
>only in a purely theoretical sense that in no way reduces their
>entitlement to other people's attentions.

Absolutisms are only correct when *I* engage in them.

>> on the bright side, imagine
>
>what they think about Crash.

<grin>
Both you and Crash seem like nice enough guys to *me*, thus far.

>> how big our heads would be if we didn't.
>
>I haven't heard a woman say she's unworthy of my attention.

This medium doesn't do auditory.

>A
>woman might put out a form of verbal humility camouflage to
>mislead the gullible e.g. Crash, but a woman's actions are not
>consistent with any sort of humility.

Again with the absolutisms. I've no doubt that is true with some
women, not all. Using myself as an example, I find nothing out of the
ordinary about my Usenet posts, but apparently some find them
entertaining..and I would say similar about my appearance; how others
see one is not necessarily how one sees themself.

>For example, if a woman and a man have some sort of problem,
>who will the woman blame for it?

What kind of problem?

>A woman is more likely to suspect an uninterested man of being
>gay than to consider the possibility that her flaws are repelling
>him.

Why do you say that? I wouldn't. I don't know any woman that expects
every man to be attracted to her.

>Even when women do admit to having minor imperfections, they
>will often say silly things like "Doesn't she look fantastic?"
>about some aging Hollywood former beauty who is obviously
>decades past her prime. It's pretty clear that a lot of women
>have only a foggy notion of what men see, so a woman's perception
>of what is and isn't a "flaw" (in a woman) can easily be out
>of whack.

Or a man's perception of what is/isn't a flaw is different than ours.

[...]


>> hair and height are prolly only important with 'first impressions'.
>
>I don't understand your use of the word "only." First impressions
>have an enormous influence on the direction a relationship can go.
>When a woman meets a man, she tends to classify him pretty quickly
>into one of two categories:
>
>1. A sexual possibility
>2. Out of the question
>
>A man who goes right into a woman's category 2 is very unlikely
>to claw his way into category 1 with her, no matter how much time
>and effort he wastes.

Why would someone short and bald go into category 2 right off the bat?
You yourself have said that women don't put a high priority on
appearance, and "short" is relative.

>A man who is short and bald will go into category 2 with a larger
>percentage of women than a tall man with hair will, especially with
>the more attractive women.

But the flaw in your logic is that you only consider "more attractive
women" to be 18-25 yo, and bald denotes advancing age....so I'm
betting it would be the *appearance* of being out of her age range and
not the bald.

>This matters because the short bald man will probably have to
>approach a lot of women and fail repeatedly before he finally
>gets lucky, but by then he will probably have accumulated so
>much emotional damage that he will have developed a "short man's
>syndrome." He will begin thinking of all woman as constituting
>a kind of hostile (or at least indifferent) class of people.

*THAT* is what will kill him, the personality.

>> The guys I know who are bald or short (or both)....I don't really
>> notice it after I get to know them.
>
>What do you mean by "it"? Their sexual desirability?

The bald and short. I don't notice it. Sure, having hair and height
is closer to perfection, but very few people of either gender come
close to perfection yet most people still have sexual desireability.

[...]


>How many short bald men do you want to have sex with in real life?

All the short balding guys I know are married, so the answer is: None

>> [...]
>> >>Some conquering warlord (Attila the Hun?) used silk undershirts
>> >>beneath all his warriors' armor (leather, IIRC).....when they would
>> >>have flesh penetrated by steel, they were more inclined to survive
>> >>their wounds as the silk wouldn't tear
>
>I'm sure the survival rate for Attila's wounded troops
>was so low as to make the point moot. Back then, there wasn't
>much that could be done for wounded soldiers who couldn't leave
>the battlefield under their own power, so they were usually just
>left to die. It wasn't until the 1800's that people began
>developing the idea of collecting the wounded after a battle
>and attempting to care for them.
>
>Most ancient peoples believed in an incredible amount of nonsense.
>Check out the history of medicine for some amazing horror stories.
>Such as the belief in the curative powers of bloodletting.

Dunno, I saw it on a Discovery Channel type show, it was presented as
factual and validated and portrayed as a partial reason for the
success of his campaign.

Jim Ledford

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Charlotte, Sharon, meet Matilda. we brought her home today.
She is 15 inches long, 9 inches high and weights 12 pounds.

http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/Maltida.html


:)

Crash Street Kidd

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In article <ch0ccvkgerubv82ph...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...

>
>On 13 May 2003 08:30:47 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
><CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9r33...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>
>>In article <8lp1cv4kmn18q3bfc...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...
>>>

GOR:


>>The books were popular some thirty years ago mostly
>>amongst adolescent males. Many of the soc.froots probably
>>got their ideas of male-female relationships from those
>>books. Protests have prevented republication of the series
>>though reprintings have sold out quickly.
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/gorean_community/gorone.html
>
>How sad. They should publish what they want, even if it is
>misogynistic sci-fi pr0n.

It is strange that they have trouble finding a publisher
given everything else that gets published these days. You
would think that the author would self publish and sell
it through Amazon. We could probably get rid of most of
the sockmen for long stretches if he did that.

Crash Street Kidd

Crash Street Kidd

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In article <4u0ccvs4ar4l9g2am...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...

>
>On 13 May 2003 19:08:24 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
><CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9s8e...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>
>>In article <3a53cv8gjk0ola4mn...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...
>>>
>>>On 13 May 2003 16:07:40 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
>>><CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <b9rtr...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>>>
>>>>In article <2cq2cvkvn4bo7ll1d...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...
>>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 May 2003 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9quri$upp$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <bkmtbvoata2jss3v9...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
>>>>>>><c...@rahul.net> wrote in <b9mfqq$m27$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>
>[..]
>>When I would buy the frilly stuff for the ex I would
>>always check the texture so that the things I bought
>>looked and felt good. She liked that. Silk and cotton
>>figured large in my purchases.
>
>Well there's a pit of quicksand just waiting for someone to fall in.
>
>...buying clothes for a woman can be a dangerous proposition....

I didn't usually get into trouble aside from the occasional
expeditions to thrift stores. When I misfired there it was
not a big deal. On the nightwear and undies front I couldn't
misfire because I'd just pick things that I wanted to see
her in. She was very happy with most of my purchases and did
comment on the fact that I bought for texture as well as for
visual appeal.

>[..]
>>I think it is something that is ingrained in the double X
>>chromosome. Most women, even the ones who could pass for
>>supermodels think that there is something wrong with them.
>
>on the bright side, imagine how big our heads would be if we didn't.

You have a point there. :-)

>[...]
>>><grin>
>>>You Guy Types prolly stress over other things that us Gurl Types
>>>consider unimportant.
>>
>>Major male insecurities are probably height and hair and neither
>>really matters. Its how you help the woman feel when they are
>>with you that counts. That and multiple orgasms... :-)
>
>hair and height are prolly only important with 'first impressions'.
>The guys I know who are bald or short (or both)....I don't really
>notice it after I get to know them.
>
>Bald men who are cute: Ron Insano (financial guy, msnbc), Kelsey
>Gramer(sp?--Frasier).

Vin Diesel is all I hear about lately. <rolling eyes!>

>[...]
>>>Some conquering warlord (Attila the Hun?) used silk undershirts
>>>beneath all his warriors' armor (leather, IIRC).....when they would
>>>have flesh penetrated by steel, they were more inclined to survive
>>>their wounds as the silk wouldn't tear
>>
>>Now you have me curious... the next time I have to trash
>>something made of silk I am going to do an experiment first...
>>
>>>leaving threads inside the body
>>>to turn septic as was common with their opponents.
>>
>>Hmmm... I hadn't heard that anecdote before. Thanks!
>
>you're welcome. I am a veritable Fount of Useless Information

Glad to see you have been busy today. :-) Nothing is worse
than opening up newsguy only to find only miguel posts. :-)

Crash Street Kidd

Crash Street Kidd

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In article <cac1ad88.03051...@posting.google.com>, dmo...@mfm.com
says...

>
>Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in message
>news:<4u0ccvs4ar4l9g2am...@4ax.com>...
>> On 13 May 2003 19:08:24 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
>> [..]
>> >I think it is something that is ingrained in the double X
>> >chromosome. Most women, even the ones who could pass for
>> >supermodels think that there is something wrong with them.
>
>If a woman who passes for a supermodel can admit to her own
>shortcomings, imagine what goes through her mind when she
>looks at Crash Street Kidd. (See: crash.jpg.)

How adorable I am? You are such a sexual pessimist.

>How often, when a woman elaborates her faults, does she tell
>you she is unworthy of your attention?

No, not that I can recall.

>When a woman tells you what's wrong with her, she expects you
>to listen. She expects you to be interested in what she has
>to say. Therefore she is implying that as flawed as she thinks
>she is, she thinks (at least subconsciously) that you are even
>MORE flawed, so you had better be thankful for the opportunity
>to sit there and listen to her.

Why would you believe that?

>Self-absorption is the way to say, implicitly, that one believes
>one is more important than everybody else. For example, the self-
>absorbed person rarely asks for permission to begin droning on
>about her trivial insecurities. It never occurs to her to ask
>whether her audience might be interested in hearing about them.

If they aren't interested her audience is more than capable
of changing the subject.

>What woman do you know who acts in the least surprised
>when men hit on her?
>
>Every woman I know acts as if she fully deserves and expects all
>the attention and approval she gets from men.
>
>Women might think there is something "wrong" with them, but
>only in a purely theoretical sense that in no way reduces their
>entitlement to other people's attentions.
>
>> on the bright side, imagine
>
>what they think about Crash.

They think I am just peachy.

>For example, if a woman and a man have some sort of problem,
>who will the woman blame for it?
>
>

>The "insecurity" is simply men acknowledging what women clearly
>prefer.

That hasn't been what I have observed. My former karate
instructor was bald and made out like a bandit.

>If male pattern baldness were attractive, men with hair would
>shave their heads to duplicate the desirable pattern. They don't.

Vin Diesel. In Los Angeles it is all the rage. Many of
the bald guys are not really bald guys.

>Of course a man's height matters. Most women have some
>minimum height requirement a man must exceed to be
>sexually attractive to them.

Miguel wept.

>That is really quite a remarkable
>thing when you think about it. No matter what else a woman
>likes about a man, she would be unable to love him if he had
>happened to be six inches shorter (or whatever).
>
>I'm curious to know what goes through her mind when a woman meets
>a man who has absolutely everything she has ever wanted in a man,
>except enough height. Does a woman think, "Wow, he has everything
>I have ever wanted in a man, but he is just too short"? Or
>does she simply never think about him "in that way"?

I have seen a number of couples where the man is
shorter. They say that everyone is the same
height in bed.

>> >Its how you help the woman feel when they are
>> >with you that counts.
>
>Actually what counts most for guys who are short and bald is
>their willingness to settle for women who are old, overweight,
>and therefore about as unattractive to most men as short bald
>men are unattractive to most women.

Funny. Several of the short bald guys that I know are
married to knockouts that look better than the cheerleaders
that you are always raving about.

>> >That and multiple orgasms... :-)
>>
>> hair and height are prolly only important with 'first impressions'.
>
>I don't understand your use of the word "only." First impressions
>have an enormous influence on the direction a relationship can go.
>When a woman meets a man, she tends to classify him pretty quickly
>into one of two categories:
>
>1. A sexual possibility
>2. Out of the question

Haven't you ever heard that women like to change their
minds a lot?

>A man who goes right into a woman's category 2 is very unlikely
>to claw his way into category 1 with her, no matter how much time
>and effort he wastes.

Its more about how the woman feels when she is with you
than how you look. I've known some fugly guys that did
quite well with women.

Crash Street Kidd

Jim Ledford

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Sharon B wrote:

> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Sharon B wrote:

[...]
> >clean the battery terminals

> yah, he didn't take them off or grease them, so he scrubbed them loose


> and the first couple of times it started was just dumb luck. I'm not
> calling them for anymore tuneups....I've watched enough now to feel
> confident doing it myself, and I can order the parts online. The main
> reason I call is for the blades,

blades. you can save a lot of money on blades by out
sourceing and cross referencing. check these people out
and see if they carry your blades.

http://www.agri-supply.com/

http://www.agri-supply.com/catmain/2700008.htm

> anyway....that mower deck is kinda
> much for me to handle taking on and off, but maybe I can get a tackle
> and pulley system to raise the front of the mower. The sears.ghods
> have a hydraulic one in the back of their vans....tres kewl.

I use a chain hoist to lift the lawn tractor from it's rear.

Go ask John F. for that URL to Harbor Freight Tools. They
got one tool that you must have and it just happens to be
on sale till the 26th.. it is an electric impact wrench.
runs on 12 Volts DC. comes with cute little clips that
allow you to connect to the battery of the tractor. tool
will remove a bolt that is torqued to 120 foot pounds.
makes removing the blades a piece of cake. raise tractor,
crawl under, remove blades, sharpen and reinstall. to easy.
tip: these bolts are exposed to a lot of moisture and as a
result will rust and get stuck. coat the threads with grease
to avoid the problem. also if blade adapters are spline insert
coat them with grease also to avoid rust and problems with future
removals. liberal application of grease and wipe off what presses
out. for this any cheap grease will do since all you're doing is
blocking water and not working against friction. once you've got
that impact wrench, you've got it made working on stuff. 20.00
dollars plus shipping and tax:)

> >look for a product at the auto store called 'Belt Dressing',
>
> OMG. I GOT some of that last year when I was redoing the DR brush and
> field mower (the RIGHT way, with all the parts where they were
> SUPPOSED to go).
>
> They should call that what it is: creosote in a spray can. WOT A
> MESS

OK ROTFLOL I got in a hurry once and forgot to look at the arrow
on the spray direction. did you know this stuff would make a great
hair GLUE. only takes a little bit too.

> >spray
> >the PTO belt between the motor and the deck, also spray the belt on
> >the deck that transfers power to the other blades. Run motor at low
> >speed and spray these while turning. this stuff makes the belts sticky
> >so they slip less. slippage is what wears v-belts out. it cost about 70
> >dollars to replace these two v-belts on my mower.
>
> Sears raised their price....the mower deck belt is now $45...I croaked
> at the $35 it was last year.

Agri Supply has belts also. :)))
check their prices on air filters.
use a foam wrap to create a two stage
filter, at their prices you can't go
wrong.


> Also, the manufacturer sent *them* (not
> me) a bulletin that *if* anyone complained about the belts wearing
> out, to replace it with Not The One Specified...apparently they
> designed their pulley system so BADLY that even if one cuts no lower
> than the recommended 3", if done on uneven ground, the belt is so
> thick and angle between deck and drive pulley so steep that the belt
> pops off. Fuggers. I've spent about $125 on those stupid
> belts.....and the new one is CHEAPER. Fuggers.


the problem is in the design and can be corrected somewhat by
raising the height of the deck pulley that takes the PTO V-Belt
from the motor. these are called deck spindles and you need a
taller one so when the deck is lowered the angle you describe
is not as great. with taller replacement spindleS you can fix
it. question, do you really really really like the tractor.
answer better be yes because the job is 1/2 day job taking all
that apart and that's with your new impact wrench.



> >spraying them makes
> >them last twice as long.
>
> Thank you, I will do that, the tractor gets way more belt use than the
> DR. BTW--the sears.ghod agrees with you on the SAE30 vs SAE10W30,
> though he said under no circumstances use it on the tractor on account
> of the hydraulics.

my recommendation was for oil in the crankcase of the motor. how did
sears.ghod end up telling you not to put oil ON the tractor? this
has got the potential to be really funny.

> The Lowe's Guy's Hardware Emporium "expert" disagrees with you both.

different people get hung up on different oils. some are just
brand loyal and some actually understand the different applications.
even though all of our motor oils come out of the same planet there
are differences created by additives. detergent, now there's one
were people really mess up. if you start a motor off on non-detergent
oil the dirt is going to built up and stay in the motor. detergent oil
causes the dirt to stick in the oil and to be drained with an oil change.
making the mistake of using a detergent oil in a motor that was born on
and lived it's life on non-detergent oil will cause the motor to start
using oil like big time. for like V-8 gas burning racing motors, I want
a 20W-50 weight oil, because it takes the heat better than a 10W-30.
for a diesel I want Shell 15W-40 because of it's ability to stand
bearing surface pressures and keep the diesel fuel sulfur from building
up in the motor.

oh and synthetic oils, there is an evil lurking there. synthetic
cost 3 times what natural oils cost. with synthetic, the manufacture
says the oil can stay in the crank case 3 times longer so the cost is
the same. not true. leaving that oil in the crank case that long
means the dirt that is grinding on the metal parts gets to stay in
longer and grind more before you dump it during an oil change.


for your air cooled motors, stick with SAE30 and always give the
motor a minute or two to warn up before you put her to work and
you'll be good to go:)


> I still lurve Lowe's though....I've just larned not to take their
> experts' advice as gospel.

Home Depot checks out the people who do the [how to] work
shops on Saturday afternoon. I been to a few of them and
those people were pretty smart in their area of expertise.
helpful they were. but putting up wall paper still sucks.


[....]

>
> *snarf*
> the voice of experience.

yes.

>
> [...]
> >I took all the safety crap off my mower several years ago. that crap
> >f$$ked me once to often.
>
> Heh. Being unable to sit on the fender for added weight when it gets
> stuck is a general PITA. The blades still turning if the tractor tips
> on me will, I'm sure, be the LEAST of my worries.

I'm not recommending that you do that. NO ONE operates mine
but me so I don't worry about it, though I still wonder who
the double dumbass was that said we never need to mow in
reverse. dumbass that one was.


> >last real aggravation I had with my mower was
> >the starter bendix gear stripped out. a 5 dollar plastic part created
> >about 4 hours of take down labor. the top bolt, could not even see it
> >with out a mirror and I never knew I could bend my hand backwards like
> >that either.
>
> You have surpassed my starter knowledge with the bendix gear thang,

get an old starter and take it apart, it'll be fun and you'll
see how the thing works better than I can tell you because it's
so simple, it's brilliant and a clever design. they are
basically all the same.


> but I am VERY familiar with bolts in bad places, especially when put
> on with air impact wrenches.

and soon you'll be their equal with your electric impact wrench:)


> [...]
> >got rain last night and still so excited I'm mentioning
> >it again. soybean plants jumped a full inch. YeeHaw! :)
>
> I'm very, very happy for you. I believe I've lost near all my first
> planting of green beans, and all my first planting of cucumbers....the
> pumpkins haven't sprouted yet, either....it's time for the second
> planting of beans/corn/cukes, and I don't even have all the regular
> planting in yet....too muddy.

heavy rain just after a seed planting can be a heart break.
right now, I'm not even thinking of a second planting because
I'm already having to water the first planting. I wish we
had a button we could push and get rain, real rain, from the
sky and not me toting a bucket.


> This same thing happened last year....too wet to get the stuff in
> until end of May/first of June....then no rain most the rest of the
> summer.

last year, it was just dry and did not
start to rain much until the end of August.

> It did dry out enough for me to get the strawberries all in, the new

strawberries! a friend brough to me today something
they called strawberry bread. this stuff is way to
good. seems to be a first cousin to banana bread.


> tiller is SO MUCH EASIER. OMG. It pulverizes in one pass.

rear tine are nice.

> I still
> have to get used to the way it handles though, it's a lot heavier than
> the 3 HP thus extremely difficult for me to manhandle.

use your reverse to make a kind of sort-a
three point road turn at the end of the row.

U- turns suck.


> [...]
> >the hay is for sale because I don't have livestock and I don't
> >ever again want to have livestock.
>
> Oh, I HEAR THAT. We raised our own beef and had a pony. If I never
> hafta muck out another barn, or run down to bust the ice up on the
> water trough, or file another hoof I will die a happy gurl.

did you ever see the animal smile at you for breaking the ice?


> >With all that is required
> >in tending to the livestock the rate of return is not high enough
> >to interest me. A really really good friend is trying her had at
> >goat farming.
>
> Hah! I HAD a pet billy goat....my uncle gave it to us, it was his
> watchgoat, then he got a watchdog. Ill tempered, eats anything BUT
> what it's supposed to PITA. I couldn't begin to count the number of
> hours spent painting tar on the fruit trees it debarked.

deer did that to my young trees. I got this Red Maple I had
to build a cage around, it's a small one I bought because it
is pretty and I did not have one of those in my forest that
I could dig up and move to the yard I was creating.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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In article <3EC6C41F...@bellsouth.net>,

Looks like Miz Jenny got herself a Singer Featherweight, one of the finest
portable sewing machines for straight-stitch ever manufactured and in much
demand from discerning quilters years after their manufacture ceased.

As tools go, that's a goodun. I am officially pea-green. Although I love
my not very portable bernina 750 (when I use it, which hasn't been much
lately).

Did you know that if you go to the Singer site and type in the serial
number, they will tell you when that machine was made? (Actually goes for
anything they made.)

Charlotte

Sharon B

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May 18, 2003, 9:16:35 PM5/18/03
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On 17 May 2003 17:07:57 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
<CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <ba6is...@drn.newsguy.com>:

I dunno who that one is.
[not big on star name/face recognition]

[...]


>Glad to see you have been busy today. :-) Nothing is worse
>than opening up newsguy only to find only miguel posts. :-)

<curtsies>
Hopefully you'll find migsee's twisting in the wind more entertaining
in future.

Sharon B

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On Sat, 17 May 2003 19:22:07 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote in <3EC6C41F...@bellsouth.net>:

*snarf*
I was expecting a /dog/. I have an old Singer (in a cabinet-frame).
The guy at the repair shop told me the old ones are better made than
the new ones....something about metal gears instead of
plastic....can't remember.

Sharon B

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On Sun, 18 May 2003 12:29:00 -0400, Jim Ledford <jim...@bellsouth.net>
wrote in <3EC7B4CC...@bellsouth.net>:

>Sharon B wrote:
>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> > Sharon B wrote:
[...]

>blades. you can save a lot of money on blades by out
>sourceing and cross referencing. check these people out
>and see if they carry your blades.
>
>http://www.agri-supply.com/
>
>http://www.agri-supply.com/catmain/2700008.htm

Thank you
[...]


>Go ask John F. for that URL to Harbor Freight Tools. They
>got one tool that you must have and it just happens to be
>on sale till the 26th..

I marked the post with the hyperlink 'kept' :-)

[...]


>OK ROTFLOL I got in a hurry once and forgot to look at the arrow
>on the spray direction. did you know this stuff would make a great
>hair GLUE. only takes a little bit too.

Of course you realize acetone (finger nailpolish remover) does NOT
take it off. I lost half the hide on my hands scrubbing that stuff
off last year.

[...]


>the problem is in the design and can be corrected somewhat by
>raising the height of the deck pulley that takes the PTO V-Belt
>from the motor. these are called deck spindles and you need a
>taller one so when the deck is lowered the angle you describe
>is not as great. with taller replacement spindleS you can fix
>it. question, do you really really really like the tractor.
>answer better be yes because the job is 1/2 day job taking all
>that apart and that's with your new impact wrench.

I have a replacement one for the other tractor that I've managed to
procrastinate putting on for two years now....the old one just snapped
right in half.
[...]


>my recommendation was for oil in the crankcase of the motor. how did
>sears.ghod end up telling you not to put oil ON the tractor? this
>has got the potential to be really funny.

*snarf*
No, just my bad phrasing. Of course he meant in the crank case.

[snippage of your excellent oil discussion, post also marked 'kept'
for future reference]

[...]


>Home Depot checks out the people who do the [how to] work
>shops on Saturday afternoon. I been to a few of them and
>those people were pretty smart in their area of expertise.
>helpful they were. but putting up wall paper still sucks.

*snarf*
I have never had that pleasure, but my drywalling sucks.
[...]


>> Heh. Being unable to sit on the fender for added weight when it gets
>> stuck is a general PITA. The blades still turning if the tractor tips
>> on me will, I'm sure, be the LEAST of my worries.
>
>I'm not recommending that you do that. NO ONE operates mine
>but me so I don't worry about it, though I still wonder who
>the double dumbass was that said we never need to mow in
>reverse. dumbass that one was.

So you can waste more gas and time? Mine mows in reverse.
However, guidelines are not to do horizontal on a >15-degree incline,
so I do a lot of vertical and understand your reverse dilemma.

[...]
[...]


>heavy rain just after a seed planting can be a heart break.
>right now, I'm not even thinking of a second planting because
>I'm already having to water the first planting. I wish we
>had a button we could push and get rain, real rain, from the
>sky and not me toting a bucket.

I would be happy to send you some of ours.

[...]


>strawberries! a friend brough to me today something
>they called strawberry bread. this stuff is way to
>good. seems to be a first cousin to banana bread.

Huh. That's a good idea.

[...]


>use your reverse to make a kind of sort-a
>three point road turn at the end of the row.

That is what I've been trying to do, but it's still a big challenge;
I'm used to just tilting it up and pivoting it, this one is too heavy
and wide for that, and rather than trying to lean over and lay down on
the hill, it tries to drive down the hill. I'm gonna hafta do two
passes on the unbroken ground, and make the first vertical.

[breaking the ice on the water trough]


>did you ever see the animal smile at you for breaking the ice?

No, the pony was too honery and the steer too stupid.
Me and ponies have an agreement....I don't try to ride them, and they
don't try to rub me off on the barbwire.

[...]


>deer did that to my young trees. I got this Red Maple I had
>to build a cage around, it's a small one I bought because it
>is pretty and I did not have one of those in my forest that
>I could dig up and move to the yard I was creating.

<grin>
sounds like somebody ELSE doesn't know when to stop planting, either.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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Sharon B <sha...@lart.com> wrote in message news:<uhfdcv0jqa8avpjh8...@4ax.com>...

> On Sat, 17 May 2003 17:00:29 +0000 (UTC), "Charlotte L. Blackmer"
> <c...@rahul.net> wrote in <ba5prd$rvr$1...@blue.rahul.net>:
>

> [...]
> >What usda zone are you in, not that i think that's a really good
> >indicator?
>
> 7, IIRC.....but I don't base my perennial stuff on that, the low
> temperature range is an average, thus on colder than average winters
> my stuff would die. The saskatoons I got last year, for example, are
> good to -40F.

Yes, the Manitoban outlaws introduced me to saskatoons :-).

I like the Sunset zones since they take a lot into consideration.
Various
USDA maps say I'm 9b, or 10. Most say 9, thus I could grow the same
sort
of things as in Napa ... there's a large overlap but big differences.

Whereas I am solidly in Sunset Zone 17 (Northern and Central CA most-
coastal) and pay attention to what is said about it.

> [...]
> >>What are numbers 1-3 on your List of Things To Be Near Nipples?
> >
> >Lips, skin, fur. In that order. Gotta be careful about #3 since it's often
> >the cat. Who likes to walk on my chest if I'm dumb enough to lie on my
> >back.
> >
> >Broken in cotton of about any kind comes next.
> >
> >The favorite bras have satin linings, which is nice.
>
> Eeewww.....the Ehvul Bra......

Today it's evul, but I haven't had to go anywhere since I got back
from
my shopping run and took my shower earlier. So I'm not wearing it.

> [...]
> >One of the problems with a huge metro area is things get dispersed. I
> >used to find some good stuff when I lived on Nob Hill in San Francisco
> >but I don't have the time or energy to go around poking through
> >consignment stores any more and the old-style outlets are getting
> >squeezed out by upscale retail. Even though almost all of my
> >really smashing dress outfits are from my expeditions.
>
> You know, I've thought the SAME THING? I never see the cool designer
> clothes in the dept stores like I do in the consignment shops.

I'm not even in the department stores very much ... most of them are
too far away for random browsing and I'm tough to fit anyway. That,
and I don't have as much time to shop. There are a couple of women's
wear places that I poke my nose into occasionally to see if they have
something I like.

> [...]

[feets don't fail me now]

> >I should have started using polish earlier :-). I see those burgundy
> >frost nails, it makes me smile. Won't do my hands because of the
> >garden work.
>
> You have to strip it off and apply fresh everyday if you're hard on
> your hands. Days' old chipped polish is so tacky.

Yeah, and on the hands I notice it. Being nearsighted has some
advantages
for the feet. "Barefoot" frequently goes with "not wearing glasses".

> [...]
> >Charlotte (who does own a pair of strappy shoes now and is eyeing
> >cute sandals ... odd since they aren't very practical in this climate)
>
> You need to move to Eden. You can go barefoot.

Heh. All I'd need to do is move over on the other side of the hills.
Sandals weather six months of the year.

I grew up in the Sacramento Valley, where it gets Stinking Hot (one of
the ways I refer to it is "The Land of the Six-Month Summer"). I
still
haven't gotten too annoyed by life in the fogbelt, although I was
peeved
when I thought I would miss the lunar eclipse the other night.

Charlotte

Crash Street Kidd

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In article <jvbgcvck6ees60ph2...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...

>
>On 17 May 2003 17:07:57 -0700, Crash Street Kidd
><CrashSt...@hotmail.com> wrote in <ba6is...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>
>>In article <4u0ccvs4ar4l9g2am...@4ax.com>, Sharon says...
>>>

>>Vin Diesel is all I hear about lately. <rolling eyes!>


>
>I dunno who that one is.
>[not big on star name/face recognition]

He was in Boiler Room, Pitch Black, Saving Private Ryan,
The Fast and the Furious, The Knock Around Guys, A Man
Apart and XXX. He usually plays a smartass. Heir apparent
to Arnold Schwartzenneggar. Sequels are coming out to
Pitch Black and XXX where he is a hipper and younger
James Bond character.

http://www.vindieselworld.com/pictures/_Miscellaneous/Diesel5.shtml
http://www.vindieselworld.com/pictures/_Miscellaneous/Diesel2.shtml

>
>[...]
>>Glad to see you have been busy today. :-) Nothing is worse
>>than opening up newsguy only to find only miguel posts. :-)
>
><curtsies>
>Hopefully you'll find migsee's twisting in the wind more entertaining
>in future.

Let him down easy. He doesn't take rejection well.

Crash Street Kidd

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