that'd be a totally different concept in living life from the yankee
concept of "get there first with the most", or the, "he who dies with the
most toys wins."
on earth we have some societies where forced sharing is managed, by
a form of government known as communism or socialism but I call your
attention to the word 'forced'.
would it not be a grand thing if all who have enough to eat were concerned
about someone other than their self? how about a natural concern and natural
generosity for the needs of others resulting from the oppressions created
and placed upon them by the greed, hate, manipulations and the lies of those
people who are evil and yielded to the evil of satan the devil? how about a
concern for those lost and yielded to the evil of satan the devil?
in times of need created by natural disasters it'd be grand if the rich yankee
could stop and say, "you know, I don't need to spend this large amount of money
on a vacation at an expensive exclusive resort location on MYSELF while there are
PEOPLE who don't have food or the very basic elements of our so called modern
society as a result of a recently occurred natural disaster."
I mean tell me something yankee, just how the fuck can you take a vacation in
times like this!!
how the HELL do you yankee guy-types tune it all out?
do you cover your ears with your guy-man and turn up the tunes so loud it
becomes impossible to think about natural disaster victims or do you yankee
guy-types ever even think about anything other than your own yankee guy-type
self?
________________________________________
some jerk-off yankee just recently, as in like yesterday, informed me of his
up coming vacation. choke on it yankee!
I suppose that would be me. That vacation was paid for months ago and when
I go I will be contributing to the local economy. But it may interest you
to know what I'm taking a vacation from. Most of my time for the past year
has gone into developing a system for the USDA. A system which provides
access to research information on Agriculture. Some of that information has
been locked up in file cabinets and was very difficult to obtain. Now, with
a few clicks of a mouse on a computer those in need of the information can
get it. When I get back from my vacation I will be starting a new project,
one that involves the design of a system which will facilitate the
dissemination of research on wheat, rice, and corn for an international
agency that provides agricultural information for developing countries.
This will be the third project that I will work on with that goal. Because
I work in one the largest agricultural libraries in the world, everything I
do goes toward educating students on improving agricultural nationally and
internationally, or providing information directly to those in the
agriculture industry or agriculture simply for their survival. None of what
I do goes to producing a product that is sold. As I said before I work hard
to earn a few weeks off a year.
I have also made direct monetary contributions to the American Red Cross for
their relief efforts as well as another organization. For the past few days
I have also made donations each time I visit a local store that is sending
cases of water to those in need. What have you done?
> Jim Ledford wrote:
>
> > did you ever stop to consider what it might be like if all people
> > truly cared enough about the needs of others to place others first?
> >
[....]
> But it may interest you
> to know what I'm taking a vacation from. Most of my time for the past year
> has gone into developing a system for the USDA. A system which provides
> access to research information on Agriculture. Some of that information has
> been locked up in file cabinets and was very difficult to obtain. Now, with
> a few clicks of a mouse on a computer those in need of the information can
> get it. When I get back from my vacation I will be starting a new project,
> one that involves the design of a system which will facilitate the
> dissemination of research on wheat, rice, and corn for an international
> agency that provides agricultural information for developing countries.
> This will be the third project that I will work on with that goal. Because
> I work in one the largest agricultural libraries in the world, everything I
> do goes toward educating students on improving agricultural nationally and
> internationally, or providing information directly to those in the
> agriculture industry or agriculture simply for their survival.
[....]
that's all very nice. however I much prefer to think of you
as the very talented craftsman who by the skills contained in
his hands builds beautifully handcrafted boats of exquisite
quality that actually are used and enjoyed by persons who engage
in water sports as well as those who simply appreciate the beauty
of wood put to a good use.
but since you've obtained my curiosity concerning agricultural
information, I'd like to know. has anyone developed a soybean
seed which produces a soybean plant that taste bad to deer?
God makes trees. John F. helps to kill trees.
> but since you've obtained my curiosity concerning agricultural
> information, I'd like to know. has anyone developed a soybean
> seed which produces a soybean plant that taste bad to deer?
If you don't want deer eating your crops, re-introduce the wolf
to North Carolina.
Or better yet, re-introduce the American Lion*, which was extirpated
in North America around 12,000 years ago, apparently when stone-age
human hunters arrived with weapons capable of wiping out many of
the large plant-eaters that fed the exclusive meat-eaters.
*Since there are no more American lions, you would have to cheat
by introducing African lions. Don't worry, deer won't know
the difference. Neither will pets, children, and unarmed adults.
Interestingly, brown and black bears survived the Pleistocene
extinction wave (but not the later post-Columbian wave, in many
areas), possibly because they are omnivores, and thus
did not have to compete as much with humans for food. Polar bears
survived because they live in an environment so harsh that
humans never became numerous there. Even today, for example,
Baffin Island which is about the size of California only supports
about 50,000 people.
-- the Danimal
As you may or may not know the last kayak I built was crushed by a fallen
tree branch (was that Gods way of telling me not to help kill trees?), a
very large tree branch:
http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4939.JPG
http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4938.JPG
As you can see, the kayak was essentially broken in half. When I posted the
pics on a kayak message board I read a well known cedar strip kayak designer
suggested that it could be rebuilt. When I considered the other option;
cutting it up in small pieces and taking it to the dump (as it's covered in
fiberglass I'm not sure I'd want to use it for firewood) I decided to give
it a try. I haven't been able to spend as much time on it as I'd like but
I'm making some progress. I have most of the broken pieces on the hull
replaced. Most of the area around the cockpit needs to be replaced as well.
Once I replaces all the damaged wood with new cedar strips it'll need to be
refiberglassed. I don't see finishing it before it gets too cold to paddle
here so I'll have all winter to finish it for a spring launch.
The guy that sent me email suggesting I rebuild it (actually he also
suggested just building another one) is Nick Schade, founder and designer of
Guillemot kayaks. I had lunch with him several years ago at a kayak
symposium in Maine. One of the boats he recently built is quite a work of
art. In fact, it is now in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC. Take a look at
this beauty.
http://www.woodenkayaks.com/Gallery.html
The Night Heron is the boat that's in the MOMA but the I think that boat
further down on the page (the Aleutesque) is equally as beautiful. Since I
don't expect to finish rebuilding my Outer Island this year I have
considered building a wood seat somewhat like the one in the pictures of the
Night Heron. On the other hand, with all the wood replacement I've got to
do to rebuild it, the hull is not going be as pretty as it once was.
Although I got lot of compliments on how good my Outer Island looks my
primary goal for the boats was to build a design that paddles really well.
I've paddled well over 100 different sea kayak models and I like the way the
Outer Island handles better than any.
>
> but since you've obtained my curiosity concerning agricultural
> information, I'd like to know. has anyone developed a soybean
> seed which produces a soybean plant that taste bad to deer?
I'd have to do a bit of research but you might go to the usda.gov site
directly and see if you can find anything there. I've had problems with
deer eating some of our perennial flowers (they seem to particularly like
tulips and hosta flowers). We used something recommended by Cornell
Plantations (www.plantations.cornell.edu) that has Fox piss in it.
Apparently, deer don't like foxes, and foxes tend to mark bushes/trees, so
if you're plants smell like deer piss, deer will avoid the area.
Ouch. When did this happen, John?
Hope the rebuilding project is successful.
BTW, our hibiscus has papery leaves. The
instructions that came with the plant
recommended to bring it indoors in our
growing region.
> I'd have to do a bit of research but you might go to the usda.gov site
> directly and see if you can find anything there. I've had problems
> with deer eating some of our perennial flowers (they seem to
> particularly like tulips and hosta flowers). We used something
> recommended by Cornell Plantations (www.plantations.cornell.edu) that
> has Fox piss in it. Apparently, deer don't like foxes, and foxes tend
> to mark bushes/trees, so if you're plants smell like deer piss, deer
> will avoid the area.
Thanks for this info. We've been making a list of plants and
flowers that deer don't like [and it's a short list]. Now we
can be more creative with the new house.
I'm pretty sure deer would not like Claymore mines, but I have
not tested this.
-- the Danimal
> John Fereira wrote:
>> http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4939.JPG
>> http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4938.JPG
>
> Ouch. When did this happen, John?
It was a few months ago. We had a big thunderstorm come through. Several
branches from two trees fell into our yard. Here are a couple more shots of
the damage.
http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4951.JPG
http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4952.JPG
In the second one you can see the large tree in the neighbors yard from
which the large branch fell. It broke off about 15' up the trunk. That
tree is now a stump as the neighbor had it cut down after some tree guys
recommended doing so because of the possibility of more breakage. It was a
norwegian maple that had to be 80' high. There's a bigger one in the yard
behind us.
> Hope the rebuilding project is successful.
>
> BTW, our hibiscus has papery leaves. The
> instructions that came with the plant
> recommended to bring it indoors in our
> growing region.
That's considered a tropical hibiscus. This page will tell you more about
them: http://www.trop-hibiscus.com/gindr.html
Rose of Sharon (they're related to hibiscus) do quite well in our zone.
We've got several tall ones along side our garage. In the spring I noticed
that a bunch of offshoots had come up. I pulled up most of them but tried
replanting three of the more hardy ones in an area that was damaged by the
tree fall. A couple of them have flowers on them already.
as I've stated how much I've already admired your displayed
achievements where your talents in the area as a highly skilled
craftsman have been demonstrated as a result of my previously
having viewed your pictures of your hand built kayaks, I can't
begin to express my sorrow as a result of the destruction of such
a beautiful work of art. the only way this could have been any
worse would be if the pictures just viewed by me had shown one
broken in half John Fereira lying beneath the fallen tree limb.
John can make a new kayak, John can even repair the broken kayak,
but we only have one John Fereira with one life to live and God
will not make another exacting John Fereira with the same talents
and abilities to apply those God given talents.
as for your question concerning what God may or may not have
been saying in this one particular instance, well John, I can
only defer to the Word of God since He Himself has already spoken
on the matter of dead and dying limbs still connected to the
tree. I'll reference you to the parable told by Jesus Himself
contained in:
Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh
away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that
it may bring forth more fruit.
Joh 15:3
Joh 15:4
Joh 15:5
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch,
and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire,
and they are burned.
Joh 15:11
[if] an arborist is called to the scene before it's to late
and the proper purging is administered in and with correct
follow up techniques [most] trees can be saved from the
determents brought on by the attacks from invasions such
as insects or disease.
Jesus was and is using a comparison based on the resemblance
between caring for a tree/vine or plant to give the tree/vine
or plant a better more fruitful life. the analogy is to say,
keeping ones self away from that which does not serve God will
increase the real, true and meaningful happiness in ones life
in the here and now.
as with the arborist and the problemed tree humans can be
spared the second death if they call on The Lord Jesus
before it is to late.
some years ago, well ok a lot of years ago when I was much
younger I can remember seeing a sign at the local hardware
store saying "fox urine" sold here and can remember thinking
who the heck would want fox piss and who the heck would pay
for it? time allowed me to be educated in matters concerning
the usefulness of things we most often at first glance think to
be dumb.
you know how most people only see The Lord God Almighty as
something they do not understand and therefore can't understand
how wonderful life can truly be as a result of being educated
or as to say eyes opened with the truth of His gift.
have a good day John,
Jim
How do you know this? Maybe God has already made many other
John Fereiras, each carving out kayaks on their respective worlds
elsewhere in the Universe, not to mention in parallel Universes.
> as for your question concerning what God may or may not have
> been saying in this one particular instance, well John, I can
> only defer to the Word of God since He Himself has already spoken
> on the matter of dead and dying limbs still connected to the
> tree. I'll reference you to the parable told by Jesus Himself
> contained in:
>
> Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Vines are parasites. They exploit the plants that invest
their own resources to grow sturdy stalks and trunks to support
their own weight.
Because vines do not expend resources to hold themselves up,
they are able to grow faster than the trees and bushes they
parasitize, and compete with them for sunshine, soil moisture,
and nutrients.
This is very much like what every religion is like: a tangled
growth that chokes a mind and consumes money and intelligence.
A vine is to a tree what a monkey on a human's back would be
to a human, that is if the money grabbed your food from you
and ate it.
> Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh
> away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that
> it may bring forth more fruit.
>
> Joh 15:3
> Joh 15:4
> Joh 15:5
>
> Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch,
> and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire,
> and they are burned.
>
> Joh 15:11
And much like the rest of your Bible thumping, this has nothing
to do with anything you were talking to John about.
It's obvious the True Vine of Jesus has sucked away your
nutrients and deprived your leaves of sunlight.
> [if] an arborist is called to the scene before it's to late
> and the proper purging is administered in and with correct
> follow up techniques [most] trees can be saved from the
> determents brought on by the attacks from invasions such
> as insects or disease.
Not to mention attacks from vines, which are easy to fix by
killing the vines.
> Jesus was and is using a comparison based on the resemblance
> between caring for a tree/vine or plant to give the tree/vine
> or plant a better more fruitful life. the analogy is to say,
> keeping ones self away from that which does not serve God will
> increase the real, true and meaningful happiness in ones life
> in the here and now.
Trees and vines are very different types of plants. Trees are
producers; vines are parasites.
At least Jesus was being honest when he admitted he is a parasite.
Your faith in Jesus drains away your intellectual and monetary
resources and produces no objective benefits.
Look at all those churches that got blasted to pieces in the
latest hurricane. All that money, utterly wasted! Imagine if
all those ignorant Christians had spent all that money instead
on building stronger houses, after spending a little money to
purchase USGS maps so they could identify land more than 35
feet above sea level and therefore above the reach of hurricane
storm surges. Instead they wasted their time reading the Bible,
praying to God, and building expensive churches. Oh well, at least
they have the Federal Yankee Government to bail them out when
God fails them.
Time and money wasted on religious fantasies is no longer available
to meet the actual human needs of the people with the infantile need
to imagine religious fantasies.
> as with the arborist and the problemed tree humans can be
> spared the second death if they call on The Lord Jesus
> before it is to late.
What if it turns out Islam is correct and Christianity is wrong?
Then you're screwed. You'll be burning in whatever hell Muslims
imagine while Osama bin Laden cavorts with his 72 virgins.
> > As you can see, the kayak was essentially broken in half. When I posted the
> > pics on a kayak message board I read a well known cedar strip kayak designer
> > suggested that it could be rebuilt. When I considered the other option;
> > cutting it up in small pieces and taking it to the dump (as it's covered in
> > fiberglass I'm not sure I'd want to use it for firewood) I decided to give
> > it a try. I haven't been able to spend as much time on it as I'd like but
> > I'm making some progress. I have most of the broken pieces on the hull
> > replaced. Most of the area around the cockpit needs to be replaced as well.
> > Once I replaces all the damaged wood with new cedar strips it'll need to be
> > refiberglassed. I don't see finishing it before it gets too cold to paddle
> > here so I'll have all winter to finish it for a spring launch.
You could try filling it with concrete. Then at least it would
be solid. And who hasn't dreamed of owning his own submarine?
Getting it underwater is the easy part.
> > The guy that sent me email suggesting I rebuild it (actually he also
> > suggested just building another one) is Nick Schade, founder and designer of
> > Guillemot kayaks.
Isn't that a bird?
> > I had lunch with him several years ago at a kayak
> > symposium in Maine. One of the boats he recently built is quite a work of
> > art. In fact, it is now in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC. Take a look at
> > this beauty.
> >
> > http://www.woodenkayaks.com/Gallery.html
> >
> > The Night Heron is the boat that's in the MOMA but the I think that boat
> > further down on the page (the Aleutesque) is equally as beautiful.
To a rogue walrus, it's a beautiful lunchbox.
> some years ago, well ok a lot of years ago when I was much
> younger I can remember seeing a sign at the local hardware
> store saying "fox urine" sold here and can remember thinking
> who the heck would want fox piss and who the heck would pay
> for it?
Fox piss is more useful than a Bible. Put some Bibles out in
your yard and see if the deer stay away.
> time allowed me to be educated in matters concerning
> the usefulness of things we most often at first glance think to
> be dumb.
What about things that look dumber the more you glance at
them? For example the Bible? The Bible teaches people to
doubt reality and believe their imaginations instead. It also
says the Earth is flat and the Sun goes around the Earth,
and that God created everything in six days. What a stupid
book.
Jim, do you believe the part in the Bible that says we should
stone people to death for working on the Sabbath?
Or like Thomas Jefferson do you edit the Bible to get rid of
the parts you don't like?
> you know how most people only see The Lord God Almighty as
> something they do not understand and therefore can't understand
> how wonderful life can truly be as a result of being educated
> or as to say eyes opened with the truth of His gift.
Can The Lord God Almighty make your life wonderful enough
so you no longer feel bothered by yankees?
-- the Danimal
> Jim Ledford wrote:
[....]
>
> > you know how most people only see The Lord God Almighty as
> > something they do not understand and therefore can't understand
> > how wonderful life can truly be as a result of being educated
> > or as to say eyes opened with the truth of His gift.
>
> Can The Lord God Almighty make your life wonderful enough
> so you no longer feel bothered by yankees?
I love you Dan. Jesus did that for me and in me.
Jim
>
> -- the Danimal
Can the Lord God Almighty give you the courage to answer
a question rather than evade it?
You keep talking about this wonderful life you have while
behaving shamefully.
You don't seem to understand what being a witness is about.
First you have to do something that people admire. Then when
people ask how you did it, you can give the glory to God.
But before you can give the glory to God, you have to get
some glory first.
So far, you haven't done anything glorious on Usenet.
Why don't you go down to the Red Cross shelter and mop floors
for the Katrina victims or something? There's Katrina victims
near you, I'm sure.
-- the Danimal
> Can the Lord God Almighty give you the courage to answer
> a question rather than evade it?
all things are gifts from the Lord God Almighty. I have nothing.
>
> You keep talking about this wonderful life you have while
> behaving shamefully.
I'm glad I've not promoted as in advertised myself as prefect.
to have done so would sure have been a mistake. I've made my
mistakes in many other ways.
>
> You don't seem to understand what being a witness is about.
> First you have to do something that people admire. Then when
> people ask how you did it, you can give the glory to God.
God is the only glory, grace, mercy and He is
the origin of life, the good life.
>
> But before you can give the glory to God, you have to get
> some glory first.
God is the only glory. just because people no longer toss
trash up there in the front yard where God has provided for
me to live I can't see or say how I got glory. I see no
trash and I know God did that because I turned to him and
asked for His help. God is the only glory.
>
> So far, you haven't done anything glorious on Usenet.
>
> Why don't you go down to the Red Cross shelter and mop floors
> for the Katrina victims or something? There's Katrina victims
> near you, I'm sure.
yep.
>
> -- the Danimal
Published: Sep 13, 2005
Modified: Sep 13, 2005 3:00 AM
Fouled Falls Lake
As a longtime resident of Raleigh, I am appalled at the
continuing degradation of the area in the Falls Lake
watershed.
For years, my family and I have hiked the various trails
and taken our dogs to the lake to swim. Unfortunately,
the condition of the land surrounding the lake has become
nothing less than a dumping ground for trash. A few years
ago, my daughter submitted a school report, complete with
pictures, detailing the condition of the area. Unfortunately,
conditions have worsened.
During our trips, which have become less frequent, we have
found trash bags, bottles, cigarette packs, food wrappers,
fishing line, fishing hooks, rotting fish and even human
feces, complete with toilet paper. As the population of
Raleigh continues to grow, the waters of Falls Lake
continue to worsen.
Since America is such a beautiful place, let's try to
keep it that way. Perhaps an organized cleanup of the
area can be mobilized and laws enacted and/or enforced
to prevent this continued ruining of this area. It
baffles me to explain the mind-set of a person who
would destroy an area that he eventually needs as a
water supply.
_______ end cut and paste from local news paper _________
Dan, when I made my statementS concerning yankees and their trash
landing in my front yard I pulled no punch, I used NO soft-speak.
Dan, I've traveled all over america many many times and seen
repeatedly how in the north there's a lot less concern for the land.
many situations up there in the north are on a list, a list referred
to as cleanup sites. can you say super fund. super fund is the result
of lawyer-guy-speak doing the cover up work for "rich, self centered and
only concerned about their needs - yankees". it's lawyer-guy and his
golf-guy buddies who trashed the land working in collusion with one
another to ensure we the tax payer are stuck with the cleanup cost.
say super fund Dan.
myself "behaving shamefully" DAMN RIGHT I'm PISSED OFF!!! anger
is of the flesh and the flesh is of sin. angry I am about a trashy
people spreading their trashing of the land way of life outside of
their already trashed home point of origin....
if yankees were not all about seeking cheap labor to work in their
factories, we'd never have seen a yankee here in North Carolina.
God help Asia!
Dan, you seem to be of the impression that one who is Christian
should sit back and say nothing while a desecration is being
perpetrated upon someone or something. you are wrong! dead wrong!
I will call your attention to The Lord Jesus and how He ran the
money changers out of His Father's House. fashioned a weapon Jesus
did in order to do so and for damn good reason...
Joh 2:14
Joh 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove
them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured
out the changers money, and overthrew the tables;
Joh 2:16
Joh 2:17
zeal - : eagerness and ardent interest in pursuit of something
:fervor syn see passion
> > >
> > > I love you Dan. Jesus did that for me and in me.
though I hate with a loathing repugnance and possess an abhorrence
for what the people do in their actions. the power of The Lord Jesus
has granted to me the ability to separate the sin from the sinner and
to love the sinner while at the same time having a disinclination for
the sin.
on the nation news tonight it was reported how local authorities
in ohio found and rescued children in foster care who were being
kept in cages. seems some foster homes aren't up to normal
moral standards...
>
> >
> > -- the Danimal
>Dan, when I made my statementS concerning yankees and their trash
>landing in my front yard I pulled no punch, I used NO soft-speak.
this statementS is consistent with calling me orangehair yankee filth.
>Dan, I've traveled all over america many many times and seen
>repeatedly how in the north there's a lot less concern for the land.
NOLA dryland wept
>many situations up there in the north are on a list, a list referred
>to as cleanup sites. can you say super fund. super fund is the result
>of lawyer-guy-speak doing the cover up work for "rich, self centered and
>only concerned about their needs - yankees". it's lawyer-guy and his
>golf-guy buddies who trashed the land working in collusion with one
>another to ensure we the tax payer are stuck with the cleanup cost.
>say super fund Dan.
seeing dan say "super fund" in compliance with the text blok above
would be a real treat.
cbianco
> uncareful jim wrote:
>
[....]
> >say super fund Dan.
>
> seeing dan say "super fund" in compliance with the text blok above
> would be a real treat.
do you remember Mr. Rogers?
>
> cbianco
ATSDR - Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry / U.S....
Charged under U.S. CERCLA statute to assess the presence and nature
of health hazards at Superfund sites and to help reduce further exposures.
www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ |
> >say super fund Dan.
>
> seeing dan say "super fund" in compliance with the text blok above
> would be a real treat.
all right Cbianco, after allowing my thoughts on your statement
I'm now FORCED out of my curiosity to ask you. were you more
amused by the lowercase 's' or the "uncareful" space in-between
the letters [r & f]?
http://www.peakenglish.com/
all about attempting to make things better by doing better.
what is Superfund [Web Answer]
Superfund is the common name for a set of laws that establishes
a multi-billion dollar fund to pay for remediation of toxic waste
sites left by companies that are unwilling or unable to pay.
Environmental law is a body of law which addresses the system
of complex and interlocking rules which seeks to protect from
destruction or development the natural environment which may
be endangered by human encroachment.
>
> cbianco
ROTFLMAO
Dan, back before we got yankees our pet dogs ran free and lose.
they went where they pleased, visited their friends and then
came back home. we even had town-dog who sat in front of the
post office underneath the shade tree just smiling at Southern
people as they passed him by with a friendly hello. then, we
got yankees. shortly after we got yankees we got leash laws -
an ordinance requiring dogs to be restrained when not confined
to their owner's property. then after that we were required to
take seriously the word 'confined' by use of penning or chaining
the dog while on their owner's property. to enforce the penning
or chaining of the dog the yankees who gave us leash laws raised
our taxes to hire an animal control officer, fancy words, for a
dog catcher who can trespass... anyhow Dan, I'm sure our yankees
will not allow the reintroduction of the wolf in North Carolina
since our yankees have exhibited an extreme fear of domesticated
dogs of a variety of breeds.
Dan, you most likely over looked the fact of the matter being we
have yankees here now in North Carolina and how yankees are scared
of stuff... I did like your suggestion even though it won't fly.
> Or better yet, re-introduce the American Lion*, which was extirpated
> in North America around 12,000 years ago, apparently when stone-age
> human hunters arrived with weapons capable of wiping out many of
> the large plant-eaters that fed the exclusive meat-eaters.
>
> *Since there are no more American lions, you would have to cheat
> by introducing African lions. Don't worry, deer won't know
> the difference. Neither will pets, children, and unarmed adults.
>
> Interestingly, brown and black bears survived the Pleistocene
> extinction wave (but not the later post-Columbian wave, in many
> areas), possibly because they are omnivores, and thus
> did not have to compete as much with humans for food. Polar bears
> survived because they live in an environment so harsh that
> humans never became numerous there. Even today, for example,
> Baffin Island which is about the size of California only supports
> about 50,000 people.
good read, thanks Dan.
>
> -- the Danimal
> the Danimal wrote:
>>
>> Jim Ledford wrote:
>> > that's all very nice. however I much prefer to think of you
>> > as the very talented craftsman who by the skills contained in
>> > his hands builds beautifully handcrafted boats of exquisite
>> > quality that actually are used and enjoyed by persons who engage
>> > in water sports as well as those who simply appreciate the beauty of
>> > wood put to a good use.
>>
>> God makes trees. John F. helps to kill trees.
>>
>> > but since you've obtained my curiosity concerning agricultural
>> > information, I'd like to know. has anyone developed a soybean seed
>> > which produces a soybean plant that taste bad to deer?
>>
>> If you don't want deer eating your crops, re-introduce the wolf to
>> North Carolina.
>
> ROTFLMAO
I've actually seen more red fox on the outer banks than I've seen deer. In
the area where I've seen deer (Alligator River National Wildlife Refuge)
there is also small population of red wolf. I've never seen one but last I
was kayaking there and didn't see another person for several hours but did
see this: http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/Alligator/alligator2.jpg
[yankee bashing snipped]
damn that alligator must be 20 foot long.
turtoni - awesome.
I'm pretty sure Southern slavers shot all the wolves they could
shoot---which must have been purt-near all of them, given the
Southern man's marksmanship---long before yankees invaded the
Southern slave states and forcibly introduced Southern slavers
to the 19th century.
> Dan, you most likely over looked the fact of the matter being we
> have yankees here now in North Carolina and how yankees are scared
> of stuff... I did like your suggestion even though it won't fly.
When your ancestors weren't whipping and raping their black slaves,
they were shooting wolves. So don't try to pin this one on the
yankees.
> > Or better yet, re-introduce the American Lion*, which was extirpated
> > in North America around 12,000 years ago, apparently when stone-age
> > human hunters arrived with weapons capable of wiping out many of
> > the large plant-eaters that fed the exclusive meat-eaters.
> >
> > *Since there are no more American lions, you would have to cheat
> > by introducing African lions. Don't worry, deer won't know
> > the difference. Neither will pets, children, and unarmed adults.
> >
> > Interestingly, brown and black bears survived the Pleistocene
> > extinction wave (but not the later post-Columbian wave, in many
> > areas), possibly because they are omnivores, and thus
> > did not have to compete as much with humans for food. Polar bears
> > survived because they live in an environment so harsh that
> > humans never became numerous there. Even today, for example,
> > Baffin Island which is about the size of California only supports
> > about 50,000 people.
>
> good read, thanks Dan.
Do you know why pronghorns are the second-fastest land animal?
Because up until about 12,000 years ago, they had to run from the
fastest land animal: the American cheetah.
Today pronghorns are much faster than the fastest predators they
still have to run from.
-- the Danimal
> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > the Danimal wrote:
> >> Jim Ledford wrote:
> >> > that's all very nice. however I much prefer to think of you
> >> > as the very talented craftsman who by the skills contained in
> >> > his hands builds beautifully handcrafted boats of exquisite
> >> > quality that actually are used and enjoyed by persons who engage
> >> > in water sports as well as those who simply appreciate the beauty of
> >> > wood put to a good use.
> >>
> >> God makes trees. John F. helps to kill trees.
> >>
> >> > but since you've obtained my curiosity concerning agricultural
> >> > information, I'd like to know. has anyone developed a soybean seed
> >> > which produces a soybean plant that taste bad to deer?
> >>
> >> If you don't want deer eating your crops, re-introduce the wolf to
> >> North Carolina.
> >
> > ROTFLMAO
>
> I've actually seen more red fox on the outer banks than I've seen deer. In
> the area where I've seen deer (Alligator River National Wildlife Refuge)
> there is also small population of red wolf. I've never seen one but last I
> was kayaking
the Nantahala, a kayaking or kayaker's paradise...
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Published: Sep 16, 2005
Modified: Sep 16, 2005 3:00 AM
Ivan and our bridge
If you think the people affected by Hurricane Katrina received
a slow response -- we still have no help from Hurricane Ivan of
last year!
Our area in Macon County was devastated by the storm, and still
the residents on our road cannot get to their homes. The bridge
was washed out that leads to homes on Community Circle. This is
a fairly large and somewhat expensive bridge and the residents
cannot afford to replace it by themselves. It is considered private
and not only leads to homes but also the Nantahala Community Club
and the abandoned county EMS station.
The property owners have applied to FEMA and to the state for
replacement of the bridge. FEMA has rejected us, as has the
state Department of Transportation. N.C. Emergency Management
has told us every month for the past 12 months that they will
replace the bridge, and soon. But it is still in the same
condition that the storm left it a year ago.
We cannot get answers to our questions as to when it will be
replaced or any indication of how to get it done. Emergency
Management tells us that it is so tied up in red tape that
there may be nothing they can do. Now our calls and e-mails
go unanswered. In the meantime the elderly residents have to
live elsewhere in rented rooms while they wait for something
to happen.
Community Circle Homeowners
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hurrican Ivan, western NC year 2004.
> there and didn't see another person for several hours but did
> see this: http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/Alligator/alligator2.jpg
>
> [yankee bashing snipped]
our occupiers make the rules. sometimes the truth
hurts went viewed through the eyes of the oppressed.
> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > the Danimal wrote:
> > > If you don't want deer eating your crops, re-introduce the wolf
> > > to North Carolina.
> >
> > ROTFLMAO
> >
> > Dan, back before we got yankees our pet dogs ran free and lose.
> > they went where they pleased, visited their friends and then
> > came back home. we even had town-dog who sat in front of the
> > post office underneath the shade tree just smiling at Southern
> > people as they passed him by with a friendly hello. then, we
> > got yankees. shortly after we got yankees we got leash laws -
> > an ordinance requiring dogs to be restrained when not confined
> > to their owner's property. then after that we were required to
> > take seriously the word 'confined' by use of penning or chaining
> > the dog while on their owner's property. to enforce the penning
> > or chaining of the dog the yankees who gave us leash laws raised
> > our taxes to hire an animal control officer, fancy words, for a
> > dog catcher who can trespass... anyhow Dan, I'm sure our yankees
> > will not allow the reintroduction of the wolf in North Carolina
> > since our yankees have exhibited an extreme fear of domesticated
> > dogs of a variety of breeds.
>
> I'm pretty sure Southern slavers shot all the wolves they could
> shoot---which must have been purt-near all of them, given the
> Southern man's marksmanship---long before yankees invaded the
> Southern slave states and forcibly introduced Southern slavers
> to the 19th century.
sounds like a truth concerning the events of
1865 - 1877 or somewhere there about in time.
>
> > Dan, you most likely over looked the fact of the matter being we
> > have yankees here now in North Carolina and how yankees are scared
> > of stuff... I did like your suggestion even though it won't fly.
>
> When your ancestors weren't whipping and raping their black slaves,
> they were shooting wolves. So don't try to pin this one on the
> yankees.
Dan, the yankee occupiers of the here and now made their
leash laws in the year 2001, implemented in the year 2002
and got real serious about enforcement in the year 2004.
that's like life in the here and now. not in the life of
long time ago. ok.
I understand the wolves of yesterday were exterminated
by Billy-Ray-Bob telling Stevi-Ray-Bob "see that wolf
347 yards over yonder, bet'ya I can put his left eye out."
it's not like they had TV to sit in the house and watch.
you know?
>
> > > Or better yet, re-introduce the American Lion*, which was extirpated
> > > in North America around 12,000 years ago, apparently when stone-age
> > > human hunters arrived with weapons capable of wiping out many of
> > > the large plant-eaters that fed the exclusive meat-eaters.
> > >
> > > *Since there are no more American lions, you would have to cheat
> > > by introducing African lions. Don't worry, deer won't know
> > > the difference. Neither will pets, children, and unarmed adults.
> > >
> > > Interestingly, brown and black bears survived the Pleistocene
> > > extinction wave (but not the later post-Columbian wave, in many
> > > areas), possibly because they are omnivores, and thus
> > > did not have to compete as much with humans for food. Polar bears
> > > survived because they live in an environment so harsh that
> > > humans never became numerous there. Even today, for example,
> > > Baffin Island which is about the size of California only supports
> > > about 50,000 people.
> >
> > good read, thanks Dan.
>
> Do you know why pronghorns are the second-fastest land animal?
no.
>
> Because up until about 12,000 years ago, they had to run from the
> fastest land animal: the American cheetah.
>
> Today pronghorns are much faster than the fastest predators they
> still have to run from.
it be pretty cool if a pronghorn would stand it's ground
and tell'em enough of this running crap, we're going to
fight if you don't move on to something else.
but animals don't usually do that...
>
> -- the Danimal
It was probably about half that. According to this they only get to be
about 12'.
http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/paddle/Alligator/eliobx00379.JPG
I was about 25' away from it before I first saw it though. I had read a
paddling routes book which described the area a couple of weeks earlier and
the author said that while there are Alligators in the Alligator River
National Wildlife Refuge that he had never seen one in paddling there for
five years.