Childhood Spanking Stories
Mija
Forgive me for trying to make some sense of this
current flamewar. I'm still trying to understand
what it's about.
I'm not sure what's hard to understand -- threads on
whether or not children should be spanked are discouraged
here. I think this is a good thing -- there's already
a newsgroup devoted to just that topic. A little
flamy, but it's a hot topic.
But stories about the spanking of children, sexual abuse
and torture of children *are* very much on-topic and
generally quite welcome here, or at least were last time
I checked. And amen. I know they aren't everyone's cup
of tea, but then, no story here is right for everyone.
Label it DebPorn or edgy or whatever -- if it says that
and M/f -- it'll be the first story I open.
For me, before I started reading ASS and then SSS, it
never occurred to me that anyone had spanking fantasies
about adults. Mine had always been about child spankings
and generally with me imagining being the child. Having
read Frued's essay "A Child is Being Beaten," I assumed
that was the case for most everyone who was into spanking.
Reading this thread has brought back the question to me,
why do I have fantasies (and generally prefer stories)
about children being spanked in an abusive way by their
parents?
For me, the most submissive, vulnerable and powerless I
can imagine anyone being is as a child. And so seeing myself
as a child is identifying with the submissive position
-- the most powerless I can imagine anyone being. The power
is abused then, sometimes in the name of love and discipline,
sometimes in the case of Swen, Debbie Ann or Leslie, just
because.
Or it could be that my spanking fantasies started when I
was so young (2 or 3) that by the time I was 12, they were
as complex as they were ever really going to get. I'm not
sure. What I'm sure of is that it doesn't make me a pedophile
and that what I read and write isn't kiddyporn. I don't
have children nor do I intend to (I tend to be more of a
pedophobe!) but I know I wouldn't abuse my kids -- cp is
something between adults RL and for children only in fiction.
I don't think everyone should like or even read stories about
child spanking, sexual abuse or whatever. But as Tasha Geller
wrote once, please don't interfer with my right to be a
sexually abused child as far as my fantasies go.
OTOH, if we want to start a thread on why we like kid spanking
stories, I think it would be a *huge* improvement over the
other one running.
Peace,
Mija
'That wimp-ass knight never comes out of the castle to fight
me for bowl dominion. So I must continue patrolling, for I
am Lord and Master!" - The Goldfish
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mrslipper
Mija wrote:
>
> Forgive me for trying to make some sense of this
> current flamewar. I'm still trying to understand
> what it's about.
The flame war was about someone posting a horribly obvious troll and
then getting off on the "war" it provoked.
As to the rest of your post:
For my part - and what a lovely part it is - I enjoy reading, and
writing about child spankings for a very simple reason: They take me to
an imaginary place, a place where life is simple: if you are naughty,
you get spanked. Many of us lead complicated lives, lives where we are
forced to justify our actions and take responsibility for their
consequences. Sometimes we need to reach deep into our fantasies to
allow us to gain absolution in whatever way we can. Surely it is no
coincidence that many people in positions of power and responsibility
have D/s fantasies
Funnily enough, as a fan of many of your stories, I've never read any
element of abuse into them, they just seem to remind me of a simpler
time. Most of your writings seem to contain a great deal of love.
I was first inspired to write here by Carolina Jim's tales, stories that
seemed to me to be full of love and discipline.
I don't believe that kids should ever be spanked IN REAL LIFE. I just
can't help getting that "squishy feeling" whenever I remember either
getting a spanking myself, or seeing another kid get spanked. Call it
what you will, analyse it if you must, but that's just who I am now and
that is just how I feel. I couldn't begin to count the number of posters
I've seen here who feel a great weight lifted from their shoulders when
they discover this NG and find others who feel the same as they do.
We have a kink and this is where we share it. My problem with Leslie
Morgan's post was not the substance of the post - she asked a question
and was given an emphatic answer, NO! - but the fact that her post was
such a pathetic troll.
So yanno what, I'm going to continue having my fantasies about childhood
spankings, safe in the knowledge that no child, nobody, is ever going to
be hurt by them. I will continue to write my stories because I LOVE
writing them and I'm gonna continue to read Mija's stuff cus she writes
a good yarn.
Cheers
James
Starship
>
> Forgive me for trying to make some sense of this
> current flamewar. I'm still trying to understand
> what it's about.
Don't ask me. I mainly just come here to read the stories, occasionally
post a story of my own (I've got another one about Carly Campbell in the
final proofreading stage) and flirt with the sexy spanko chicks.
--
Starship
Note: The author of this post wishes to express his appreciation and
thanks to the SSS moderators for their hard work on behalf of the
newsgroup.
Daisy
Mija <mij...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> Forgive me for trying to make some sense of this
> current flamewar. I'm still trying to understand
> what it's about.
>
>
> I'm not sure what's hard to understand -- threads on
> whether or not children should be spanked are discouraged
> here. I think this is a good thing -- there's already
> a newsgroup devoted to just that topic. A little
> flamy, but it's a hot topic.
>
when all parents spanked their kids because it was considered
the right thing to do. What if my father did feel aroused when
he spanked me. Might I have picked up on his arousal and so
picked up the spanking fetish? It is not fun to think about but
it makes more sense to me than the heredity theory. The
genome program is not going to discover a spanking gene or
any fetish gene. If my father did feel aroused when he spanked
me, I do not think he did anything wrong. I cannot assign a
value judgment to feelings and parents were not enlightened in
child rearing techniques back then. Today maybe the fact that a
fetish might be passed on to a child is another good reason not
to spank kids. Being kinky is not the worst thing in the world,
but it is another reason to feel isolated and kids have enough
of that trash already.
>
> But stories about the spanking of children, sexual abuse
> and torture of children *are* very much on-topic and
> generally quite welcome here, or at least were last time
> I checked. And amen. I know they aren't everyone's cup
> of tea, but then, no story here is right for everyone.
> Label it DebPorn or edgy or whatever -- if it says that
> and M/f -- it'll be the first story I open.
>
> For me, before I started reading ASS and then SSS, it
> never occurred to me that anyone had spanking fantasies
> about adults. Mine had always been about child spankings
> and generally with me imagining being the child. Having
> read Frued's essay "A Child is Being Beaten," I assumed
> that was the case for most everyone who was into spanking.
>
> Reading this thread has brought back the question to me,
> why do I have fantasies (and generally prefer stories)
> about children being spanked in an abusive way by their
> parents?
>
but my actual memories of being spanked are few and vague.
It is an activity entwined in childhood. Mine is a child's fetish.
The severity of my fantasies varies with my mood.
>
> For me, the most submissive, vulnerable and powerless I
> can imagine anyone being is as a child. And so seeing myself
> as a child is identifying with the submissive position
> -- the most powerless I can imagine anyone being. The power
> is abused then, sometimes in the name of love and discipline,
> sometimes in the case of Swen, Debbie Ann or Leslie, just
> because.
>
> Or it could be that my spanking fantasies started when I
> was so young (2 or 3) that by the time I was 12, they were
> as complex as they were ever really going to get. I'm not
> sure. What I'm sure of is that it doesn't make me a pedophile
> and that what I read and write isn't kiddyporn. I don't
> have children nor do I intend to (I tend to be more of a
> pedophobe!) but I know I wouldn't abuse my kids -- cp is
> something between adults RL and for children only in fiction.
>
"adult spanking" whatever that means. Master-slave stories
hold no interest. The juvenile-adult dynamic is what works for me.
I do not think my preferences make me a pedophile but I wonder
about people who throw that accusation around. OTOH I find
traditional porn disgusting for the most part. I hate the
"dripping gizz - shot my load" goo of Penthouse letters and
anything else written that is intended to be vulgar. I know some
people get off on crudity but for me it is a turn off.
>
> I don't think everyone should like or even read stories about
> child spanking, sexual abuse or whatever. But as Tasha Geller
> wrote once, please don't interfer with my right to be a
> sexually abused child as far as my fantasies go.
>
>
> OTOH, if we want to start a thread on why we like kid spanking
> stories, I think it would be a *huge* improvement over the
> other one running.
>
and school lunch rooms. It all brings me back to a time when I did
not think to question why I felt this way or that way. I love
stories that pull the little girl strings and bring back the
feelings, even the scary feelings, especially the scary feelings,
that came with no prompting way back when. I like being the
innocent and that is a potent fantasy, an innocent child unfairly
punished or abused.
I have long involved fantasy about an isolated community where
girls are taught male dominance and are taught to associate
spanking with orgasm. The training starts when they are very
little girls and continues through adolescence. I won't go into
detail but most people here would probably find it to be a
twisted trip. It is my trip and I go wherever I please in
fantasies.
Daisy
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Leslie Morgan
To Daisy:
If your father's arousal while spanking you resulted in your child
spanking fetish, it may not be a bad thing that happened. Think how we
value our fetishes.
I was never hit and I have friends who were not. Some of those never
hit have a spanking fetish. I was born in forty eight but even thirty
years later I would see educated fathers and mothers giving children as
young as two a sharp smack every few minutes as unacceptable behavior
was exhibited. Even then it angered me but I never understood that the
proper course of action would have been to intercede.
Leslie Morgan
To Daisy:
I also have the innocent punished child fantasies. I reposted three
stories involving these fantasies to the group earlier this afernoon.
They involve a school setting.
domino
>To me, the above is a legitimate topic, and not the same as the one that's
>discouraged. You read and hear a certain number of anecdotes about people being
>turned on by spanking children. If it's part of one's childhood memories, why
>not discuss it?
I agree...
>I do agree very strongly with discouraging the topic of spanking as discipline
>for real-life children. A sexuality board is IMO not the place to discuss your
>parenting (or teaching) issues. I suppose there are ways your sexuality can
>affect your decisions as a parent, but I still think a parenting board is a
>better place to discuss that.
I've often wondered over the past few years if that was one of the
reasons we were never spanked. I have this half-memory (I do not
remember if it is a memory or a remembered dream) of walking in on my
parents to find daddy spanking mummy..... Was that at least part of
the reason we were never spanked..... I mean we got the odd smack,
and my mother would use her belt to separate us when we got into a
fistfight, but I dont' remember one single incident of our father
smacking us.
Domino
domino
>You got into fistfights? I'm impressed. :)
yep - me and my younger (by 2 years) sister. We were either best
friends or deadly enemies (and usually the latter :-)
>Seriously, that is interesting.
why so?
>I remember some character in an Iris Murdoch novel being told by his dotty
>father that spanking him was his only sexual outlet for years-- or something
>like that. I keep worrying that when my father finally goes completely gaga
>he'll start saying things like that all over the place. That would be really
>weird.
yes..... which brings us back to the original question of whether
it's ok to spank your kids if you have a fetish for it....
>I do remember him threatening to beat my mother with a hairbrush (when he
>didn;t think anyone could hear) but it was clearly not a sexual thing: just
>plain old wife-beating. :(
:-(
love
domino
domino
>I think you're the second person or so I've seen post about their parents
>engaging in spanking play. Since spanking play is very common, in some ways I'm
>surprised there are not more anecdotes of that kind.
Most people of my parent's generation don't talk about their sex lives
though.
(LOL! - it wasn't till the night before my wedding when I was three
months pregnant that my mother tried to tell me about the mechanics of
love-making :-)))
>I've always wondered, when it comes out about some adult being into it, what
>their children make of it *particularly* if they spanked their children. Like
>with the news items people occasionally post about public figures. Do their
>kids read them and think: "Gosh, I wonder if he was getting off on it when he
>spanked me." Or do they just consider it two completely separate things?
Well, call me paranoid, but if my dad had ritually spanked us, and I
later found out he was a spanko I would be convinced that he'd been
getting off on it....
love
domino