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>OK, this past weekend I was punishing my naughty little girl, and as part of
>the discipline, I attempted to give her tight little doo doo hole a few
>strokes with the Loopy Johnny. Each attempt was blocked when she could not
>control the urge to clench. Because of this, I know that I must now purchase
>a device that will keep her cheeks spread WIDE apart, allowing me full
>access to her bummy hole. Can anyone here offer any advice on where I can
>find such a device? I'll need this by Memorial Day weekend.
Well - this is a most inelegant solution, but I've often wondered
whether a couple bits of duct tape would do the job....
love
Domino
Good quality medical adhesive tape might do better (and the adhesive will
be less likely to cause skin problems). It worked pretty well for keeping
parts of Liz accessible when she had to have genital electrolysis before
her surgery. The other alternatives I know of are for her to reach back
and hold herself open or to enlist the aid of a third party to do the
holding open. Gloves could be worn to protect the hands of whoever is
doing the holding.:-) One could also try applying mineral ice to the sides
of the groove, which certainly encourages me to keep mine open!;-)
Hugs,
Rosy... who knows little z tries hard to be brave, but sometimes we need a
little help.:-)
> OK, this past weekend I was punishing my naughty little girl, and as part of
> the discipline, I attempted to give her tight little doo doo hole a few
> strokes with the Loopy Johnny. Each attempt was blocked when she could not
> control the urge to clench. Because of this, I know that I must now purchase
> a device that will keep her cheeks spread WIDE apart, allowing me full
> access to her bummy hole. Can anyone here offer any advice on where I can
> find such a device? I'll need this by Memorial Day weekend.
OMG!! You posted this!!
Daddy, everyone is going to think I am a naughty girl now. I was a VERY
good girl all weekend, and Julie was on the (w)hole a cooperative anus as
well. Just because my anus has an aversion to being stung with that HATEFUL
loopy johnny is no reason to embarrass me in front of all my friends!
I tried to hold her open, remain on my knees, Julie facing up, and stoically
not complain, but then when you would bend over and take aim, and I could
feel you standing and peering right at Julie and hear that swishing of the
loopy behind me - well, Julie would just grab hold of my butt cheeks and
draw them in, and my legs would clamp together and I would fall face down on
the bed and cry!
I have taken licks before like that, but it's SO HARD, it takes weeks of
warming up mentally. :(
Do you remember the night this weekend, after you had birched me, (most
severely I might add..oh it was great) and I was floating, and I said "If
there is ANYTHING you want to do, ANYTHING - now is the time, because I
could do ANYTHING right now." ? Well, THAT would have been the time to
loopy Julie! Then again.... It might have brought me out of bliss, you
just never know with Julie.
Well, at least Julie cooperated during the bedtime flossing of her tooth.
::grin::
Daddy, let's face it, you are just a very mean demented perverted MAN.
love,
zoey
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> Well - this is a most inelegant solution, but I've often wondered
> whether a couple bits of duct tape would do the job....
>
> love
> Domino
Uncle Herbie always has duct tape. :( Julie can be a very vain anus
though, so perhaps a duct tape in a bright festive color?
I really want to be good, I REALLY DOOOOOOOO.
::starting to whine again::
I just got an idea... maybe if I put something numbing on my hiney first, I
wouldn't be as afraid. :) Of course..if Daddy knew that it didn't HURT, he
would be cranky. Oh dear - I am doomed.
hugs,
z
pe
>
> Good quality medical adhesive tape might do better (and the adhesive will
> be less likely to cause skin problems). It worked pretty well for keeping
> parts of Liz accessible when she had to have genital electrolysis before
> her surgery. The other alternatives I know of are for her to reach back
> and hold herself open or to enlist the aid of a third party to do the
> holding open. Gloves could be worn to protect the hands of whoever is
> doing the holding.:-) One could also try applying mineral ice to the sides
> of the groove, which certainly encourages me to keep mine open!;-)
>
> Hugs,
>
> Rosy... who knows little z tries hard to be brave, but sometimes we need a
> little help.:-)
Hi Rosy.
I guess you saw what my very MEAN Daddy posted this morning. I was hoping
he would only post about all the brave things I did this weekend, but OHHHH
NOOOOO Mr Meanie Sir had to go and tell everyone about the one really BAD
thing I did, where I refused to LISTEN. I really felt terrible that I was
such a naughty girl, and couldn't stay in position. :(
I don't want to have a sore hiney from duct tape, and get a rash. Yuck. So
the medical tape might be better, but I like the idea of someone holding my
bummy open for daddy, too. It would have to be someone strict yet fair just
like Daddy. Someone who wouldn't laugh at me or make fun of me. Someone
who understood that I was trying and wanting to be a good girl. Someone
who isn't afraid of my sharp teeth. I wonder if we have time to clone
Daddy a twin before Memorial Day?
hugs,
z
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> You rang? But of course I have a way to do that at minimal expense
> and maximum embarrassment to Zoey. I'll post about it later as I have
> to run right now.
WHAT?????? Don't go and leave me waiting! I can't take this!
::faints::
>t would have to be someone strict yet fair just
>like Daddy. Someone who wouldn't laugh at me or make fun of me. Someone
>who understood that I was trying and wanting to be a good girl. Someone
>who isn't afraid of my sharp teeth.
I would think your Uncle Herbie would be ideal for this. Why not ask him? Is
he not strict yet fair? I guess I'm not sure because he doesn't post HIS
theories on child rearing <gggg>
Pam
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OMG!! Poor Zoey
Deb
> but I like the idea of someone holding my
>bummy open for daddy, too. It would have to be someone strict yet fair just
>like Daddy. Someone who wouldn't laugh at me or make fun of me. Someone
>who understood that I was trying and wanting to be a good girl. Someone
>who isn't afraid of my sharp teeth.
Well <blushing modestly, whilst subtly indicating self> you might want
to consider someone whom you will hopefully be seeing soon, and who
has performed this intimate duty for someone whom you hold in high
esteem and who, I am sure, will provide testimonials.
love
Domino <grinning>
> I would think your Uncle Herbie would be ideal for this. Why not ask him? Is
> he not strict yet fair? I guess I'm not sure because he doesn't post HIS
> theories on child rearing <gggg>
>
Uncle Herbie would laugh!!! I can just picture him moving my butt cheeks in
and out, and he would tease Julie, and probably get Daddy to start talking
about his car during the discipline!
Besides, Uncle Herbie is afraid of my teeth. ::giggling::
No no no..this just won't doo doo. I need someone to help me be good, not
get me in MORE trouble!
hugs,
zed
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>> but I like the idea of someone holding my
>> bummy open for daddy, too. It would have to be someone strict yet fair just
>> like Daddy. Someone who wouldn't laugh at me or make fun of me. Someone
>> who understood that I was trying and wanting to be a good girl. Someone
>> who isn't afraid of my sharp teeth.
>
> Well <blushing modestly, whilst subtly indicating self> you might want
> to consider someone whom you will hopefully be seeing soon, and who
> has performed this intimate duty for someone whom you hold in high
> esteem and who, I am sure, will provide testimonials.
>
> love
> Domino <grinning>
OOOO! You have experience with holding open a naughty girls bottom? I want
to hear the testimonial! I think... maybe.. I just might, be a brave girl
for you Domino, and I promise not to bite. I really really want to be a
good girl for my Daddy and do this. Julie is my anus, but she is sometimes
very willful and disobedient, and she gets me in SO much trouble.
I can't wait to meet you, but ..Julie is now a bit hesitant. ooo! :)
hugs,
zoey
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> OMG!! Poor Zoey
>
> Deb
OMG poor Deb, sure you don't want to cash in that plane ticket?
The reign of terror is still ongoing! Daddy is replenishing his body with
rest and lots of fluids, and will be raring to go... very soon.
::insert scary music:::
hugs,
zoey
LOL! You are soooo helpful Domino.
Hugs
Deb <lmao>
LOL! Yeah I'm clenching just thinking about it!!.. Daddy is replenishing
his body with rest, I'm going to get my first spanking and BARRISTER is
about to give advice on Julie... JUST Julie right? :)
He don't give advice on first spankings does he? <g>
hugs
Deb
Or maybe some training with a piece of double sided PCB, each side connected
to a tens machine, if connection occurs, a little zap would be felt, may
help muscle tone as well?
:-)
Could clenching be an outward redirection of hiccups?
Brian
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<Can anyone here offer any advice on where I can
find such a device? I'll need this by Memorial Day weekend.>
Rather then a device, how about a position? I've found that if the girl is on
her back with her legs doubled up to her chest it makes it realll difficult to
clench up.
>OOOO! You have experience with holding open a naughty girls bottom?
Yes - both in observing it done to a mutual friend and actually doing
the honours for a couple other friends along the way :-)
> I want
>to hear the testimonial!
Ok - one of hte people is reading this thread and will hhopefully mail
you with all the DETAILS
> I think... maybe.. I just might, be a brave girl
>for you Domino,
Thank you, but really, if I'm holding Julie open, you won't have the
option.
> and I promise not to bite.
Well - If I'm going to be somewhere near Julie, you would have to be
quite a contortionist to bite me. But, if you manage to do so, let me
remind you once again of the close proximity I will be in to Julie and
to your lovely Derry Air, and being possessed of (almost) a full set
of teeth, myself, I might be tempted to retaliate :-)))
> I really really want to be a
>good girl for my Daddy and do this. Julie is my anus, but she is sometimes
>very willful and disobedient, and she gets me in SO much trouble.
<smile>
>I can't wait to meet you, but ..Julie is now a bit hesitant. ooo! :)
See you soon :-)))
love
Domino
>LOL! You are soooo helpful Domino.
I always try to be - we were taught in the Girl Guides to do a good
deed every day and be helpful :-)
love
Domino
I sure hope so. Like someone else always says, I love Details!!! :)
>> I think... maybe.. I just might, be a brave girl
>> for you Domino,
>
> Thank you, but really, if I'm holding Julie open, you won't have the
> option.
>
Oh, this is gonna HURT!
>> and I promise not to bite.
>
> Well - If I'm going to be somewhere near Julie, you would have to be
> quite a contortionist to bite me. But, if you manage to do so, let me
> remind you once again of the close proximity I will be in to Julie and
> to your lovely Derry Air, and being possessed of (almost) a full set
> of teeth, myself, I might be tempted to retaliate :-)))
I will keep that in mind. So you have nice choppers, huh? Daddy and I (and
the rest of da family) are looking forward to seeing you smile with them.
:)
>
>> I can't wait to meet you, but ..Julie is now a bit hesitant. ooo! :)
>
> See you soon :-)))
Yes! Won't be long now.
::doing excited happy dance::
hugs,
z
The type of white adhesive tape sold in athletic supply stores works
well, also. A stick can be slipped under the subjects hips, and the
tape can pull outwards on each cheek. If lying on a bed or bench, this
position affords the anus the least amount of stretching and the most
resiliency, allowing more punishment without damage. You would be
amazed at how quickly the anus can heal after being whipped bloody.
Neosporin works wonders there.
>
> Hi Rosy.
>
> I guess you saw what my very MEAN Daddy posted this morning. I was hoping
> he would only post about all the brave things I did this weekend, but OHHHH
> NOOOOO Mr Meanie Sir had to go and tell everyone about the one really BAD
> thing I did, where I refused to LISTEN.
Poor sweetie. It is sort of embarrassing to have your Daddy tell the whole
town all about your little problem, but you know he has your best interests
deep down at heart, so he is just trying to find some help for your
difficulty.
>I really felt terrible that I was
> such a naughty girl, and couldn't stay in position. :(
I know, and your Daddy knows too, that's why he is asking for help... so he
can help you find a way to be a totally good girl and feel really good
about yourself.
> I don't want to have a sore hiney from duct tape, and get a rash. Yuck. So
> the medical tape might be better,
Maybe tomorrow Liz can 'speriment on me with some adhesive tape (she is
very good at first aid!;-) to see if we can find a way to do it. We would
both love to help you with this problem.:-)
> but I like the idea of someone holding my
> bummy open for daddy, too. It would have to be someone strict yet fair just
> like Daddy. Someone who wouldn't laugh at me or make fun of me.
Mmmm hmmmm. I know just how you feel, sweetheart. I've enjoyed being held
open very much on the rare occasions when I've had the opportunity, but I
would hate it if someone was doing it and made fun of me or laughed the
wrong way. One of the best times (and also just about the first, I think,
except for holding myself open), Liz was the spanker and Debbie Ann was
mostly holding me open and Domino was mostly sort of holding my hand and
giving me comfort and encouragement. They were all really sweet in helping
me explore that fantasy and I could get pretty far into it because no one
broke the mood by making fun or laughing the wrong way or anything. They
just encouraged me. It was incredibly sweet as well as incredibly hot!
I wish I lived closer so I could volunteer to hold you open and encourage
you and Julie. I know both of you want to be good. I would be very firm
but very loving. You would take those stinging strokes right smack on your
sweet little crinkly bummy hole every single time, like the good girl I
know you want to be, and you would feel very proud of yourself when it was
over.(>*<)
>Someone
> who understood that I was trying and wanting to be a good girl. Someone
> who isn't afraid of my sharp teeth.
I don't think I would be. I would try to make you feel so loved that
hopefully I wouldn't have to worry too much, and I have every confidence in
your wanting to be a good girl and trying hard.
>I wonder if we have time to clone
> Daddy a twin before Memorial Day?
Probably not, dear. Maybe Domino can help you out. She is certainly
capable of being very firm and very loving at the same time.:-)
I think you should practice, too. Like maybe for five or ten minutes a day
you can get into a position that allows Julie to be all exposed and
vulnerable (with bottom bare, of course) and then practice by imagining the
loopy johnny falling while you stay nice and relaxed and open. Inagine it
over and over until the time is up. I'll bet if you practice like this
every day it will help.:-)
Of course I am only making suggestions because I care about you and want
you to succeed in your goals and feel very good about yourself.:-) I am
curious about something. Does your Daddy also spank Julie with other
implements or his hand, or does he just spank her with the Loopy Johnny?
Love,
Rosy... getting a little squirmy around the... ummmmm... edges....;-)
Zoey said:
>> Hi Rosy.
>>
>> I guess you saw what my very MEAN Daddy posted this morning. I was hoping
>> he would only post about all the brave things I did this weekend, but OHHHH
>> NOOOOO Mr Meanie Sir had to go and tell everyone about the one really BAD
>> thing I did, where I refused to LISTEN.
>
> Poor sweetie. It is sort of embarrassing to have your Daddy tell the whole
> town all about your little problem, but you know he has your best interests
> deep down at heart, so he is just trying to find some help for your
> difficulty.
Yes, after thinking about it, I realize that I was wrong. My Daddy is only
trying to do what is best for me. If he feels I need to take loopy licks,
then I need to take loopy licks. Daddy is only trying to make me the very
BEST girl I can be.
>
>> I really felt terrible that I was
>> such a naughty girl, and couldn't stay in position. :(
>
> I know, and your Daddy knows too, that's why he is asking for help... so he
> can help you find a way to be a totally good girl and feel really good
> about yourself.
>
Like Kavasha! Sorry Rosy - that's a funny little private hockey joke
between me and Daddy. :)
>> I don't want to have a sore hiney from duct tape, and get a rash. Yuck. So
>> the medical tape might be better,
>
> Maybe tomorrow Liz can 'speriment on me with some adhesive tape (she is
> very good at first aid!;-) to see if we can find a way to do it. We would
> both love to help you with this problem.:-)
>
Yes! And you can tell me if it works. I guess this medical tape is just
that white tape I would find in the first aid section of the drug store,
right?
>> but I like the idea of someone holding my
>> bummy open for daddy, too. It would have to be someone strict yet fair just
>> like Daddy. Someone who wouldn't laugh at me or make fun of me.
>
> Mmmm hmmmm. I know just how you feel, sweetheart. I've enjoyed being held
> open very much on the rare occasions when I've had the opportunity, but I
> would hate it if someone was doing it and made fun of me or laughed the
> wrong way. One of the best times (and also just about the first, I think,
> except for holding myself open), Liz was the spanker and Debbie Ann was
> mostly holding me open and Domino was mostly sort of holding my hand and
> giving me comfort and encouragement. They were all really sweet in helping
> me explore that fantasy and I could get pretty far into it because no one
> broke the mood by making fun or laughing the wrong way or anything. They
> just encouraged me. It was incredibly sweet as well as incredibly hot!
>
Laughing the wrong way... yes, exactly. It's funny how I don't mind loving
chuckles, where I can tell that everyone who is laughing loves me and is
only laughing because I am naughty, cute, or trying so hard - but sometimes
people laugh in a different way, and that makes me angry and want to bite.
It's very hard to explain, but I think you do understand. :)
> I wish I lived closer so I could volunteer to hold you open and encourage
> you and Julie. I know both of you want to be good. I would be very firm
> but very loving. You would take those stinging strokes right smack on your
> sweet little crinkly bummy hole every single time, like the good girl I
> know you want to be, and you would feel very proud of yourself when it was
> over.(>*<)
>
little crinkly bummy hole :::grin:: Julie likes that! OOOOO!
>> Someone
>> who understood that I was trying and wanting to be a good girl. Someone
>> who isn't afraid of my sharp teeth.
>
> I don't think I would be. I would try to make you feel so loved that
> hopefully I wouldn't have to worry too much, and I have every confidence in
> your wanting to be a good girl and trying hard.
>
Yes, when Daddy was trying to get me to listen, I would stop and hug him and
cry. I was trying so hard! He would chuckle a little, but then be firm and
tell me to try again, and finally he said that I would need some help, since
I was being a very naughty girl.
>> I wonder if we have time to clone
>> Daddy a twin before Memorial Day?
>
> Probably not, dear. Maybe Domino can help you out. She is certainly
> capable of being very firm and very loving at the same time.:-)
>
Yes, she is exactly that! Domino is a very special person. I hope it all
works out, falls into place, and I get to meet her. :)
> I think you should practice, too. Like maybe for five or ten minutes a day
> you can get into a position that allows Julie to be all exposed and
> vulnerable (with bottom bare, of course) and then practice by imagining the
> loopy johnny falling while you stay nice and relaxed and open. Inagine it
> over and over until the time is up. I'll bet if you practice like this
> every day it will help.:-)
>
Yes, I will. I am going to practice. I promise.
> Of course I am only making suggestions because I care about you and want
> you to succeed in your goals and feel very good about yourself.:-) I am
> curious about something. Does your Daddy also spank Julie with other
> implements or his hand, or does he just spank her with the Loopy Johnny?
>
Sometimes Daddy spanks me on Julie with his hand.
One thing Daddy did, that was especially perverted ::grin:: was this
weekend, he had a special tool that was an electric flosser. He put a new
tip on it, and flossed my teeth for me. It was lots of fun, cus we had just
eaten popcorn before bed.
Then, Daddy told me that now it was Julie's turn. I protested, because - I
thought it might hurt REALLY BAD!!! I bent over, and tried to hold still,
but Julie took over again. Then I said...
"Daddy, just try it on my hiney skin first to practice"
Once Daddy did that, Julie realized it wouldn't probably be so bad, and then
she just relaxed, and there she was..all ready to be flossed.
She actually giggled! (Daddy said so anyway)
So, maybe - if Daddy spanks Julie with some other things, warming her up
sort of, and giving Julie some success before graduating to the loopy, it
might make her less afraid. Right Rosy? :)
> Love,
>
> Rosy... getting a little squirmy around the... ummmmm... edges....;-)
Um.. me too. :)
big hugs,
zoey
pe
> As far as positions go, I would caution against the diaper position
> for anal whipping. The stretching in that position seems to allow
> greater damage to be done sooner, such as hemorrhoids. of course, if
> you are just doing light punishment, it is of no matter. We have found
> the anus can stand far more punishment if the subject kneels with
> chest down on the floor or bed. Adam's mini birch applied from behind
> or a martinet applied from above both work well in this position. If
> the subject is unwilling to maintain proper back arch to spread the
> cheeks, then bondage is required. A spreader bar, with wrists attached
> to ankles, and a waist strap pulled tight down to the bar will do the
> job.
>
I have to admit, that the diaper position is no where near my fantasy at all
- so I am sort of glad to hear this. I am a bottom's up kind of girl. :)
> The type of white adhesive tape sold in athletic supply stores works
> well, also. A stick can be slipped under the subjects hips, and the
> tape can pull outwards on each cheek. If lying on a bed or bench, this
> position affords the anus the least amount of stretching and the most
> resiliency, allowing more punishment without damage. You would be
> amazed at how quickly the anus can heal after being whipped bloody.
> Neosporin works wonders there.
Well, normally once Daddy sees blood, he stops, gets out the sewing kit, we
paint the ceiling and walls and move on from there. hehe
Just kidding.. Daddy probably just wants to get about six "good ones" to my
bummy hole, and he will be satisfied. This idea with the stick and tape
does sound good. I don't think I would require a full bondage type of thing
to maintain position, it's just my hiney that doesn't cooperate - generally
the rest of my body is pretty well behaved.
cept for my potty mouth sometimes. :)
Thanks,
z
pe
>
> Not that I'm interested, I'm just being polite here, but what kind of
> floss do you use to floss Julie's tooth? Does Julie's tooth bite? Do
> you brush it as well?
Refer to my post to Rosy that I just posted -for DETAILS of the flossing.
:)
hugs,
z
pe
> You might try putting some cinnamon oil on Julie
> first to cause her much distress prior to the whipping. Just a
> thought. A perverted one, but a thought nonetheless.
I tried looking for cinnamon oil one time, and couldn't find it. How about
Vicks Vapor Rub? I put that on my bummy hole one time and had a very
strange desire to hump the furniture. ooo!
hugs,
zed
pe
> Domino:
>
> > Well - If I'm going to be somewhere near Julie, you would have to be
> > quite a contortionist to bite me. But, if you manage to do so, let me
> > remind you once again of the close proximity I will be in to Julie and
> > to your lovely Derry Air, and being possessed of (almost) a full set
> > of teeth, myself, I might be tempted to retaliate :-)))
>
> I will keep that in mind. So you have nice choppers, huh? Daddy and I (and
> the rest of da family) are looking forward to seeing you smile with them.
> :)
You will love seeing that! Domino has one of the most gorgeously beautiful
smiles in the known universe! It is like perfect a triple rainbow or maybe
like the sun coming up over a beautiful mountain ridge after three weeks of
solid rain!;-)
Hugs,
Rosy... looking forward to June, though heaven only knows I have too much
to do before then!
<snip>
>Yes, Vicks will work, as will Tiger Balm, Oil of Wintergreen or
>peppermint oil. DO NOT use HEET on Julie or she will surely kill you.
>
>Just ask Bonnie.
Surely the aforementioned is merely a figure of speech. I mean, you 'are' still
alive, Larry. Right?
""DETAILS""
Please?
Your pal,
Wooz
And sometimes Larry, a B*rrister is just a B*rrister. :)
> On 4/23/03 8:14 AM, Rosy B. Goode wrote:
>
>
> > Poor sweetie. It is sort of embarrassing to have your Daddy tell the whole
> > town all about your little problem, but you know he has your best interests
> > deep down at heart, so he is just trying to find some help for your
> > difficulty.
>
> Yes, after thinking about it, I realize that I was wrong. My Daddy is only
> trying to do what is best for me. If he feels I need to take loopy licks,
> then I need to take loopy licks. Daddy is only trying to make me the very
> BEST girl I can be.
That's right, and your loving friends will help all they can.:-)
> > Maybe tomorrow Liz can 'speriment on me with some adhesive tape (she is
> > very good at first aid!;-) to see if we can find a way to do it. We would
> > both love to help you with this problem.:-)
> >
>
> Yes! And you can tell me if it works. I guess this medical tape is just
> that white tape I would find in the first aid section of the drug store,
> right?
Yep that is the stuff and boy does it work! (Liz also tried some 'cloth'
medical tape, but it didn't work as well.) It felt really funny lying
there on the bed with my bottom-hole so exposed! My goodness, even if it
tried to clench of it's own accord it didn't get very far, and it felt
really funny pulling against the tapes! I still had to try not to clench
or squeeze though, because the tape made it pretty obvious if I did and
then I would get spanked and whipped harder! We don't have a loopy johnny
to use, but I love you so much that I let Lizzie use some of our ouchiest
things on me so I could see if the tape might help you with LJ. Even when
she whipped me right on my poor bottomhole with the little single-tail that
has the tip woven out of LJ stuff, I could not close my bottom! Owie! She
really was pretty delicate, but that sucker HURTS! She used our wickedest
little leather flail, too (stiff-ish tails like bootlace only maybe a
little heavier) and she thoroughly paddled my bummy-hole and my whole
groove with our littlest bamboo spoon! She used other things, too! My
goodness it all stung and burned, but I could not close my bottom at all!
Then she had to go wash the Sam Spade plug and before she left the room she
put mineral ice *all* over my groove and even a little *right* on my poor
stinging bummy-hole! I could sure feel that after all that whipping and
paddling! I was a really good girl though as she gave me a thorough
probing with that plug (which of course picked up just a little bit of the
mineral ice as it nosed in. I think she only had to take it out and whip
me for squeezing once. I was getting very excited though, so at the end of
our 'experiment' she used the little bullet vibrator to... ummm... calm me
down.;-)
So that is how much I love you. Liz even took some pictures with her
digital camera that I can send you if you want to see how she put the tape
on. She didn't have to reach all the way around to the front for it to
work, either. She just sort of anchored it good near the middle and
stretched it out tight around the curve. She was surprised at how well it
worked!
> > Mmmm hmmmm. I know just how you feel, sweetheart. I've enjoyed being held
> > open very much on the rare occasions when I've had the opportunity, but I
> > would hate it if someone was doing it and made fun of me or laughed the
> > wrong way. <snip>
>
>
> Laughing the wrong way... yes, exactly. It's funny how I don't mind loving
> chuckles, where I can tell that everyone who is laughing loves me and is
> only laughing because I am naughty, cute, or trying so hard - but sometimes
> people laugh in a different way, and that makes me angry and want to bite.
> It's very hard to explain, but I think you do understand. :)
Yes, I think I do. Fond laughter or shared giggles are one thing and the
wrong kind of laugh is entirely another.
> > I wish I lived closer so I could volunteer to hold you open and encourage
> > you and Julie. I know both of you want to be good. I would be very firm
> > but very loving. You would take those stinging strokes right smack on your
> > sweet little crinkly bummy hole every single time, like the good girl I
> > know you want to be, and you would feel very proud of yourself when it was
> > over.(>*<)
> >
>
> little crinkly bummy hole :::grin:: Julie likes that! OOOOO!
Well I like Julie.<g> I may have to write a letter to the editor of
Perverted Parenting Magazine with some ideas on the subject of holding
naughty girls (or boys) open for a proper groove and bummy-hole spanking.
> >I would try to make you feel so loved that
> > hopefully I wouldn't have to worry too much, and I have every confidence in
> > your wanting to be a good girl and trying hard.
> >
>
> Yes, when Daddy was trying to get me to listen, I would stop and hug him and
> cry. I was trying so hard! He would chuckle a little, but then be firm and
> tell me to try again, and finally he said that I would need some help, since
> I was being a very naughty girl.
He is such a good Daddy always looking for a way to help his little z. You
are a lucky little lady.
> > Maybe Domino can help you out. She is certainly
> > capable of being very firm and very loving at the same time.:-)
> >
>
> Yes, she is exactly that! Domino is a very special person. I hope it all
> works out, falls into place, and I get to meet her. :)
I hope so too. She is very special, and she loves to help her friends when
she can. And she doesn't laugh the wrong way or make fun, though she might
say how cute Julie is.:-) She is loving but she is firm, too, when she
needs to be. If she helps Julie stay open, Julie *will* take her licks
straight-on.
> > I think you should practice, too. Like maybe for five or ten minutes a day
> > you can get into a position that allows Julie to be all exposed and
> > vulnerable (with bottom bare, of course) and then practice by imagining the
> > loopy johnny falling while you stay nice and relaxed and open. Inagine it
> > over and over until the time is up. I'll bet if you practice like this
> > every day it will help.:-)
> >
>
> Yes, I will. I am going to practice. I promise.
Good girl. I am sure it will help you succeed.
> >I am
> > curious about something. Does your Daddy also spank Julie with other
> > implements or his hand, or does he just spank her with the Loopy Johnny?
> >
>
> Sometimes Daddy spanks me on Julie with his hand.
That is good. When someone cares enough to spank you with their hand you
know you are loved!
> One thing Daddy did, that was especially perverted ::grin:: was this
> weekend, he had a special tool that was an electric flosser. He put a new
> tip on it, and flossed my teeth for me. It was lots of fun, cus we had just
> eaten popcorn before bed.
>
> Then, Daddy told me that now it was Julie's turn. I protested, because - I
> thought it might hurt REALLY BAD!!! I bent over, and tried to hold still,
> but Julie took over again. Then I said...
>
> "Daddy, just try it on my hiney skin first to practice"
>
> Once Daddy did that, Julie realized it wouldn't probably be so bad, and then
> she just relaxed, and there she was..all ready to be flossed.
>
>
> She actually giggled! (Daddy said so anyway)
Well that was just too cute to snip, and I'm glad Julie giggled.
> So, maybe - if Daddy spanks Julie with some other things, warming her up
> sort of, and giving Julie some success before graduating to the loopy, it
> might make her less afraid. Right Rosy? :)
It might well. I am pretty good at keeping my groove and bummy-hole open
even without the tape, and probably one reason is that it gets spanked with
a variety of things and does sort of get a warm-up. Also, I think your
Daddy should spank the sides of your groove, too, if he hasn't been doing
that. If he does that just right Julie might actually start feeling a
little left out and might be more willing to stay open when it is her
turn.:-)
> > Love,
> >
> > Rosy... getting a little squirmy around the... ummmmm... edges....;-)
>
> Um.. me too. :)
Well just don't squeeze or clench!;-)
Hugs,
Rosy... getting squirmy all over again from thinking about last night's
experiments!!;-)
Yanno...sometimes I understand why your sis Joni got you in so much trouble.
You deserve to be spanked whether you are naughty or not. You keep calling me
a brattttt and I'm just so NOT one. You hear???? Good thing no one reads
these threads any more or I'd get a bad reputation here.
Yes, good thing nobody reads this. <EG>
Steven (smiling with teeth)
>OK, this past weekend I was punishing my naughty little girl, and as part of
>the discipline, I attempted to give her tight little doo doo hole a few
>strokes with the Loopy Johnny. Each attempt was blocked when she could not
>control the urge to clench. Because of this, I know that I must now purchase
>a device that will keep her cheeks spread WIDE apart, allowing me full
>access to her bummy hole. Can anyone here offer any advice on where I can
>find such a device? I'll need this by Memorial Day weekend.
>
> Steven
Y'know, sadism goes as far as a short trip on the IND.
Is this the only way you can get women? Do you enjoy your fetish
hobby? Or is there something resting beneath the surface of your
seeming passion for CP? I think there is... and what is that?
Simple... low self esteem and a feeling of inadequacy. It's textbook
'psych 101'... Do you get it?
You enjoy having an affair with a married woman.
Stealing her affection away from her husband and children.
It makes you feel like the cock on the walk, doesn't it.
You are pathetic. You are lower than pond scum.
Get a couch trip.
Rufus
(a man that does not use or abuse anyone)
> Rufus
> (a man that does not use or abuse anyone)
Goodyear said no, but we've still got a shot with Fuji.
Tony
> Well I like Julie.<g> I may have to write a letter to the editor of
> Perverted Parenting Magazine with some ideas on the subject of holding
> naughty girls (or boys) open for a proper groove and bummy-hole spanking.
OOO! I think, if you send them this post, they will make it a feature
article! It's beautifully written and very descriptive, and the perfect
style for the publication. Strict but oddly fair mommys and daddys
everywhere will read that article and start taping open their naughtyone's
bottom holes with medical tape and applying correction to the core of the
problem. :)
Rosy, you are way too kind to have gone through all that experimentation
just for me and Julie. I know it must have hurt very much, and I am looking
forward to seeing the pictures, and studying them VERY closely. I hope I am
as brave as you are the next time Daddy punishes my "crinkly little hole" (I
really do love that description!) with his dastardly loopy johnny.
hugs,
zoey (still squirmy)
pe
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>On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 00:24:23 -0400, "Rufus T. Firefly"
><re...@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>>Y'know, sadism goes as far as a short trip on the IND.
>>Is this the only way you can get women?
>
>Robert, when's the last time you got a woman without having to blow
>her up first? You talk a lot about raping women. Maybe that's the
>only way you can "get" a woman.
>
>>You enjoy having an affair with a married woman.
>>Stealing her affection away from her husband and children.
>
>You're not even a good bullshit artist, ya know. Zed's husband is
>part of these fun and games and her kids don't lack for affection
>because of her play.
>
>>It makes you feel like the cock on the walk, doesn't it.
>>You are pathetic. You are lower than pond scum.
>
>And you're just a jealous little prick who's been spurned by every
>woman you've tried to get to know.
>
>>Rufus
>>(a man that does not use or abuse anyone)
>
>You're not much of a man, by anyone's definition. You're just a
>pathetic little creep who never has or will amount to much in life so
>you like to try to bring down your betters.
>
>Fuck you.
>
>Cordially yours,
>
>Barrister
Right back atcha'. dirt bag.
Rufus
>>>Just ask Bonnie.
>
>>Surely the aforementioned is merely a figure of speech. I mean, you 'are' still
>>alive, Larry. Right?
>
>>""DETAILS""
>
>>Please?
>
>Hmmm, this is confusing and has made me Woozy. I mean, what is
>"alive" and how do we know this isn't all an illusion.
I think I'll go fire up Pink Floyd. "Other Side Of The Moon" sounds good,
doesn't it?
Lao Tsu once
>described having a dream about being a butterfly and after that point
>was never sure if he was a man dreaming of being a butterfly or a
>butterfly having a longer dream about being a man.
Golly, I wonder what he was on? Didn't he own a country over around in and
around Siam when he was awake?
Philosophically speaking, I spank, therefore I am.
>And, dear friend, about what is it that you require DETAILS!!! (you
>forgot the obligator three exclamation points)? Is is about me being
>alive or about the incident with Bonnie and the HEET.
Hey, at least I got DETAILS!!! in caps this time around, darnit. Please consider
giving a little credit for one flirting daily with the onset of senility, for
gosh sakes. Now, where was I?
>Please consider your response carefully.
Response to what? Oh, yeah, that. What 'did' Bonnie do to you after that fire
and brimstone business with HEET? I'm quite sure the payback was well worth your
efforts. <g>
>Barrister, a man having a dream about being a barrister
Wonder why nobody has ever administered a tabasco sauce enema yet?
Hope that remark doesn't get anyone in trouble, BTW. ;c)
Wooz
Rosy B. Goode wrote:
Oh my, Dear!! You do have a way of making me squirm with naughty
delight!!! :) Sigh...wow... <bg>
>
> I may have to write a letter to the editor of
> Perverted Parenting Magazine with some ideas on the subject of holding
> naughty girls (or boys) open for a proper groove and bummy-hole spanking.
Oh oh -- please do!!! Your letter last fall on training naughty
bummy-holes to remain open and relaxed was one of the hottest things
I've ever read and had me pratically in orgasm when I read it (and
several times since).
Actually I had always been sort of squicked out by any sort of anal
play/discipline before that, but I guess your description sort of
brought out whatever latent or hidden anal desires I had. :)
And hopefully one of these days a strict but caring Mommy or Aunty or
even a Daddy or Uncle will take my naughty bummy-hole firmly in hand in
r/l... ;)
> Rosy... getting squirmy all over again from thinking about last night's
> experiments!!;-)
Mmmmm...and getting the rest of us all squirmy too! lol
Thanks again for such a yummy post...
Blessings,
Natty
[p&e]
Mineral ice? Yikes! But have you tried ginger root as a plug? A
nicely-peeled ginger root, lubricated with hot pepper oil like you use
for Szechuwan (spelling?) cooking, and you will have to clench. Trust
me on this. The hole just takes on a mind of its own and spasms nearly
nonstop, between the ginger and the hot pepper. It's... an
unbelieveable confluence of sensations...
<Miss Lee, close to fainting, unbuttons her high-necked
Victorian-style blouse and fans herself with her VHS copy of
"Secretary".)
Ah, I do believe I have to excuse myself now. I need a little, um,
privacy.
<A mechanical buzz can be heard in the background as Miss Lee drops
trou ...>
Miss Lee
Still spanko after all these years
> Rosy, I hadn't responded to your "tail" of woe mostly because it had
> me so hot I couldn't *bear* it. All this talk of tormenting
> bottomholes has me nostalgic for my earlier, wilder life...
LOL! Damn, woman, it's good to have you back! So I'm corrupting you, eh?
> Mineral ice? Yikes! But have you tried ginger root as a plug?
Yes indeed, and had Kessily dripping on the carpet with the account of it
(want to see it? it's F/F too). I think Barrister took notice of that
one, too....;-) Mineral ice isn't so bad, though applied rather liberally
to the sides of one's groove it does have the highly esthetic effect of
causing the bottom to hold itself high in an attempt to try to keep the two
sides of the groove from touching.<g> (Of course a really mean top can
always order one to squeeze on the mineral ice.<eg>) It does have a nice
burn, but it's only menthol and water-based at that. There are worse
things.
>A
> nicely-peeled ginger root, lubricated with hot pepper oil like you use
> for Szechuwan (spelling?) cooking,
Now there you are one up on me! Despite a six year plus fascination with
"From the Treehouse" and warm recollections of one or two of your spiced up
scene accounts, I have yet to get up the nerve to try anything involving
hot peppers or hot pepper oil! So far, menthol and ginger are as far as I
go!=8-O
>and you will have to clench. Trust
> me on this. The hole just takes on a mind of its own and spasms nearly
> nonstop, between the ginger and the hot pepper. It's... an
> unbelieveable confluence of sensations...
Ohmigosh. "unbelieveable confluence of sensations" indeed!
Ooooo!<quiversquirywiggle> Ok, so now you're corrupting me back, you
naughty woman!
> <Miss Lee, close to fainting, unbuttons her high-necked
> Victorian-style blouse and fans herself with her VHS copy of
> "Secretary".)
ROFLMAO! (Miss Lee, btw, is the person who had to explain 'ROFLMAO' to me!)
I can just see it.
> Ah, I do believe I have to excuse myself now. I need a little, um,
> privacy.
Oh, do they make them in 'small' now?<g>
> <A mechanical buzz can be heard in the background as Miss Lee drops
> trou ...>
You always were one of the hottest babes in town! You might want to pick
up some more batteries before I post my letter to the Perverted Parenting
Magazine editor.;-)
Love,
Rosy... wondering suddenly if Liz put the other batteries in the charger.
P.S. I hope I found all the wierd typos. I need new glasses but can't
afford them and can't always see my screen with total clarity, so there are
some bizarre slips sometimes that I don't catch.
Barrister wrote:
<snip>
>
>
> The advantage to being dilatory is that now I don't have to do as I
> promised as others have made all of the suggestions that I had in
> mind, especially the usage of tape to hold the cheeks open and the
> securing of Zoey on her knees, which are held widely-open by a
> spreader bar and her wrists cuffed to the ankles. The other
> suggestion I had was to use a small device which I once read about but
> don't know where to buy. It is like reverse clamps so that when the
> two small arms are put in-between the cheeks, and the knob is turned,
> the arms push outwards to separate the cheeks, leaving Julie all open
> and vulnerable. You might try putting some cinnamon oil on Julie
> first to cause her much distress prior to the whipping. Just a
> thought. A perverted one, but a thought nonetheless.
>
The one thing I haven't seen is the suggestion to bend her over with
her toes turned in. I picked this up from an article in the free
"Library Area" on the Woodshed
<http://www.herwoodshed.com/library/positions.html>
If you get a chance, take a look at this little article. I've
returned to it many times. The toes-in thing works *really* well and
increases her sense of submission due to the increased "exposure."
--
Jim
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<mailto:wvto...@aol.com> ABCD Webmasters
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Barrister wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:35:28 -0400, Zprymantis <zp...@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>You might try putting some cinnamon oil on Julie
>>>first to cause her much distress prior to the whipping. Just a
>>>thought. A perverted one, but a thought nonetheless.
>>
>
>>I tried looking for cinnamon oil one time, and couldn't find it. How about
>>Vicks Vapor Rub? I put that on my bummy hole one time and had a very
>>strange desire to hump the furniture. ooo!
>
>
> Yes, Vicks will work, as will Tiger Balm, Oil of Wintergreen or
> peppermint oil. DO NOT use HEET on Julie or she will surely kill you.
>
> Just ask Bonnie.
>
Be careful with the oil of cinnamon. When I was a little boy my mom
used it for making applebutter. Of course, I loved the cinnamon taste
and one night I got into the medicine cabinet and put the bottle up to
my lips. Just that one touch caused a flaming red, horribly burning
patch of red discolouration all over my face. It was there for hours.
>LOL! Damn, woman, it's good to have you back! So I'm corrupting you, eh?
More like tempting me. <g>
> It does have a nice
>burn, but it's only menthol and water-based at that. There are worse
>things.
>
Ahem. For sure. <getting all quivery, remembering>
>Now there you are one up on me! Despite a six year plus fascination with
>"From the Treehouse" and warm recollections of one or two of your spiced up
>scene accounts, I have yet to get up the nerve to try anything involving
>hot peppers or hot pepper oil! So far, menthol and ginger are as far as I
>go!=8-O
Oh, wow, does this mean that it was Mija who posted the account many
years back of children being "peppered" by their mother? Mija, was
that you? OMG, that was just too exciting and actually resulted in
some experimentation on my part...
I'd love to see that again.
>Ohmigosh. "unbelieveable confluence of sensations" indeed!
>Ooooo!<quiversquirywiggle> Ok, so now you're corrupting me back, you
>naughty woman!
I just spent 9 hours at a writing workshop, and thought I was
exhausted, but suddenly I'm feeling all quivery, too. :-)
>ROFLMAO! (Miss Lee, btw, is the person who had to explain 'ROFLMAO' to me!)
>I can just see it.
I'd forgotten that. :-)
>You always were one of the hottest babes in town! You might want to pick
>up some more batteries before I post my letter to the Perverted Parenting
>Magazine editor.;-)
Aw, thanks, sweetie. <blush> I always felt like the old blues song: "I
look like a farmer but, I'm a lover! Can't tell a book by lookin' at
the cover..." Like, I don't look like a natural hottie with this
innocent, farmer's wife mug, but just give me a bloody chance and I'll
blow your wheels off, baby.
Looking forward to that "perverted" letter!
>
>Love,
>
>Rosy... wondering suddenly if Liz put the other batteries in the charger.
>
>P.S. I hope I found all the wierd typos. I need new glasses but can't
>afford them and can't always see my screen with total clarity, so there are
>some bizarre slips sometimes that I don't catch.
No sweat, sweets. My brain doesn't always work in orderly fashion any
more, let along my fingers. LOL. (Fortunately, word processors make
editing my goofs easy.)
Sorry about the bandwidth, folks.
>>>Hmmm, this is confusing and has made me Woozy. I mean, what is
>>>"alive" and how do we know this isn't all an illusion.
>
>>I think I'll go fire up Pink Floyd. "Other Side Of The Moon" sounds good,
>>doesn't it?
>
>Well, yes, it does, but I suppose I'm partial also to Mike Oldfields'
>"Tubular Bells", anything by the Moody Blues or, maybe something by
>Kraftwerks.
Actually, I like the "Dark side of the Moon" better. HeeHee. Oh yes, love the
Moody Blues and was trying to think whether "Tubular Bells" ever produced a
second album. I waited and waited. Guess I will have to go home and rifle
through all my old albums to see what else is there. Hell, I'm wondering if my
old Bang and Olufsen will still spin. Tell ya what, those big ole Klipsch
speakers can still honk smoothly and sweetly.
>>Lao Tsu once
>>>described having a dream about being a butterfly and after that point
>>>was never sure if he was a man dreaming of being a butterfly or a
>>>butterfly having a longer dream about being a man.
>
>>Golly, I wonder what he was on? Didn't he own a country over around in and
>>around Siam when he was awake?
>
>Old Lao, who may not have ever existed, was one of the classical
>Taoist writers who also like to pass the jug of wine around the bamboo
>grove a fair amount. I'm not sure, but opium may have played a small
>part as well.
Thus Laos? Thus the thai stick? Mmmmmm, opiated hash. Been a while.
>>Philosophically speaking, I spank, therefore I am.
>
>This is a philosophy to which I could easily adhere.
I thought maybe it might fit you to a tee. :c)
>>>And, dear friend, about what is it that you require DETAILS!!! (you
>>>forgot the obligator three exclamation points)? Is is about me being
>>>alive or about the incident with Bonnie and the HEET.
>
>>Hey, at least I got DETAILS!!! in caps this time around, darnit. Please consider
>>giving a little credit for one flirting daily with the onset of senility, for
>>gosh sakes. Now, where was I?
>
>Florida, I think. And, yes, I applaud your increasing cognizance of
>the finer points of the plaintive cri de coeur for DETAILS!!!
Plaintive? An understatement perhaps? At any rate, I'm pleased you are pleased,
my friend.
>>>Please consider your response carefully.
>
>>Response to what? Oh, yeah, that. What 'did' Bonnie do to you after that fire
>>and brimstone business with HEET? I'm quite sure the payback was well worth your
>>efforts. <g>
>
>Actually, it was Bonnie herself who set the fire to her genitals with
>the HEET. I recall it well. It was before we were married and she
>still lived in California. I was topping her over the telephone, as I
>was wont to do, and, after I had her spank herself, I ordered her to
>paint her bottom with the liquid called HEET (Heet for the seat as she
>called it.) Unfortunately, being a liquid, it tended to flow. And
>flow it did, right off of her bottom, between her legs and onto her
>pussy. The screams could have been heard across the intevening 3,000
>miles without the benefit of the telephone. Since then, we still use
>HEET, but are much more careful about how we apply it. It is, after
>all , a wonderful addition to any well-spanked bottom.
Poor Bonnie. Doggone it, I hate that that happened. But...but, did she ever
level the playing field? Did you/she see fit to pay for the unforeseen?
>>>Barrister, a man having a dream about being a barrister
>
>>Wonder why nobody has ever administered a tabasco sauce enema yet?
>
>What makes you think they haven't?
Oh, well....mainly because I haven't read about it yet. I would imagine it's
been tried somewhere sometime though.
>>Hope that remark doesn't get anyone in trouble, BTW. ;c)
>
>Who might get in trouble? You?
No, not me. I'm more into colonoscopy and self catherization these days.
However, since you mention it, I did run into something kinda troublesome the
other day. You see, all of the ole neighborladies just love me but there is this
one old lady always walking by my place and when she comes by she sorta looks in
all my windows as though she is trying to see what I am up to. She sorta dresses
differently than most ladies. Kinda slutty for her age.
Well, being the incorrigable perv I am, and since she is always on schedule, I
aimed my Lazy Boy right at the window, sat down, stretched out and started
fantasizing. So, here she comes Lazily loping by, dressed more like a teen than
an old lady, and she looks right into the open window with a dead stare. Here I
am, naked as a jaybird, and slowly stroking a rock hard viagra cheater right
before her very eyes. Balls and all.
Well now lemmee tell you, that was the first time I had ever seen anyones lower
body appear to keep walking while their head and eyes stayed in position...other
than in the cartoons, of course. Anyway, I saw her adams apple gulp hard and
then she simply stood there for a second or so, wide-eyed. She then composed
herself and managed to walk briskly away, nose somewhat reluctantly in the air.
Unfortunately, in the meantime, humor overrode my lust. Yeah, viagra or no.
Damnitt. About an hour later I got an anonymous phone call.
My condolences to Bonnie for the accident. Glad to hear she seems to have
recovered well. Gotta go to Indiana now. See ya.
Your pal,
Wooz
>If you get a chance, take a look at this little article. I've
>returned to it many times. The toes-in thing works *really* well and
>increases her sense of submission due to the increased "exposure."
>
Jim, thanks for the link. It is funny but for some reason it is kind of
titilating for all those positions to be discussed so..I don't
know...clinically. Kind of intimidating. :) Thanks.
Pam wrote:
> jim:
>
>
>
>
>>If you get a chance, take a look at this little article. I've
>>returned to it many times. The toes-in thing works *really* well and
>>increases her sense of submission due to the increased "exposure."
>>
>
>
> Jim, thanks for the link. It is funny but for some reason it is kind of
> titilating for all those positions to be discussed so..I don't
> know...clinically. Kind of intimidating. :) Thanks.
>
You're quite welcome. I've been trying to find the time for about a
year now to expand the Library Area and make it a free resource for
spanking-related non-fiction.
I'd actually like some ideas for the kinds of things to have there. I
envision one section on the philosophy of DD, a section on what I call
"Spanking-for-Fun," one on swhtching, perhaps a links page to spanking
toplists, quality vendors, etc. Maybe a page for medical advice, too.
Other ideas?
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Jim
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