In article <9d84co...@mid.individual.net>,
Serene Vannoy <ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:
> On 09/12/2011 08:27 AM, David Dalton wrote:
> > In article<9d6f6k...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Serene Vannoy<ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/09/2011 03:11 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> >>
> >>> As that last sentence might indicate, I have moved into
> >>> a phase where I again think I can intuit the best
> >>> sexual position(s) for a woman compatible with me.
> >>> I arrived at that by finding that when I masturbate
> >>> in order for me to respond fully I have to now
> >>> think of best positions for us to be in.
> >>
> >> Do you see how your methods of "divination" completely ignore the actual
> >> woman and what might be preferable for HER?
> >>
> >> Serene
> >
> > No, the divination is aimed entirely at finding the best
> > positions and practices to please her.
> >
>
> How well YOU orgasm while THINKING of her does NOTHING to ascertain what
> SHE will like. Is that more clear?
The divination is not based on how well I orgasm.
In fact the divination does not require me to
masturbate or even get an erection.
It is based on my roaming through in my mind various
sexual positions and practices while thinking of a
woman and at the supposed best positions and practices
I get a perineum click and kundalini buzz. If this
works it is, like any form of divination, magical.
It is a magical method of determining what she will
like. However I doubt it is working. I guess I
could test it on a woman compatible with me (again
I speculate that is bisexual women who have had
some orgasms) who knows at least some of what she likes.
But also above I know I said "in order for me to respond fully
I have to now think of best positions for us to be
in". By that I meant I now don't get a full erection
until I think of the best positions and practices.
But this response by me is not the aim of the
divination; the aim of the divination is to find the
best sexual positions and practices for her.
And again I don't have to even get an erection to
do the divination but it seems now to get an erection
I have to do the divination.
But I doubt such divination is working and in practice
as Remus said it is good to try a few positions and
settle on the one(s) that work for her. And in my
case I am 47 years old so most women I would have
sex with would already know the best positions for
them.
But divination results I got for a certain superstar
actress are:
1. she would like to have sex in a bath or hot tub
2. she would like a lover who is talkative during sex
3. she would like to tie up her man
That wasn't at all what I was trying to get across, but it's also an
excellent point.
> In addition, magic in
> particular has been consistently shown to be an absolutely unreliable
> method for doing anything. A graph explaining this further can be
> found at:
>
> https://www.xkcd.com/373/
Exactly. And extra geek points for using xkcd in an argument.
>
> An amazingly reliable method, on the other hand, is to *ask your
> partner* and *pay attention to your partner in bed*. It breaks down
> only when you have a lousy relationship where one side lies to the
> other, though shy partners may require a lot more patience.
>
> (Am I the only one that thinks that part of the fun is in the
> experimenting, anyway?)
Again, this exactly.
>
>
>> But divination results I got for a certain superstar
>> actress are:
>>
>> 1. she would like to have sex in a bath or hot tub
>> 2. she would like a lover who is talkative during sex
>> 3. she would like to tie up her man
>
> While there's nothing inherently wrong with an active fantasy
> imagination, as long as you keep confusing what it produces with
> reality you are going to encounter many problems in life, one of the
> least of which is in getting people to take you seriously in
> conversation.
Right. And in getting people to believe you actually care about them as
people, rather than as sex toys for your own amusement and pleasure.
Serene
> I agree that probably my divination method is not working
> and is not a substitute for experimentation and listening
> to my partner.
Then it's not a divination method; it's fantasizing. Which is fine; just
don't confuse the two.
> But you say that in my divination my
> attention is inwards when really my attention is mostly
> outwards and on the woman in question.
NO. It's on your *imagined conception* of the woman in question. It's
entirely in your head. You haven't slept with the woman or asked her
what she'd like in bed, so you know NOTHING about her and aren't
focusing on her, but on YOUR IDEAS of her.
> But barring experimental evidence backing my divination
> method I don't expect any of you to take my divination
> claims seriously,
Oh, good. Then stop making them.
Serene
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I don't understand why sex can't be an integral part of caring about someone as
a human being. After all, sex is part of humanity. Why do so many women expect
interest to be proven first nonsexually and then sexually under their strict
control?
Orlando