I knew there was a reason I stopped coming here.
Sarah C
Groups rather than an actual newsreader, is there?
This is really quite ridiculous. Orlando is, once again, projecting
feelings, motivations and behaviours onto me which aren't actually
anything to do with me.
I'd like to ask anyone who, on reading his multiple replies to my
threads feels I'm actually doing, saying and feeling the way he's
saying I am to please re-read my posts before accepting his version of
reality.
I came her for discussion and information, not to be harangued.
Cheers,
Sarah_C
Delila
"Sarah C" <secret....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:98cc5281-9ceb-4230...@31g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
> I came her for discussion and information, not to be harangued.
Sarah, no one's haranguing you. You posted here about your situation, and
people are giving you their opinions, that's all. Isn't the reason you
posted because you wanted others' views on this? You're free to accept or
reject those opinions.
D.
Orlando Enrique Fiol
>This is really quite ridiculous. Orlando is, once again, projecting
>feelings, motivations and behaviours onto me which aren't actually
>anything to do with me.
All based on your posts. Why would I make this stuff up?
>I'd like to ask anyone who, on reading his multiple replies to my
>threads feels I'm actually doing, saying and feeling the way he's
>saying I am to please re-read my posts before accepting his version of
>reality.
I'm reading the same posts everyone else will.
>I came here for discussion and information, not to be harangued.
No, you came here for unconditional support no matter what ridiculous shit you
try to do. You want support in controlling Wolf's behaviors, support in
maintaining your boundaries, support in being able to call off the threesome,
support, support, support. Why don't you just tell us the supportive things you
want us to say and one of us will go on support duty in shifts, flooding the
newsgroups with posts praising all your actions even when they contradict each
other. Fact is, you don't want discussion. Discussion is the exchange of
opinions, a dialogue back and forth, a give and take. If someone says things
about me that I think are based on insufficient data, I don't killfile them; I
engage them in discussion where I explain why my actions are not as they
appear. But, you don't want discussion; you want people to come up with the
kinds of verbiage you need to make yourself feel good about your latest Wolf
dramas.
Orlando
Orlando Enrique Fiol
>Sarah, no one's haranguing you. You posted here about your situation, and
>people are giving you their opinions, that's all. Isn't the reason you
>posted because you wanted others' views on this? You're free to accept or
>reject those opinions.
No no, Delilah dear, you don't get it. If we don't encourage Sarah to do
whatever she's already decided to do, we're haranguing her.
Orlando
Remus Shepherd
Usenet is the last stronghold of the Wild West Internet; there are
outlaws and renegades and just plain ugly people out here, and there ain't
a damn thing anyone can do about them. Sorry. It's best if you grow a
thick skin. Then you can ignore the idiots while still taking part in
the freedom.
... ...
Remus Shepherd <re...@panix.com>
Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/remus_shepherd/
Dave
<98cc5281-9ceb-4230...@31g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Sarah
C <secret....@gmail.com> was claimed to have wrote:
>I don't suppose it's possible to set up a killfile while using Google
>Groups rather than an actual newsreader, is there?
Nope. Plenty of free usenet clients and a number of free or very cheap
usenet servers though, advice for finding such available upon request if
your ISP isn't capable of providing a server.
>This is really quite ridiculous. Orlando is, once again, projecting
>feelings, motivations and behaviours onto me which aren't actually
>anything to do with me.
And you're letting him get to you.
>I'd like to ask anyone who, on reading his multiple replies to my
>threads feels I'm actually doing, saying and feeling the way he's
>saying I am to please re-read my posts before accepting his version of
>reality.
Orlando is just being Orlando. You barely even need to read his posts
to know what he'll say.
He's very good at weaving his own motivations, insecurities and issues
on to your situation as though the situations were identical without
understanding the fairly substantial differences.
>I came her for discussion and information, not to be harangued.
Skipping over Orlando's posts entirely might be a good place to start.
suzeeq
> I don't suppose it's possible to set up a killfile while using Google
> Groups rather than an actual newsreader, is there?
>
> This is really quite ridiculous. Orlando is, once again, projecting
> feelings, motivations and behaviours onto me which aren't actually
> anything to do with me.
>
> I'd like to ask anyone who, on reading his multiple replies to my
> threads feels I'm actually doing, saying and feeling the way he's
> saying I am to please re-read my posts before accepting his version of
> reality.
He does have his own way of looking at situtations which may or (more
likely) may not be correct due to his own biases.
No google doesn't have a way to killfile anyone, but you can ignore all
his posts and just read the ones from other people, ones that do not
address his comments so you don't have to read them.
{{{hugs}}}
sue
sleepy
Maybe someone can advise me, isn't this a moderated group? If someone
feels he/she is being harangued, why can't the moderator step in, or is
a moderator the one doing the haranguing?
Sleepy.
Orlando Enrique Fiol
>He does have his own way of looking at situtations which may or (more
>likely) may not be correct due to his own biases.
What makes yours more correct than mine? Your gender?
>No google doesn't have a way to killfile anyone, but you can ignore all
>his posts and just read the ones from other people, ones that do not
>address his comments so you don't have to read them.
>hugs}}}
Fake hugs, of course. You've never even met Sarah and don't know if you would
actually hug her or if she'd want your hug. Look, I and my posts are not some
sort of intellectual parasite from which thinking people must be protected.
Nothing's going to happen to delicate Sarah if she gets exposed to some of my
posts or other people's reactions to them.
Orlando
suzeeq
The group is moderated to keep out spam and obvious trolling. Though if
a flame war broke out, that would require moderation.
sue
Serene Vannoy
> I don't suppose it's possible to set up a killfile while using Google
> Groups rather than an actual newsreader, is there?
Nope, but I can help you find and set up a free newsreader. :-)
>
> This is really quite ridiculous. Orlando is, once again, projecting
> feelings, motivations and behaviours onto me which aren't actually
> anything to do with me.
Wait. Didn't you just say you weren't letting him upset you any more? I
recommend going back to that plan.
Serene
--
"Basic principles of the Universe, oo. Do tell. Quantum mechanics?"
"You cannot know simultaneously where you are in a relationship *and*
how fast it is going." - Piglet and Rob Wynne, on alt.polyamory
Orlando Enrique Fiol
>Wait. Didn't you just say you weren't letting him upset you any more? I
>recommend going back to that plan.
You women give me far more power than I ever want or need. If Sarah is upset by
my perfectly polite opinions, she needs a thicker skin. Delilah and a middle-
aged admittedly monogamous man both agreed with my opinions. So, if I upset
Sarah, then they must have also.
Orlando
Tom Allen
> Serene Vannoy<ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:
>> Wait. Didn't you just say you weren't letting him upset you any more? I
>> recommend going back to that plan.
>
> You women give me far more power than I ever want or need.
One of the few things that you've written with which I agree.
> If Sarah is upset by
> my perfectly polite opinions, she needs a thicker skin.
An important quality, indeed, on Usenet.
--
Tom Allen
The Edge of Vanilla
http://vanillaedge.wordpress.com
Sarah C
> Nope, but I can help you find and set up a free newsreader. :-)
I'll have a bit of a poke for one myself, and if I get into trouble,
may I email you?
> Wait. Didn't you just say you weren't letting him upset you any more? I
> recommend going back to that plan.
Oops! Good point!
Pretty sure I was over it by the time I made my last post.
Cheers, Sarah_C
Orlando Enrique Fiol
>I'll have a bit of a poke for one myself, and if I get into trouble,
>may I email you?
I'd rather you email me, since I'm confident that we could work things out.
Orlando
Sarah C
> Sarah C <secret.sara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I'll have a bit of a poke for one myself, and if I get into trouble,
> >may I email you?
>
> I'd rather you email me, since I'm confident that we could work things out.
I'm sure you would.
No thank you.
Cheers,
Sarah_C
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Suit yourself. I'm only trying to be a friend.
Orlando
Tom Allen
Elizabeth
>
> - Show quoted text -
Many contributers to this usenet group have Preapproval status, which
means their posts are not moderated by an actual person, but by a
robomod. Thus they are not seen by a person prior to posting.
No, the haranguer isn't a moderator.
If haranguing continues to the level of harrassment, then a living
moderator can step in and approve or reject posts from former
preapproval list ssg members.
Elizabeth (one of the moderators of ssg)
Serene Vannoy
> On May 11, 7:16 am, Serene Vannoy <ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:
>
>> Nope, but I can help you find and set up a free newsreader. :-)
>
> I'll have a bit of a poke for one myself, and if I get into trouble,
> may I email you?
You bet.
>
>> Wait. Didn't you just say you weren't letting him upset you any more? I
>> recommend going back to that plan.
>
> Oops! Good point!
>
> Pretty sure I was over it by the time I made my last post.
Cool. It would suit me best if no one ever replied to certain people,
but I can only control my own behavior on that, so I never reply to
them. They're not worth the space in my brain.
sleepy
post. Isn't this getting a little extreme?
sleepy
why do you continue to respond to O? It seems you let him hijack the
thread with his own POV. I'd like to see the thread developing without
permanent interruptions from that corner.
I'm intrigued that you are playing with the idea of fulfilling what
must be a very common male fantasy. I can understand that you are very
apprehensive about turning a fantasy into reality. I can't claim to any
positive feedback - the only events that got near to these in my own
experience were unplanned and marred by jealousy.
Sleepy.
Sarah C
> Sarah,
> why do you continue to respond to O? It seems you let him hijack the
> thread with his own POV. I'd like to see the thread developing without
> permanent interruptions from that corner.
Because he really, really gets on my goat *grin* I plan to ignore him,
and then he pushes my buttons and I react. Poorly. However, I will no
longer see his posts, so he won't be able to enrage me, so hopefully
he'l get bored of baiting a bear who doesn't bite and toddle off.
> I'm intrigued that you are playing with the idea of fulfilling what
> must be a very common male fantasy. I can understand that you are very
> apprehensive about turning a fantasy into reality. I can't claim to any
> positive feedback - the only events that got near to these in my own
> experience were unplanned and marred by jealousy.
Sleepy, unless anything unforeseen goes wrong, two two of us, with
assistance of a third party will absolutely fulfilling that, as you
say, very common male fantasy. Whether it's as delightful in reality
as it is in the minds of those who fantasize about it is anyone's
guess.
Thanks for saying you understand my nerves. In previous situations I
have been distraught, but now I feel only nerves. And I get nervous
about going into any completely unknown and unfamiliar activity. So
I'm doing my best to find any particular things that are likely to
make me go "OUCH!" before the situation arises, and trying to plan for
them.
I'd be most interested in hearing your experience, if you'd care to
share it.
Cheers,
Sarah_C
Orlando Enrique Fiol
>No, the haranguer isn't a moderator.
>If haranguing continues to the level of harrassment, then a living
>moderator can step in and approve or reject posts from former
>preapproval list ssg members.
Hopefully, our moderators find my posts cogent, thoughtful and well reasoned
rather than annoyingly haranguing.
Orlando
sleepy
real e-mail address?
Tom Allen
Yes, unlike the rest of us.
More likely, though, is that you simply aren't violating the terms. I
fail to understand why people don't ignore you outright, unless it's for
the entertainment value.
Sarah C
> I started to write it, but I'd prefer to discuss in a PM. Is that your
> real e-mail address?
It is my real email address.
Generally I like to keep all my SSG discussions on the board, but I
can see this is quite personal to you. Feel free to write to me if you
wish, or to simply say that it's too personal for you to feel
comfortable discussing with a stranger.
Cheers,
Sarah_C
suzeeq
There would be that....
sue
Orlando Enrique Fiol
>> More likely, though, is that you simply aren't violating the terms. I
>> fail to understand why people don't ignore you outright, unless it's for
>> the entertainment value.
>There would be that....
I am a thoughtful human being and not meant to be mocked. Anyone who is merely
entertained by my posts is hereby discouraged from ever dialoging with me. I
don't need favors.
Orlando
Gordon
sleepy
concerns people who are still very much part of my life, and who have no
interest in my telling the story in a public forum. I'll just say that
things did not work the way that male fantasies are supposed to.
Gordon
Andres64
> I don't suppose it's possible to set up a killfile while using Google
> Groups rather than an actual newsreader, is there?
Yes there is. If you use Firefox and download an add-on called
"Greasemonkey" it allows you to killfile.
Denny Wheeler
<of...@verizon.net> wrote:
<snippage to cogency>
>I am a thoughtful human being and not meant to be mocked.
Orlando, that is as oxymoronic a sentence as I've ever read. Note
that I said 'sentence' and not 'phrase'.
(IOW, ALL humans are highly mockable, and almost always the better for
it.)
suzeeq
But that's not able to be done while using Google groups....
sue
suzeeq
> (IOW, ALL humans are highly mockable, and almost always the better for
> it.)
Denny! Glad to see you're back!
sue
Dave
Actually it is... Greasemonkey runs within the browser and modifies
websites on the fly.
suzeeq
Interesting....
sue
suzeeq
> Sarah C <secret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't suppose it's possible to set up a killfile while using Google
>> Groups rather than an actual newsreader, is there?
>
>
> The specific Greasemonkey script you will need to install is at:
>
> http://www.penney.org/google-groups-killfile-3-5-3-released.html
>
> I just tested this, and it appears to work. Be careful with what
> names you block, as their messages *completely* disappear, so there's
> no way to unblock short of going to about:config and hand-editing or
> deleting the blob of information that the killfile keeps.
>
> Regards,
How do you go to about:config? In the browser or on your own computer?
Dave
<su...@imbris.com> was claimed to have wrote:
Type "about:config" into Firefox's URL bar.
Edit with caution :)