Israeli vandalism
Jeanette S.
Israeli ambassador to Sweden for vandalizing an art exhibit in Stockhom
which allegedly glorifies Palestinian suicide bombers. Sharon praised
Ambassador Mazel for his actions because anti-semitism is so serious.
(Mazel was caught on a security camera throwing a spotlight at the
exhibit.)
Wonder who he thinks this will help! And these guys are emmisaries of
their country! The "art" looked strange to me, but gives no one, even
the Israeli PM, the right to deface/have it defaced. Myself, I wouldn't
even have known about it if the incident hadn't taken place and been
publicized.
Modern art in Stockholm is notorious and considered by some to be way
over the line. Is this "good" publicity for Israel in these times?
Gives one pause for thought, doesn't it? This act has focused a good
part of the world's attention on the incident and many many more people
will know about the art and what it supposely alleged because of it.
My opinion is that the art stank, but the action taken against it was
very wrong! Jeanette
Joan F (MI)
opinion they don't like.
In news:15258-40...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net,
Jeanette S. <jenah...@hotmail.com> stated
Gordon
mediaeval feminists as a protest against her nakedness. :-)
I haven't seen the 'art' in question, so I am unable to judge whether it
glorifies suicide bombers, but all nations and religions have resulted
in art which glorified their conquests, often at the expense of others.
I do not approve of such art.
--
Gordon
Mike
Let's say I commission a painting that shows Mohammed having sex with
a pig with the face of that female suicide bomber, call it "Reward
in Hell" - do you think that museum will exhibit it?
Star Gazer phoebe
group of them plus moderate Palestenians sought peace
Powell approved their efforts but their aims were defeated by
elements in Bushes administration that support the
right wing of Israelis. The right wing leadership is arrogant
& fanatical & would try to impose their taste upon society
Signpoet
One may approve or not approve of any work of art (I can't listen to John
Cage's music), but vandalism of any work of art is barbarism.
As a Jew I'm deeply ashamed of the actions of an Israeli official and more
ashamed of the government's approval of it.
Connie
Jeanette S.
judge whether it glorifies suicide bombers, but all nations and
religions have resulted in art which glorified their conquests, often at
the expense of others.
I do not approve of such art."
I saw a picture of it with the news article - a big pool of blood red
water with a little sail boat with a picture of a female palestinian
suicide bomber on it, floating on the "blood". Supposedly an Israeli
was the artist. Not at all in good taste and really really far out!
Jeanette
Jeanette S.
having sex with a pig with the face of that female suicide bomber, call
it "Reward in Hell" - do you think that museum will exhibit it? "
LOL! As long as the museum is in Sweden! Jeanette
Gordon
>"Joan F \(MI\)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote in message news:<o8AOb.31
>660$P%1.252...@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
>> Everyone loves freedom of expression only as long as no one expresses an
>> opinion they don't like.
>>
>> In news:15258-40...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net,
>> Jeanette S. <jenah...@hotmail.com> stated
>> | It has been reported on MSNBC that Sharon, PM of Israel, praises the
>> | Israeli ambassador to Sweden for vandalizing an art exhibit in
>> | Stockhom which allegedly glorifies Palestinian suicide bombers.
>> | Sharon praised Ambassador Mazel for his actions because anti-semitism
>> | is so serious. (Mazel was caught on a security camera throwing a
>> | spotlight at the exhibit.)
>>
>> |
>> | My opinion is that the art stank, but the action taken against it was
>> | very wrong! Jeanette
>
>
>Let's say I commission a painting that shows Mohammed having sex with
>a pig with the face of that female suicide bomber, call it "Reward
>in Hell" - do you think that museum will exhibit it?
No. It would be kept in the museum vaults whilst agonising debate took
place as to whether it was 'art', and whether it should be seen by the
public.
Then a rich American would buy it, and the museum would have billions to
spend on some other treasures....
--
Gordon
Patricia
> No. It would be kept in the museum vaults whilst agonising debate took
> place as to whether it was 'art', and whether it should be seen by the
> public.
>
> Then a rich American would buy it, and the museum would have billions to
> spend on some other treasures....
> --
> Gordon
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Hum......Well, art and artists can be controversial ...(G)
The crucifix in a container of urine didn't go so well here.
Serrano, I think. As far as I know, no one destroyed it or bought
it. Just hooted and jeered as it went on tour.
Then there's the Turner Prize...
The Turner is said to be the award that put British art
on the map. The prize, worth £20,000, is given to a British
artist under 50
for an outstanding exhibition or other presentation of work in
the past 12
months. And this year the prize is 20 years old. Sensational art, fizzing
column inches and partying arterati are guaranteed.
The 2003 winner was a transvestite potter...I saw a photo of the
winner in his Shirley Temple outfit and full make up.
It's all pretty silly from where I sit....LOL
--
Patricia
Florida-USA
Gordon
>Hum......Well, art and artists can be controversial ...(G)
>
>The crucifix in a container of urine didn't go so well here.
>Serrano, I think. As far as I know, no one destroyed it or bought
>it. Just hooted and jeered as it went on tour.
>
>Then there's the Turner Prize...
>
>The Turner is said to be the award that put British art
>on the map. The prize, worth £20,000, is given to a British
>artist under 50
>for an outstanding exhibition or other presentation of work in
>the past 12
>months. And this year the prize is 20 years old. Sensational art, fizzing
>column inches and partying arterati are guaranteed.
>
>The 2003 winner was a transvestite potter...I saw a photo of the
>winner in his Shirley Temple outfit and full make up.
>
>It's all pretty silly from where I sit....LOL
>
I don't know about art, but I know what I like!
I don't rate the Turner prize.
I expect the King's new set of clothes to win one day.
--
Gordon
Patricia
> I take art classes from time to time where we visit each week a
> selection of galleries in NYC showing the latest avant garde
> art plus exhibitions of work by artists of note representing every
> type of art.
Hi, Rita -
I like variety as well and can appreciate most of what I see.
MOMA is frequent and pleasant stop when we are in New York. Art
appreciation can be one of life's real pleasures...
Some of what I see I find shocking,some interesting, creative and
unusual...but I do enjoy seeing it. I love the old masters,
religious paintings and some examples of almost anything you can
imagine. Having said that.. some of what I see also makes me
wonder. The last exhibit we saw in the city was the Vermeer. It
was amazing.
> In the last class we visited a gallery for an exhibition of work by
> Andy Warhol which he had created with his own piss. Actually,
> the works were very attractive and had one not been told what
> the media was, one would never have known. Why he chose to
> do this I don't know but I expect shock value was the reason.
I've read that he was as strange as the personal he created for
himself. In a biography, they wrote that he had taken the
original photo of Marilyn Monroe but that all the silk screens
that resulted from the photo..were done by his apprentices as was
much of his other work. He developed the concept and others
carried it out. Not so unusual, I understand that the "old
masters" had understudies that did much of the painting under
directions from the master.
> I enjoy contemporary art and am willing to suspend prior judgment
> and look at all works to see if I like them or not.
As do I.. but it has to hit some responsive chord. Much of it
doesn't. I forget who created the vignette ..but a white
porcelain toilet sitting in a corner illuminated by a spot light
is "much" for me.I find that sort of thing contrived and silly.
But that's just me.....there must be others that appreciate that
sort of thing or it wouldn't be on display.
>Whenever I travel
> I look for contemporary art, and had a marvelous time in 1999 in
> Venice at the Biennial Exhibition held there for contemporary art
> by artists worldwide.
The Louvre is spectacular in it's size and content, the pyramid
.. interesting. We've been to other galleries in Rome, Athens,
etc. and enjoyed each for what it offered.
>There was a portrait of Monica Lewinsky as
> the Mona Lisa and the picture frame was made of cigars.
I saw a reproduction in a magazine..interesting, creative but not
something I would want around for very long ... enough to see it
and move on.
>There
> also was a video of a Chinese artist walking nude along the top
> of the Great Wall of China. Who would not have fun at such an
> exhibition? One needs to try to wipe out all prior expectations of
> what art "should be" and look and enjoy.
I do hope he didn't walk the wall(or worse yet sit down on it) in
August...that's when we were there and it was impossibly hot.(g)
My feeling for art is similar to my feeling for music. If either
are discordant, or too aggressive, with no theme.. or generally
aimless thumping .. I just don't get anything from it.
Patricia
Andy in Fink
"Mike" <mi...@medved.net> wrote in message
news:3b59b02.04011...@posting.google.com...
> Let's say I commission a painting that shows Mohammed having sex with
> a pig with the face of that female suicide bomber, call it "Reward
> in Hell" - do you think that museum will exhibit it?
Hmmm...........
....... what kind of a pig is it ??????
Yosemite Andy
Star Gazer phoebe
We all know that yet I just do not understand the modern
concepts. I see movement, original technics & also a good
deal of shock values. I am greatly moved by the South
American artists who memoralized their own people. I love
Vermeer & the Dutch painters. I haven*t travelled much so
I missed the chance of visiting the great museums. For myself
I like to paint realistically I do what I understand & for
what I have gut feelings. I guess I*m not that
imaginative==but i appreciate those who are immaginative & have
the talent & technic to express it.
Jeanette S.
feeling for music. If either are discordant, or too aggressive, with no
theme.. or generally aimless thumping .. I just don't get anything from
it."
My feeling exactly. Jeanette
Jeanette S.
judgment and look at all works to see if I like them or not. Whenever I
travel I look for contemporary art, and had a marvelous time in 1999 in
Venice at the Biennial Exhibition held there for contemporary art by
Lisa and the picture frame was made of cigars. There also was a video of
a Chinese artist walking nude along the top of the Great Wall of China.
Who would not have fun at such an exhibition? One needs to try to wipe
out all prior expectations of what art "should be" and look and enjoy."
I call that type of art extremely modern, if not over the top. I have
looked but didn't enjoy so give up on it. The Andy Warhola painting I
remember, I believe, was where he painted a can of soup on a blank
canvas! Absolutely ridiculous, in my view, but then, not all of us
like the same things. Jeanette
Gordon
>Rita wrote: "I enjoy contemporary art and am willing to suspend prior
>judgment and look at all works to see if I like them or not. Whenever I
>travel I look for contemporary art, and had a marvelous time in 1999 in
>Venice at the Biennial Exhibition held there for contemporary art by
>artists worldwide. There was a portrait of Monica Lewinsky as the Mona
>Lisa and the picture frame was made of cigars.
Now I call that art with a touch of humour...
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>I call that type of art extremely modern, if not over the top. I have
>looked but didn't enjoy so give up on it. The Andy Warhola painting I
>remember, I believe, was where he painted a can of soup on a blank
>canvas! Absolutely ridiculous, in my view, but then, not all of us
>like the same things. Jeanette
>
I don't know about Warhol, that was my first reaction to his can of
soup, but his stuff was fresh at that time, and still has enough style
to be recognisable as his.
I am always fascinated by Salvador Dali's creations. They may look
like the product of a deranged mind, but they are full of interest, and
some are erotic in a strange, distorted way.
--
Gordon
Jeanette S.
and marveled at how women doing mundane tasks such as making bedding
have managed to create real art in their products."
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Amish quilts are beautful. Especially those depicting real life as seen
through the quilt-makers eyes. I often wish I was as talented as some
of them. I make quilts, but confine them to infant bed size. I usually
try to incorporate a scene or view of some sort and they are well
received by the Mamas. I must get busy on another for my new great
grand baby and my niece is expecting another baby in the spring.
Keeping the quilts small suits me as I don't have the patience for doing
repetitive tasks on a grand scale now days. Jeanette
Mabel Hudson
Mabel adds:
It probably doesn't matter. And he has 69 more virgins just
like it !!!!!
Mabel :>)))