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Stephen Morgan

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Aug 13, 2001, 8:37:51 PM8/13/01
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In alt.feminism, großer wrote:
> In article <zFGd7.21924$33.42...@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net>, "Michael says...
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> >>>{Parg} Hon, any time a film is made of the sexual exploitation and murder of a
> >>> human being for the purient interests of the filmer or others who enjoy the
> >>> film for its 'merits' is a "snuff film".
> >
> >No it isn't. "Snuff film" refers to something for public exhibition.
> >You fem-wits are desparate to change the definition, because
> >you've been maintaining for decades that they exist -- but they don't.
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> British link to 'snuff' videos
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> Jason Burke in London, Amelia Gentleman in Moscow, Philip Willan in Rome
> Observer
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> Sunday October 1, 2000
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> Britain is a key link in the biggest ever international investigation into the
> production and supply of paedophile 'snuff' movies - in which children are
> murdered on film - an Observer investigation can reveal.
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> The key suspect in the inquiry, a Russian who was arrested last week in Moscow
> for distribution of thousands of sadistic child porn videos and pictures, was
> traced following the seizure of his products from British paedophiles.
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> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4070446,00.htm

It doesn't say snuff films exist, it says the Russians is involved with
"sadistic child porn videos and pictures".

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Edward A. Falk

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Aug 14, 2001, 3:26:32 PM8/14/01
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In article <9l7ni...@drn.newsguy.com>,

großer <gro_m...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>In article <zFGd7.21924$33.42...@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net>, "Michael says...
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>http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4070446,00.htm

[Russian child porn ring that apparently really has snuff films]

Holy shit! This is what I get for not reading a thread completely
before posting.

Life imitates urban legend. I don't like this one bit.

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John LaVoy

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Aug 14, 2001, 4:58:28 PM8/14/01
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Stephen Morgan wrote:

 

It doesn't say snuff films exist, it says the Russians is involved with
"sadistic child porn videos and pictures".

While I agree that Parg is wrong in her classification of snuff films, I also think your response misses the point. If indeed the materials contain what is described,  then they would be classified as snuff films.   Whether they do or not is yet to be shown.  In addition, whether they feature male or female victims,  adult or children, is irrelevant.

 

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Michael Snyder

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Aug 14, 2001, 5:42:23 PM8/14/01
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John LaVoy wrote in message <3B7990F4...@pobox.upenn.edu>...

So perhaps we should change our refrain to --
There WEREN'T any snuff films -- until feminism planted the idea...

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