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Dirk Mittler

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Feb 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/3/00
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People say the wierdest things. My friend Francis at Omega told us today
that if the Communist Party were elected in a European country, the
President could stop them from forming a government. One day I'll explain it
to him, but first I want to see where everybody stands at this location. The
first thing we're taught in the German military is that if the Communist
Party is elected, you have to protect their right to take over. But if a
Fascist party is elected, you have to kill them. Period. Did you have the
same nuts idea he did, that Communism is illegal anywhere in Europe and
Fascism not?

Dirk


Aldis Ozols

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Dirk Mittler wrote:
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> The first thing we're taught in the German
> military is that if the Communist
> Party is elected, you have to protect
> their right to take over. But if a
> Fascist party is elected, you have to kill
> them. Period.

It sounds like you already have a Fascist government.

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"Reality is whatever doesn't go away when you stop believing in it."
-- Philip K Dick

Dirk Mittler

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Aldis Ozols wrote in message <389A39CA...@zeta.org.au>...

>Dirk Mittler wrote:
>>
>> The first thing we're taught in the German
>> military is that if the Communist
>> Party is elected, you have to protect
>> their right to take over. But if a
>> Fascist party is elected, you have to kill
>> them. Period.
>
>It sounds like you already have a Fascist government.


It's a state of mind there, in Europe. Someone has responded by e-mail that
I'm closer to being right than the Francis was that I paraphrased. According
to that somebody, right now even Communists are more acceptable than anyone
right-of-center. And this statement was assisted by the fact that the person
was present in Europe to observe it.

Since I failed to put a descriptive subject line on the first item in this
thread, anybody might want to go back and view exactly what I did write
under Naive Statements in Montreal.

Dirk

Dirk Mittler

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Aldis Ozols wrote in message <389A39CA...@zeta.org.au>...
>Dirk Mittler wrote:
>>
>> The first thing we're taught in the German
>> military is that if the Communist
>> Party is elected, you have to protect
>> their right to take over. But if a
>> Fascist party is elected, you have to kill
>> them. Period.
>
>It sounds like you already have a Fascist government.
>
>--
>How to Lobby Politicians


[...]

And so, do you believe there's any way the CIA might not know that this is
happening? In 1987?

Dirk


Dirk Mittler

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Aldis Ozols wrote in message <389A39CA...@zeta.org.au>...
>Dirk Mittler wrote:
>>
>> The first thing we're taught in the German
>> military is that if the Communist
>> Party is elected, you have to protect
>> their right to take over. But if a
>> Fascist party is elected, you have to kill
>> them. Period.
>
>It sounds like you already have a Fascist government.


[...]

Is it possible that you're suggesting that Communism is a better fight
against Fascism because it is justly fascist? I would think that if you were
anti-fascist enough to be Communist, then you wouldn't want to be fascist as
well. Do two wrongs make a right? And meanwhile, please not that fascism has
no objective meaning. A fascist can be anyone whom we don't like; he or she
doesn't even have to have power. So a wallstreet executive can be a fascist,
as well as a Ronald Reagan that complains against the "Hitlerite
stormtroopers..." Explain to me where you're going with this. Red fascism is
fascism and if facism is wrong, Communism is doubly so. Where fascism isn't
a thing.

Francis was known to say that "The Capitalists are more powerful than the
politicians." And I'm ridiculed because I'm a capitalist, as if a capitalist
has to own the means of production to be that. I knocked down a Barbara Weis
because she wanted the world to belong to me (not). If the world was my
private property, it would cease to be private property. The wrold was
Stalin's private property, and so it wasn't that any more. A capitalist is
any person / politician who belives in the system of free enterprise, not to
stuff their own pockets but for its merits as a system. And the big
shareholders who own the billion dollar blocks, they're seldom
right-of-center. To them the system is accidental and they only see
themselves. I foment disorder to prevent a monopoly of money or power
because efficiency drops rapidly when competition wanes. A gridlocked world
is ideal to me. A world that no liberal shareholder can "just end."

But if your Communism is fascist as well, then that makes it right?

Dirk


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