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An independent old cuss

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Sep 23, 2011, 10:29:28 AM9/23/11
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Last night was the first time we've watched the current round of GOP
debates. It was unanimous in our household. Rick Perry looked
amateurish, unprepared and generally was a disaster looking for a
place to happen. But, as he's going to be the next president, you
might as well get used to it. As he refers to Romney as Obama lite,
well, Perry appears to be Bush lite.
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An independent old cuss

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Sep 23, 2011, 10:42:51 AM9/23/11
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"An independent old cuss" <cu...@exitin.org> wrote in message
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> Last night was the first time we've watched the current round of GOP
> debates. It was unanimous in our household. Rick Perry looked
> amateurish, unprepared and generally was a disaster looking for a
> place to happen. But, as he's going to be the next president, you
> might as well get used to it. As he refers to Romney as Obama lite,
> well, Perry appears to be Bush lite.
> --

Our son, who is quite astute on things political as he's worked on a
couple of national campaigns, said Perry did exactly what his handlers
wanted him to do. First, he's playiung the "rope a dope" card. Second,
last night, he won the hispanic vote. Third, he made a lot of
Libertarians comfortable with him and fourth he did the same with a
lot of TeaParty types. He claims that when the faction weighted polls
come out, watch what groups Perry leads in. They should be the very
ones mentioned above. I told him he was full of poop but we'll just
have to see.

Alias

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:03:43 AM9/23/11
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On 09/23/2011 04:29 PM, An independent old cuss wrote:
> But, as he's going to be the next president,

LOL! Good joke. Got any more?

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Gary

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:12:53 AM9/23/11
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:29:28 -0500, "An independent old cuss"
<cu...@exitin.org> wrote:

>Last night was the first time we've watched the current round of GOP
>debates.

Actually the CNN format last week -- with only one questioner (Wolf
Blitzer) was far better. It left the floor open for the candidates
to ask each other questions. They know what's going on more than
the media types do.

But -- no format is good when you have nine candidates and only two
hours. That is too many for a serious discussion.

>It was unanimous in our household. Rick Perry looked
>amateurish, unprepared and generally was a disaster looking for a
>place to happen. But, as he's going to be the next president, you
>might as well get used to it. As he refers to Romney as Obama lite,
>well, Perry appears to be Bush lite.

No matter how lite either is -- they are both heavier than
O-"woe is me"- Bama.

Jerry Okamura

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:16:21 AM9/23/11
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What did you learn about ANY of the top five or ten concerns you have? Did
any of them offer any real solutions to ANY of these concerns? Do you now
know what their values and principals are? Do you know for certain, how
high a value they place on preserving our freedoms and liberties? Which
ones, do you know for certain, would NEVER violate the Constitution? Which
ones, if any, have told you whether they think it is better for the
government to take care of us, and whether is it better for the government
to help us take care of ourselves? Did any of them actually have a solution
to the funding problem with the big three entitlement programs? How about
reducing the National Debt, or deficit spending, did ANY of them have a
solution to these two problems. Jus a few of the questions, I would hope
that all of us want answers to..... How about wars, when should we go to
war? When should we go to war, when to fight that war, it increases the
National Debt? When is it okay for the government to spend money on
initiatives, with money they do not have?

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Jerry Okamura

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:17:13 AM9/23/11
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"Alias" wrote in message news:4e7c9fde$1...@news.x-privat.org...

On 09/23/2011 04:29 PM, An independent old cuss wrote:
> But, as he's going to be the next president,

LOL! Good joke. Got any more?

Would you still think it is a good joke, "if" he DOES become our next
President?

Jerry Okamura

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:18:37 AM9/23/11
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"Gary" wrote in message news:1d8p77lcavggt3jon...@4ax.com...

On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:29:28 -0500, "An independent old cuss"
<cu...@exitin.org> wrote:

>Last night was the first time we've watched the current round of GOP
>debates.

Actually the CNN format last week -- with only one questioner (Wolf
Blitzer) was far better. It left the floor open for the candidates
to ask each other questions. They know what's going on more than
the media types do.

But -- no format is good when you have nine candidates and only two
hours. That is too many for a serious discussion.


Or, it can be just fine, "if" they just concentrated on one or two or three
main issues, and explored them more fully?

maxw...@my-deja.com

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:27:20 AM9/23/11
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On Sep 23, 11:17 am, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
> "Alias"  wrote in messagenews:4e7c9fde$1...@news.x-privat.org...
The US would be a joke to the world and on the fast track
to leaving it's leadership role it has held in the past.
Most of the people in this forum should have lived long enough to
know a few things about human behaviour and character.
I will not vote for any of these people because watched and
listened to them enough to know better.
Anyone that does vote for any of these people with the
exception of maybe Huntsman pretty much makes the statement
about how foolish and ignorant they are.

Alias

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:33:23 AM9/23/11
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The more jokers like Perry that the Republican Party has, the better
Obama's chances of reelection are. So, the joke's on the Republicans.

Huntsman was born with a golden spoon in his mouth. He doesn't stand a
chance.

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maxw...@my-deja.com

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:46:39 AM9/23/11
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On Sep 23, 11:33 am, Alias <a...@maskedandanonymous.com.invalida>
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I am not going to vote for any of these.
I don't know much about Huntsman other than he hasn't said anything
to indicate his is a crank or fool. Keeping quiet is the best thing he
could possibly do to win. Let the others talk and hang themselves.

Alias

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:57:29 AM9/23/11
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Look him up on Wikipedia. It's an eye opener.

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Jerry Okamura

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Sep 23, 2011, 1:20:29 PM9/23/11
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Why Huntsman?

Jerry Okamura

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Sep 23, 2011, 1:21:25 PM9/23/11
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"Alias" wrote in message news:4e7ca6d1$1...@news.x-privat.org...

Roosevelt and John Kennedy were both born with a golden spoon in their
mouths.....

Rumpelstiltskin

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Sep 23, 2011, 1:30:21 PM9/23/11
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:16:36 -0400, Emily <Em...@nospam.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:46:39 -0700 (PDT), maxw...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>> I am not going to vote for any of these.
>>I don't know much about Huntsman other than he hasn't said anything
>>to indicate his is a crank or fool. Keeping quiet is the best thing he
>>could possibly do to win. Let the others talk and hang themselves.
>
>He seemed saner than most of that crowd until I saw a clip from the
>last debate in which he said he'd bring his Harley to the White House.
>I could just imagine the Secret Service saying to themselves, "Yeah,
>and we'll let you sit on it in the basement but forget about riding
>it."
>
>We watched some of last night's debate, just Gary Johnson, Ron Paul,
>Newt and Huntsman. It was with great pleasure that I fast forwarded
>through the rest.



It was with great pleasure that I missed the entire thing.
I can't imagine anything a Republican would be likely to
say anymore that would remove my disgust for that entire
party.





SNORDO

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Sep 24, 2011, 2:54:51 AM9/24/11
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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no that would be a bad joke


mg

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Sep 24, 2011, 9:08:42 PM9/24/11
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:29:28 -0500, "An independent old cuss"
<cu...@exitin.org> wrote:

>Last night was the first time we've watched the current round of GOP
>debates. It was unanimous in our household. Rick Perry looked
>amateurish, unprepared and generally was a disaster looking for a
>place to happen. But, as he's going to be the next president, you
>might as well get used to it. As he refers to Romney as Obama lite,
>well, Perry appears to be Bush lite.

I've never been a huge fan of debates, but these Republican debates
are an exception with everyone of them tripping all over themselves
competing to see which one can make the biggest fool of himself.

Rita

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Sep 24, 2011, 9:43:24 PM9/24/11
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Yeah, I don't know how much longer Bachmann will be around to
entertain us though. The Mittt/Rick show is pretty good as well. I
have noted a real gleam in Romney's eyes and an eagerness to
hear what Perry will say next so he can pounce on it. That's the
most zest I have ever noted in Romney. Perry has invigorated
him for sure.


mg

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Sep 25, 2011, 5:26:19 AM9/25/11
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I've always wondered how much coaching and training goes on behind the
scenes for these debates. Romney obviously has a new coach that
working on helping him shake his flaky image and present the
impression that he's the only adult on the stage and it appears to be
working.

The question is how will the Republicans vote when they get in that
booth all alone? If the choice is between Romney who says he supports
Social Security and Perry, for instance, who obviously wants to kill
it, I would bet they will vote for Romney.


Thumper

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Sep 25, 2011, 11:02:28 AM9/25/11
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First they have focus groups and then hours and hours of coaching an
practice. The results of the focus groups tell Romney that the Social
Security statements by Perry have damaged him almost irreparably.
Thumper

mg

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Sep 25, 2011, 1:18:56 PM9/25/11
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:02:28 -0400, Thumper <jayl...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Given Romney's metamorphosis I would guess that he's the odd's on
favorite for winning the Republican nomination. Intrade shows him as
the most likely winner.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/23/romney-surges-perry-plummets-on-intrade/

However, there are some new indications that Chris Christie might run
and if he did, and won, he would be a very strong candidate against
Obama unless he stumbles somewhere along the line like Perry did.
http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/09/25/chris-christie-reconsidering-2012-run/

Unless something happens to reverse the current trends, there's a very
good chance that the Republicans will wind up controlling both houses
of congress and the presidency. At that point, I'll probably just
figure that we have lost the battle and I'll probably just ignore the
political news and the newsgroups altogether and maybe focus more on
other things.


El Castor

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Sep 25, 2011, 2:24:41 PM9/25/11
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:43:24 -0700, Rita <rtk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:08:42 -0600, mg <mgke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:29:28 -0500, "An independent old cuss"
>><cu...@exitin.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Last night was the first time we've watched the current round of GOP
>>>debates. It was unanimous in our household. Rick Perry looked
>>>amateurish, unprepared and generally was a disaster looking for a
>>>place to happen. But, as he's going to be the next president, you
>>>might as well get used to it. As he refers to Romney as Obama lite,
>>>well, Perry appears to be Bush lite.
>>
>>I've never been a huge fan of debates, but these Republican debates
>>are an exception with everyone of them tripping all over themselves
>>competing to see which one can make the biggest fool of himself.
>
>Yeah, I don't know how much longer Bachmann will be around to
>entertain us though. The Mittt/Rick show is pretty good as well.

Not nearly as entertaining as watching the Chosen One writhe and
squirm as he is roasted by the heat of truth and public opinion. You
voted for Hope and Change, and got neither. Soon it will be our turn.

Alias

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Sep 25, 2011, 2:31:02 PM9/25/11
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On 09/25/2011 08:24 PM, El Castor wrote:
> Soon it will be our turn.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

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Thumper

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Sep 25, 2011, 2:44:19 PM9/25/11
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:31:02 +0200, Alias
<a...@maskedandanonymous.com.invalida> wrote:

>On 09/25/2011 08:24 PM, El Castor wrote:
>> Soon it will be our turn.
>
>Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

If they get a turn they'll really screw everyone but the rich.
Thumper

High Miles

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Sep 25, 2011, 2:58:53 PM9/25/11
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On 9/25/2011 1:31 PM, Alias wrote:
> On 09/25/2011 08:24 PM, El Castor wrote:
>> Soon it will be our turn.
>
> Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
>
Which gang is that guy a part of ?
And what is he planning to do when 'his' turn comes ?


El Castor

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Sep 25, 2011, 3:18:35 PM9/25/11
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:44:19 -0400, Thumper <jayl...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Obama, being a true egalitarian, just screwed everyone. And, I would
remind you that in a world of filth and squalor, the "rich" and their
free enterprise ideals built a country in which the poor drive cars,
and lay around all day getting fat watching TV.

Rita

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Sep 25, 2011, 4:00:45 PM9/25/11
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I would lay off the "fat" insults if I were you. Your party may well
have a very fat man seeking the GOP nomination.

Gary

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Sep 25, 2011, 5:29:21 PM9/25/11
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 12:18:35 -0700, El Castor
<ElPolo...@nowhere.net> wrote:

I've heard it said that we are the only country in history -- where
the poor are fat. One might almost say it's a requirement for the
poor :-)

El Castor

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Sep 26, 2011, 3:59:45 PM9/26/11
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A liberal co-worker used to argue that fat women on welfare were
actually suffering from malnutrition. Poor diet, etc. That's the
problem with starting with an assumption that must be bent to explain
every outcome.

El Castor

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Sep 26, 2011, 4:01:26 PM9/26/11
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Uh, yes. I know what you mean. I guess I'll leave the fat insults to
you. (-8
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